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[url=http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/backpage-seized-fbi-article-1.3919071][B]Sex ads platform Backpage.com seized by FBI* - NY Daily News[/B][/url][/QUOTE]This law was specifically crafted to hang Backpage, I am talking partially out of my ass because the facts are hazy in my memory, the government has dirt on Backpage showing they were directly involved in promoting and / or encouraging sex trade ads but were not able to shut them down, Backpage was complicit but they were unable to make them liable for users posts. This law gave them the tool to hang them. In the end normally I would be surprised that this law stands the test but given the current supreme court line up I give it a 50/50 chance that internet providers become liable for users posts. This is a nightmare for social media providers. Fuck Portman. And for you folks who are blasting Trump or Hillary, this is about Congress, not about those 2. Want to assign blame? Blame the folks who don't show up to vote, polls show the majority of us are progressives who believe in personal freedoms yet the regressive religious folks keeps winning. Don't *****, vote, and encourage people to vote. Open minded people please!

A VPN that uses allows access to overseas servers will allow you to reach TER should you want to.

[QUOTE=EightyThree;3789420]TER took its US site down as well.[/QUOTE]

I haven't used backpage that often, never really in the past several months, since finding out about USA Sex Guide. This website is all I need so hopefully it stays active. It will be tough dealing with my depression without escorts!

[URL]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/human-trafficking-banking-bill-sex-workers_us_5b045577e4b0740c25e5efd1[/URL]

[QUOTE=TickleJay;3806847][URL]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/human-trafficking-banking-bill-sex-workers_us_5b045577e4b0740c25e5efd1[/URL][/QUOTE]Wow, these guys are losing it this is getting crazy.

[QUOTE=IslandDreams;3807288]Wow, these guys are losing it this is getting crazy.[/QUOTE]They won't stop until extramarital sex of all types is wiped out. It won't happen, but they won't stop trying. They want everyone's lives to be as miserably uptight as their own.

[QUOTE=TickleJay;3806847][URL]https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/human-trafficking-banking-bill-sex-workers_us_5b045577e4b0740c25e5efd1[/URL][/QUOTE]I still get the gut feeling tells me this SESTA nonsense will be overturned by the Supreme Court. Only about 1% of people in this hobby are being trafficked against their will. Everyone else is doing it as consenting adults and not being coerced. This law is too broad and hurts too many innocent people and will be ruled unconstitutional. It's the same thing as shutting down all firearm related discussion boards just because 1% of people on those boards might commit a crime with a gun. Really stupid laws here if you just think about it from a common sense perspective.

[QUOTE=TMeister;3809224]I still get the gut feeling tells me this SESTA nonsense will be overturned by the Supreme Court. Only about 1% of people in this hobby are being trafficked against their will. Everyone else is doing it as consenting adults and not being coerced. This law is too broad and hurts too many innocent people and will be ruled unconstitutional. It's the same thing as shutting down all firearm related discussion boards just because 1% of people on those boards might commit a crime with a gun. Really stupid laws here if you just think about it from a common sense perspective.[/QUOTE]Which company is going to contest a law with the words "sex trafficking"? Also, need some standing to even get near the Supreme Court. And common sense isn't usually the basis for court decisions.

No. I think we are stuck with this one for the foreseeable future.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3809511]Which company is going to contest a law with the words "sex trafficking"? Also, need some standing to even get near the Supreme Court. And common sense isn't usually the basis for court decisions.

No. I think we are stuck with this one for the foreseeable future.[/QUOTE]The sex trafficking won't be challenged, but the law is unusually broad in it's application. The way it's written Google, FB and any site that permits posting of information could get caught up in this. Also chat lines and really any kind of dating site. The problem will still persist even with this legislation as the web sites will just move to friendlier territories.

[QUOTE=JayMalibu;3809529]The sex trafficking won't be challenged, but the law is unusually broad in it's application. The way it's written Google, FB and any site that permits posting of information could get caught up in this. Also chat lines and really any kind of dating site. The problem will still persist even with this legislation as the web sites will just move to friendlier territories.[/QUOTE]Exactly why I think the current law as written will get struck down by the Supreme Court. Basically a girl just has to post a flirty ad on Facebook and the feds can shut down a $100 billion website because it supports "trafficking"? Zero common sense.

[QUOTE=Phlasher;2992470]This one disappeared a couple years ago after a couple rip off reports. Looks like she continued down that path. Too bad, because she was a favorite for a while.

[URL]http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/07/13/police-man-allegedly-impersonated-police-officer-warren-co/87047890/[/URL][/QUOTE]Guys, as I said, I had a good time and she was skilled and attractive. But, not accurate photos. I simply wasn't happy because I paid for the full hour and she told me 25-30 in it was only 1 pop and I was out the door. After my review, she offered to make it up. I'm going to pass. While I don't think she would retaliate against me for an objective review, with her past I don't want to risk it. Be safe out there.

See post #993 below. Isn't this story two years old? Hasn't she been in jail ever since? What's there to be careful of with her? Is she doing incall from jail or something? Or is she out now this the warning?


[QUOTE=Phlasher;2992470]This one disappeared a couple years ago after a couple rip off reports. Looks like she continued down that path. Too bad, because she was a favorite for a while.

[URL]http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/2016/07/13/police-man-allegedly-impersonated-police-officer-warren-co/87047890/[/URL][/QUOTE]


[QUOTE=Enricojinx;3817866]Guys, as I said, I had a good time and she was skilled and attractive. But, not accurate photos. I simply wasn't happy because I paid for the full hour and she told me 25-30 in it was only 1 pop and I was out the door. After my review, she offered to make it up. I'm going to pass. While I don't think she would retaliate against me for an objective review, with her past I don't want to risk it. Be safe out there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WanderingAbout;3818005]See post #993 below. Isn't this story two years old? Hasn't she been in jail ever since? What's there to be careful of with her? Is she doing incall from jail or something? Or is she out now this the warning?[/QUOTE]She has been out for awhile and advertises under Mya kisses. I realized who she was after I saw her an reposted the old article. My original review was in the escorts review section a week or two ago.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/mya-kisses-escort-cincinnati-318163#erotic

Ahhhh thank you for clarity and warning.

[QUOTE=Enricojinx;3818016]She has been out for awhile and advertises under Mya kisses. I realized who she was after I saw her an reposted the old article. My original review was in the escorts review section a week or two ago.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/mya-kisses-escort-cincinnati-318163#erotic[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Enricojinx;3818016]She has been out for awhile and advertises under Mya kisses. I realized who she was after I saw her an reposted the old article. My original review was in the escorts review section a week or two ago.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/mya-kisses-escort-cincinnati-318163#erotic[/QUOTE]She also has two different numbers on Monkeys but post same pic.

[QUOTE=Enricojinx;3818016]She has been out for awhile and advertises under Mya kisses. I realized who she was after I saw her an reposted the old article. My original review was in the escorts review section a week or two ago.

https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/mya-kisses-escort-cincinnati-318163#erotic[/QUOTE]Nadia has ripped me and a lot of other guys on this site off.

[URL]http://www.fox19.com/story/38317751/sheriff-man-arrested-charged-with-murder-of-nky-mother-son-claims-she-destroyed-him[/URL]

She used to work with Tabby (later Alli Cat). What do you think the chances are the much-older guy was a SD / monger?

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;3825028][URL]http://www.fox19.com/story/38317751/sheriff-man-arrested-charged-with-murder-of-nky-mother-son-claims-she-destroyed-him[/URL]

She used to work with Tabby (later Alli Cat). What do you think the chances are the much-older guy was a SD / monger?[/QUOTE]I thought her photo looked familiar. Sad to hear of this story. Hope he was not anyone on this site.

[QUOTE=WhereDreamsGo;3825028][URL]http://www.fox19.com/story/38317751/sheriff-man-arrested-charged-with-murder-of-nky-mother-son-claims-she-destroyed-him[/URL]

She used to work with Tabby (later Alli Cat). What do you think the chances are the much-older guy was a SD / monger?[/QUOTE]I hope bubba takes care of him for the next 30 years. Seriously, you're going to blame a provider for your dumb choices in life?

Killing a child should be a capital offense.

[QUOTE=AlfReady;3825380]I hope bubba takes care of him for the next 30 years. Seriously, you're going to blame a provider for your dumb choices in life?

Killing a child should be a capital offense.[/QUOTE]Not sure what she did to upset him, but no one deserves this. I only saw her once, and she seemed pretty nice, particularly compared to Tabby. I thought there was something really familiar about her when I first saw the news report about the murder, then I remembered who she was. I think she was out of the business (at least for the most part) and working at Starbucks or something like that. I haven't followed the case, but have to think there's a pretty good chance the guy gets the death penalty.

[URL]https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2018/06/27/miami-university-professor-traveled-have-sex-minor-federal-prosecutors-say/737348002/[/URL]

Not sure is this something that's allowed to be posted. And this guy has clearly crossed the lines, but the source if their info was from here which is somewhat scary.

[QUOTE=YellowDog615;3840639][URL]https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2018/06/27/miami-university-professor-traveled-have-sex-minor-federal-prosecutors-say/737348002/[/URL]

Not sure is this something that's allowed to be posted. And this guy has clearly crossed the lines, but the source if their info was from here which is somewhat scary.[/QUOTE]If you're going after underage girls then you deserve everything you get.

[QUOTE=YellowDog615;3840639][URL][/URL]

Not sure is this something that's allowed to be posted. And this guy has clearly crossed the lines, but the source if their info was from here which is somewhat scary.[/QUOTE]The article that YellowDog's report links to makes it easy to find the USASG account that is being used by the FBI thanks to the very detailed quote about young spinners. There is another local article that gives the USASG handle of the arrested individual. It is one that you would recognize as a frequent and long-time poster in the Cincinnati threads.

The public post made by LE was directed at another member, but it would appear that our arrested party reached out to LE via PM to get more info. It is sad that things spiraled downward from there moving from young spinner to underage.

[QUOTE=Ceenote;3841040]The article that YellowDog's report links to makes it easy to find the USASG account that is being used by the FBI thanks to the very detailed quote about young spinners. There is another local article that gives the USASG handle of the arrested individual. It is one that you would recognize as a frequent and long-time poster in the Cincinnati threads.

The public post made by LE was directed at another member, but it would appear that our arrested party reached out to LE via PM to get more info. It is sad that things spiraled downward from there moving from young spinner to underage.[/QUOTE]But dude got what he deserved but it does show uncle LEO is monitoring this site. Cletus the yokel is the name the perpetrator used I'm guessing it's ok to put his name out there since it's all over the news. It shows you have to be very careful when you put stuff out there or receive information from someone else. HL29.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3841120]But dude got what he deserved but it does show uncle LEO is monitoring this site. Cletus the yokel is the name the perpetrator used I'm guessing it's ok to put his name out there since it's all over the news. It shows you have to be very careful when you put stuff out there or receive information from someone else. HL29.[/QUOTE]Agreed, he got what he deserved going after a 14 year old. What was the handle of the FBI agent and has he been removed? (Not that they couldn't have 50 other accounts here) I'm always very suspicious of PM's from members with low post counts and I always try to vet them by reading through their posts before I reply if I don't know them.

[QUOTE=YellowDog615;3840639][URL]https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/crime/crime-and-courts/2018/06/27/miami-university-professor-traveled-have-sex-minor-federal-prosecutors-say/737348002/[/URL]

Not sure is this something that's allowed to be posted. And this guy has clearly crossed the lines, but the source if their info was from here which is somewhat scary.[/QUOTE]What a dumbass if I'm traveling across country to see a provider I'm making sure she's legit. It's scary that the FBI are on here lurking are they posting or just PMing?

[QUOTE=Neostud;3841143]Agreed, he got what he deserved going after a 14 year old. What was the handle of the FBI agent and has he been removed? (Not that they couldn't have 50 other accounts here) I'm always very suspicious of PM's from members with low post counts and I always try to vet them by reading through their posts before I reply if I don't know them.[/QUOTE]When you get messages from people asking about activities when all their post are asking questions on post?

[QUOTE=Neostud;3841143]Agreed, he got what he deserved going after a 14 year old. What was the handle of the FBI agent and has he been removed? (Not that they couldn't have 50 other accounts here) I'm always very suspicious of PM's from members with low post counts and I always try to vet them by reading through their posts before I reply if I don't know them.[/QUOTE][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/member.php?605376-Smoke77[/URL] Interesting read going through his previous posts. no red flags stand out.

And Cletus, I'm sure his posts will be familiar to all in cinci and dayton. http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/member.php?507878-CletusTheYokel

[QUOTE=DaytonSteve;3841241][URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/member.php?605376-Smoke77[/URL] Interesting read going through his previous posts. no red flags stand out.

And Cletus, I'm sure his posts will be familiar to all in cinci and dayton. http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/member.php?507878-CletusTheYokel[/QUOTE]Apparently he said something that got him banned back on the 11th.

[POST=3821556]Pole smoker gets banned[/POST]

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3841307]Apparently he said something that got him banned back on the 11th.

[POST=3821556]Pole smoker gets banned[/POST][/QUOTE]I didn't see that, would have to assume he was advertising his FBI contact that got cletus busted.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;3841120]But dude got what he deserved but it does show uncle LEO is monitoring this site. Cletus the yokel is the name the perpetrator used I'm guessing it's ok to put his name out there since it's all over the news. It shows you have to be very careful when you put stuff out there or receive information from someone else. HL29.[/QUOTE]As I said, he obviously deserves what he gets, but my main point in sharing was to point out the fact that they are out here watching, it is more than just peranoia, and as HL said everyone should be careful with what they put out there.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3841307]Apparently he said something that got him banned back on the 11th.

[POST=3821556]Pole smoker gets banned[/POST][/QUOTE]Did I miss something in the story? I didn't see when the incident happened, they gave the day he was indicted by a grand jury.

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[QUOTE=BengalMan;3842278][URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2018/06/27/miami-university-professor-underage-sex-indictment/740414002/[/URL]

Just a yokel.[/QUOTE]WOW!! 30 years.

[QUOTE=UglyJoe;3842342]WOW!! 30 years.[/QUOTE]It would be wise for guys using the board to check out the posting activity of one Smoke77, who seems to be the one who was passing along info to CletusTheLocal that ended up with him in a federal prison. He's gotten a member designation I don't recall seeing on USASG before LOL. But it's also interesting to note that he was a lot more sophisticated than we sometimes give LEO operatives credit for on these boards. He had like 22 posts from March to June, but started out with the "long time listener, first time caller" ruse. He clearly had been listening, because he came across as believable. He wasn't making such overt offers that you'd be suspicious of a trap in his public posts. We sometimes think that LEO won't post reviews. But he did (I suspect they weren't real -- but then, who knows? There's nothing in the rulebook that says they can't perpetrate crimes in the course of undercover investigations, I don't think.) One of them was for a really great experience with a Wichita SW who he allegedly paid $200. While that should have seemed ridiculous, he made it seem not so by describing it as one of his five best experiences ever.

He must have kept his discussions about an underage provider either in the PMs or in voice conversations he arranged leading from them. Lesson here is not to ever let your guard down I guess. Other obvious lesson is to not continue any discussion when you've been led to believe a minor is involved. If he was going along with things on that belief -- and it's hard to see why a guy from Oxford travels to a shopping center in Kansas City to meet some third party just to meet a perfectly legal spinner that could be found much more easily closer to home -- then he probably has it coming. It seems unlikely the feds are going to go to these lengths for charges that don't involve minors or coercion or drugs or something. But who knows. Keep in mind that we cross state lines all the time in this region, so that puts us in fed crosshairs much more easily.

It's worth noting that there's nothing in CletusTheLocal's public posting history that even begins to suggest he was ever looking for anyone underage. This seems to have been a fishing expedition that started with Smoke77's discussion of an experience with a spinner.

[URL]https://www.theindychannel.com/longform/running-blind-impd-arrests-first-suspected-pimp-in-7-months[/URL]

[QUOTE=TickleJay;3857500][URL]https://www.theindychannel.com/longform/running-blind-impd-arrests-first-suspected-pimp-in-7-months[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks. Good read.

[QUOTE=TickleJay;3857500][URL]https://www.theindychannel.com/longform/running-blind-impd-arrests-first-suspected-pimp-in-7-months[/URL][/QUOTE]Cry me a fucking river. Guess they'll have to go after real criminals now. That was a good read, but notice the part about it going offshore.

[QUOTE=TickleJay;3857500][URL]https://www.theindychannel.com/longform/running-blind-impd-arrests-first-suspected-pimp-in-7-months[/URL][/QUOTE]Wouldn't everyone like a map of cincy showing where prostitution arrests happen. I'd know where to cruise. LOL.

[QUOTE=TickleJay;3857500][URL]https://www.theindychannel.com/longform/running-blind-impd-arrests-first-suspected-pimp-in-7-months[/URL][/QUOTE]It was definitely worth the read.