If you have a significant other, to hobby, you'll need to hide money and time
Hiding money is something you can do or not. Having unaccounted for money is available for you or it isn't. But time. We can all adjust time to our favor.
One way to circumnavigate the need to explain time is to have your actions open and known.
I made getting a massage a regular thing. Have it out in the open. Let your significant other know you get massages for your neck, back, or whatever, just not for your balls.
In the beginning go to legitimate places she can know about, maybe even go with her a time or two. Yes, it will cost, and you'll have to endure a real massage with no release a few times, but make this investment at the start and live with less fear of being caught from then on. When she is comfortable to the idea you get regular massages that are completely innocent you can adjust the places you go to where the real fun is.
This way if you are ever spotted, near, or entering or leaving a massage spa she won't be all freaked out. And if it is a questionable place and you are questioned about it, you can say you tried it and didn't like it, or was just checking it out.
This can also help with the money issue if you put it on a credit card, or dip too far into the budget. She can know you got a massage and that is where the money went. I would also make getting a massage a monthly thing so she will even expect it. If you have a good excuse like an injury or pain, or are an athlete, and can afford more great. Good on ya. You can even tell her it is cheaper than a Chiropractor (although this is a stretch of the truth).
Other ways to hide time.
Going to a bar with friends is easy. And you get to stop by a bar for a beer after the massage to sweeten the pot so you have beer breath when you get home. In the past I would tell girlfriends I was scouting out new micro brewery's, which always provided an hour or two.
The gym is good but always the danger of her stopping by for what every reason. But the gym is good because you won't have your phone on you, and you can shower and show up at home clean.
My easy favorite time block was a motorcycle ride. I enjoy exploring on the bike, and don't need a destination. Then I either say I went to a place or say I just rode down the coast or where ever. I also can't answer the phone on the bike and make it clear I ride to relax and don't intend to monitor the phone. I'll check it when I feel like it. Easy to hide 2 hours.
The overtime at work is a good one if she is use to you working overtime now and then. If you normally don't work overtime, start setting this one up too. Stay late a few times, so when you do have to stay late it will seem normal to her. Easy to hide an hour or especially a half hour if that is to your liking. Just watch out she doesn't call to ask what you want for dinner, or when do you plan to be home. Innocent questions are sneaky ways women check up on us.
I don't know how you handle your phone, but I don't live with mine under my nose, and I don't monitor it except during the important business hours when I'm working. Don't get in the habit of answering or responding to her calls instantly. Start leaving it in the car, the saddle bags on the bike, or even in the office when you leave the office for short activities like shopping or lunch. Watch out using the phone battery was dead excuse. That only works so long. So does phone was on silent, unless there are legitimate times she knows your phone is supposed to be on silent.
My job requires times the phone must be silent, so if I get a call or a text, and she has to wait till I respond that is just a normal thing. Easy to hide an hour even in the middle of the day. If you are already on a technology leash where she calls or texts and you instantly respond you'll have to break that leash gradually. Learn to make her wait for a reply. But watch out, women will be annoyed about you suddenly not responding quickly like you have in the past.
I don't take my phone into spas. I don't use a translation app, and I don't need to make any calls. But when I get to the car, I do check the phone right away. And interestingly I often enough got a call from my SO at the magic time I was with a provider. Never underestimate female intuition. And since I set it up already I could tell them I was getting a massage or give any answer I wanted. And usually they called for silly stuff, like dinner ideas, or could I pick up whatever on the way home. Never has it been anything important, but if you're not prepared to explain the time you were away from your phone it could cause problems.
If you come out of a spa and see she called, or sent a text, I'd respond before she calls or sends another text. You responding to her is better than her feeling you are not responding and needs to hunt you down. That is unless you already set up long communication blackout periods she is use to. Plan ahead and you may never fall behind.
I still say just set it up so she knows you get massages then you won't have to find the time to have fun, you still might have to carefully manage the money though.
Just some thoughts to help the new guys to the hobby that crossed my mind driving today. I hope somebody finds them useful, if you don't thank you for reading them anyway.
Thad's First time young male experience?
Considering going to Thad's for the first time and I've been reading some posts here although most seem aimed at older gentlemen. Been looking to visit a swingers club and see what the lifestyle looks like. Context: I'm in college, single, decent looking (I take care of myself and have had good success dating so far) and pretty outgoing. Obviously can't drink there yet so prob pre gaming. Can anyone provide some insight on what the experience would be like? Also what day would you recommend going for the first time? (Their calendar lists Wednesday as hump day and idk what that is).
Thads is a fun place if you show up with the right attitude
[QUOTE=Winston029;6083942]Considering going to Thad's for the first time and I've been reading some posts here although most seem aimed at older gentlemen. Been looking to visit a swingers club and see what the lifestyle looks like. Context: I'm in college, single, decent looking (I take care of myself and have had good success dating so far) and pretty outgoing. Obviously can't drink there yet so prob pre gaming. Can anyone provide some insight on what the experience would be like? Also what day would you recommend going for the first time? (Their calendar lists Wednesday as hump day and idk what that is).[/QUOTE]Glad you are reading posts, please read my other posts on Thads to give you more insight.
Think of it as an adult social club with men naked all the time and women having optional attire down to nothing.
Expect way more men than women, expect women to be older, the younger ones these days seem to be on the larger side. But some hotties do show up.
Go there to meet people. Be friendly and polite. Talk to the men as well as the women.
Always ask for permission to do anything, even to watch a show a couple might be putting on.
You can bring alcohol, but you can't take anything home, so finish it or expect to leave the remainder behind.
Wed and Thur are generally slow nights and very hit or miss. Friday to me is a good beginners night. And if you like it go back Saturday which will be busier.
Everything simply depends on who shows up that day, and if you know how to make friends. Good luck.
Golf works best for Golfers
Jaguar you have some good points. As a disguise alone, Golf is not realistic.
You have to already be a golfer, which I am.
You do golf when you want golf, and you can play when you need a few hours to "play. ".
Fortunately I don't have to show receipts to anyone, and my SO doesn't watch, or ride along when it's just the guys or one of my practice rounds. The only time she comes is if we play doubles with other couples. I like to play and practice more so it works.
Tee times are set up by a phone call if I do it, or can be set up by one of my friends. No texts to track.
If receipts are an issue, on your fun day, tee up for 18, play 9 and then go enjoy 2 hours of fun time. Or reverse it. Go to spa first, have fun, then golf 9 and be gone the usual 4 hrs as if you played 18.
You can also just go to the range and hit a bucket of balls. No tee times needed. Throw clubs in back of car, tell SO you'll be hitting the range after work for practice and bingo, easy half or full hour all your own.
Golf is expensive, so I agree with you there.
"Fore!
[QUOTE=Jaguar300ZX;6084233]Take it from someone who's been there, the Golfing disguise can get very expensive!
You got to buy a full set of Golf Clubs (and bag), Golf Shoes, and a Left-hand glove at the Pro Shop.
Show receipts for Green Fees, and Golf cart rentals, and create fake text messages about Tee-Times,
rub fresh grass stains on your shoes, and take fake Selfie Pics of yourself on the links, etc.,
It's a lot of work to set-up and can be costly.
(Plus what do you say if your SO wants to go watch you play? Or offers to be your Caddy/Golf-cart driver?)[/QUOTE]
Any bars near downtown / gas lamp that is more of a
Going down for a boys trip 9/8-9/12 and will have 9/11 to myself.
I'm debating where I should get an Airbnb, likely somewhere close ish to nightlife in case I get lucky.
The question is. Are there any / many bars that are geared towards the service industry? Figure some of these gals may be a little more open minded for some fun unless I get lucky with a local / visitor.
Otherwise. Any "spot" that might be SW friendly? Or would I have to go closer to Logan. Thanks!
BYOC. Bring your own condoms
I like to allure regular Massage providers to offering me more on the menu so I prefer to bring my own condoms when I'm planning to propose more action above a regular massage HE experience. When they see you are prepared it can make the difference. Besides, the Massage HE places usually don't have condoms, if they do, well then they're probably more of a FS place to start with. I usually have two on me just in case there is a whole lot of fun to be had.
And if you do get to use it, expect to take it with you once done. Tie it in a knot and wrap in tissue, toss away at your convenience.
In my experience, FS places usually take care of the whole condom maintenance issues themselves.
This is how I build their trust to allow FS. I bring condom, I take it away, and I keep all the fun a secret. It hasn't happened but if one we're to break, I'd not break their trust by continuing to fuck them, and would not to cum in side if I knew the condom had broke and they were expecting to be safe. To me, pregnancy and disease are serous considerations.
Been using condoms since the beginning of my sexual exploits, so I know the brands with the fit and quality I trust. Personally I would never trust a "house" condom. The cost of buying my own condoms is not significant to me. Those with SO be sure you don't leave one in your pocket when you go home.
I have had providers inspect my condoms and insist on putting it on me themselves. Most of the ones I seduce to FS generally let me put it on and remove.
Maybe the FS mongers like the idea of getting BB when they were supposed to be wearing a condom, but I prefer the simple fact that I get more by having them.
As for breakage: when putting on a condom, don't stretch it super tight over your tip, leave a little room for the explosion.
Yup no more bareback for this cowboy
[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;6090423]I like to allure regular Massage providers to offering me more on the menu so I prefer to bring my own condoms when I'm planning to propose more action above a regular massage HE experience. When they see you are prepared it can make the difference. Besides, the Massage HE places usually don't have condoms, if they do, well then they're probably more of a FS place to start with. I usually have two on me just in case there is a whole lot of fun to be had.
And if you do get to use it, expect to take it with you once done. Tie it in a knot and wrap in tissue, toss away at your convenience.
In my experience, FS places usually take care of the whole condom maintenance issues themselves.
This is how I build their trust to allow FS. I bring condom, I take it away, and I keep all the fun a secret. It hasn't happened but if one we're to break, I'd not break their trust by continuing to fuck them, and would not to cum in side if I knew the condom had broke and they were expecting to be safe. To me, pregnancy and disease are serous considerations..[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more. Condom breakage has happened to me twice and yeah sure it felt really good at the time but after those incidents and then me being reckless a few times by going bare with a few willing providers it's costing me more money and stress out of pocket to get tested. Probably spent over $600 within the last 2 months getting tested multiple times to make sure I don't got shit to pass to my SO. The last 2 weeks had been stressful making up excuses not to fuck her as I had to wait at least 14 days after exposure before getting fully tested. Finally did it this week and results say I'm clear. Never going raw again. Not worth the extra money, stress on you (and the provider), and risks to your health or your SO's health if you have one.
Temptation Aside Think With the Big Head
If you take a STI / STD home to your SO, it won't be good for anybody. Nobody is going to believe you got it from a "toilet seat. ".
If you feel you might have something not fucking your SO till you get an all clear test result is smart. All us mongers and providers hope you've stopped all your monger action too. It would not be cool to be spreading anything around.
Since you stopped fucking your SO beware that if you break your sex rhythm with her without a solid excuse she's going to wonder why you're avoiding sex with her. She might get suspicious right away and wonder if you're not getting it from her, who are you getting it from?
As for "accidental" BB action when a condom breaks. If you break a condom and know it and keep fucking her bare, that is not cool. She expects you to be wrapped up and if you aren't well you're breaking the "deal" and her trust. Then she'll be less likely to trust other mongers and you ruin it for the next guy. Be a good Eskimo brother treat the women right.
[QUOTE=DeadAzz;6093477]Man that's tempting AF. But as fine and great as she is she's also been too high volume for me to want to risk it again. The stress sucks. But I know it is definitely hard to pass up when offered.[/QUOTE]