[QUOTE=Exec Talent]It would be really great if we had a "REAL DEAL" thread that would serve as a LIST of girls worth seeing. Just an idea. Maybe someone can start it.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]It would be really great if we had a "REAL DEAL" thread that would serve as a LIST of girls worth seeing. Just an idea. Maybe someone can start it.[/QUOTE]
Touché!!
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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]It would be really great if we had a "REAL DEAL" thread that would serve as a LIST of girls worth seeing. Just an idea. Maybe someone can start it.[/QUOTE]We need some place to find real deals with out reading through lots of otherwise entertaining conversations. I enjoy all the threads but real deals need to all in one place and concise.
"Stacy" is again using someone else's pictures. Before it was CoCo's pictures, she got called on it and has now changed to this new one. I've seen the real "Stacy". She has a real bad case of terminal cottage cheese all over her VERY large, wide legs. If your into BBW's that's great, but all of her fake pictures attract guys who aren't into BBW's. She's misleading, un-sexy, mechanical, cold and very full of herself. Thinks she's a 9, in realty she's a 4. No return date and would not reccomend to anyone. They'res much better, much nicer and much cheaper out there to be had than "Stacy". Use your real pics, *****.
Beautiful Sexy Blonde - 28
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/beautiful-sexy-blonde-28/3599488[/url]
Had a great expirience today. They are having a special 1/2 off for fathers day. 65 two hand hour and 105 for 4 hands. I met with Aura the main girl and was offered for Sky to join. Opted out but sky asked if she could watch. I was kinda turned on by it but told her if she watches she had to be toppless to do so. Score for me she has a very nice set of naturals. Aura is a very sexy lady herself. 7 on the massage. On the flip was just shy of fs had a ton of play time. Plenty of fun for all to have. Soapy massage is the way to go. My favorite part is unlike most places my finale got to rest on her not on me. I am not fond of releasing on myself.
Side note Aura offers a regular deep tissue or sweedish since she has a regular table as well. New to the house is a sex swing but was told no on fs. Maybe with some returned visits.
Happy hunting and be safe.
[QUOTE=Steve Pope]"Stacy" is again using someone else's pictures. Before it was CoCo's pictures, she got called on it and has now changed to this new one. I've seen the real "Stacy". She has a real bad case of terminal cottage cheese all over her VERY large, wide legs. If your into BBW's that's great, but all of her fake pictures attract guys who aren't into BBW's. She's misleading, un-sexy, mechanical, cold and very full of herself. Thinks she's a 9, in realty she's a 4. No return date and would not reccomend to anyone. They'res much better, much nicer and much cheaper out there to be had than "Stacy". Use your real pics, *****.
Beautiful Sexy Blonde - 28
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/beautiful-sexy-blonde-28/3599488[/url][/QUOTE]
I concur. Although I'd probably score her a 5.5 (4 = open sores), but everything else is on point.
Saw this one on BP, [url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/luscious-latina-babydoll-that-loves2doit-all-breathtaking-bombshell-21/3588670[/url]
She looks great but couldn't find any info on her, thanks for any words of advise
This girl has been advertising for a long time on and off...
Problem is these girls get bad reviews and change name and number and it is hard to keep track of them.
RTFF and you can find more about her. She does not offer Greek as her add implies and really is nothing like the pics. I tried to do a All Access hour with her in the past and she flaked on the phone and I blew her off.
[quote]PROs:
Great butt
Fit body
Non-rushed session
CONs:
Very impersonal
Fake Pictures
Not a true GFE - No Touching/Kissing
Only offers doggy style?
Too many things you cannot do[/quote]Happy Hunting.
MrB
[QUOTE=Fun On The Go]Saw this one on BP, [url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/luscious-latina-babydoll-that-loves2doit-all-breathtaking-bombshell-21/3588670[/url]
She looks great but couldn't find any info on her, thanks for any words of advise[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fun On The Go]Saw this one on BP, [url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/luscious-latina-babydoll-that-loves2doit-all-breathtaking-bombshell-21/3588670[/url]
She looks great but couldn't find any info on her, thanks for any words of advise[/QUOTE]
Search under Jessica, and you'll find some info. Not a lot. She's hard to reach. The number she's using is new, as I had her old number in my contacts. Since she didn't post her name, it'll probably change too. The first time I reached her, I told her how elusive she was, she led me to the Universal area, when I called her again, no answer. Later that night she called me at approx. midnight.
Good luck reaching her. If you do get to see her. Good or bad, we all want to know.
Snow Plow.
There are other reviews (5) on the other board that I believe are about her. The digits are different, but the description is similar and the name matches. The link is inactive. She at least is consistent, she got solid fives (average) from each reviewer.
I'd stay away, far away. As usual, something is quite wrong when we see the same ads on BP, and see little verifiable info on the girl.
But hey, go check it out for us!
She was just reviewed again on that other board with her new name, Brittani. She received a two; yes, a frickin two!
Saw this review on the other board. Another bait and switch. Just go away, fake girls. We're so sick of your crap! This is the review:
Again, I am just not going to allow myself to pay these girls who flat out lie about their pictures. If their figures were even close....
This one had nice, large tattoo on right side of chest above breast that showed in her V neck top. That an an obvious stomach roll. I mean I may have a few lbs but I am paying after all!! Obvious smoker by the slightly nicotine stained teeth.
That's about all...i took one for the team by seeing that she wasn't all that hot or desirable.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/s_e_x_y-_-_g_f_e_-_k-_i_t_t_e_n-23/3598014[/url]
[QUOTE=Vino 7373]Saw this review on the other board. Another bait and switch. Just go away, fake girls. We're so sick of your crap! This is the review:
Again, I am just not going to allow myself to pay these girls who flat out lie about their pictures. If their figures were even close....
This one had nice, large tattoo on right side of chest above breast that showed in her V neck top. That an an obvious stomach roll. I mean I may have a few lbs but I am paying after all!! Obvious smoker by the slightly nicotine stained teeth.
That's about all...i took one for the team by seeing that she wasn't all that hot or desirable.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/s_e_x_y-_-_g_f_e_-_k-_i_t_t_e_n-23/3598014[/url][/QUOTE]
Thanks for sharing. I almost called her earlier this week. Glad I didn't.
if she is bait and switch hold up the pictures and say:
"You're not the woman in these photographs." "I'm not the guy on the phone who had money."
[QUOTE=Vino 7373]*** Again, I am just not going to allow myself to pay these girls who flat out lie about their pictures. *** That's about all...i took one for the team by seeing that she wasn't all that hot or desirable.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/s_e_x_y-_-_g_f_e_-_k-_i_t_t_e_n-23/3598014[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Vino 7373]Saw this review on the other board. Another bait and switch. Just go away, fake girls. We're so sick of your crap! This is the review:
Again, I am just not going to allow myself to pay these girls who flat out lie about their pictures. If their figures were even close....
This one had nice, large tattoo on right side of chest above breast that showed in her V neck top. That an an obvious stomach roll. I mean I may have a few lbs but I am paying after all!! Obvious smoker by the slightly nicotine stained teeth.
That's about all...i took one for the team by seeing that she wasn't all that hot or desirable.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/s_e_x_y-_-_g_f_e_-_k-_i_t_t_e_n-23/3598014[/url][/QUOTE]
Staring at those perky headlights, I had to keep reminding myself that the ad is assosciated with a b&s review. That's one helluva booby trap!
Snow Plow.
Great suggestion.
I have actually done this on occasion with outcalls to me. I would have there ad up on the computer when they walked in and luckily, I have only had a few fakes. One used at least a similar (yet younger) girl for her picks and said " I have a real job and only do this PT so I have to use Fake pics". OK, I can respect that if the pics are a close representation.
But these obvious fakes are just a waste of our time and money. I guess we should keep these ads and some sample pics in the Rip-Off section, so there is a good place to at least try to document as many of these girls as possible.
Also, is there a template or sticky note that can be added to the review sections ot get reviewers to use a set minimum or info? E. G. Link, pics (real or not) and some provider details in addition to the regular review.
Example of my review. Maybe this is overkill
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1003423#post1003423[/url]
Take care and Happy Hunting.
MrB
[QUOTE=Golfcart]if she is bait and switch hold up the pictures and say:
"You're not the woman in these photographs." "I'm not the guy on the phone who had money."[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mr Bob 111]Great suggestion.
I have actually done this on occasion with outcalls to me. I would have there ad up on the computer when they walked in and luckily, I have only had a few fakes. One used at least a similar (yet younger) girl for her picks and said " I have a real job and only do this PT so I have to use Fake pics". OK, I can respect that if the pics are a close representation.
But these obvious fakes are just a waste of our time and money. I guess we should keep these ads and some sample pics in the Rip-Off section, so there is a good place to at least try to document as many of these girls as possible.
Also, is there a template or sticky note that can be added to the review sections ot get reviewers to use a set minimum or info? E. G. Link, pics (real or not) and some provider details in addition to the regular review.
Example of my review. Maybe this is overkill
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=1003423#post1003423[/url]
Take care and Happy Hunting.
MrB[/QUOTE]Such reviews are very dehumanizing. The assumption is that the girl will do exactly what she did with someone else as she did with you. Also, why not just draw LE a roadmap? Keep things as they are. When will people learn that the reason that girls like the 408/415 Asians get busted is because of too much reporting and too many details. If someone else already has posted about a girl or AMP, no need for eveyone to pile on. You guys who are raving about a certain soapy massage can expect her to have some new visitors too.
I do agree that my post may have been overkill, but as we all know YMMV based on the interactions with the girl and yourself. I do not really see that they are dehumanizing if you read the text in each girls ads and even in the post titles. If anything, they dehumanize and degrade themselves. In contrary, I think my post praises them. But as a junior member, I will follow the lead of you much senior members.
The fact is there are other sites that require such specifics and I do read there as well. Even specific sites Just to list MPs and are very specific, yet I aslo understand that this is in a VIP area only for those that post or pay. There is no doubt that LEO knows all about every girls posting on these sites. This has been discussed several times before. And the fact that I believe these sites info can not actually be used as evidence of sorts. If I am wrong about that, It would be nice for a senior member or someone in the area of law to address this and correct me.
Thanks for the feedback in either case.
MrB
[QUOTE=Exec Talent]Such reviews are very dehumanizing. The assumption is that the girl will do exactly what she did with someone else as she did with you. Also, why not just draw LE a roadmap? Keep things as they are. When will people learn that the reason that girls like the 408/415 Asians get busted is because of too much reporting and too many details. If someone else already has posted about a girl or AMP, no need for eveyone to pile on. You guys who are raving about a certain soapy massage can expect her to have some new visitors too.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/spainiard-mami-with-energy-26/2095098[/url]
This one was called by a friend of mine and when she sowed up it was a crack head twiching an all would not recomend!
Gentlemen,
I think she's lost her senses:
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/you-deserve-the-best-20/2722735[/url]
Lets see how long it takes b4 she's shut down. What a shame!
PHFJ Out!!!
[QUOTE=PokeHerFaceJon]Gentlemen,
I think she's lost her senses:
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/you-deserve-the-best-20/2722735[/url]
Lets see how long it takes b4 she's shut down. What a shame!
PHFJ Out!!![/QUOTE]Why, because she made yet another site?
Tto add to the 3 or 4 she already has? LOL
[QUOTE=PokeHerFaceJon]Gentlemen,
I think she's lost her senses:
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/you-deserve-the-best-20/2722735[/url]
Lets see how long it takes b4 she's shut down. What a shame!
PHFJ Out!!![/QUOTE]
I don't think she's bringing the wrong attention to herself, as her ads have gotten more professional, as she's matured. Besides, they're tastfully done.
I saw her a couple of years ago, and had a wonderful time. The only thing that's kept me from repeating is her location. It's totally on the opposite end of where I want to be.
I applaud her for all the efforts she puts in by continuously improving her craft, without having to reinvent herself with a new name, or phone number.
Snow Plow.
Anyone check this out yet from BP. Sounds great. Anybody that has information I would appreciate it. PM if you so desire.
Guidexes 1
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/4-hand-hour-long-bodyrubs-by-two-hot-college-girls-your-place-or-ours-22/3572058[/url]
#Also Posted Under massage Parlor - With A Different Photo#
This lady has posted several time under the BackPage Massage section and with every post, she tells you to call as her cell phone is on -- BUT she never leaves a phone number. Does anyone know if she is legit, or just someone that likes to post?
Her ad reads:
♥ Full Body Massage ♥ here in * orlando *
posted: June 22, 2010, 11:34 AM
I do Both IN and Out Call sessions. All of my sessions are at a Discounted Rate for the next 2 weeks- Rates are only 50 half hour & 80 full hour- Both will leave u with a relieved and stress free. So dont waste ur time looking any further I am ready so Lets setup ur appointments. . .
***********************************************
I would appreciate any help you can provide in helping to locate this lovely lady.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/full-body-massage-here-in-orlando/3624756[/url]
Thanks ~ You can PM me if you prefer?
[QUOTE=Loving302]#Also Posted Under massage Parlor - With A Different Photo#
This lady has posted several time under the BackPage Massage section and with every post, she tells you to call as her cell phone is on -- BUT she never leaves a phone number. Does anyone know if she is legit, or just someone that likes to post?
Her ad reads:
♥ Full Body Massage ♥ here in * orlando *
posted: June 22, 2010, 11:34 AM
I do Both IN and Out Call sessions. All of my sessions are at a Discounted Rate for the next 2 weeks- Rates are only 50 half hour & 80 full hour- Both will leave u with a relieved and stress free. So dont waste ur time looking any further I am ready so Lets setup ur appointments. . .
***********************************************
I would appreciate any help you can provide in helping to locate this lovely lady.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/full-body-massage-here-in-orlando/3624756[/url]
Thanks ~ You can PM me if you prefer?[/QUOTE]Her link is for a website, You pay the website & she'll send you her phone number! What a deal! It's just another scam, BP ought to remove this scam from advertising the B&S.
[QUOTE=Eelectri][url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/spainiard-mami-with-energy-26/2095098[/url]
This one was called by a friend of mine and when she sowed up it was a crack head twiching an all would not recomend![/QUOTE]
In the ad, her listed measurements were 26-37-38.
[QUOTE=Guidexes 1]Anyone check this out yet from BP. Sounds great. Anybody that has information I would appreciate it. PM if you so desire.
Guidexes 1
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/4-hand-hour-long-bodyrubs-by-two-hot-college-girls-your-place-or-ours-22/3572058[/url][/QUOTE]There have been other reports on this forum! Regarding these girls.
Ck the search and you will find the answers.
Spend your mula elsewhere!
I personally think her new pics and site is awesome she looks great! Shame to get criticized for improving your business as a woman just the same as woman would get criticized for doing worse in her business. Andrea looks fabulous she has really done well for herself
[QUOTE=Snow Plow]I don't think she's bringing the wrong attention to herself, as her ads have gotten more professional, as she's matured. Besides, they're tastfully done.
I saw her a couple of years ago, and had a wonderful time. The only thing that's kept me from repeating is her location. It's totally on the opposite end of where I want to be.
I applaud her for all the efforts she puts in by continuously improving her craft, without having to reinvent herself with a new name, or phone number.
Snow Plow.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Ontheloose]Thanks so much for clearing all this up for us. I am sure your awesome!
Good luck to you.
Please accept an apolagy since your not Kandi nor have you ever been, or don't accept it, truly I really don't care!
Your pictures do show a gorgeous pussy, it would go better with a great attitude. I mean after all the thousands that have been spent on you (oh that means you. Oh nevermind)
Again, Good luck to you![/QUOTE]Also Taylor Smith! She changes names like I change my underwear! LOL. Beware!
BUH
[QUOTE=Guidexes 1]Anyone check this out yet from BP. Sounds great. Anybody that has information I would appreciate it. PM if you so desire.
Guidexes 1
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/4-hand-hour-long-bodyrubs-by-two-hot-college-girls-your-place-or-ours-22/3572058[/url][/QUOTE]They are hot. Some of their pics are real, some are not though. I suggest running any of them through tineye to verify in case there was 1 pic in particular that sold you.
They will (or at least they did for me) send a photo from the cell phone to prove it was them. And I liked what I saw.
But I ended up not going. They were so inconsistent on the phone. Things that changed in the course of 24 hours:
1) Price went up and down every few minutes.
2) Services provided/what they wore during massage.
3) The location they provided was not theirs. I drove by a few minutes before our appointment time (I was THAT close to seeing them) and saw some freaky looking dude. They then flip flopped on whether or not it was their roomate or if they just used the house sometimes.
Personally. For that price for just a rub, I'd go elsewhere and get something more sane.
I have seen these girls. I do not think the pics are real. The girls are hot. Decent massage, bit NO extras are offered.
I also believe they are being deceptive with their ads. The implying that more is available and they have no intentions of supplying more.
I way over paid for the hour ($200) but thought I was going to get more than two clothed girls giving me a massage. Draping was required and not optional.
They have called and asked if I wanted to repeat, but I have declined.
[QUOTE=Guidexes 1]Anyone check this out yet from BP. Sounds great. Anybody that has information I would appreciate it. PM if you so desire.
Guidexes 1
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/4-hand-hour-long-bodyrubs-by-two-hot-college-girls-your-place-or-ours-22/3572058[/url][/QUOTE]
I booked an hour of soapy massage with Aura as it is something I've always wanted to try and have never been in the right place at the right time. Well, Aura was easy to contact, gave excellent directions, and greeted me at a very convenient condo that had lots of candles, clean towels, and a *very* clean double-height queen-size air mattress that was the location of the main event. I let Aura manage the program, and let me point out that she is a very handsome woman, and not a BBW by any means. She isn't some 90 lb. Twiggy, but for a soapy massage, being full size is definitely a plus. She is friendly, kind, not a clock-watcher, and her rates were so reasonable that I brought the total to nearer normal by means of a tip. On my first visit to Orlando I had a great time in the nude strip clubs (now, of course, gone but not forgotten); but with people like Aura around this town has become even more fun to visit. I will definitely be back for another dose as soon as possible!
[QUOTE=Vino 7373]She reinvented herself and her website to the tune of an extra $50 per hour! She now believes she's worth $250 for the hour. I'll take the old website and her old rates, thank you. If a new post and pics is worth an extra $50, I'll eat my words. I don't think so.[/QUOTE]She only has gone up $10 on her 30 minute rate. She was $140 and now she is $150. I have been to her old location and her new one is closer to I-4 and is very nice. I enjoyed my time with her but she started to get too robotic. The thing that took her off my list was setting up a meeting with her and she said to call me when I got to her area. I told her I was about 15 minutes away. When I got there 15 minutes later, she did not answer my call. I waited around 40 minutes and she never called back. I guess I expect common courtesies, and it matters to me. It sometimes limits my play friends.
I'm not bashing Andrea. Hell, I've seen her twice myself. I just think it's dangerous to expose yourself that much. After all, the current henchmen out there are always trying to clean up the area.
PHFJ
[QUOTE=Tuscany Man]She only has gone up $10 on her 30 minute rate. She was $140 and now she is $150. I have been to her old location and her new one is closer to I-4 and is very nice. I enjoyed my time with her but she started to get too robotic. The thing that took her off my list was setting up a meeting with her and she said to call me when I got to her area. I told her I was about 15 minutes away. When I got there 15 minutes later, she did not answer my call. I waited around 40 minutes and she never called back. I guess I expect common courtesies, and it matters to me. It sometimes limits my play friends.[/QUOTE]I really like her she is in my top 5 I hope she will keep her old rate with me. Damn I was goining to try her friend and her at the same time.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/v-_-_top-quality-_-pure-pleasure-_-incall-specials-_v-brazilianpr-22/3523693[/url]
Has anyone seen any brazilian girls?
Any good ones out there thanks!
After having read a very positive report on Natalia, from this site a few months back, I've been itching to get at her. I always balked at her astronomical, non-negotiable, qk rate of $.20/15min, however.
Yesterday, it was an itch I had to scratch, so I called her, and set an appointment for a qk visit. She directed me to her incall near I-Drive. Since I was in a splurging mood, I decided that if she was hot, and her attitude was nice, I would upgrade to the hh.
When I arrived at her door, it opened, and behind it stood Natalia dressed exactly as she is in her ad. The miniskirt barely hides her perfectly round assets. There she was, a statuesque figure, reminiscent of a "Splash" era Daryl Hannah. There, for me to worship, for...SCREECH!! 15mins!! You could imagine the turmoil within me. This time, the little head teamed up with the impulsive side of my brain to kick the living shit out of the side of my brain where sensibility, rationality, and frugality resided. That's when I dug in my pocket, and pulled out the extra .30 to upgrade to the hh, where her perky, youthful, b-cups became more accessible to fondle and suckle. I didn't care that she wasn't a true GFE, as I took so much pleasure out of contplating most every inch of her body. Manipulation of the kitty, and DATY, weren't available. In site of those restrictions, I still enjoyed my time with Natalia. If I were loaded, I'd become her regular. But at those rates, she'll just be a special once in awhile treat.
Up until that moment, I made it a point to never go beyond the $ threshold. I don't regret that impulsive decision.
Snow Plow.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/visiting-sexy-andyoung-blonde-xxx-girl-next-door-21/3559743[/url]
I have seen Kimie now 3 times. It was for bodyrubs, she is great at giving them. She was open to mutual touching. The picture is really her. At the time of me seeing her, GFE was not on the menu. I see her new ad with that menu item. She was not a clock watcher. Be nice to her!
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/are-you-waiting-for-an-asian-treat-come-visit-me-kimie-25/3570320[/url]
Hey Guys,
Just trying to do a little bit of research and got stuck. Is Taylor Smith ([url]http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/erotic-touching-hot-oils-and-towels-best-ass-on-bp-22/1741415[/url]) also Strawberrie?
[QUOTE=Jbender27][url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/v-_-_top-quality-_-pure-pleasure-_-incall-specials-_v-brazilianpr-22/3523693[/url]
Has anyone seen any brazilian girls?
Any good ones out there thanks![/QUOTE]I called her. Just another Rican from South Florida trying to trade on the reputation of Brazilian women as the hotest on the planet. I wouldn't expect the girl to be the one in the photos either (tattoo obliterated so you can't call her on it).
As for seeing REAL Brazilian girls, I see them all the time. They are the best. mmmmmmm, tasty.
[QUOTE=Ontheloose]With so many different names being used I wonder how many personalities will show up when a guy meets her, I hope not all 7 or 8 at once!
Shit man one personality is enough for me to deal with!
I just can try to envision all 7 or 8 showing up all at once. Would she be fighting with the other 6 or 7 telling them to go away? Might be WWF and Jerry Springer all rolled into one show![/QUOTE][QUOTE=Banguhard]Also Taylor Smith! She changes names like I change my underwear! LOL. Beware!
BUH[/QUOTE][quote]Sberrie2009
Forum Advertiser
Reports: 47 and who are you?
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and who are you again?
listen funny man
i changed my name because of le and strawberrie was never used on the site.
that was my street name
and molly and tessa was used and would of stayed the same if le left me alone
so before you talk crap,know the facts
thanks[/quote]I was responding to a post between you and OnTheLoose and you sent me the above in a PM . So is it my understanding that Serrie2009 is aka Strawberrie, Molly, Tessa, and now Taylor? Who I know for a fact is using fake pics. (because I met with her) All the above has a terrible reputation and I can personally attest to the last one too. A rush rush rush, not spending enough etc, etc, etc. Lots of ugly tats and and just really nasty attitude, even for a SW.
BUH