Stupid Shit In San Diego

I mean it takes 5 minutes to scroll and find the generic info he's asking for.

Whether a lazy newbie or LE, best to let them do their own work if they can't offer even minimal evidence that they are legit customers.

[QUOTE=ReyKittyHawk;6776624]Saw a post. Wondering if he's LE.

His very first post.

He says he is an active Monger. Says he's become a regular as some places, but doesn't give names of those places.

Says he's gotten FS at one place in and County, but again no name of the place or provider.

Says he gets FS at a place in Oceanside and Temecula, but still no names.

Then at the end he asks for places that offer FS, and says PMs are ok.

I sent a PM requesting a few names from him to see if he is legit and can share something. So far he hasn't responded.

Since I have seen the North County LE crack down close spa after spa, I'm a bit leary of new guys asking for FS locations in their first post.

Maybe I'm too careful, but if the first post gives nothing, but is asking for FS locations I am suspicious. Maybe he's being careful too, but it makes me think of LE right away.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lion1;6776734]I mean it takes 5 minutes to scroll and find the generic info he's asking for.

Whether a lazy newbie or LE, best to let them do their own work if they can't offer even minimal evidence that they are legit customers.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I don't even bother with newbies that claims they've been hobbying for years, been to "lots" of places, but no posts / reviews and their first post is to ask for specific information. That's why I keep my inbox full so I don't continue getting PMs from them asking for intel.

Agreed. For me theres an unspoken rule. If you want specifics, then earn the right to be repected here by providing detailed and relevant information of your experiences. When I read "Long time lurker, first time poster" I basically ignore the rest of the message. Same goes for PMs. Its occurred to me more than once that the vast majority of hobbyists here in SD share NOTHING of their experiences but basically use this and a couple of other sites for information. Think of how many individuals post here weekly. And compare that to the number of guys who frequent the most popular indies, spas and AAMPS. I don't mind sharing experiences here, but I've become more circumspect in recent times.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6776845]Yeah, I don't even bother with newbies that claims they've been hobbying for years, been to "lots" of places, but no posts / reviews and their first post is to ask for specific information. That's why I keep my inbox full so I don't continue getting PMs from them asking for intel.[/QUOTE]

Send me one of your UTR's! LOL.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6776845]Yeah, I don't even bother with newbies that claims they've been hobbying for years, been to "lots" of places, but no posts / reviews and their first post is to ask for specific information. That's why I keep my inbox full so I don't continue getting PMs from them asking for intel.[/QUOTE]

More like send me a 'list" of all your favorite places, ATFs, and your UTR women.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;6777642]Send me one of your UTR's! LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6776845]Yeah, I don't even bother with newbies that claims they've been hobbying for years, been to "lots" of places, but no posts / reviews and their first post is to ask for specific information. That's why I keep my inbox full so I don't continue getting PMs from them asking for intel.[/QUOTE]We can probably count on a very small number of mongers on this board that truly do contribute whether it's a review or information from personal experience. New Kids on the Block need to contribute several times with both reviews and verifiable information. Lurkers are ignored. Mongers with personal agendas are ignored. I think there are fewer than a dozen mongers on this board that I trust their contributions. Earn your stripes then you'll get attention.

[QUOTE=Manuel128;6763322]I walked into Castenedas to grab a burrito and two older Asians were at the counter ordering food. My spidey monger senses were at alert. I took a closer look and both girls were wearing unattractive sweats and jeans. They both looked pretty rough, one may have had acne. I walked up and ordered as they were just hanging out at the counter. I sat in the back and yup they both walked into Pine. LOL.

Jeez, I guess that is what they look like in the wild and with lights on. I am crossing Pine spa off the list.[/QUOTE]Pine was one of the first places I frequented regularly back in the day when it was Hana- they had some pretty impressive talent back then. Guess not so much anymore. 5.

[QUOTE=Five;6777936]Pine was one of the first places I frequented regularly back in the day when it was Hana- they had some pretty impressive talent back then. Guess not so much anymore. 5.[/QUOTE]It doesn't take much to get my imagination going and understand when providers wear civilian clothing out. The two I saw were not attractive and this is coming from someone who doesn't mind seeing grannies from time to time. LOL.

I have nothing against Pine, I have never been as the place always seemed to charge higher than places nearby. Who knows maybe the two were dropping off food to their friends and didn't work there. Manny.

[QUOTE=SirBishop;6777869]We can probably count on a very small number of mongers on this board that truly do contribute whether it's a review or information from personal experience. New Kids on the Block need to contribute several times with both reviews and verifiable information. Lurkers are ignored. Mongers with personal agendas are ignored. I think there are fewer than a dozen mongers on this board that I trust their contributions. Earn your stripes then you'll get attention.[/QUOTE]I'm relatively new at this hobby and very new to this board. I am trying to contribute where I can but my experience is lacking and thus I don't have as much to contribute as more experienced posters like yourself.

Maybe we need a mentorship program? I could definitely use some tips from someone who has been in this hobby a long time. So far I have been lucky and haven't had any terrible experiences but I still have lots to learn and tons of questions.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6776845]Yeah, I don't even bother with newbies that claims they've been hobbying for years, been to "lots" of places, but no posts / reviews and their first post is to ask for specific information. That's why I keep my inbox full so I don't continue getting PMs from them asking for intel.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6778027]I'm relatively new at this hobby and very new to this board. I am trying to contribute where I can but my experience is lacking and thus I don't have as much to contribute as more experienced posters like yourself.

Maybe we need a mentorship program? I could definitely use some tips from someone who has been in this hobby a long time. So far I have been lucky and haven't had any terrible experiences but I still have lots to learn and tons of questions.[/QUOTE]Here's a quick tip to get you started. Join Humaniplex (HX), see a few ladies there and rate each other. Tell us about those experiences. HX on its own is well situated to help you avoid the terrible experience with its rating system. HX may seem daunting at first but take time to look at each of its features. Rating is how the boys and girls there know each other is safe and not a rip off.

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6778027]I'm relatively new at this hobby and very new to this board. I am trying to contribute where I can but my experience is lacking and thus I don't have as much to contribute as more experienced posters like yourself.

Maybe we need a mentorship program? I could definitely use some tips from someone who has been in this hobby a long time. So far I have been lucky and haven't had any terrible experiences but I still have lots to learn and tons of questions.[/QUOTE]

I stick to nonFS AMPs and most of my best sessions have come from DMs from the handful of us that are out there combing through the mediocre spots looking for diamonds. I share what I know in detail and get intel in return. I also keep quiet when I do get intel as it's not mine to share.

So if you're into AMPs, go to a few sleepy spots and report back. Even if they're a bust that's useful intel for the rest of us.

[QUOTE=Cruzier1;6778799]I stick to nonFS AMPs and most of my best sessions have come from DMs from the handful of us that are out there combing through the mediocre spots looking for diamonds. I share what I know in detail and get intel in return. I also keep quiet when I do get intel as it's not mine to share.

So if you're into AMPs, go to a few sleepy spots and report back. Even if they're a bust that's useful intel for the rest of us.[/QUOTE]This makes a lot of sense to me but unfortunately I'm not an AMP guy. I have seen quite a few providers from PD and RR though. Currently I'm parading through Cuddle Comfort. I use the same name on TER and I've already had a couple people PM me to ask about providers I have reviewed.

My biggest questions aren't related to specific establishments or providers but about more general stuff. For example what is the standard for a hhr session? Does that always include FS or sometimes not? Or how do you know if an hr session includes msog if it's not specified?

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6779550]This makes a lot of sense to me but unfortunately I'm not an AMP guy. I have seen quite a few providers from PD and RR though. Currently I'm parading through Cuddle Comfort. I use the same name on TER and I've already had a couple people PM me to ask about providers I have reviewed.

My biggest questions aren't related to specific establishments or providers but about more general stuff. For example what is the standard for a hhr session? Does that always include FS or sometimes not? Or how do you know if an hr session includes msog if it's not specified?[/QUOTE]In a nutshell, one can always text or call the establishment, rates have gone up. PD and RR, T3 R, etc have the rates posted are they always correct?.

When you read inbetween the lines, it's always YMMV, but when you see the reports on a specific place, like the establishment that was just shut down, as the saying goes "when you know, you know". There's already a list of places that people have reviewed and sometimes quite excessively.

Or.

RR, do you get what you paid for? When it's advertised $260/ hour FBSM, what's the extra fee you have paid to get extras? Where are your reviews of the people you provided beside T3 R, which needs a subscription. (contribute here as well as T3 R, I know writing reviews on that site, gives one a limited amount of days free.

To everyone, it's the looks of provider, and others it's wam bam thank you ma'am. (I. E. Jen [URL]https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6195000688;[/URL] or Breezy [URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Breezy1[/URL] [URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/breezy-escort-orange-county-95287[/URL] or another older Selma [URL]https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6196326380[/URL].

Again to each their own.

Examples of ads for AMPs:

Rates posted:

[URL]https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/6904-miramar-rd-210-sd/23158481.html[/URL]

Some are little more indiscreet:

[URL]https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/linda-vista/23144576.html[/URL]

[URL]https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/3659-india-st-200-san-diego/23158140.html[/URL]

No rates posted, but one can assume.

Long story short, the information is out there.

[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;6780142]In a nutshell, one can always text or call the establishment, rates have gone up. PD and RR, T3 R, etc have the rates posted are they always correct?.

When you read inbetween the lines, it's always YMMV, but when you see the reports on a specific place, like the establishment that was just shut down, as the saying goes "when you know, you know". There's already a list of places that people have reviewed and sometimes quite excessively.

Or.

RR, do you get what you paid for? When it's advertised $260/ hour FBSM, what's the extra fee you have paid to get extras? Where are your reviews of the people you provided beside T3 R, which needs a subscription. (contribute here as well as T3 R, I know writing reviews on that site, gives one a limited amount of days free.

To everyone, it's the looks of provider, and others it's wam bam thank you ma'am. (I. E. Jen [URL]https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6195000688;[/URL] or Breezy [URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Breezy1[/URL] [URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/breezy-escort-orange-county-95287[/URL] or another older Selma [URL]https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6196326380[/URL].

Again to each their own.

Examples of ads for AMPs:

Rates posted:

[URL]https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/6904-miramar-rd-210-sd/23158481.html[/URL]

Some are little more indiscreet:

[URL]https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/linda-vista/23144576.html[/URL]

[URL]https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/3659-india-st-200-san-diego/23158140.html[/URL]

No rates posted, but one can assume.

Long story short, the information is out there.[/QUOTE]Rates are easy and I have found them to be accurate as posted. And yes obviously if the rate is 260 for FBSM you're going to pay more for something other than a standard FBSM.

I was asking about what the "standard" hhr rate includes for an escort, not FBSM provider.

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6780598]Rates are easy and I have found them to be accurate as posted. And yes obviously if the rate is 260 for FBSM you're going to pay more for something other than a standard FBSM.

I was asking about what the "standard" hhr rate includes for an escort, not FBSM provider.[/QUOTE]IMHO and experience for hhr.

CBJ / BBBJ.

CFS most often times only 1 position (might be lucky with more).

YMMV with each provider. (Most reports from providers that I've had a pleasure to chat with, most guys are done in less than the hhr).

[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;6781380]IMHO and experience for hhr.

CBJ / BBBJ.

CFS most often times only 1 position (might be lucky with more).

YMMV with each provider. (Most reports from providers that I've had a pleasure to chat with, most guys are done in less than the hhr).[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Do you mean both BJ and CFS? Or only one or the other?

My concern with hhr is expecting CFS and then being told it's only BJ. I have read some reviews places of times that has happened and I was just wondering if there is a "standard" to expect or if hhr is just kind of all over the map.

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6780598]Rates are easy and I have found them to be accurate as posted. And yes obviously if the rate is 260 for FBSM you're going to pay more for something other than a standard FBSM.

I was asking about what the "standard" hhr rate includes for an escort, not FBSM provider.[/QUOTE]Perhaps you should make an appointment and meet someone in person. Then post here what your experience was like. Honestly, that is how most people learn and that includes a lot of us here. You can ask lots of questions here, but the best way to learn is to experience. Oh yes, YMMV on what you are asking.

[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;6781380]YMMV with each provider. (Most reports from providers that I've had a pleasure to chat with, most guys are done in less than the hhr).[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;6780142]When you read inbetween the lines, it's always YMMV, but when you see the reports on a specific place, like the establishment that was just shut down, as the saying goes "when you know, you know".[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6779550]This makes a lot of sense to me but unfortunately I'm not an AMP guy. I have seen quite a few providers from PD and RR though. Currently I'm parading through Cuddle Comfort. I use the same name on TER and I've already had a couple people PM me to ask about providers I have reviewed.

My biggest questions aren't related to specific establishments or providers but about more general stuff. For example what is the standard for a hhr session? Does that always include FS or sometimes not? Or how do you know if an hr session includes msog if it's not specified?[/QUOTE]Standard? Again, YMMV, YMWV! A 20 something hottie is going to ask for a larger donation amount than a 40 something average looking provider. The service will also be significantly different. YMMV. Like Bishop suggested, see an ad you like, search for reviews to get an idea of service, make the appointment and go experience the session yourself. Not all sessions are going to be the same.

[QUOTE=SirBishop;6781964]Perhaps you should make an appointment and meet someone in person. Then post here what your experience was like. Honestly, that is how most people learn and that includes a lot of us here. You can ask lots of questions here, but the best way to learn is to experience. Oh yes, YMMV on what you are asking.[/QUOTE]The message / tips I hear everyone telling you in their replies are- YMMV!

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6782031]Standard? Again, YMMV, YMWV! A 20 something hottie is going to ask for a larger donation amount than a 40 something average looking provider. The service will also be significantly different. YMMV. Like Bishop suggested, see an ad you like, search for reviews to get an idea of service, make the appointment and go experience the session yourself. Not all sessions are going to be the same.

The message / tips I hear everyone telling you in their replies are- YMMV![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SirBishop;6781964]Perhaps you should make an appointment and meet someone in person. Then post here what your experience was like. Honestly, that is how most people learn and that includes a lot of us here. You can ask lots of questions here, but the best way to learn is to experience. Oh yes, YMMV on what you are asking.[/QUOTE]I have made several appointments and have met several people in person. I have also read lots of reviews about providers I have seen and others I have not. And that is why I am asking this specific question. From what I have read and experienced personally, when you book an HR it seems that CFS is standard. I have never had a provider try to tell me that's not included in an hour.

What I am trying to avoid is booking a HHR and then show up only to have the provider say sorry that does not include CFS and it's only CBJ. So what I'm asking is does HHR generally include CFS or is that more often YMMV or "optional"?

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6782099]I have made several appointments and have met several people in person. I have also read lots of reviews about providers I have seen and others I have not. And that is why I am asking this specific question. From what I have read and experienced personally, when you book an HR it seems that CFS is standard. I have never had a provider try to tell me that's not included in an hour.

What I am trying to avoid is booking a HHR and then show up only to have the provider say sorry that does not include CFS and it's only CBJ. So what I'm asking is does HHR generally include CFS or is that more often YMMV or "optional"?[/QUOTE]You've met several people, yet no reviews. You mentioned in a post about seeing Paige 5-6 years ago, so you've been hobbying at least that long. Yet, no to very little reviews, at least on this board.

Good luck to you with the hobby!

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6782107]You've met several people, yet no reviews. You mentioned in a post about seeing Paige 5-6 years ago, so you've been hobbying at least that long. Yet, no to very little reviews, at least on this board.

Good luck to you with the hobby![/QUOTE]I just discovered this board and started posting here. Paige was one of my first and I didn't really start hobbying until several years later.

I have lots of reviews posted on TER and PD. It seems silly for me to repost them all on here just to gain some kind of street cred with you and the senior posters. Would you guys really like me to cut and paste about 50 reviews? I'm pretty sure if I did that you'd all complain that I was spamming the board with old reviews.

If you or anyone else would like to read them, my profiles are accessible on the other sites.

Ok Todd, fair enough you "just discovered" this board. Your posts appear to be full of questions but not much on the way of sharing your experiences. Try posting some detailed reviews including rates etc. You may find a more positive response. As I mentioned in an earlier post, SD is full of hobbyists who take but give back very little when it comes to sharing useful information. This board is its own community. What happens elsewhere is not particularly useful. TER is compromised as is RM. Not to say that every poster here is without agenda. There are lots of glowing reports written by management or their proxies. Similarly, some negative reports are designed to bankrupt the competition. Give and you shall eventually receive my friend.

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6782128]I just discovered this board and started posting here. Paige was one of my first and I didn't really start hobbying until several years later.

I have lots of reviews posted on TER and PD. It seems silly for me to repost them all on here just to gain some kind of street cred with you and the senior posters. Would you guys really like me to cut and paste about 50 reviews? I'm pretty sure if I did that you'd all complain that I was spamming the board with old reviews.

If you or anyone else would like to read them, my profiles are accessible on the other sites.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6782128]I just discovered this board and started posting here. Paige was one of my first and I didn't really start hobbying until several years later.

I have lots of reviews posted on TER and PD. It seems silly for me to repost them all on here just to gain some kind of street cred with you and the senior posters. Would you guys really like me to cut and paste about 50 reviews? I'm pretty sure if I did that you'd all complain that I was spamming the board with old reviews.

If you or anyone else would like to read them, my profiles are accessible on the other sites.[/QUOTE]You don't need to gain / show any "street cred" with me. A lot with the hobby is YMMV. I think most of us are saying, post some reviews instead of just asking. You have 30 plus posts and they are almost all questions. I think one monger said it best; Give to Get! You didn't just discovered this forum. You're a Senior Member and had to be a member of the forum for at least 6 months. You haven't seen anyone in the past 6 months since being on the board that you can share?

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6782128]I just discovered this board and started posting here. Paige was one of my first and I didn't really start hobbying until several years later.

I have lots of reviews posted on TER and PD. It seems silly for me to repost them all on here just to gain some kind of street cred with you and the senior posters. Would you guys really like me to cut and paste about 50 reviews? I'm pretty sure if I did that you'd all complain that I was spamming the board with old reviews.

If you or anyone else would like to read them, my profiles are accessible on the other sites.[/QUOTE]Could you start with someone you've seen recently in the past, let's say, month? Is that fair to ask?

I don't post all the time myself, because I've been doing the same women for that I've already reviewed, what more can one say about BBBJ / dt and cfs from k9-mish.

Or all around the world with the same provider. Only time, if I'm willing to share if that provider allows me to share another terrific session.

The agenda for them is that they want more clients and repeat business.

So here's a question for you. What is it you are looking for? I think I answered your question and how did you like the answer?

[QUOTE=ToddRichards12;6781512]Thanks for the info. Do you mean both BJ and CFS? Or only one or the other?

My concern with hhr is expecting CFS and then being told it's only BJ. I have read some reviews places of times that has happened and I was just wondering if there is a "standard" to expect or if hhr is just kind of all over the map.[/QUOTE]I didn't read too far down enough and you were not satisfied with the answer I gave.

Let me spell it clearly.

The examples of the providers I gave you. You can scroll down and search.

Selma not a looker but a nympho in bed.

BBBJ and CFS for 120 for 15 min. Not a clock watcher. Went to hhr.

She will post specials.

Recent post. https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/164619143

She may not be your cup of tea and I’ve seen her many times. I’ve stopped because she found out I’ve fucked her daughter and she won’t have sex with anyone that does that
Go figure. Selma will also make you wait up to 45 min. Which I don’t care for.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6782361] You didn't just discovered this forum. You're a Senior Member and had to be a member of the forum for at least 6 months. You haven't seen anyone in the past 6 months since being on the board that you can share?[/QUOTE]Dammit DatyKing will you please stop making sense LMAO!

[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;6782777]She may not be your cup of tea and Ive seen her many times. Ive stopped because she found out Ive fucked her daughter and she wont have sex with anyone that does that

...

Otherwise can't wait until her granddaughter comes of age and then it will be a trifecta.[/QUOTE]Fucking legend lmao.

[QUOTE=DrPornDawger;6782642]Could you start with someone you've seen recently in the past, let's say, month? Is that fair to ask?

I don't post all the time myself, because I've been doing the same women for that I've already reviewed, what more can one say about BBBJ / dt and cfs from k9-mish.

Or all around the world with the same provider. Only time, if I'm willing to share if that provider allows me to share another terrific session.

The agenda for them is that they want more clients and repeat business.

So here's a question for you. What is it you are looking for? I think I answered your question and how did you like the answer?[/QUOTE]Sure, I'm happy to post a review with someone I have seen recently. I'll do it today.

I was looking to find out if there is a standard for what's included in a hhr session or if that varies a lot between different providers. Basically if that always includes CFS or not. Your answer confused me a bit as I was unclear if you meant in your experience it included both CBJ / BBBJ and CFS (one position) or just one or the other.

[QUOTE=RChangDatyKing;6782361]I think most of us are saying, post some reviews instead of just asking. You have 30 plus posts and they are almost all questions. I think one monger said it best; Give to Get![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RolfTorren;6782261]Your posts appear to be full of questions but not much on the way of sharing your experiences. [/QUOTE]I'm happy to start posting some reviews on here. I think you guys must have missed some of my posts.

My first post on this forum was less than 2 months ago. In the first 2 weeks or so, I asked about 2 different providers while at the same time answering questions from other posters about 3 different providers I have seen before. So there I gave more than I received.

I also made a post asking for recommendations for new FBSM providers that actually have real massage skills. That post included me sharing 2 of my own recommendations so that anyone who was willing to answer my question already had my recommendations without having to ask. Giving before I received anything.

Since then I've asked a few more questions. I haven't answered any because I haven't had any info to provide anyone who has asked. However, I have exchanged some info with a few posters via PM that you obviously wouldn't be privy to.

[QUOTE=SirBishop;6778475]Here's a quick tip to get you started. Join Humaniplex (HX), see a few ladies there and rate each other. Tell us about those experiences. HX on its own is well situated to help you avoid the terrible experience with its rating system. HX may seem daunting at first but take time to look at each of its features. Rating is how the boys and girls there know each other is safe and not a rip off.[/QUOTE]This is great advice. I also go to HX when I need a reset. If I had some bad experiences, I go to some Hx girls where I'll know what I'm going to get and should leave happy. Then, I'll try to take some chances on the other websites where the girls might be riskier.

Especially the Asian agencies now are great. Really impressed with the talent they bring in.

[URL]https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2024/feb/09/sdqt-massage-parlor-allowed-to-re-open-after-re-branding-as-church/?amp&page=all[/URL]

[QUOTE=JDome;6786739][URL]https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2024/feb/09/sdqt-massage-parlor-allowed-to-re-open-after-re-branding-as-church/?amp&page=all[/URL][/QUOTE]Thats fucking insane. Guess they just want to get shut down.

[QUOTE=JitMarc;6787415]Thats fucking insane. Guess they just want to get shut down.[/QUOTE]In case it's not clear, this is a parody news article. It's tagged with "SD on the QT: Almost Factual News". If you follow the link, all the other stories with that tag are clearly joke articles.

[QUOTE=JitMarc;6787415]Thats fucking insane. Guess they just want to get shut down.[/QUOTE]They will literally be the perfect example of "Fuck Around and Find Out. ".

I'm 95% sure Sevendayswolf is a shill. His account is relatively new, and he keeps posting glowing reviews for Blue Sky Spa. In particular, he posted two word-for-word identical reviews for two different providers:

On 1/4/24 he wrote:

"Tiffany is worth the time.

She was one of the great masseuses here. She's in 40's, sexy and cute. Tiffany is everything that is written about her and more. Sweet lady that's willing to do what it takes for your and her pleasure. Yes she enjoys it as well. Started off with some shoulder rubbing to break the ice. It quickly turned into a BBBJ which damn near had me. Excellent BBBJ not even a hint of teeth. The cover was on and CG before I knew it. I wanted some Missionary and she was all for it. Tiffany can and will take a good pounding and enjoys it.

Finished off with some more BBBJ and a HJ.

Treat her right and she'll definitely take care of you. ".

On 2/8/24 he wrote:

"Wendy is everything that is written about her and more. Sweet lady that's willing to do what it takes for your and her pleasure. Yes she enjoys it as well. Started off with some shoulder rubbing to break the ice. It quickly turned into a BBBJ which damn near had me. Excellent BBBJ not even a hint of teeth. The cover was on and CG before I knew it. I wanted some Missionary and she was all for it. Wendy can and will take a good pounding and enjoys it.

Finished off with some more BBBJ and a HJ.

Treat her right and she'll definitely take care of you. ".

Literally the same words, and more than half of his meager posts are about this one place. Also suspect that TexiMex/Cowboy5 are also shills (possible even the same person using different accounts).

Admins please address this. Can't stand shills / simps!

[QUOTE=StubbornMule;6795244]I'm 95% sure Sevendayswolf is a shill. His account is relatively new, and he keeps posting glowing reviews for Blue Sky Spa. In particular, he posted two word-for-word identical reviews for two different providers:

On 1/4/24 he wrote:

"Tiffany is worth the time.

She was one of the great masseuses here. She's in 40's, sexy and cute. Tiffany is everything that is written about her and more. Sweet lady that's willing to do what it takes for your and her pleasure. Yes she enjoys it as well. Started off with some shoulder rubbing to break the ice. It quickly turned into a BBBJ which damn near had me. Excellent BBBJ not even a hint of teeth. The cover was on and CG before I knew it. I wanted some Missionary and she was all for it. Tiffany can and will take a good pounding and enjoys it.

Finished off with some more BBBJ and a HJ.

Treat her right and she'll definitely take care of you.[/QUOTE]Yes sir I actually believe the same thing is happening. Quite obvious.

[QUOTE=StubbornMule;6795244]I'm 95% sure Sevendayswolf is a shill. His account is relatively new, and he keeps posting glowing reviews for Blue Sky Spa. In particular, he posted two word-for-word identical reviews for two different providers:

On 1/4/24 he wrote:

"Tiffany is worth the time.

She was one of the great masseuses here. She's in 40's, sexy and cute. Tiffany is everything that is written about her and more. Sweet lady that's willing to do what it takes for your and her pleasure. Yes she enjoys it as well. Started off with some shoulder rubbing to break the ice. It quickly turned into a BBBJ which damn near had me. Excellent BBBJ not even a hint of teeth. The cover was on and CG before I knew it. I wanted some Missionary and she was all for it. Tiffany can and will take a good pounding and enjoys it.

Finished off with some more BBBJ and a HJ.

Treat her right and she'll definitely take care of you. ".

On 2/8/24 he wrote:

"Wendy is everything that is written about her and more. Sweet lady that's willing to do what it takes for your and her pleasure. Yes she enjoys it as well. Started off with some shoulder rubbing to break the ice. It quickly turned into a BBBJ which damn near had me. Excellent BBBJ not even a hint of teeth. The cover was on and CG before I knew it. I wanted some Missionary and she was all for it. Wendy can and will take a good pounding and enjoys it.

Finished off with some more BBBJ and a HJ.

Treat her right and she'll definitely take care of you. ".

Literally the same words, and more than half of his meager posts are about this one place. Also suspect that TexiMex/Cowboy5 are also shills (possible even the same person using different accounts).

Admins please address this. Can't stand shills / simps![/QUOTE]Yes, I agree with StubornMule. The massage forum is littered with shills! Every morning there's glowing reviews for Erma, Blue Sky Spa, Mesa Ridge Ct. , GU Studio, 201 and A to Z, usually from users with just a few posts. Look below at this glowing review of Mesa Ridge Ct. By LovelyL6969, perfect example!

I too suspect it's the same guy. He sometimes gets sloppy trying to keep his many, many handles straight. He'll comment on one of his shill posts with another shill handle, in an effort to try to deceive the public to believe there's more interest in these spa's then there really is. It's disgusting! Admin, please address.

[QUOTE=PeteTheGreat;6795679]Yes, I agree with StubornMule. The massage forum is littered with shills! Every morning there's glowing reviews for Erma, Blue Sky Spa, Mesa Ridge Ct. , GU Studio, 201 and A to Z, usually from users with just a few posts. Look below at this glowing review of Mesa Ridge Ct. By LovelyL6969, perfect example!

I too suspect it's the same guy. He sometimes gets sloppy trying to keep his many, many handles straight. He'll comment on one of his shill posts with another shill handle, in an effort to try to deceive the public to believe there's more interest in these spa's then there really is. It's disgusting! Admin, please address.[/QUOTE]I do write many reviews for the spas you mention, but that's simply because I visit the places that are most popular. I would hope that most on this forum don't consider me a shill, but there are places that I frequent purely because they are convenient, tend to have decent talent, and I feel safe entering these stores.

I agree with you when it comes to these shill accounts and it has bothered me for quite some time. I don't get why these store owners feel the need to litter these forums with lots of reviews when I've already written a good review for one of their girls. If you speak with the providers, they are often under this idea as well that more reviews is better for them as well. But this belief is actually quite stupid.

The only reason I started writing reviews is because I don't trust anything I read anymore. I at least will provide people with my description of a girl or the events that happened. I don't need to make anything up as there's no benefit for me to do so.

Maybe we should adopt some sort of approval process to write about spas, I dunno. Call me crazy, but maybe having guys who typically write about certain spas become the "trusted sources" for those spas isn't such a bad idea? I dunno, just thinking out loud. Maybe have a forum sticky post with a list of known trusted sources that people can ask to be put on to help forum members sift through the bullshit reviews.

There's a reason why shills persist. The business model works, until it doesn't. Someone is either a co-owner, owner, or is getting steep discounts. As soon as someone posts about a great experience, and has it backed up by another shill or by themselves using a different account, then that spa's business takes off. In similar fashion, faux reportd of STD infections or bad experiences will torpedo s spa. Weve seen rivals do just that. Keep in mind that the vast majority of local hobbyists contribute nothing, but will happily follow a lead offered here. Once you know how to spot a shill cluster, its kind of obvious. And ironically I will never darken the door of those spas.

[QUOTE=DudeNukem;6795766]I do write many reviews for the spas you mention, but that's simply because I visit the places that are most popular. I would hope that most on this forum don't consider me a shill, but there are places that I frequent purely because they are convenient, tend to have decent talent, and I feel safe entering these stores.

I agree with you when it comes to these shill accounts and it has bothered me for quite some time. I don't get why these store owners feel the need to litter these forums with lots of reviews when I've already written a good review for one of their girls. If you speak with the providers, they are often under this idea as well that more reviews is better for them as well. But this belief is actually quite stupid.

The only reason I started writing reviews is because I don't trust anything I read anymore. I at least will provide people with my description of a girl or the events that happened. I don't need to make anything up as there's no benefit for me to do so.

Maybe we should adopt some sort of approval process to write about spas, I dunno. Call me crazy, but maybe having guys who typically write about certain spas become the "trusted sources" for those spas isn't such a bad idea? I dunno, just thinking out loud. Maybe have a forum sticky post with a list of known trusted sources that people can ask to be put on to help forum members sift through the bullshit reviews.[/QUOTE]

I admit I'm not great at spotting shill posts because I don't visit the forum enough to catch the series, but I can spot what may be an over the top review or something that reads too perfect.

My big defense of shill BS is that I don't rush out to a spa just because it gets a great review. Especially if the review is glowing. I'm happy waiting till the rush dies down, and maybe see if there are more posts on the place.

There is also the problem of over advertising. The place becomes famous like VIP did, and suddenly everyone was posting about spontaneous fmf's without extra pay, and the place almost became the only place posted about for a while. Then the competition got jealous, and the shit started and now look, the famous VIP is gone.

One way to stop shills is to call out the BS. If you read a report and its glowing but you go and it's a let down. Post that your experience wasn't as suggested. Yes YMMV, but if they say it's full of young girls and you find only grannies. Well easy enough to call BS.

All in a day of mongering.

[QUOTE=RolfTorren;6796352]There's a reason why shills persist. The business model works, until it doesn't. Someone is either a co-owner, owner, or is getting steep discounts. As soon as someone posts about a great experience, and has it backed up by another shill or by themselves using a different account, then that spa's business takes off. In similar fashion, faux reportd of STD infections or bad experiences will torpedo s spa. Weve seen rivals do just that. Keep in mind that the vast majority of local hobbyists contribute nothing, but will happily follow a lead offered here. Once you know how to spot a shill cluster, its kind of obvious. And ironically I will never darken the door of those spas.[/QUOTE]