Grand Rapids Pugilistic Society

[QUOTE=JMaul;5630405]Serenity lost me or never had me as a customer forever for that reason. I don't need coffee man lurking in the shadows when I visit a therapist. I lose trust in a parlor when they give an untrustworthy person such freedom to do as he pleases.

It's smoke and mirrors there. Notice how almost no one provides any details of that place?

Someone said the place is busy. I haven't seen a review posted in 3 months, maybe more in the massage thread.

That's a lot of clients then staying mum on what's happening.

More red flags than Russian holiday event with that place IMO.[/QUOTE]I can honestly say I haven't been there at all ever since that tool said shit about bringing chocolate and shit, and him stopping having coffee fuk that, not counting that douche promoting a streetwalker he got in there and started charging 180 $ when she was strolling Leonard before for 30 $ car dates, he is a lying fuk and these new people think they are getting on ground floor of something good & Him and his massage table can travel up his ass.

[QUOTE=DjBiker;5630888]I can honestly say I haven't been there at all ever since that tool said shit about bringing chocolate and shit, and him stopping having coffee fuk that, not counting that douche promoting a streetwalker he got in there and started charging 180 $ when she was strolling Leonard before for 30 $ car dates, he is a lying fuk and these new people think they are getting on ground floor of something good & Him and his massage table can travel up his ass.[/QUOTE]


(Yawn) You've been so truthful in the past. The entire squad, for that matter. It is assumed everything you guys post is utter, unsubstantiated, complete bullshit. It's actually entertaining, because no one buys it and you just further everyone's' opinions of you. So by all means, keep it up, Mr. Congeniality!

Cheers!

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5631608](Yawn) You've been so truthful in the past. The entire squad, for that matter. It is assumed everything you guys post is utter, unsubstantiated, complete bullshit. It's actually entertaining, because no one buys it and you just further everyone's' opinions of you. So by all means, keep it up, Mr. Congeniality!

Cheers![/QUOTE]Now that hilarious coming from a member from 9-20, be honest stupid, you comment nonsense so you could get your senior status to beg this tool for his meth passwords, your such a fuking idiot your worse than the other 5, and if just if your going to try to insult someone be original don't copy what others have tried & fucking moron this guy.

[QUOTE=Gene2;5626855]Hey man. I appreciate your posts and reviews. However, there are other regions with passwords or similar protections in place. In Orlando they call it the "gatekeeper" for the UTR providers who really wish to remain that way. It took me a while to be granted access to a highly regarded massage provider who is Fantastic. She is a fitness / swimsuit model who also provides massage services with a level of edging that I've never had replicated here, and I've had some great experiences with Brit and her girls.

My point is that each posting region takes on its own personality. And like it or not, we have a region where Benz is a long standing member who plays by the rules. He also provides good reviews and brings new talent on board. We also have a region with a couple of members who never bring new talent, never provide enlightening reviews, and miss the purpose of the board. One only posts inarticulately to slam Benz, and the other never reviews and only posts to stir drama among the members, like a woman would do. And that's who you chose to agree with on this post. Feel free to read his post history. You will find only chick-like drama, never a review. He even tried to reaching out to another member to encourage that dude to continue a beef with me, a beef we had resolved like men. I called Backfire out for this. And Benz did too, which explains his butt hurt against Benz.

So I respect your right to a different opinion than mine, I just urge you not to place yourself in the same camp as the non-reviewer members here who add nothing to the forum, because you are different than they are. You contribute and are valued.

I'm out.[/QUOTE]Gene. Your example of the gatekeeper in Florida might be a good example of why a system like that can work. I'll admit when I'm wrong, but I also think you're comparing apples to oranges.

This gatekeeper provided access to highly reputable and highly regarded providers. That's awesome. That's not what's going on in GR with the FRENZ. But it seems like a waste of time to argue a point to people who've made up their minds already isn't it?

I guess I don't agree with an assessment that I've taken sides or taken up camp with an individual. I don't know any of you and don't care to. We're not friends, at best we are friendly and share info in a positive way. So I can't say I've sided with Biker or Blackfire. If their opinions seem to reflect my own, draw your own conclusions. Some old Asian dude once said "the enemy of my enemy is my friend. " But we're not friends.

I think Benz is king of specific things in this board. King douchiest, creepiest and most questionable individual that places everyone at risk, mongers and providers alike. I've never met him, so it's all he said she said bullshit anyway.

But I'd rather hear himself defend, deflect and divide rather than me make accusations. So I have a few questions for Benz:

- why aren't you posting daily messages about Serenity and their awesome coffee beans?

- why did you continue to promote Ashley Wynter when review after review came back about what a complete waste of money she was?

- why did you promote Curly sue left and right when there were clear issues with her reliability and service / preparedness.

- why was Brook Billions constantly advertised by you when she was a drugged out shell of her old self in the middle of a whorehouse drug bust?

- why is everyone you bring onto the scene have issues, between reliability, a place to stay, boyfriends, etc? I'd provide more examples from your myriad of posts but sadly you've blocked me. I'm sure they were all winners. But I'd argue they could have been better if it you weren't involved. Maybe they never would have gotten into escorting but maybe that would've saved them some pain and mongers some money in the process.

Just a thought, since it sounds like SBJ became a decent provider once, why does she still rely on you? You'll love this, I almost met her once. She didn't give a shit about not having a password, money talks. But after I read reviews on her I realized that anyone who associates with you isn't going to see money from me, so I told her that. You'd be surprised to hear what she said, but I could be making it all up, right? Right?

I guess that's where I differ. Your gatekeeper in Florida unlocked access to talent. What "talent" is Benz bringing you all? Is this a whole playing risky is rewarding fetish or something?

There's better ways to access talent. And truth be told there are limitations to what is provided. Jennifer lovin won't see me because I won't give her a copy of my driver license and W-2. Miss Hunter requires photo verification or references. It's a bit funny to me that people complain about one option and don't use the other.

Around here you don't need TER or other paid sites to get access. Reputable references seem to be the cleanest, you're all lying to yourselves if you thought the best providers in the area aren't conversing with each other to some degree.

So Gene nothing against you personally. I don't take sides though, so my intent is not to defend those who posts you don't like or don't see value in. I do think this is all just a game, and for certain individuals it's a fun one. And I can't help but chuckle at some of the posts here.

That's what this board is for anyway.

[QUOTE=JMaul;5632561]I guess I don't agree with an assessment that I've taken sides or taken up camp with an individual. I don't know any of you and don't care to. We're not friends, at best we are friendly and share info in a positive way. So I can't say I've sided with Biker or Blackfire. If their opinions seem to reflect my own, draw your own conclusions.

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Just a thought, since it sounds like SBJ became a decent provider once, why does she still rely on you? You'll love this, I almost met her once. She didn't give a shit about not having a password, money talks. But after I read reviews on her I realized that anyone who associates with you isn't going to see money from me, so I told her that. You'd be surprised to hear what she said, but I could be making it all up, right? Right?

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And I can't help but chuckle at some of the posts here.

That's what this board is for anyway.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't want to be considered part of some hateful squad whose loudest members are often not the most articulate, but I also don't want to be friends with a group of people who worship and defend their leader so aggressively. Like JMaul, I've heard from a few women who don't give a shit about the password system but go along with it because they believe it's an avenue for obtaining new clients. I'm curious how they would react if they found out that some people actively avoid seeing a provider who uses the word "Frenz" in her ad. I don't want to be a part of any club. Even the guidelines I've accepted to be a member of this forum are testing the limits of my tolerance for protocol. Everyone should continue to do what they feel is safe, but I think it's a good thing that this conversation is taking place.

I have no horse in this race, but I've been entertained by the topic. I'm only in disagreement with those who say you guys should drop it. I'd follow this thread for months.

[QUOTE=DjBiker;5631881]Now that hilarious coming from a member from 9-20, be honest stupid, you comment nonsense so you could get your senior status to beg this tool for his meth passwords, your such a fuking idiot your worse than the other 5, and if just if your going to try to insult someone be original don't copy what others have tried & fucking moron this guy.[/QUOTE]LuLz! He took the bait.

[QUOTE=JMaul;5632561]Gene. Your example of the gatekeeper in Florida might be a good example of why a system like that can work. I'll admit when I'm wrong, but I also think you're comparing apples to oranges.

This gatekeeper provided access to highly reputable and highly regarded providers. That's awesome. That's not what's going on in GR with the FRENZ. But it seems like a waste of time to argue a point to people who've made up their minds already isn't it?

I guess I don't agree with an assessment that I've taken sides or taken up camp with an individual. I don't know any of you and don't care to. We're not friends, at best we are friendly and share info in a positive way. So I can't say I've sided with Biker or Blackfire. If their opinions seem to reflect my own, draw your own conclusions. Some old Asian dude once said "the enemy of my enemy is my friend. " But we're not friends.

I think Benz is king of specific things in this board. King douchiest, creepiest and most questionable individual that places everyone at risk, mongers and providers alike. I've never met him, so it's all he said she said bullshit anyway.

But I'd rather hear himself defend, deflect and divide rather than me make accusations. So I have a few questions for Benz:

- why aren't you posting daily messages about Serenity and their awesome coffee beans?

- why did you continue to promote Ashley Wynter when review after review came back about what a complete waste of money she was?

- why did you promote Curly sue left and right when there were clear issues with her reliability and service / preparedness.

- why was Brook Billions constantly advertised by you when she was a drugged out shell of her old self in the middle of a whorehouse drug bust?

- why is everyone you bring onto the scene have issues, between reliability, a place to stay, boyfriends, etc? I'd provide more examples from your myriad of posts but sadly you've blocked me. I'm sure they were all winners. But I'd argue they could have been better if it you weren't involved. Maybe they never would have gotten into escorting but maybe that would've saved them some pain and mongers some money in the process.

Just a thought, since it sounds like SBJ became a decent provider once, why does she still rely on you? You'll love this, I almost met her once. She didn't give a shit about not having a password, money talks. But after I read reviews on her I realized that anyone who associates with you isn't going to see money from me, so I told her that. You'd be surprised to hear what she said, but I could be making it all up, right? Right?

I guess that's where I differ. Your gatekeeper in Florida unlocked access to talent. What "talent" is Benz bringing you all? Is this a whole playing risky is rewarding fetish or something?

There's better ways to access talent. And truth be told there are limitations to what is provided. Jennifer lovin won't see me because I won't give her a copy of my driver license and W-2. Miss Hunter requires photo verification or references. It's a bit funny to me that people complain about one option and don't use the other.

Around here you don't need TER or other paid sites to get access. Reputable references seem to be the cleanest, you're all lying to yourselves if you thought the best providers in the area aren't conversing with each other to some degree.

So Gene nothing against you personally. I don't take sides though, so my intent is not to defend those who posts you don't like or don't see value in. I do think this is all just a game, and for certain individuals it's a fun one. And I can't help but chuckle at some of the posts here.

That's what this board is for anyway.[/QUOTE]You b1tch about the girls that Benz has brought to the team here, but I looked through your posts and although you've reviewed many girls, I don't see where you've personally brought any talent to the board.

How about you try to do that and let's see how well you are at it before throwing rocks in glass houses? You seem to think it's possible to bring perfect girls who would have no flaws, always on time, blah blah blah. Welcome to the real world. All girls in this business have more flaws than a mall jewelry store diamond on a half-off sale. Unless you want to get a true GFE for over $1 k / hr from a big city that's how it will always be. Lighten up, Francis. When I see you provide no-fault talent to the board I'll give your b1 tching some thought. Until then, you're just a complainer and no one is forcing you to try anyone Benz or anyone else brings to the board. I'm just grateful for those who do.

Thanks for the reviews you do provide.

[QUOTE=JMaul;5632561]Gene. Your example of the gatekeeper in Florida might be a good example of why a system like that can work. I'll admit when I'm wrong, but I also think you're comparing apples to oranges.

This gatekeeper provided access to highly reputable and highly regarded providers. That's awesome. That's not what's going on in GR with the FRENZ. But it seems like a waste of time to argue a point to people who've made up their minds already isn't it?

I guess I don't agree with an assessment that I've taken sides or taken up camp with an individual. I don't know any of you and don't care to. We're not friends, at best we are friendly and share info in a positive way. So I can't say I've sided with Biker or Blackfire. If their opinions seem to reflect my own, draw your own conclusions. Some old Asian dude once said "the enemy of my enemy is my friend. " But we're not friends.

I think Benz is king of specific things in this board. King douchiest, creepiest and most questionable individual that places everyone at risk, mongers and providers alike. I've never met him, so it's all he said she said bullshit anyway.

But I'd rather hear himself defend, deflect and divide rather than me make accusations. So I have a few questions for Benz:

- why aren't you posting daily messages about Serenity and their awesome coffee beans?

- why did you continue to promote Ashley Wynter when review after review came back about what a complete waste of money she was?

- why did you promote Curly sue left and right when there were clear issues with her reliability and service / preparedness.

- why was Brook Billions constantly advertised by you when she was a drugged out shell of her old self in the middle of a whorehouse drug bust?

- why is everyone you bring onto the scene have issues, between reliability, a place to stay, boyfriends, etc? I'd provide more examples from your myriad of posts but sadly you've blocked me. I'm sure they were all winners. But I'd argue they could have been better if it you weren't involved. Maybe they never would have gotten into escorting but maybe that would've saved them some pain and mongers some money in the process.

Just a thought, since it sounds like SBJ became a decent provider once, why does she still rely on you? You'll love this, I almost met her once. She didn't give a shit about not having a password, money talks. But after I read reviews on her I realized that anyone who associates with you isn't going to see money from me, so I told her that. You'd be surprised to hear what she said, but I could be making it all up, right? Right?

I guess that's where I differ. Your gatekeeper in Florida unlocked access to talent. What "talent" is Benz bringing you all? Is this a whole playing risky is rewarding fetish or something?

There's better ways to access talent. And truth be told there are limitations to what is provided. Jennifer lovin won't see me because I won't give her a copy of my driver license and W-2. Miss Hunter requires photo verification or references. It's a bit funny to me that people complain about one option and don't use the other.

Around here you don't need TER or other paid sites to get access. Reputable references seem to be the cleanest, you're all lying to yourselves if you thought the best providers in the area aren't conversing with each other to some degree.

So Gene nothing against you personally. I don't take sides though, so my intent is not to defend those who posts you don't like or don't see value in. I do think this is all just a game, and for certain individuals it's a fun one. And I can't help but chuckle at some of the posts here.

That's what this board is for anyway.[/QUOTE]Not going to jump in on the password or taking sides issues, but want to point out that when I tried to see miss hunter there was no option for provider references. It was only pic option and she was not willing to send a face pic in return. I offered giving her my screen name on here as well as a few providers I have seen as references and it was a no go. I honestly wasn't that much against the photo request even though I probably should have been. It was the refusal to send one in return that rubbed me wrong. Don't ask me to show you my hand and lose my privacy if you aren't willing to in return. I know some seemed to think it was my way of taking sides in this fight but my posts were only a complaint about miss hunter's lop sided rules and just happened to coincide with when she jumped into this whole debacle we have going here.

[QUOTE=JMaul;5632561]Gene. Your example of the gatekeeper in Florida might be a good example of why a system like that can work. I'll admit when I'm wrong, but I also think you're comparing apples to oranges.

This gatekeeper provided access to highly reputable and highly regarded providers. That's awesome. That's not what's going on in GR with the FRENZ. But it seems like a waste of time to argue a point to people who've made up their minds already isn't it?

I guess I don't agree with an assessment that I've taken sides or taken up camp with an individual. I don't know any of you and don't care to. We're not friends, at best we are friendly and share info in a positive way. So I can't say I've sided with Biker or Blackfire. If their opinions seem to reflect my own, draw your own conclusions. Some old Asian dude once said "the enemy of my enemy is my friend. " But we're not friends.

I think Benz is king of specific things in this board. King douchiest, creepiest and most questionable individual that places everyone at risk, mongers and providers alike. I've never met him, so it's all he said she said bullshit anyway.

But I'd rather hear himself defend, deflect and divide rather than me make accusations. So I have a few questions for Benz:

- why aren't you posting daily messages about Serenity and their awesome coffee beans?

- why did you continue to promote Ashley Wynter when review after review came back about what a complete waste of money she was?

- why did you promote Curly sue left and right when there were clear issues with her reliability and service / preparedness.

- why was Brook Billions constantly advertised by you when she was a drugged out shell of her old self in the middle of a whorehouse drug bust?

- why is everyone you bring onto the scene have issues, between reliability, a place to stay, boyfriends, etc? I'd provide more examples from your myriad of posts but sadly you've blocked me. I'm sure they were all winners. But I'd argue they could have been better if it you weren't involved. Maybe they never would have gotten into escorting but maybe that would've saved them some pain and mongers some money in the process.

Just a thought, since it sounds like SBJ became a decent provider once, why does she still rely on you? You'll love this, I almost met her once. She didn't give a shit about not having a password, money talks. But after I read reviews on her I realized that anyone who associates with you isn't going to see money from me, so I told her that. You'd be surprised to hear what she said, but I could be making it all up, right? Right?

I guess that's where I differ. Your gatekeeper in Florida unlocked access to talent. What "talent" is Benz bringing you all? Is this a whole playing risky is rewarding fetish or something?

There's better ways to access talent. And truth be told there are limitations to what is provided. Jennifer lovin won't see me because I won't give her a copy of my driver license and W-2. Miss Hunter requires photo verification or references. It's a bit funny to me that people complain about one option and don't use the other.

Around here you don't need TER or other paid sites to get access. Reputable references seem to be the cleanest, you're all lying to yourselves if you thought the best providers in the area aren't conversing with each other to some degree.

So Gene nothing against you personally. I don't take sides though, so my intent is not to defend those who posts you don't like or don't see value in. I do think this is all just a game, and for certain individuals it's a fun one. And I can't help but chuckle at some of the posts here.

That's what this board is for anyway.[/QUOTE]Your examples are spot on, problem is that douche will NEVER address the questions but like you I don't know anyone and don't want to bottom line he will have his 5-7 dipshits to answer for him like the idiot that just did, only one that would be interesting to hear from is the owner of the serenity to find out truth about his chocolate covered fingers getting the fuking boot.

Must of left sweetland chocolate bark finger prints lmao anyway been fun and fuk benz LOL.

[QUOTE=VetteMan6981;5633411]Not going to jump in on the password or taking sides issues, but want to point out that when I tried to see miss hunter there was no option for provider references. It was only pic option and she was not willing to send a face pic in return. I offered giving her my screen name on here as well as a few providers I have seen as references and it was a no go. I honestly wasn't that much against the photo request even though I probably should have been. It was the refusal to send one in return that rubbed me wrong. Don't ask me to show you my hand and lose my privacy if you aren't willing to in return. I know some seemed to think it was my way of taking sides in this fight but my posts were only a complaint about miss hunter's lop sided rules and just happened to coincide with when she jumped into this whole debacle we have going here.[/QUOTE]It clearly states on Tryst my screening process. You were seeking a same day appt if I remember correctly. Which would require a picture. I have not and never will send a face picture. I have a stalker that is still trying to access me, and I take certain precautions. And Benz even testified to my screening procedures. Look at his past advertisements for me. I will accept a reputable provider's reference but know that will take time for me to reach out to them to verify. So don't expect a same day appt.

I have been in this business for 15 years and I have a long standing reputation as a reliable and true to herself provider. I am sorry that things didn't work out with you and I can tell that you are clearly very bothered by the fact you couldn't pass my screening. I really don't like sour tasting things in my mouth so I am kinda glad you didn't.

Happy Hunting! Xox.

Hunter.

I see any and all attempts from a provider to gain personal information on a client as an opportunity to extort.

If you use or give them your real phone number any provider can use Reverse Look Up to find your name.
If you send a picture to a provider, she can Google the picture just like we do all the time to find more information about the provider.

If your picture matches anything on FB, Twitter, LinkedIn or anywhere else you are fucked.

If you're going to a providers home, she could easily have cameras set up to set you up for extortion.
Getting to see her through a referral may not be a good idea either.
Don't ever give a provider personal information.
Many of our members have been extorted by providers they thought they new well. The fact is, they new them too well.

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5633259]You b1tch about the girls that Benz has brought to the team here, but I looked through your posts and although you've reviewed many girls, I don't see where you've personally brought any talent to the board.

How about you try to do that and let's see how well you are at it before throwing rocks in glass houses? You seem to think it's possible to bring perfect girls who would have no flaws, always on time, blah blah blah. Welcome to the real world. All girls in this business have more flaws than a mall jewelry store diamond on a half-off sale. Unless you want to get a true GFE for over $1 k / hr from a big city that's how it will always be. Lighten up, Francis. When I see you provide no-fault talent to the board I'll give your b1 tching some thought. Until then, you're just a complainer and no one is forcing you to try anyone Benz or anyone else brings to the board. I'm just grateful for those who do.

Thanks for the reviews you do provide.[/QUOTE]Hey HF appreciate the feedback. To each their own right?

Last I checked this board is to provide information to find women who provide services. I didn't know I was required to bring my own hottie to the hobby, although if I did I definitely wouldn't be handling her cummings and goings. There have been a few times where I mentioned to a woman that she should consider getting a USA handle to help her screen, or at least see who is reviewing.

Throwing rocks in glass houses though, I'm not sure I'm seeing it. My complaints are very targeted. I think passwords are dumb, but as Gene and others pointed out there may be areas where it works. My focus is solely on the free service FRENZ, not the members, but the handler / organizer. If his manipulation is a glass house. Well I hope it shatters.

I'm throwing stones so people can wake up and smell the coffee, but not the one highly boasted at Serenity. You see, this board is to provide information on women. I didn't want to sit idle while decent providers are being called out as bad ones and shitty ones get all the false fame that leads to poor experiences.

I don't think every provider is a piece of hot garbage. There's many reliable and reputable ones. Oddly enough no one endorsed within the FRENZ club is both of those. Please enlighten me if I'm wrong.

Maybe it's just me. I'm extremely thankful for the posts on these boards, I read them for probably 6 Months before finally testing the waters. I just don't want people who were like me entering the hobby to get a bad taste when they are sucking up to a senior member here who brings what I would consider poor and unreliable talent to the area, just so he can get a free BJ and the endorsement.

[QUOTE=MissHunter;5634352]It clearly states on Tryst my screening process. You were seeking a same day appt if I remember correctly. Which would require a picture. I have not and never will send a face picture. I have a stalker that is still trying to access me, and I take certain precautions. And Benz even testified to my screening procedures. Look at his past advertisements for me. I will accept a reputable provider's reference but know that will take time for me to reach out to them to verify. So don't expect a same day appt.

I have been in this business for 15 years and I have a long standing reputation as a reliable and true to herself provider. I am sorry that things didn't work out with you and I can tell that you are clearly very bothered by the fact you couldn't pass my screening. I really don't like sour tasting things in my mouth so I am kinda glad you didn't.

Happy Hunting! Xox.

Hunter.[/QUOTE]Well had you actually bothered to explain all that maybe there wouldn't have been a problem or any sour grapes. Your loss, not mine, as I just gave my money to a provider who was more than happy to see me. Personally, I am kind of glad it didn't work out as well. If I wanted to see someone who throws snarky attitude and thinks they are the greatest thing in the world, I would just go visit my ex and save some money. Never had any issues with any provider I have met in person and have several that will see me on a moments notice. You just served to remind me why I like my regular providers so much and why it isn't usually worth the hassle to try someone new.

Happy hunting to you as well.

[QUOTE=JMaul;5634908]Hey HF appreciate the feedback. To each their own right?

Maybe it's just me. I'm extremely thankful for the posts on these boards, I read them for probably 6 Months before finally testing the waters. I just don't want people who were like me entering the hobby to get a bad taste when they are sucking up to a senior member here who brings what I would consider poor and unreliable talent to the area, just so he can get a free BJ and the endorsement.[/QUOTE]Well, it's not just you, there are a few of you, equally jealous and preoccupied with a false narrative. Why should you care if someone gets a free BJ for helping a girl out? (Which wasn't happening with any of the girls he sent my way, BTW) I've seen a few girls now that Benz has sent my way when I was a newbie to GR. Not one of them had a bad thing to say about him. NOT ONE. And I was pretty satisfied with their service as well, and would repeat usually. Not always. But the guy is clear to point out any flaws that HE has seen, full disclaimer. So people shouldn't go into any encounter not well-informed on what to expect as far as he knows. What else can a guy do?! He doesn't have to do anything but he does. So it's a fucking win-win for everyone involved, so what the hell do you care?! I've helped a couple girls out since I've been in GR and almost exclusively on this site. I'd love a free BJ! Who wouldn't?! Hope it happens some day. THIS is what the rest of us see about you and the squad b1tching about Benz. It's nothing but jealous, vindictive banter, and it goes where it belongs. In the ignore pile. Like I said, when you provide any form of talent for others to try out, then you got room to complain about the talent he has brought. You've admitted yourself that you haven't. So your b1tching has zero merit, dude. Let's get back on the same team, eh? This is futile and you aren't changing anyone's' minds. Certainly not mine, about Benz, but sure are shaping up opinions about y'all. Let's all help each other out on the girls we do get to see, and which ones we recommend or recommend avoid and stop attacking each other.

Thanks for your reviews you do provide.

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5635711]I've seen a few girls now that Benz has sent my way when I was a newbie to GR. Not one of them had a bad thing to say about him. NOT ONE.[/QUOTE]Presumably a girl wouldn't talk trash about a guy to someone who seems to have respect for him.

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5635711]Well, it's not just you, there are a few of you, equally jealous and preoccupied with a false narrative. Why should you care if someone gets a free BJ for helping a girl out? (Which wasn't happening with any of the girls he sent my way, BTW) I've seen a few girls now that Benz has sent my way when I was a newbie to GR. Not one of them had a bad thing to say about him. NOT ONE. And I was pretty satisfied with their service as well, and would repeat usually. Not always. But the guy is clear to point out any flaws that HE has seen, full disclaimer. So people shouldn't go into any encounter not well-informed on what to expect as far as he knows. What else can a guy do?! He doesn't have to do anything but he does. So it's a fucking win-win for everyone involved, so what the hell do you care?! I've helped a couple girls out since I've been in GR and almost exclusively on this site. I'd love a free BJ! Who wouldn't?! Hope it happens some day. THIS is what the rest of us see about you and the squad b1tching about Benz. It's nothing but jealous, vindictive banter, and it goes where it belongs. In the ignore pile. Like I said, when you provide any form of talent for others to try out, then you got room to complain about the talent he has brought. You've admitted yourself that you haven't. So your b1tching has zero merit, dude. Let's get back on the same team, eh? This is futile and you aren't changing anyone's' minds. Certainly not mine, about Benz, but sure are shaping up opinions about y'all. Let's all help each other out on the girls we do get to see, and which ones we recommend or recommend avoid and stop attacking each other.

Thanks for your reviews you do provide.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but I'm not jealous of anyone on this board, WTF. You want jealous ask the leader of the FRENZ club.

Funny how he was such an avid endorser of Miss Hunter before she came back onto the scene. Why not now? What happens between them is none of my business so I'll wager a guess: he can't manipulate her and is jealous like a little whiny kid who can't get the most popular toy for Christmas.

True story: when Benz started endorsing Hunter I contacted her and said I would stop visiting. I'm interested in my engagements being between myself and a provider, not a moderator. So we stopped, and after she told me she was 100% done with him I said I was interested again. Maybe you'll find other providers to be more truthful when they realize they can do better without a handler.

Sorry but there's no team I'm on. I work solo, maybe that point is hard to comprehend. I visit providers and review them. I help them where I can. I ask for nothing other than they stay safe. The only "team" on this forum is the FRENZ club. No thanks.

Zero merit? The truth is hard to see through rose colored lenses. Believe what you want.

I agree 100% we should be helping people find decent and reputable providers. Spot on! Call me old fashioned but my hookups don't need a password or handler to happen.

Name a reliable provider Benz has given to the boards and I'll admit where I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5635711]Well, it's not just you, there are a few of you, equally jealous and preoccupied with a false narrative. Why should you care if someone gets a free BJ for helping a girl out? (Which wasn't happening with any of the girls he sent my way, BTW) I've seen a few girls now that Benz has sent my way when I was a newbie to GR. Not one of them had a bad thing to say about him. NOT ONE. And I was pretty satisfied with their service as well, and would repeat usually. Not always. But the guy is clear to point out any flaws that HE has seen, full disclaimer. So people shouldn't go into any encounter not well-informed on what to expect as far as he knows. What else can a guy do?! He doesn't have to do anything but he does. So it's a fucking win-win for everyone involved, so what the hell do you care?! I've helped a couple girls out since I've been in GR and almost exclusively on this site. I'd love a free BJ! Who wouldn't?! Hope it happens some day. THIS is what the rest of us see about you and the squad b1tching about Benz. It's nothing but jealous, vindictive banter, and it goes where it belongs. In the ignore pile. Like I said, when you provide any form of talent for others to try out, then you got room to complain about the talent he has brought. You've admitted yourself that you haven't. So your b1tching has zero merit, dude. Let's get back on the same team, eh? This is futile and you aren't changing anyone's' minds. Certainly not mine, about Benz, but sure are shaping up opinions about y'all. Let's all help each other out on the girls we do get to see, and which ones we recommend or recommend avoid and stop attacking each other.

Thanks for your reviews you do provide.[/QUOTE]Time and time again YOU don't FUKING GET IT, do you now think your going to get status for answering for that prick? He has been asked to answer for his self then a tool like you pipes up for him but seeing how you think "his" girls are top notch it proves what you settle for lmao, you dum fuk, ask him urself to address the questions brought here, then just then you can figuring it out, so sit back on the bench and stfu till your hero addresses the issue.

[QUOTE=JMaul;5636012]

Sorry but there's no team I'm on. I work solo, maybe that point is hard to comprehend.[/QUOTE]No you don't. You just stated that you use the board. If you flew solo you wouldn't. And it's funny, because you most certainly are jealous, and admittedly vindictive toward him. That makes anything you say moot, because you're biased. You go to the ignore pile. .

[QUOTE=DjBiker;5636285]Time and time again YOU don't FUKING GET IT, do you now think your going to get status for answering for that prick? He has been asked to answer for his self then a tool like you pipes up for him but seeing how you think "his" girls are top notch it proves what you settle for lmao, you dum fuk, ask him urself to address the questions brought here, then just then you can figuring it out, so sit back on the bench and stfu till your hero addresses the issue.[/QUOTE]Status? I don't seek status. What the hell is that? LOL. Your "status" and $1.50 wouldn't buy a cup of coffee, junior. Also, I never said anyone was "top notch". But I certainly did enjoy myself with a few of those girls. Whereas... you have provided... jack shit to anyone, so again, no room to talk about anything. You're just a jackass.

No, that's what you squad members do. Your maturity is the lowest on the board. Well, you and the guy that we all think is you but you deny is you. .

Going to have to try harder than that. You and your squad suck and don't contribute to shit. Go find another board. You're useless here and no one wants to deal with you. And fuck you, I'll poke you anytime I want. You go on tilt with the smallest thing and I love exposing your 10 year old attitude, it's hilarious and exposes you for the jerk and zero contributor you are. ;-) Lulz

And I'm not championing for Benz. He doesn't need my help. I just can't help myself from poking the dumb guy on the playground over and over and watching you squeal. Squeal, little piggy. Get all upset, now!

[QUOTE=JMaul;5636012]

Name a reliable provider Benz has given to the boards and I'll admit where I'm wrong.[/QUOTE]You first, JMaul. Who have you brought to the board? I'll wait.

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5636629]Status? I don't seek status. What the hell is that? LOL. Your "status" and $1.50 wouldn't buy a cup of coffee, junior. Also, I never said anyone was "top notch". But I certainly did enjoy myself with a few of those girls. Whereas... you have provided... jack shit to anyone, so again, no room to talk about anything. You're just a jackass.

No, that's what you squad members do. Your maturity is the lowest on the board. Well, you and the guy that we all think is you but you deny is you. .

Going to have to try harder than that. You and your squad suck and don't contribute to shit. Go find another board. You're useless here and no one wants to deal with you. And fuck you, I'll poke you anytime I want. You go on tilt with the smallest thing and I love exposing your 10 year old attitude, it's hilarious and exposes you for the jerk and zero contributor you are. ;-) Lulz

And I'm not championing for Benz. He doesn't need my help. I just can't help myself from poking the dumb guy on the playground over and over and watching you squeal. Squeal, little piggy. Get all upset, now![/QUOTE]Listen oh great douche, you sure love to throw the "I" "We" "us" out there then have the tiniest of balls to us the term ""squad" and you still haven't got the concept of letting your hero answer have you, dum asf, now I see why you like that tool, you like giving him your money to see his streetwalkers and over pay so you can be part of something the loner with a boner found a cause, defend a hero, lmao, you took over as the stupidest fuk even over the part time snot nose, who will pipe in when his fat ass ole lady goes on a burger king run.

Sooooo, like I said "stupid sit on the bench and STFU your ignorance is appalling.

[QUOTE=DjBiker;5636285]Time and time again YOU don't FUKING GET IT, do you now think your going to get status for answering for that prick? He has been asked to answer for his self then a tool like you pipes up for him but seeing how you think "his" girls are top notch it proves what you settle for lmao, you dum fuk, ask him urself to address the questions brought here, then just then you can figuring it out, so sit back on the bench and stfu till your hero addresses the issue.[/QUOTE]I agree with DJ Biker. Not on every post, but certainly this one.

Questions have been asked of him and he's silent. He will obviously respond to deflect the real questions being asked.

It's funny how many of you defend him. Jesus. My opinion is the boards would be better if he wasn't on it, and the providers in the area would be better for hobbyists in general if he didn't play a role in handling whomever he brings to the scene.

Name a single reputable, reliable provider King Benz of Douche County has brought to the boards.

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5636631]You first, JMaul. Who have you brought to the board? I'll wait.[/QUOTE]I already told you I haven't brought anyone to the scene. They are not a possession of mine nor do I have a fetish to find women in a tough spot so I can negotiating a free BJ.

If I see a provider and they are looking for more clientele, I give them a few tips, write a review and give some words of caution. Every woman in this hobby has a different perspective on how they approach the hobby.

Read my reviews, I've done a few TOFTT and reported. I wouldn't consider that bringing some in to the hobby, but it's bringing awareness to the provider.

I just happen to disagree with the FRENZ approach. "Need some senior dudes to break her in to the hobby softy, password needed. " If you can't see through that then I'm sorry.

I asked a question, I'm waiting for an answer.

If you think this is because I'm jealous of something or someone, I'm afraid you're mistaken. My goal is to review providers and lead decent hobbyists to great encounters. Why would I be jealous of some club that I have been vehemently opposed to from the start? That club can FUCK OFF. At worst you're wrecking it for other people who think someone they'll meet is something reliable or reputable. At best you've identified the lower rung of providers in the area, the good ones don't need FRENZ. So your special club makes it easier for guys like me to spend my money and time more wisely.

[QUOTE=DjBiker;5636730]Listen oh great douche, you sure love to throw the "I" "We" "us" out there then have the tiniest of balls to us the term ""squad" and you still haven't got the concept of letting your hero answer have you, dum asf, now I see why you like that tool, you like giving him your money to see his streetwalkers and over pay so you can be part of something the loner with a boner found a cause, defend a hero, lmao, you took over as the stupidest fuk even over the part time snot nose, who will pipe in when his fat ass ole lady goes on a burger king run.

Sooooo, like I said "stupid sit on the bench and STFU your ignorance is appalling.[/QUOTE]LOL.

It's too easy.

No one is sittin' on the bench except you, my immature little ball of putty.

Sticks & stones, junior. Keep it up. Squeeeeeeaaaaaal!

"He has been asked to answer for his self".

I don't answer to any C. N. C. J.

Noticed this new request for us to be civil to each other.
Please do not post Argumentative Comments directed towards other forum members or the forum membership in general
Was someone offended by their new title?
Their comments aren't worth reading and have been entertaining. I've been amused.
Calling people out? Are you still in highschool? I graduated and haven't heard this childish behavior in a long time.
The earth is big enough for all of us.
Grow up

Benz1.

[QUOTE=Benz1;5637344]"He has been asked to answer for his self".

I don't answer to any C. N. C. J.

Noticed this new request for us to be civil to each other.
Please do not post Argumentative Comments directed towards other forum members or the forum membership in general
Was someone offended by their new title?
Their comments aren't worth reading and have been entertaining. I've been amused.
Calling people out? Are you still in highschool? I graduated and haven't heard this childish behavior in a long time.
The earth is big enough for all of us.
Grow up

Benz1.[/QUOTE]Why did they kick you out of serenity? Short honest version please and thank you.

As expected, Benz would like to divert your attention away from real questions being asked and instead request civility on a forum that was created precisely for the opposite reasons.

And just before that called out people for being circle jerk ninjas.

Good form Peter, good form (this is not name calling, this is a reference to the movie Hook LOL, except I'm being sarcastic AF).

I'm 100% in favor of civility and spreading kindness in a world that desperately needs it. But you sir are a douchy wolf in sheep's clothing preying on women. You want civil, earn it.

On a light-hearted note I've heard that Miss Hunter is getting a new massage table. Maybe one of her clients would be willing to drop her old one on the corner of Wealthy and Division, that's where future women for FRENZ is scouted right? Maybe you didn't care about the table but in a now deleted post you seemed attached to it.

I will end with something of a truce though. I'm a firm believer that people can change, and that includes you. I doubt you'll change what you do in the hobby since it appears to be your Schtick, but maybe you can. You back off from bugging women that want nothing to do with you and I'll stop firing truth arrows out of my quiver. Maybe consider answering a question or two occasionally without placing me in some made up squad too. We all know the only squad on this board is FRENZ and what it means to be part of that club.

[QUOTE=JMaul;5638738]As expected, Benz would like to divert your attention away from real questions being asked and instead request civility on a forum that was created precisely for the opposite reasons.

And just before that called out people for being circle jerk ninjas.

Good form Peter, good form (this is not name calling, this is a reference to the movie Hook LOL, except I'm being sarcastic AF).

I'm 100% in favor of civility and spreading kindness in a world that desperately needs it. But you sir are a douchy wolf in sheep's clothing preying on women. You want civil, earn it.

On a light-hearted note I've heard that Miss Hunter is getting a new massage table. Maybe one of her clients would be willing to drop her old one on the corner of Wealthy and Division, that's where future women for FRENZ is scouted right? Maybe you didn't care about the table but in a now deleted post you seemed attached to it.

I will end with something of a truce though. I'm a firm believer that people can change, and that includes you. I doubt you'll change what you do in the hobby since it appears to be your Schtick, but maybe you can. You back off from bugging women that want nothing to do with you and I'll stop firing truth arrows out of my quiver. Maybe consider answering a question or two occasionally without placing me in some made up squad too. We all know the only squad on this board is FRENZ and what it means to be part of that club.[/QUOTE]I'm the one that placed you in the "squad", not Benz. Indirectly, by the way. You placed yourself in the car. (grin) So, fire your. "truth arrows" where they belong. Sorry my own "truth arrow" hit close to the mark. But, as you admit, the shoe fits you very well.

Still waiting for talent you bring to the board, BTW. Lead by example. Let's see what you can do since you're so critical of what girls other people bring here. I'd love to see that. Glad you can move on from this juvenile BS.

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5639040]I'm the one that placed you in the "squad", not Benz. Indirectly, by the way. You placed yourself in the car. (grin) So, fire your. "truth arrows" where they belong. Sorry my own "truth arrow" hit close to the mark. But, as you admit, the shoe fits you very well.

Still waiting for talent you bring to the board, BTW. Lead by example. Let's see what you can do since you're so critical of what girls other people bring here. I'd love to see that. Glad you can move on from this juvenile BS.[/QUOTE]Jesus Mary and Joseph dude. I already commented on bringing talent to the board or not. It's not the same thing as bringing unreliable up reputable women to the board and endorsing them like they walk on water. Or that you need to buy them chocolate so they aren't so bitchy. The fact that you can't see the difference is interesting but maybe I gave you too much credit.

You need to understand that this isn't juvenile. You trying to back up your "buddy" with nothing more than "I know you are but what am I" IS juvenile.

I asked questions and made remarks. Prove me wrong and stop trying to change the subject. Both you and Benz can't seem to do that.

Why isn't Benz bragging about Serenity every day?

Name a single reliable reputable provider Benz brought to the scene.

Easy questions right?

[QUOTE=HornyFlyer;5639040]I'm the one that placed you in the "squad", not Benz. Indirectly, by the way. You placed yourself in the car. (grin) So, fire your. "truth arrows" where they belong. Sorry my own "truth arrow" hit close to the mark. But, as you admit, the shoe fits you very well.

Still waiting for talent you bring to the board, BTW. Lead by example. Let's see what you can do since you're so critical of what girls other people bring here. I'd love to see that. Glad you can move on from this juvenile BS.[/QUOTE]I think you're missing the point. Women get into this industry out of desperation, usually driven by some form of addiction. Once they straighten their lives out, they're most often gone. They're not doing it because they enjoy having sex with lots of men and only wish they could find a way to make that happen.

We're doing enough harm by supporting the habits of those already in the game. Bringing in a new woman is ultimately luring a desperate person into a bad situation that will likely spiral out of control. Making them feel like they have to rely on you to keep them safe and bring them clients makes you their only lifeline.

If JMaul started bringing new talent to the board, his points would be weakened. I would want no part of it.

[QUOTE=ChadAdler;5639169]I think you're missing the point. Women get into this industry out of desperation, usually driven by some form of addiction. Once they straighten their lives out, they're most often gone. They're not doing it because they enjoy having sex with lots of men and only wish they could find a way to make that happen.

We're doing enough harm by supporting the habits of those already in the game. Bringing in a new woman is ultimately luring a desperate person into a bad situation that will likely spiral out of control. Making them feel like they have to rely on you to keep them safe and bring them clients makes you their only lifeline.

If JMaul started bringing new talent to the board, his points would be weakened. I would want no part of it.[/QUOTE]I disagree, I'm a nymphomaniac and I have zero addictions.

[QUOTE=AdorableRose;5639218]I disagree, I'm a nymphomaniac and I have zero addictions.[/QUOTE]I, too, also LOVE sex and I am kinky af, I am sure many mongers can agree And guess what no addictions here either, unless you count sex as an addiction, then I absolutely have a horrible horrible horrible addiction.

LOL But in all realness not everyone that is an escort is an addict or a drug user. Zara and Debra Hollander both excellent providers and reputable. J / s.

I'd say you are the exception, especially in this market. There aren't a lot of high end escorts here in GR. I agree not all are supporting a habit but many are. You also aren't offering car dates and actually screen new clients for your safety. Scroll through the ads on STG and it's very sad how many of the ladies are clearly on drugs and obviously live very hard lives.

[QUOTE=MissHunter;5639267]I, too, also LOVE sex and I am kinky af, I am sure many mongers can agree And guess what no addictions here either, unless you count sex as an addiction, then I absolutely have a horrible horrible horrible addiction.

LOL But in all realness not everyone that is an escort is an addict or a drug user. Zara and Debra Hollander both excellent providers and reputable. J / s.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ChadAdler;5639169]I think you're missing the point. Women get into this industry out of desperation, usually driven by some form of addiction. Once they straighten their lives out, they're most often gone. They're not doing it because they enjoy having sex with lots of men and only wish they could find a way to make that happen.

We're doing enough harm by supporting the habits of those already in the game. Bringing in a new woman is ultimately luring a desperate person into a bad situation that will likely spiral out of control. Making them feel like they have to rely on you to keep them safe and bring them clients makes you their only lifeline.

If JMaul started bringing new talent to the board, his points would be weakened. I would want no part of it.[/QUOTE]I think your point is true in many, not all cases. It's the reason I left the escort side of the business. When Riley and Miss Hunter left during the pandemic I lost my fave 2 providers on and they both gave great massages too!

IMO a user is not worth seeing. Every post I see that says "she's definitely a user but. " is invalid to me. Because drugs attracts risks, other types of people, and I live under this silly impression that my money is going to help better their lives. Not true if drugs are involved, but true in other cases.

I think you'll find Chad that there are plenty of clean options out there. The problem is people want to pay what they're willing to pay and reliable options that are clean can charge more. Supply and demand. If someone who is only willing to pay $150/ hr for an escort and complains that all the options are drugged out hot garbage, I would say it doesn't cost too much more to find someone clean, sexy, and reliable.

Blah Blah Blah, Blahbitty Blah Blah!

What Benz has achieved on this forum is nothing short of pure genius. I think my favorite part is "Now that I'm in early retirement from my Bitcoin collection.". Not only does he get a free BJ for saving the damsel in distress, he wins the lotto to boot! And if you think he doesn't get off more on raising your ire than raising his johnson for some fat chick in Ionia with a catheter hole in her cleavage, then you haven't been paying very close attention.

Genius.

As entertaining as this dumpster fire has been. Can I change the subject for a minute?

Here's my latest irritation (queue George Castanza's dad - "I got to lot of problems with you people!

Am I the only one annoyed by the constant "treat her right boys" ending to so many newbies reviews? I understand they don't know how to end the review, but c'Mon. Like that command is going to change how a monger would treat a provider. Is he going to think "well I only want to tip Maya $40 for the HE on a 30 minute massage, but JoeBlow69 with 14 posts told me to treat her right, so I'll give $60. " Or "I'll be sure to shower before seeing Linda because JoeBlow69 told me to treat her right. " I believe most posters here actually do treat the women well, it's one thing to offer specifics like "when first contacting her use your name and be respectful and use real English words. " That actually is good advice as some providers have told me they can tell a lot about a man just from his initial text. Maybe some of the advertiser members here can weigh in on initial text reactions.

But the whole "treat her right boys" is just inane and condescending. And doesn't it always come from a provider with a few posts, and less reviews.

Am I right, or am I just becoming grumpy before my time?

G2.

Yes, sex is an addiction, some on these boards have, or we wouldn't take the risks. At least I wouldn't.

Some providers do candy, some do not. Some mongers do as well, some do not.

Zara is drug-free, and friendly to boot, which is not all that common with providers. Her high $$, keeps everyone from seeing her, as with reports of her not being overly into the act. I've seen her twice (before her rates jumped) and enjoyed both times. In my little opinion, she seems to enjoy it as well, or is still very good at playing off of her 'acting' career.

Sex can be harmless, AND done with strangers, without drugs involved. While rare at times, clean providers do exist, and some like sex for sex. The $$ is just a bonus.

RIP Bree.

[QUOTE=MissHunter;5639267]I, too, also LOVE sex and I am kinky af, I am sure many mongers can agree And guess what no addictions here either, unless you count sex as an addiction, then I absolutely have a horrible horrible horrible addiction.

LOL But in all realness not everyone that is an escort is an addict or a drug user. Zara and Debra Hollander both excellent providers and reputable. J / s.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gene2;5639753]As entertaining as this dumpster fire has been. Can I change the subject for a minute?

Here's my latest irritation (queue George Castanza's dad - "I got to lot of problems with you people!

Am I the only one annoyed by the constant "treat her right boys" ending to so many newbies reviews? I understand they don't know how to end the review, but c'Mon. Like that command is going to change how a monger would treat a provider. Is he going to think "well I only want to tip Maya $40 for the HE on a 30 minute massage, but JoeBlow69 with 14 posts told me to treat her right, so I'll give $60. " Or "I'll be sure to shower before seeing Linda because JoeBlow69 told me to treat her right. " I believe most posters here actually do treat the women well, it's one thing to offer specifics like "when first contacting her use your name and be respectful and use real English words. " That actually is good advice as some providers have told me they can tell a lot about a man just from his initial text. Maybe some of the advertiser members here can weigh in on initial text reactions.

But the whole "treat her right boys" is just inane and condescending. And doesn't it always come from a provider with a few posts, and less reviews.

Am I right, or am I just becoming grumpy before my time?

G2.[/QUOTE]My other pet peeve - "I had a dream. " WTF just who do these people think they are kidding? I am sure it is confusing to LEO "Joeblow69 just had a dream so surely he didn't just fuck a prostitute".

[QUOTE=NoseJelly;5639433]Blah Blah Blah, Blahbitty Blah Blah![/QUOTE]Just like clock work, long line at b / k for the ole lady? Lmao.