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Just out of curiosity, when do you guys give the donation? Before or after?
Most of them want it before. I've only tried to give the donation after twice. One flat out refused, which I dropped off. The other agreed once I set it in plain view and left it there during the session.
Before. There have been times I've left it in plain view, but to what end. If she changes her mind, tries to bolt, makes a scene, am I going to get physical to keep my donation? Have a prolonged argument over payment after I'm likely already in a compromised situation? (you know, like with your dick out). First priority should always be safety, especially once something has not gone as planned. Cut your loses quickly and consider anything short of a threat to your freedom or your life (or your johnson) to be a good lesson learned.
This of course does not apply to "Give me the money so I can buy condoms, pay for a room, meet you around back. " Might as well just hand them the cash while they are still standing on the street corner in that case. So long as your hobby is considered a crime understand there will be criminals involved and the cash you have on you to be an acceptable loss.
[QUOTE=Ajlee133;3701509]Just out of curiosity, when do you guys give the donation? Before or after?
Most of them want it before. I've only tried to give the donation after twice. One flat out refused, which I dropped off. The other agreed once I set it in plain view and left it there during the session.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BoogalooSam;3701591]So long as your hobby is considered a crime understand there will be criminals involved and the cash you have on you to be an acceptable loss.[/QUOTE]Good point.
Just give it after and if they balk then leave and go home to take care of self service and save cash. It usually changes her mind since she already got ready it makes no sense for them to cancel just because the donation is after. If she does cancel it is actually a good sign. A sign she put no effort into hygiene or getting ready that she would waste such efforts merely to wait until after the session. If there is no trust then the session will not be good anyway.
Any information on the girl that calls herself Carmen?
Dreamt I stopped at the circle k on 24th st & van buren when a BSW saw me looking & asked for a cigarette. Asked if she needed a ride & she hopped in. Went to a parking lot for BBBJCIM for. 40. This was Sunday night b around 10:30 pm.
Went to 27th in the middle of the week around 10 PM. It was completely dead. Didn't see a single girl walking about. Did a couple of passes and decided to go to VB, which I have never been before. Did 2 passes between 16th st and 40th st. Compeltely dead as well.
Decided to head back to 27th one last time. Saw a cute BSW with a nice, tight booty in yoga pants so I pulled into a street. She quoted 80 for hhr with no singing. Wouldn't do 60 for FS. I decided to pass. Drove all the way up to BHR where I saw two young, curvy chicks in short booty shorts and bikini tops coming out of some dry cleaners. They quoted 100 for hhr, 80 for QV. They wouldn't back down as well. I told them no thanks. Kind of regretted it as I watched those juicy tits and fat ass walk away.
Went home empty-handed.
Is 80 and 100 usual for qv and hhr? Usually those are IC rates.
I love the seedier side of stuff sometimes. Was at gentleman's club close to downtown and on the street behind it there is quite a bit of action.
I didn't go as streetwalkers and LE are not apart of my risk / reward but there seemed to be high traffic for them so I gather it may be a well known unspoken about spot.
Anyone else know of or seen this spot? I will also say it is kind of dark so tough to tell quality.
[QUOTE=Lasvegas318;3728207]I love the seedier side of stuff sometimes. Was at gentleman's club close to downtown and on the street behind it there is quite a bit of action.
I didn't go as streetwalkers and LE are not apart of my risk / reward but there seemed to be high traffic for them so I gather it may be a well known unspoken about spot.
Anyone else know of or seen this spot? I will also say it is kind of dark so tough to tell quality.[/QUOTE]I was kind of curious about the stretch of University just south of the airport. Seems to be a lot of gentleman's clubs in that area, so may have to take an evening ride for scouting purposes.
Was at the Carl's Jr. About to leave when I noticed a hot BSW dressed in all black walking South on 24th. I knew what was up so I headed down to the adult shoppe. By the time I pulled in & lit up a cig she was walking up. I smiled & smoked & when I went in she was standing by the booths bunch of dudes sniffing around. She noticed me & waited till I walked near by to cut in front of me & glanced back so I follow her to a booth. She asks to see my dick & quoted 40 for chi. I offered 60 for BBBJCIM when she asked if I had a condom. She said no cim & to tell her when I was going to fun. I said yes & she gave me incredible BBBJ. Said her name was Michelle.
Then I did a mean thing & came in her mouth & on her face instead of telling her. She asked for more money & I was all sorry you were so good & all that & she goes it's ok I give bomb head. Then I said bye & she said take care of yourself & I walked away laughing because she still had her hand out for more money as I turned.
Kind of a dick move on my part, I know, but it was so hot. She said her phone was stolen but 140 for FS at her place within walking distance. Probably going to keep an eye on that area.
[QUOTE=CuriousGuyMke;3728615]I was kind of curious about the stretch of University just south of the airport. Seems to be a lot of gentleman's clubs in that area, so may have to take an evening ride for scouting purposes.[/QUOTE]There is only one "gentlemens club", V Live which doesn't have much going until after 9 PM. The rest of the places, so called modeling places and similar titles, have reputations as rip off joints. Let this be a warning but if you really want to try them out, don't forget to post about your experiences. In the past, some of bouncers supposedly shook down customers. Threats of bodily harm, etc.
Higgs.
[QUOTE=HiggsBoson;3729072]There is only one "gentlemens club", V Live which doesn't have much going until after 9 PM. The rest of the places, so called modeling places and similar titles, have reputations as rip off joints. Let this be a warning but if you really want to try them out, don't forget to post about your experiences. In the past, some of bouncers supposedly shook down customers. Threats of bodily harm, etc.
Higgs.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Higgs. Actually, just got back. Somebody sent me to 40th & Washington for street tacos. And they were right on both accounts. WSW, furry boots around 33rd (I think) and VB. No cover. Took her medicine with no issue. Went by "Rose. " Didn't seem too overly strung out, but once she got out. Car certainly didn't smell as fresh. Haha.
[QUOTE=Ajlee133;3723166]Went to 27th in the middle of the week around 10 PM. It was completely dead. Didn't see a single girl walking about. Did a couple of passes and decided to go to VB, which I have never been before. Did 2 passes between 16th st and 40th st. Compeltely dead as well.
Decided to head back to 27th one last time. Saw a cute BSW with a nice, tight booty in yoga pants so I pulled into a street. She quoted 80 for hhr with no singing. Wouldn't do 60 for FS. I decided to pass. Drove all the way up to BHR where I saw two young, curvy chicks in short booty shorts and bikini tops coming out of some dry cleaners. They quoted 100 for hhr, 80 for QV. They wouldn't back down as well. I told them no thanks. Kind of regretted it as I watched those juicy tits and fat ass walk away.
Went home empty-handed.
Is 80 and 100 usual for qv and hhr? Usually those are IC rates.[/QUOTE]Please don't be paying street pickups 80 (or more). Unless they really rock your world, it's not worth it. The ones on the street who want 80 are usually girls who advertise online. Mostly black girls I have run into trying to charge that much on the street.
[QUOTE=BarebackGuy;3730822]Please don't be paying street pickups 80 (or more). Unless they really rock your world, it's not worth it. The ones on the street who want 80 are usually girls who advertise online. Mostly black girls I have run into trying to charge that much on the street.[/QUOTE]I just moved to the area and have been looking for spots to have fun and driving the streets. The whole time woundering what the usual car rate range is. Were I'm from 20 to 30 is head, add 10 to 20 for full service and 20 plus for greek. If the have a place it adds another 10 to 20, of course everything can be negotiated.
To add I was out last night at 9 to 10 pm and agian at say 2 am, saw some on 27th nothing I would stop for most here are way bigger then I'm used to. On VB I saw nothing but in 7th ave and IS there was I long haired blonde big boned girl not to my likings. I'm a spinner lover and here they are hard to find.
Any help would be great.
Do any of you guys try to find girls in some of the older hotspots? Places where there was a lot of street activity years ago? Other than Van Buren, it seems most of the streets that were full of working girls before are pretty dead now. For example, Apache and Main St used to be good in the east valley, but with the light rail and redevelopment, I rarely see anything there anymore.