Arrangement Reports

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5667035]Your assumption here is that there is a guy that she is banging "for free" or because "she wants to" and he "doesn't pay her. " Bro, women are attracted to social status and that guy is "paying for it" in some way or another. That IS what turns them on. It's not the same for women than it is for us. The guy who she might bang for free probably has "enough" social status or money. But if you're saying that women fuck poor hot guys all the time, then I say that if the guy is too poor and can't "pay for it" in some way then the attraction is likely not there. Your ability to pay for it, in some way or another, is proof that she is valuable and that is exactly what turns her on and it turns her on way more than some dude who watched a youtube video called alpha male tips in a basement somewhere and thinks he is smooth talking women. Men who get women "naturally" almost always have a way to pay for it some way and that helps way more than giving your money away on self-help videos promising to get you laid. If Alpha males do exist, they certainly are not spending money on videos telling them how to be Alpha, they are getting money because money gets you pussy. Thinking about getting pussy will not get you money but thinking about getting money will always lead you to getting pussy.[/QUOTE]

There's an important distinction missing here between 'women' and the young 20 somethings that we all shoot for on SA. Yes, there are upscale, hot, young women prowling the Viagra Triangle downtown looking for the 'complete' alpha package: some combination of good looks, athletic, successful, smooth talking etc. But I can easily pull up a dozen social network profiles of very hot young girls I hooked up with on SA or as providers in the past who gush about their undying love and loyalty to guys who are absolute losers in every sense of the word. They're jobless, homeless, out of shape, sloppy looking, constantly cheating and sometimes abusive, and these very attractive girls are most definitely fucking them for free. I can certainly accept that I pay for it because these girls prefer someone their own age and in their own social circle, but there's no way I'll elevate these guys to 'alpha' status.

[QUOTE=FafaFooey;5667826]There's an important distinction missing here between 'women' and the young 20 somethings that we all shoot for on SA. Yes, there are upscale, hot, young women prowling the Viagra Triangle downtown looking for the 'complete' alpha package: some combination of good looks, athletic, successful, smooth talking etc. But I can easily pull up a dozen social network profiles of very hot young girls I hooked up with on SA or as providers in the past who gush about their undying love and loyalty to guys who are absolute losers in every sense of the word. They're jobless, homeless, out of shape, sloppy looking, constantly cheating and sometimes abusive, and these very attractive girls are most definitely fucking them for free. I can certainly accept that I pay for it because these girls prefer someone their own age and in their own social circle, but there's no way I'll elevate these guys to 'alpha' status.[/QUOTE]You are 100% correct! Out of all the girls I have banged on SA some free most paid for I have seen them through snap or Instagram with their boyfriends and I will tell you They are not rich LOL. The majority almost all are within 3 years of their age. I have not seen one girl from SA post Instagram photos or snaps of some 40 year old rich guy they are banging. One girl I banged for free it appears is dating a guy about 10 years older who seems to be doing good financially and is ok looking. The rest are all bums LOL.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5667035]Your assumption here is that there is a guy that she is banging "for free" or because "she wants to" and he "doesn't pay her. " Bro, women are attracted to social status and that guy is "paying for it" in some way or another. That IS what turns them on. It's not the same for women than it is for us. The guy who she might bang for free probably has "enough" social status or money. But if you're saying that women fuck poor hot guys all the time, then I say that if the guy is too poor and can't "pay for it" in some way then the attraction is likely not there. Your ability to pay for it, in some way or another, is proof that she is valuable and that is exactly what turns her on and it turns her on way more than some dude who watched a youtube video called alpha male tips in a basement somewhere and thinks he is smooth talking women. Men who get women "naturally" almost always have a way to pay for it some way and that helps way more than giving your money away on self-help videos promising to get you laid. If Alpha males do exist, they certainly are not spending money on videos telling them how to be Alpha, they are getting money because money gets you pussy. Thinking about getting pussy will not get you money but thinking about getting money will always lead you to getting pussy.[/QUOTE]Do you have any of the social media accounts of the girls you have met on SA? Did you see what their boyfriends look like?

[QUOTE=Limeyincal;5667564][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bde9c947-a643-403e-8149-ece978051783[/URL]

This one looks hot in her pictures, took a few days of messaging to get her number. When I did I texted her and the "want to buy my pics and videos" started almost immediately. Told her I don't buy pics or vids. Said she would visit for 300, everything was available, but wanted 50 upfront to get her nails done!

Nope next.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/57208229-b08f-47c2-acb3-bc459a33769a[/URL]

This one messaged me she was seeking financial help. Texted her asking if she wanted to get together. Crickets![/QUOTE]I can verify the second one is definitely a time waster. Texted for days, Set up a time to meet, ghosted the day of and crickets ever since.

[QUOTE=JustinFields;5668141]You are 100% correct! Out of all the girls I have banged on SA some free most paid for I have seen them through snap or Instagram with their boyfriends and I will tell you They are not rich LOL. The majority almost all are within 3 years of their age. I have not seen one girl from SA post Instagram photos or snaps of some 40 year old rich guy they are banging. One girl I banged for free it appears is dating a guy about 10 years older who seems to be doing good financially and is ok looking. The rest are all bums LOL.[/QUOTE]" I have not seen one girl from SA post Instagram photos or snaps of some 40 year old rich guy they are banging. ".

Only because it's taboo and I have seen plenty of 20 yr old instagram models that travel the world and take pics of them traveling the world. How do you think a 20 yeard old is traveling to the Mediterranean for months? Because of her jobless boyfriend? So, you're saying that their jobless boyfriend is hitting it for free because her bought youtube videos that taught him how to be "alpha? So not only do I reject your claim that instagram is an accurate reflection of reality but I actually do not see a bunch of hot instagram models with homeless boyfriends but I see plenty of models dating older men who allow them to live a lifestyle that they enjoy.

[QUOTE=Meddic80;5666375]I was texting with her Saturday night early Sunday morning. I pumped out she was a little bit too aggressive to my liking, but after this review I might have to revisit that and see for myself. Thanks for sharing and confirming.[/QUOTE]If you got a lot beard, don't bother. Something about ptsd.

[QUOTE=ZckBrc;5668353]" I have not seen one girl from SA post Instagram photos or snaps of some 40 year old rich guy they are banging. ".

Only because it's taboo and I have seen plenty of 20 yr old instagram models that travel the world and take pics of them traveling the world. How do you think a 20 yeard old is traveling to the Mediterranean for months? Because of her jobless boyfriend? So, you're saying that their jobless boyfriend is hitting it for free because her bought youtube videos that taught him how to be "alpha? So not only do I reject your claim that instagram is an accurate reflection of reality but I actually do not see a bunch of hot instagram models with homeless boyfriends but I see plenty of models dating older men who allow them to live a lifestyle that they enjoy.[/QUOTE]Guy banging girl for free you paying for it.

Have you ever heard of a one night stand? Have you ever got one? It happens all the time LOL. Woman do fuck guys because they find them hot LOL.

[QUOTE=SawBoy1740;5668180]I can verify the second one is definitely a time waster. Texted for days, Set up a time to meet, ghosted the day of and crickets ever since.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Meddic80;5666623]Has anyone seen her lately? She's conveniently located by me and I been trying to see her for some time now. She ghosted me 3 times in the past month. Anyone with recent experience? I curious to know how she is etc.

One main reason I kept on trying is because she's only 10 minutes from me. Other than that I don't have any concrete reasons.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0e636ead-1487-47d5-bd19-843533774dc0[/URL][/QUOTE]She also has a 7 yr old to get a babysitter for and so it is also more than likely that one has to get a room around her area.

[QUOTE=HitMan1783;5666855]Tried sending you pm.[/QUOTE]Would love to know more, currently texting her.

[QUOTE=JustinFields;5668537]Guy banging girl for free you paying for it.

Have you ever heard of a one night stand? Have you ever got one? It happens all the time LOL. Woman do fuck guys because they find them hot LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty tired of this Alpha / Beta discussion. There's *something* to it--girls like guys with status and status comes in many forms. There's psychological games guys can play with women to get them into bed and some guys are naturally better than others. And obviously women prefer physically attractive men over less attractive men. But this is basic human nature. This isn't some sort of revealed wisdom and I don't think anyone was talking about it until incels discovered Reddit and losers like Mike Cernovich wanted to start scamming people into subscribing to his YouTube or whatever. To whatever extent there is some sort of truth to Chad / Beta / whatever stuff, it's still pretty lame and there's a reason that everyone who finds it interesting seems to be some species of neck beard.

Regardless, when I was in college I fucked a bunch of hot 20 year old for free. I've fucked even hotter 20 years olds--and more of them--now that I'm in my 40's and am giving them money. And were I able to afford it when I was 20, I *absolutely* would have spent money to get even more laid by even hotter chicks than I already was at the time. So I don't really see what the point of the conversation is. Time marches on? Younger dudes are more attractive than older dudes? Women value more than one thing in a sex partner and the results are multi-factorial? These insights are facile and manifest.

It makes me laugh the fact that some guys have a childish mentality and keep dreaming that women go on SA to get banged without any financial compensation. Don't get me wrong, I've had my share of free one night stands with women I've met on SA. But that's a very, but very reduced number. You can also go to a restaurant and once in a while get something complimentary but don't think restaurants are like Salvation Army where you get free meals all the time!! Look Women don't have to be on SA to get fckd. Have you heard of tinder and other hundreds of dating sites? And nowadays Instagram or SN are platforms used for that purpose as well. Do you go to HomeDepot to buy ice cream? LOL LOL. So what makes you think women get on SA to get banged for free? LOL LOL LOL.

Time to wake up. I thought only my stories were "OnlyDreams" hence my s / and LOL.

Cheers and happy hunting!

Who has seen her? I've got a planned meet up.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/06bf413a-1245-4aa3-ab21-dca739ce3dc6[/URL]

I'd like to exchange some notes.

[QUOTE=OnlyBbbj1;5669602]Who has seen her? I've got a planned meet up.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/06bf413a-1245-4aa3-ab21-dca739ce3dc6[/URL]

I'd like to exchange some notes.[/QUOTE]I chatted with her for a couple days, then when I talked about a meet she said she was home in Springfield and wanted a small 'gift' to come back.

That along with she was only looking for 350/ meet had alarm bells going off.

[QUOTE=Pyre69;5669614]I chatted with her for a couple days, then when I talked about a meet she said she was home in Springfield and wanted a small 'gift' to come back.

That along with she was only looking for 350/ meet had alarm bells going off.[/QUOTE]And I just got the ole "send me gas money" prior line. Another scammer it would seem.

[QUOTE=OnlyDreams;5669498]It makes me laugh the fact that some guys have a childish mentality and keep dreaming that women go on SA to get banged without any financial compensation. Don't get me wrong, I've had my share of free one night stands with women I've met on SA. But that's a very, but very reduced number. You can also go to a restaurant and once in a while get something complimentary but don't think restaurants are like Salvation Army where you get free meals all the time!! Look Women don't have to be on SA to get fckd. Have you heard of tinder and other hundreds of dating sites? And nowadays Instagram or SN are platforms used for that purpose as well. Do you go to HomeDepot to buy ice cream? LOL LOL. So what makes you think women get on SA to get banged for free? LOL LOL LOL.

Time to wake up. I thought only my stories were "OnlyDreams" hence my s / and LOL.

Cheers and happy hunting![/QUOTE]Woman do not go on SA to get banged for free I can agree with that being the case 95% of the time. That being said it does happen and it happens more than you might think. I have probably banged about 20 girls from SA for no allowance. If the people here were different I would even post links of the ones I did if I never got burned here. I believe 5-7 are probably still on the site.

Is it rare? Yes.

Is it a dream? No, a dream is like winning the lotto.

I will tell you right now if I was in my 20's again my numbers of banging girls for free would be double of what it is now.

I know there is a review of her but has onyone else seen her? I'd like to see her but not sure if I should go ahead just with one review, I mean I've been screwed with Rica LOL, she had a nice review but ended up very disappointed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/03f28252-8e0b-4776-ae02-f82df024b5f8[/URL]

[QUOTE=Meddic80;5666623]Has anyone seen her lately? She's conveniently located by me and I been trying to see her for some time now. She ghosted me 3 times in the past month. Anyone with recent experience? I curious to know how she is etc.

One main reason I kept on trying is because she's only 10 minutes from me. Other than that I don't have any concrete reasons.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0e636ead-1487-47d5-bd19-843533774dc0[/URL][/QUOTE]Not recent but spent one night with her maybe 2 years ago, $4 for BBFS. Decent time but nothing to really write home about also she had a bit of a gut, looked her up on socials a few months later and turns out her gut was actually baby #2.

[QUOTE=Agoraphobe;5669904]Not recent but spent one night with her maybe 2 years ago, $4 for BBFS. Decent time but nothing to really write home about also she had a bit of a gut, looked her up on socials a few months later and turns out her gut was actually baby #2.[/QUOTE]Bruh same lmao. 300 BBFS cip at 7-8 months preggos. She's on baby #3 now.

Anyone have any experience with this one? We been exchanging messages for some time now. Finally our schedule lines up, plan on meeting for m&g and will decide / go from there. No $$ required for m&g. I'm just curious to know how's everyone experience with her. Any input is appreciated. Hopefully she doesn't ghost me, lately it's been pretty rough for me (ghosted).

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f46c09c4-0396-4880-8cb5-f3676729e8fc[/URL]

[QUOTE=GeorgeVerWest;5669806]I know there is a review of her but has onyone else seen her? I'd like to see her but not sure if I should go ahead just with one review, I mean I've been screwed with Rica LOL, she had a nice review but ended up very disappointed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/03f28252-8e0b-4776-ae02-f82df024b5f8[/URL][/QUOTE]Been texting with her. Based on our conversation she seems like a good time and she's open and up for anything. For what she's asking I feel like it's worth every penny. I was supposed to see her tomorrow at 11 am, but ended up canceling. After seeing her photos she turns out to be not my type.

Good luck and if you do see her, report back!

[QUOTE=NuruGurus;5668411]If you got a lot beard, don't bother. Something about ptsd.[/QUOTE]I don't have a beard, but I will grow them therefore she can reject me. LOL. One of the photos she sent me her gut was unbearable.

[QUOTE=Meddic80;5670190]Anyone have any experience with this one? We been exchanging messages for some time now. Finally our schedule lines up, plan on meeting for m&g and will decide / go from there. No $$ required for m&g. I'm just curious to know how's everyone experience with her. Any input is appreciated. Hopefully she doesn't ghost me, lately it's been pretty rough for me (ghosted).

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f46c09c4-0396-4880-8cb5-f3676729e8fc[/URL][/QUOTE]No experience with her, but why do some of these women choose the worse main profile pic.

She looks like a man in the first pic, but then her third pic (white dress) she looks amazing.

[QUOTE=Pyre69;5670224]No experience with her, but why do some of these women choose the worse main profile pic.

She looks like a man in the first pic, but then her third pic (white dress) she looks amazing.[/QUOTE]Hahaha! Man, now it's ruined since you mentioned the first pic 😂129315;.

[QUOTE=Meddic80;5670275]Hahaha! Man, now it's ruined since you mentioned the first pic 😂129315;.[/QUOTE]As long as she shows up to the meet and greet looking like the 3rd pic. Game on.

Any reports on this one? I know she has been on for a while and am thinking about taking the plunge.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dc541fce-f7e6-41a8-aeb0-871d5df2681c[/URL]

[QUOTE=JustinFields;5670395]Any reports on this one? I know she has been on for a while and am thinking about taking the plunge.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dc541fce-f7e6-41a8-aeb0-871d5df2681c[/URL][/QUOTE]Her description screams mega attitude. Wouldn't even bother.

[QUOTE=JustinFields;5670395]Any reports on this one? I know she has been on for a while and am thinking about taking the plunge.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dc541fce-f7e6-41a8-aeb0-871d5df2681c[/URL][/QUOTE]But 600 everything covered, cannot host.

This was 2 months ago so I wish you better luck my friend.

[QUOTE=ChicagoGoer;5670947]But 600 everything covered, cannot host.

This was 2 months ago so I wish you better luck my friend.[/QUOTE]I didn't hit her up recently but I did 2 years ago. At the time I believe she was 350-400 but can't confirm for sure. Anyways thanks for that.

She asked 600 got her down to 500 (I passed) but that was a year or more ago. She'll has a pattern of blocking if you try to get her to go lower. One report from last year said he saw her for 500 and wasn't worth it. (All covered too).

[QUOTE=JustinFields;5670395]Any reports on this one? I know she has been on for a while and am thinking about taking the plunge.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/dc541fce-f7e6-41a8-aeb0-871d5df2681c[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChicagoGoer;5670947]But 600 everything covered, cannot host.

This was 2 months ago so I wish you better luck my friend.[/QUOTE]

Given the high prices on Seeking and that they kick folks out and ban them for life I was wondering if anyone has tried Ashley Madison or other sites of late. Anyone can help me get on WeChat? Looks like it requires a QR code from an existing member. What about Kik or AFF?

[QUOTE=Posiedon;5671207]Given the high prices on Seeking and that they kick folks out and ban them for life I was wondering if anyone has tried Ashley Madison or other sites of late. Anyone can help me get on WeChat? Looks like it requires a QR code from an existing member. What about Kik or AFF?[/QUOTE]I've tried AFF a few times a while ago but you're dealing with bots, scammers and trannies (no offense) with a few legit women and of those only a few you would actually want to have sex with. I ended up meeting the ex wife of a casual friend on there, some of the best sex I've ever had. I've heard very good things about finding civilians and P4 P girls on plenty of fish. I've also heard about people getting setup for robberies on there too.

Anyone have any info on this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2f058845-3899-42fb-8ccb-bdeb3e0487e2[/URL]

Here's a dump of a few I have talked to but have NOT seen.

KayBae.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/59714c75-dc7d-4e67-a87a-20a5ed48c11c[/URL]
Wants $450.

Kendall_xoxo98.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/876dd327-ec2b-4832-8ad8-352daabb3e02[/URL]
Wants 1 k, BBFS extra, super cute girl doesn't seem like a pro, but too rich for me.

Samlovesyou29.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/eb89bc87-dfc0-4b6f-9199-c918ff1dee2c[/URL]
Strips at DejaVu, says OTC is available, but could just be a ploy to get you to come in and see her.

Miss Bombshell Doll.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/89940e41-12ee-8880-a62d-12fc5e8d074c[/URL]
Wants 600.

Xsweetnsourx.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/788c0a34-9e69-4a3d-a168-c8832465393b[/URL]
Wants 150 m&g, 500 after, blocked me when I called her out on m&g fee.

Chi-sugarbby.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/acab3344-c446-4193-9c74-9e894ef5e021[/URL]
Asks for 500, tried to get to get her down to 400, she said no.

Lizy93.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1e5dc8fb-16eb-4d89-a59b-7c00de9c6d02[/URL]
500 can host, cfs.

Bluelacegoddess.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e44dca58-a451-4c05-ada5-e40b3d7b3baf[/URL]
Wanted 750 came down to 600 on her own pretty quick, cfs, says she loves getting thoat fucked and anal, can host in wicker park.

Marymacxo21.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/99b5cde5-50d6-46b6-abc9-9bd64e1e90c3[/URL]
Wanted 600, stopped responding to texts for no reason.

Tayrosefitt.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/91dac19d-2e52-460c-a51f-a1df72e0ecb4[/URL]
600, cfs, wants you to get a room.

Happywinter.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/33535989-34f4-4c25-ac8e-3edadf7e1e8e[/URL]
Wants 1 k to start.

Scammers.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1f652ef4-94fd-49b9-a196-2aac1db98f0b[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/352ef27d-d028-42dd-b8e8-4e3ac3e8bdb3[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f21c4001-1407-435a-99f6-152ad33b4106[/URL]
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4df48220-0766-4fdd-bd60-c0cb92027835[/URL]

Any info on this lovely Latina? She asked for 600 ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/73afe409-6dea-4150-9d85-3453a9de47c7[/URL]

or any of these girls

https://members.seeking.com/member/2885a777-ee0e-43ed-958d-8be5c7d3058a

https://members.seeking.com/member/07ec54e2-54d4-4c41-a107-16b67660cd5f

https://members.seeking.com/member/1c7ec72d-4776-4cbc-bf1e-d55e6d807196

https://members.seeking.com/member/f0478334-495a-4b89-93b2-bf257b53e659

Was texting with this one for a bit. She was flirtatious and such. After working out logistics, she asked for me to send her 100 to her her nails done before meeting her. She told me she want to make sure she looks nice when I see her. I told her I'll send her the money after I'm done smoking crack lmao. She literally texted me an hour later if I was done and when I'm sending her the money lmao.

You can't fix stupid 😩.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bde9c947-a643-403e-8149-ece978051783[/URL]

[QUOTE=GeorgeVerWest;5671939]Any info on this lovely Latina? She asked for 600 ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/73afe409-6dea-4150-9d85-3453a9de47c7[/URL]

or any of these girls

https://members.seeking.com/member/2885a777-ee0e-43ed-958d-8be5c7d3058a

https://members.seeking.com/member/07ec54e2-54d4-4c41-a107-16b67660cd5f

https://members.seeking.com/member/1c7ec72d-4776-4cbc-bf1e-d55e6d807196

https://members.seeking.com/member/f0478334-495a-4b89-93b2-bf257b53e659[/QUOTE]I met with her for lunch in the summer. She is normal, but not as attractive as her pictures. She went to Columbia after that and we were planning to reconnect recently, but I had a cold and didn't want to scare her that I may give her Covid. She told me her roommate had a SD who is giving her 600 $ and that is how she came up with this number. Looks wise, I think she is worth not more than 300 - 350 $, but at least she is normal and not a scammer. She works nights, so you need to take for lunch for a M & G.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0ab89b09-d930-49c3-9ece-1ac375c779bc[/URL]

Asking 400 ppm. Lives out by Lansing and works evenings. Said no oral and covered, but decided whatever and to meet up.

Didn't vibe and pictures more flattering than irl. Was drinking a lot and was burping. Session sucked and not worth it.

This one is dtf but not my cup of tea. She has been on before and was in the west suburbs.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e8a2ce8a-2a71-46cd-9ee4-b0b2d332efdd[/URL]

[QUOTE=Meddic80;5671959]Was texting with this one for a bit. She was flirtatious and such. After working out logistics, she asked for me to send her 100 to her her nails done before meeting her. She told me she want to make sure she looks nice when I see her. I told her I'll send her the money after I'm done smoking crack lmao. She literally texted me an hour later if I was done and when I'm sending her the money lmao.

You can't fix stupid 😩.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bde9c947-a643-403e-8149-ece978051783[/URL][/QUOTE]I wrote about this chick a few days ago [URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?19231-Arrangement-Reports&p=5667564&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5667564 when her profile said she was in Rockford, now in Wisconsin.

She was only asking for $50 for her nails when I was talking to her.

[QUOTE=StanKost;5672070]I met with her for lunch in the summer. She is normal, but not as attractive as her pictures. She went to Columbia after that and we were planning to reconnect recently, but I had a cold and didn't want to scare her that I may give her Covid. She told me her roommate had a SD who is giving her 600 $ and that is how she came up with this number. Looks wise, I think she is worth not more than 300 - 350 $, but at least she is normal and not a scammer. She works nights, so you need to take for lunch for a M & G.[/QUOTE]I offered her 300 and she wouldn't take it. I don't pay 500 for anyone. I paid 350 once and 400 once. The rest have been 0-300 max. I have noticed the girls who used to be good with 300 now want 500. Many girls used to do 200 now usually I don't bother and just offer 300.