"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

[QUOTE=MansRuin;3696043]Hey all I'm from Birmingham, but thought I would post my question here since ATL has an active SB group. Is anyone else experiencing problems with SA? For the past week I cannot get message or use the search function. I have not noticed any mention of this and we curious. Oddly I had a friend that has a account but an expired membership log into his account from my device and it loads just fine. I've emailed SA with no response. Just wondering if I'm the oddball here? BTW I envy you Atlanta guys with your goldmine of ladies SB and escorts. Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]I've been noticing terrible lag on the site for a few weeks. I noticed it a few days before my premium expired, as well as after it expired. Its not always laggy, but it happens a lot.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;3695717]I can vouch for Shelby as well. She used to place ads on CL from time to time and I met her where she dances once and she gave me BBBJTCWS in the VIP room and then had her to my place and got FS with pics / video, etc. She also got vid of the cumshot for her SO in my case as well and I was fine with it. I'm glad she is still around and may have to see her again.[/QUOTE]She's great looking. Where's she dance.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;3695854]So I have plenty of experience with CL and BP girls, etc, but new to this SD site. I used a prepaid card to sign up on SeekingArrangement so no personal info there and also connect with a VPN.

I am not really into uploading a pic of me on there. It just seems like a bad idea and are many of these women really not going to respond if they don't see a pic? I figure I can always text them one, but maybe they wouldn't want to give out their number without seeing one.

And of course going to use a burner phone or textnow / google voice acct, but I wonder how many of them would be cool with installing Signal? That is encrypted texting with no paper trail and you can have the messages auto destruct. I don't want them to get weirded out by any of that, but both the right wing and left wing is going after all manner of consensual sex between adults, so may not hurt to be extra careful.[/QUOTE]I share your worry about sharing pics, etc. I suggest finding a pic (google, etc) that's similar to yours and using that instead. That way you're preserving your privacy without catfishing someone. You can set it up on your profile as a private pic which you have to give someone permission to see. As far as contacts, If you're using a burner phone and a texting app, you're as safe as reasonably possible. It's hard enough getting someone to give you any way to contact them that you shouldn't make it too hard on them. Check out the Kik app as well.

I've been a contributor on Massage Reports and had a stupid question about this forum, perhaps.

I signed up for Secret Benefits. (the one that pops up every time you click on this site).

Why are they're no post about the girls on that site? Anyone else use that site? What are the differences in the two?

I've met one girl and it didn't go all that well.

I'm thinking I signed up for the wrong site.

[QUOTE=Harley32;3696300]I share your worry about sharing pics, etc. I suggest finding a pic (google, etc) that's similar to yours and using that instead. That way you're preserving your privacy without catfishing someone. You can set it up on your profile as a private pic which you have to give someone permission to see. As far as contacts, If you're using a burner phone and a texting app, you're as safe as reasonably possible. It's hard enough getting someone to give you any way to contact them that you shouldn't make it too hard on them. Check out the Kik app as well.[/QUOTE]That's my one word for you. The Richmond sugar thread is the archive (even a separate archive!) of how to do this safely. You Atlanta guys just need to read that for about 3 days straight. IDK about VPN, I do all my communication on the Tor browser. Note the headers on emails include the IP address of the originating node.

I travel to Birmingham on business and have had very good success on SA there. Last week I was there and banged 4 women while I was there (the 5th woman was very young and beautiful but was not getting intimate on first meet). The best was VanessaAL on seeking arrangements. Very beautiful face but was bigger than her pictures revealed on the site. As soon as she walked in my hotel room her tongue was in my mouth and we did a great round of DFK. She was all about pleasing and she did! She had a look about her that was very sultry and definitely made my motor run. Her pussy was very wet after our DFK and the clothes came off. She was very responsive and had the first orgasm from foreplay. Her nipples are very sensitive and that helped the orgasm come prior to penetration. The sex was we, t hot and wild. If you are ok with a tall, bigger and really beautiful woman then she is perfect for you. On the other end of the spectrum I met with Haleylake from SA as well that week. She is a very small thin spinner. Not as pretty as Vanessa but her body was rockin. Nice set of enhanced boobs and her pussy was small and tasty. She sat on my face and guided her pussy on my mouth and tongue to her pleasure spots and was shaking and convulsing in no time. She then put on a hat and was on my cock without hesitation. She really takes it well. Her down sides are no kissing (until she gets to know you LOL) and was not very snuggly. She seemed to be mechanical in the that department. The condom requirement was a bit of a turn off for me. I struggle with condoms and have had great success on SA with BBFS. All in all great sex but no real closeness. Allowance was right at 200. Will definitely repeat when I return to Birmingham though. I get the sense with repeat meetings and maybe a little extra allowance the hat requirement can be waived.

PC.

[QUOTE=MansRuin;3696043]Hey all I'm from Birmingham, but thought I would post my question here since ATL has an active SB group. Is anyone else experiencing problems with SA? For the past week I cannot get message or use the search function. I have not noticed any mention of this and we curious. Oddly I had a friend that has a account but an expired membership log into his account from my device and it loads just fine. I've emailed SA with no response. Just wondering if I'm the oddball here? BTW I envy you Atlanta guys with your goldmine of ladies SB and escorts. Thanks a lot.[/QUOTE]

How many have experienced this?:

I am now getting women that send you permission to view their private pics WITHOUT me asking. One woman did that, there was no way I'd have requested them (don't want to be rude, but certainly wasn't my type) and I responded by saying thanks, did not realize I had requested.

I guess it's one way to get you to look at their page.

[QUOTE=PConnoisseur;3697247]I travel to Birmingham on business and have had very good success on SA there. Last week I was there and banged 4 women while I was there (the 5th woman was very young and beautiful but was not getting intimate on first meet). The best was VanessaAL on seeking arrangements. Very beautiful face but was bigger than her pictures revealed on the site. As soon as she walked in my hotel room her tongue was in my mouth and we did a great round of DFK. She was all about pleasing and she did! She had a look about her that was very sultry and definitely made my motor run. Her pussy was very wet after our DFK and the clothes came off. She was very responsive and had the first orgasm from foreplay. Her nipples are very sensitive and that helped the orgasm come prior to penetration. The sex was we, t hot and wild. If you are ok with a tall, bigger and really beautiful woman then she is perfect for you. On the other end of the spectrum I met with Haleylake from SA as well that week. She is a very small thin spinner. Not as pretty as Vanessa but her body was rockin. Nice set of enhanced boobs and her pussy was small and tasty. She sat on my face and guided her pussy on my mouth and tongue to her pleasure spots and was shaking and convulsing in no time. She then put on a hat and was on my cock without hesitation. She really takes it well. Her down sides are no kissing (until she gets to know you LOL) and was not very snuggly. She seemed to be mechanical in the that department. The condom requirement was a bit of a turn off for me. I struggle with condoms and have had great success on SA with BBFS. All in all great sex but no real closeness. Allowance was right at 200. Will definitely repeat when I return to Birmingham though. I get the sense with repeat meetings and maybe a little extra allowance the hat requirement can be waived.

PC.[/QUOTE]Very nice and I was thinking of doing similar with some of the cities around ATL. I used to get a few women lined up from CL and do 3 or 4 in a day sometimes (I didn't get off until the last one). But most were non-pros and some were free, some were not....good times and wish I still had that libido from a few years ago.

So when you say "allowance" are you giving them $200 a week or is that just the amount for that session / meeting?

How much did you give VanessaAL? She sounds excellent and thanks for sharing your experiences with both of these?

Ok new to SA, but been mongering for many years, so just trying to figure out what is normal etiquette in this new SD realm. When you guys are moving things forward, at what point do you ask how much they want for a session? And is it called a "meeting" or I forget the proper term.

And do you ask this on SA chat or do you do that via text with burner phone, etc? I'm not sure if I should bother getting their # if they are asking more than I want to help them out with, but then again, maybe not great to be discussing $$$ on SA. Then again, as long as no sex is mentioned, the not sure if it matters.

Thanks for the help and I need to read that entire Richmond thread and read this one from the beginning for some additional tips.

Saw this profile pop up on SA yesterday. Reached out to her to see what she would be willing to accept as an arrangement. Then I noticed her occupation. I will report back if it goes anywhere.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f5bf5b03-4b25-422f-8401-4320650d12e5[/URL]

[QUOTE=SoonerFan72;3696151]I've been noticing terrible lag on the site for a few weeks. I noticed it a few days before my premium expired, as well as after it expired. Its not always laggy, but it happens a lot.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input mine is working fine now. I've been a member of SA for years and yes sometimes there is problems like any site. However this lasted a week for me and I just renewed my membership and was getting annoying.

[QUOTE=PConnoisseur;3697247]I travel to Birmingham on business and have had very good success on SA there. Last week I was there and banged 4 women while I was there (the 5th woman was very young and beautiful but was not getting intimate on first meet). The best was VanessaAL on seeking arrangements. Very beautiful face but was bigger than her pictures revealed on the site. As soon as she walked in my hotel room her tongue was in my mouth and we did a great round of DFK. She was all about pleasing and she did! She had a look about her that was very sultry and definitely made my motor run. Her pussy was very wet after our DFK and the clothes came off. She was very responsive and had the first orgasm from foreplay. Her nipples are very sensitive and that helped the orgasm come prior to penetration. The sex was we, t hot and wild. If you are ok with a tall, bigger and really beautiful woman then she is perfect for you. On the other end of the spectrum I met with Haleylake from SA as well that week. She is a very small thin spinner. Not as pretty as Vanessa but her body was rockin. Nice set of enhanced boobs and her pussy was small and tasty. She sat on my face and guided her pussy on my mouth and tongue to her pleasure spots and was shaking and convulsing in no time. She then put on a hat and was on my cock without hesitation. She really takes it well. Her down sides are no kissing (until she gets to know you LOL) and was not very snuggly. She seemed to be mechanical in the that department..[/QUOTE]I can vouch for VenessaAL as well being from Birmingham. Great GFE and certainly worth a visit if you're in town. Contrary to her profile she has been a member of SA for about 5 years and with different names so this is not her first rodeo. She has a gorgeous face IMO but I'm a sucker for brunettes. She is thick and she has steadily gotten heavier over the past 5 years. Should have seen her curvy body 5 years ago before adding weight. Very tall close to 6' and I'm 5'6.

Very sweet, GFE.

Haleylake. I've never met but sent a message a while back and after reading her first message I knew we would not click. To business like with rules so I wrote her off.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;3697875]Very nice and I was thinking of doing similar with some of the cities around ATL. I used to get a few women lined up from CL and do 3 or 4 in a day sometimes (I didn't get off until the last one). But most were non-pros and some were free, some were not....good times and wish I still had that libido from a few years ago.

So when you say "allowance" are you giving them $200 a week or is that just the amount for that session / meeting?

How much did you give VanessaAL? She sounds excellent and thanks for sharing your experiences with both of these?[/QUOTE]VanessaAL I paid $300 a visit. However we went out to dinners and what not before dessert alone. Great deal for me but I know not everyone looks for that. Not sure if she is flexible but it never hurts to ask.

Anyone else that travels to Bham / AL need info just get in touch with me and I will let you know if I have any info.

[QUOTE=AtlCobra98;3662323]Slasha is a BBW who needs a little love and attention (and help). Great personality. Likes to kiss. Really works hard to please. If you don't mind a girl with some extra padding then look her up. She is not a pro by any stretch of the imagination.

I gave her 125 and was there an hour and had multiple shots on goal.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f3ed6046-7b41-4920-a104-802ab9d77d76[/URL][/QUOTE]Appreciate the intel Cobra. Slasha is a cool chic from Alabama who has fallen on hard times. Had a similar experience. She has a lot of cushion in her stomach. 36 C breasts. Couple of tattoos that aren't distracting. Good BBBJ and then she rolled over awaiting me to enter for mish. She had no protection and was going to let me plow BBFS. But I didn't take her up on her offer so just continued BBBJNQNS until completion. $1. 2. As always YMMV. Ripper.

[QUOTE=Ripvan12;3698358]Appreciate the intel Cobra. Slasha is a cool chic from Alabama who has fallen on hard times. Had a similar experience. She has a lot of cushion in her stomach. 36 C breasts. Couple of tattoos that aren't distracting. Good BBBJ and then she rolled over awaiting me to enter for mish. She had no protection and was going to let me plow BBFS. But I didn't take her up on her offer so just continued BBBJNQNS until completion. $1. 2. As always YMMV. Ripper.[/QUOTE]Sounds like a good one. I have been debating some of these larger and older women on SA, because I could probably get that caliber on a dating site for "free". BUT it is a lot of time and effort in that case and you don't even know if they are going to do the deed in the end. And time is money so getting together with one of these older ones can be worth it if the price is right. $1. 2 sounds reasonable, but got to get BBBJ for sure. Thanks for the info though and may have to hit her up.

[QUOTE=AtlCobra98;3662323]Slasha is a BBW who needs a little love and attention (and help). Great personality. Likes to kiss. Really works hard to please. If you don't mind a girl with some extra padding then look her up. She is not a pro by any stretch of the imagination.

I gave her 125 and was there an hour and had multiple shots on goal.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/f3ed6046-7b41-4920-a104-802ab9d77d76[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks as well for the info. BTW, is there any way you could clear some of your messages from your inbox on here. I lost your email so was trying to message you. We traded a few a couple of years ago. Thanks and sorry to everyone else for the off topic message.

I just signed up for SA and have some good prospects lined up and will hopefully be contributing some intel at some point, before long.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;3697877]Ok new to SA, but been mongering for many years, so just trying to figure out what is normal etiquette in this new SD realm. When you guys are moving things forward, at what point do you ask how much they want for a session? And is it called a "meeting" or I forget the proper term.

And do you ask this on SA chat or do you do that via text with burner phone, etc? I'm not sure if I should bother getting their # if they are asking more than I want to help them out with, but then again, maybe not great to be discussing $$$ on SA. Then again, as long as no sex is mentioned, the not sure if it matters.

Thanks for the help and I need to read that entire Richmond thread and read this one from the beginning for some additional tips.[/QUOTE]Lot of girls just term a meeting an "arrangement" , the term "meeting" is probably alright also. Different men are after different things as are the women. I never discuss money unless they bring it up and if it seems like all they want to talk about and are looking at monthly $ then I ditch them. The key is to be personable and cool and funny and get them to like you and have confidence in you. These are usually girls wanting real men not boys, you need to take the lead. Seems like they all know the normal rates are 2-300. The most any girl asked me for was 400 per meet.

In 3 of the 10 chicks I have bagged from SA in the past 3 months we didn't even discuss money and I gave them what I wanted after the session and I was fair with them. I never asked them for their number but if we had a bit of chat going I would offer my direct burner#, sometimes they would then leave me their number to contact. These girls are not pros and nothing like escorts or BP girls.

The key for me was to get them to dinner then they have some skin in the game and figure they might as well get laid and get some cash. If you go into it willing to pay 2-3 plus the room you will be fine. I couple of my girls can host, but most do not.

[QUOTE=Leep12;3698972]Lot of girls just term a meeting an "arrangement" , the term "meeting" is probably alright also. Different men are after different things as are the women. I never discuss money unless they bring it up and if it seems like all they want to talk about and are looking at monthly $ then I ditch them. The key is to be personable and cool and funny and get them to like you and have confidence in you. These are usually girls wanting real men not boys, you need to take the lead. Seems like they all know the normal rates are 2-300. The most any girl asked me for was 400 per meet.

In 3 of the 10 chicks I have bagged from SA in the past 3 months we didn't even discuss money and I gave them what I wanted after the session and I was fair with them. I never asked them for their number but if we had a bit of chat going I would offer my direct burner#, sometimes they would then leave me their number to contact. These girls are not pros and nothing like escorts or BP girls.

The key for me was to get them to dinner then they have some skin in the game and figure they might as well get laid and get some cash. If you go into it willing to pay 2-3 plus the room you will be fine. I couple of my girls can host, but most do not.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. That is very surprising that 3 out of 10 didn't even bring it up. I figure I should get it out of the way, so they won't have to worry about it during the session and also so I won't risk upsetting some psychobitch who expects five hundy. I asked one who was new to it what she thought was appropriate and she said "$400. Or whatever you are ok with". So I cut that in half really quick. But now thinking I should just bring up a reasonable number first. And I'm not trying to lowball, them and I honestly offer what I think they are worth, both to me and on the SA market. A 21 why / o piece of ass gets a different offer than a 45 why / o chunky gal. So far, only one out of five rejected my offer, outright. I also am trying to offer Amazon gift cards, sometimes instead of cash. But I get if their rent is due and they need $$.

And I think "visit" is the way to go with the terminology. I said "meeting" one time and a woman thought I wanted to pay for our first public meeting and I said no way. I don't plan to take any to dinner, but I will meet in public. I'm just a bit in odd in that I have never enjoyed eating out that much, so not going to bother with that. I figure can meet in public and exchange some pleasantries and go back to my room. I've only had a couple of women bail after I've done this in the past. And talking regular dating site women. With that $ carrot on the stick, very few are going to get cold feet in this case, especially after they've seen my pics (from far away and a few years ago) and texted with me a good bit. More likely, they will take one for the team and get some cash to buy their kids some shoes. Or buy some perfume or whatever.

I'm just using a [URL]textnow.com[/URL] number and I get their # and message them that way. I'll definitely use a burner phone for any voicecalls though. And of course being careful with my wording during negotiations and make it clear that I'm offering them a gift to help them in return for hanging out with me. Not in return for any sexual favors. Of course.

I have a couple of them lined up for this week if it works out. Out of state, but not that far where I wanted to visit anyway. I just spent a few hours messaging scores of SA ladies in probably 50 mile radius from where I will be. In the past, I've taken these trips and done 2 or 3 in one day and there really is diminishing returns. The first one is great and then just a dropoff in excitement for the others. One a day is best, although sometimes just got to monger to excess. I have some decent metro ATL prospects as well.

Anyway, I know from experience that many of these women flake out, so not congratulating myself yet. But could be some fun times ahead.

BTW, if you can get out of the city and are ok with more average women, you can definitely find some that aren't very active. One said that she hasn't met any guys because they all treat her like a prostitute and talk to her for a week and disappear. But I think I like having these non-pros to get together with. Less likely they will be burned out and drugged out. And I do like helping them with some cash, because many are students or just need to pay the bills. They probably try harder in bed and don't hate men from all the asshole mongers that they encounter every day.

And the average women aren't worth a 90 min drive but if you like to travel and take overnight or weekend trips anyway, then just a great way to spice up your adventures. Damn I wish I would have thought of this a few months ago when I was on a long road trip. . just didn't occur to me though.

My allowance for Haley was 200 per meet. I offered Vanessa 300 but feel I could have offered less and she would have accepted. All in all I was very pleased with my awesome experience verses the allowance. Birmingham is a great city for me.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;3697875]Very nice and I was thinking of doing similar with some of the cities around ATL. I used to get a few women lined up from CL and do 3 or 4 in a day sometimes (I didn't get off until the last one). But most were non-pros and some were free, some were not....good times and wish I still had that libido from a few years ago.

So when you say "allowance" are you giving them $200 a week or is that just the amount for that session / meeting?

How much did you give VanessaAL? She sounds excellent and thanks for sharing your experiences with both of these?[/QUOTE]

Peter.

I so agree with your thinking here. I go for the experience not the hotness. My best on SA have been older and less perfect bodies but real women who just want to fuck. I have had an awesome 5 month run on SA and plan to continue. I will respond to another post on my experience I had today.

PC.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;3698981]BTW, if you can get out of the city and are ok with more average women, you can definitely find some that aren't very active. One said that she hasn't met any guys because they all treat her like a prostitute and talk to her for a week and disappear. But I think I like having these non-pros to get together with. Less likely they will be burned out and drugged out. And I do like helping them with some cash, because many are students or just need to pay the bills. They probably try harder in bed and don't hate men from all the asshole mongers that they encounter every day.

And the average women aren't worth a 90 min drive but if you like to travel and take overnight or weekend trips anyway, then just a great way to spice up your adventures. Damn I wish I would have thought of this a few months ago when I was on a long road trip. . just didn't occur to me though.[/QUOTE]

I met with Slasha this AM and I'm here to tell you she is legit. Like others have said a little heavy in the middle but she is so laid bad back and easy to get to know. I have been with over 30 SA babes in a bunch of cities but she is in my top 5. There is just something about her. Her smile, her look, her willingness to please. It's hard to explain. I gave 200 as I realize she is down on her luck pretty bad. Her pussy is wet and tight. She sucks cock as good as most. I went for the BBFS as that is what I like and OMG she is amazing. For some reason I just connect with this woman. As always YMMV but she is a multiple repeat for me.

PC.

[QUOTE=Ripvan12;3698358]Appreciate the intel Cobra. Slasha is a cool chic from Alabama who has fallen on hard times. Had a similar experience. She has a lot of cushion in her stomach. 36 C breasts. Couple of tattoos that aren't distracting. Good BBBJ and then she rolled over awaiting me to enter for mish. She had no protection and was going to let me plow BBFS. But I didn't take her up on her offer so just continued BBBJNQNS until completion. $1. 2. As always YMMV. Ripper.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PConnoisseur;3699849]I met with Slasha this AM and I'm here to tell you she is legit. Like others have said a little heavy in the middle but she is so laid bad back and easy to get to know. I have been with over 30 SA babes in a bunch of cities but she is in my top 5. There is just something about her. Her smile, her look, her willingness to please. It's hard to explain. I gave 200 as I realize she is down on her luck pretty bad. Her pussy is wet and tight. She sucks cock as good as most. I went for the BBFS as that is what I like and OMG she is amazing. For some reason I just connect with this woman. As always YMMV but she is a multiple repeat for me.

PC.[/QUOTE]Damn she must be getting a lot of attention and cash flow from guys in this thread, but sounds like she deserves it. Good service should be rewarded with $$ I talked to her today as well, but just didn't work out to get together but going to try again soon.

You guys in this thread until you post some pictures of these babes I think I will roll dice in the real world rather than a maintenance fee just to play.

Somebody give me some insight on a viable prepaid credit card and I might partake. I would like to stop being so envious.

LOL.

I hope it works out for you. I'm going back some time this week just not sure when yet. I can't get her out of my mind. Damn she is so soft, pale white skin and down to earth. She deserves to be fuck well. Let me know how it goes.

PC.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;3699880]Damn she must be getting a lot of attention and cash flow from guys in this thread, but sounds like she deserves it. Good service should be rewarded with $$ I talked to her today as well, but just didn't work out to get together but going to try again soon.[/QUOTE]

Join dude. It is absolutely the best thing I have ever done. By far better than BP, CL and others in my opinion.

PC.

[QUOTE=Teninchthri;3699902]You guys in this thread until you post some pictures of these babes I think I will roll dice in the real world rather than a maintenance fee just to play.

Somebody give me some insight on a viable prepaid credit card and I might partake. I would like to stop being so envious.

LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PConnoisseur;3699838]Peter.

I so agree with your thinking here. I go for the experience not the hotness. My best on SA have been older and less perfect bodies but real women who just want to fuck. I have had an awesome 5 month run on SA and plan to continue. I will respond to another post on my experience I had today.

PC.[/QUOTE]Also, for me, a lot of it is how backed up I am, what time of day it is, etc. I've learned my best times for action are 11 am to 3 pm. Late at night, I just don't enjoy as much and of course don't enjoy if I just busted a few hours before. So when everything comes together and you are in the mood and you get a woman who is in the mood and even if she isn't smoking hot, it can be one of the best experiences. Somehow the stakes are not as high with the average / homely ones too and that lets me relax more and I often enjoy. But not downplaying the power of a hot, young, firm young woman. That can take you to another planet if it's good but often times it just falls far shot of the potential.

BTW, I talked to Mamichula31 and sounds like she could be fun but wants 3. 0 and seems all about business. She has four kids, so I get it, but I doubt going to go there with all these more promising prospects I have lined up.

You sound so much like me. I wish you well in your endeavors. I will share with you for sure. My fave is Twilight_Kiss. Her profile shows PA but she is in NW GA. She will squirt if you treat her right. My second is a younger woman but very hot sarbearxxx. Both are very sexual and for me BBFS which I so like.

Take care dude.

PC.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;3699941]Also, for me, a lot of it is how backed up I am, what time of day it is, etc. I've learned my best times for action are 11 am to 3 pm. Late at night, I just don't enjoy as much and of course don't enjoy if I just busted a few hours before. So when everything comes together and you are in the mood and you get a woman who is in the mood and even if she isn't smoking hot, it can be one of the best experiences. Somehow the stakes are not as high with the average / homely ones too and that lets me relax more and I often enjoy. But not downplaying the power of a hot, young, firm young woman. That can take you to another planet if it's good but often times it just falls far shot of the potential.

BTW, I talked to Mamichula31 and sounds like she could be fun but wants 3. 0 and seems all about business. She has four kids, so I get it but I doubt going to go there with all the more promising prospects I have lined up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Teninchthri;3699902]You guys in this thread until you post some pictures of these babes I think I will roll dice in the real world rather than a maintenance fee just to play.

Somebody give me some insight on a viable prepaid credit card and I might partake. I would like to stop being so envious.

LOL.[/QUOTE]I just got on there but can tell it is incredible. Best invention in human history. Well maybe #2 behind GPS, but it's up there.

It allows regular girls to feel good about whoring themselves out. It makes it socially acceptable. And of course it should be and no reason to feel bad about, but we know that many people can't think for themselves. Plus I guess if they are posting on a public site, it does need to be ok with their peer group.

I can't believe it took me so long to find the site and I was just plain dumb for not signing up earlier. It's a game changer.

And you can use Vanilla prepaid mc to pay for it. Get the orange $100 oe at Walmart and works fine. I think you can set the zip code and just put any name for what's supposedly on the card. But worked for me and will get another card every month. Well worth it if you do hardly any hobbying at all.

Thanks for the pointers after I balance my budget for next month I think I might partake! Stay tuned.

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;3700012]I just got on there but can tell it is incredible. Best invention in human history. Well maybe #2 behind GPS, but it's up there.

It allows regular girls to feel good about whoring themselves out. It makes it socially acceptable. And of course it should be and no reason to feel bad about, but we know that many people can't think for themselves. Plus I guess if they are posting on a public site, it does need to be ok with their peer group.

I can't believe it took me so long to find the site and I was just plain dumb for not signing up earlier. It's a game changer.

And you can use Vanilla prepaid mc to pay for it. Get the orange $100 oe at Walmart and works fine. I think you can set the zip code and just put any name for what's supposedly on the card. But worked for me and will get another card every month. Well worth it if you do hardly any hobbying at all.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeterJohnson;3699880]Damn she must be getting a lot of attention and cash flow from guys in this thread, but sounds like she deserves it. Good service should be rewarded with $$ I talked to her today as well, but just didn't work out to get together but going to try again soon.[/QUOTE]Just like the other post she is a little big, mostly open with what you'd like as long as she is taken care of since she is needing a bit of help. Just hope that the more traffic going thru doesn't make them get the GPS.

More about SD. I am starting to realize that there is a pretty good amount of fake profiles on there. I don't doubt that SA puts them up there to keep guys interested.

But they usually have one head shot photo of the woman, often sort of off kilter in the frame..and usually quasi modeling short or at least not totally amateur. No additional photos and very little text in the profile. Usually just one generic line in About me and What they are looking for. You know women like to talk about themselves, so just seems fake.

I wrote a couple of these and got a short reply back, but also very possible that SA does this just to keep the carrot dangling out there on the stick. It's not a huge drawback, because there are enough real women to keep me busy for awhile, but maybe not the goldmine that I first envisioned. However, headed north today and have a couple of prospects to meet up with tomorrow, if they don't flake on me. Not hot college girls, but I'm attracted to them and they seem fun. And won't be a huge expense, even if all goes according to plan.

Can she host? Any of you guys aware of SA gals that can host? I know its not commonplace but any that you know of that can please share. Thanks.

I started by saying hi and if she wanted to get together and she replied yeah if your real, so I continue to talk to prove I'm real and when I start proposing arrengements to meet she freaks out sayin "this isn't that" so I ask what is it?

She asks did you not read my profile? Which I did.

Then she asked how can she be assured that I will be at the location that I propose that we meet and I say well because this is an arrangement we both have something to gain from each other and she's like I'm not here for that so I ask her OK so you get financial aid for me and I get what exactly? And she says oh no This isn't BP have a nice day.

So another words this girl wants financial aid and mentorship for exactly not one goddamn thing from her other than attitude.

[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/017ecc6a-524e-416b-af0d-ca1fa2ce2a05[/URL]

I started by saying hi and if she wanted to get together and she replied yeah if your real, so I continue to talk to prove I'm real and when I start proposing arrengements to meet she freaks out sayin "this isn't that" so I ask what is it?

She asks did you not read my profile? Which I did.

Then she asked how can she be assured that I will be at the location that I propose that we meet and I say well because this is an arrangement we both have something to gain from each other and she's like I'm not here for that so I ask her OK so you get financial aid for me and I get what exactly? And she says oh no This isn't BP have a nice day.

So another words this girl wants financial aid and mentorship for exactly not one goddamn thing from her other than attitude.

And trust me, it's not that I approached her the wrong way, I've been on SA for about six months and I have bagged countless girls and some of them still call me even though they're long gone from there.

[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/017ecc6a-524e-416b-af0d-ca1fa2ce2a05[/URL]

She stays in long stay motel in Dallas. About to head her way for my second time.

[QUOTE=WheresMyMule;3701200]Can she host? Any of you guys aware of SA gals that can host? I know its not commonplace but any that you know of that can please share. Thanks.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3701731]I started by saying hi and if she wanted to get together and she replied yeah if your real, so I continue to talk to prove I'm real and when I start proposing arrengements to meet she freaks out sayin "this isn't that" so I ask what is it?

She asks did you not read my profile? Which I did.

Then she asked how can she be assured that I will be at the location that I propose that we meet and I say well because this is an arrangement we both have something to gain from each other and she's like I'm not here for that so I ask her OK so you get financial aid for me and I get what exactly? And she says oh no This isn't BP have a nice day.

So another words this girl wants financial aid and mentorship for exactly not one goddamn thing from her other than attitude.

And trust me, it's not that I approached her the wrong way, I've been on SA for about six months and I have bagged countless girls and some of them still call me even though they're long gone from there.

[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/017ecc6a-524e-416b-af0d-ca1fa2ce2a05[/URL][/QUOTE]I recently met up with a lady who told me the first guy she met gave her $1 k to help her out with no expectations in return. I obviously told her that wasn't something I could do or was even interested in. We ended up meeting and having a car date. Got naked, gave me a BJ to completion and a few minutes later told me this wasn't something she wanted to continue. We had planned on going several times, dinner, etc. I took her back and gave her part of what we'd agreed and she said it wasn't necessary. She deleted her profile and I guess got out of the game. But there are guys out there willing to give these ladies a lot money without doing much or anything. That's why you see the scammers on SA.

[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3701731]I started by saying hi and if she wanted to get together and she replied yeah if your real, so I continue to talk to prove I'm real and when I start proposing arrengements to meet she freaks out sayin "this isn't that" so I ask what is it?

And trust me, it's not that I approached her the wrong way, I've been on SA for about six months and I have bagged countless girls and some of them still call me even though they're long gone from there.

[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/017ecc6a-524e-416b-af0d-ca1fa2ce2a05[/URL][/QUOTE]There are quite a few of them on there like that, and often the better looking ones and just figure guys will pay them just to have the privilege of looking at them and talking some. And some of them don't even want to meet in person.

I guess there's nothing inherently wrong with that and maybe some rich billionaires like to help pretty young women, with nothing in return. I suppose it is similar to camgirls who just get naked online and guys give them money.

Of course, I'm not going for that. Out of principle, if nothing else, they aren't getting my hard earned $ without making me feel good, somehow. And if they make me feel really good, then I am very generous.

But once I see a profile that is looking for "platonic", I just hide that person and block them.

[QUOTE=Harley32;3701979]I recently met up with a lady who told me the first guy she met gave her $1 k to help her out with no expectations in return. But there are guys out there willing to give these ladies a lot money without doing much or anything. [/QUOTE]

Yes exactly...it's just like giving to charity and I can see how some rich, old dudes would do that, even though it makes things more difficult for the non obscenely wealthy mongers out here.

This "girl" (I'm trying not to call her names) is asking for 2. 5 K to "help her mom get out of jail" which she will repay you in get-togethers.

For the first time I laughed angry.

[URL]https://seekingarrangement.com/member/c4ae3f82-63d4-449a-8cb9-0b4df07c087c[/URL]

By the way she's a profile switcher. So I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the young asian girls in there would be only her.

Ok just scored my first one from SA. Mid 30's and up in NC area. I won't give out her name, because she wouldn't want that. But really sweet girl and we didn't even discuss the "arrangement" beforehand. She is in her 30's and chunky, so I was thinking maybe 1. 2 tops beforehand, but she was such a sweetheart and did BBFS and BBBJTCWS, plus she let me take pics and vid so I gave her about 3. 0 (but not in cash). Just gift cards and such. I'm definitely up for helping a single mom out if she makes me feel good and this girl definitely earned it.

This is the kind of girl I could probably get on a dating site for "free", although she might not have wanted to talk to me because I'm so much older than she is. So SA just lets you cut through the nonsense and also find women who aren't going to want to date for weeks before allowing you in those panties. It is more efficient, and again, time is money, so I think it's really going to be a good fit for me. Also Cash is King and I don't like to part with my cash, so if I can find girls who I can give Amazon gc to or whatever, it just works better for me. Most BP girls aren't going to go for that.

I was going to meet up with some more SA prospects on this trip, but this girl drained me pretty good, so may have to wait until another visit. I'm sure I could perform adequately, but I need to be backed up to have it be mind-blowing. And at this age, that takes a few days at least. It's frustrating though, and I have some really good prospects in this area, including a 20 why / o spinner who sent me topless pics and she looks incredible.

So this was an excellent start to my SA activities. Not an incredible score, but incredible sex and I'll take the latter over the former, but of course to have them both together is the best. Anyway, thanks for all the help and advice in this thread and I'll try to make more solid contributions in the future.

[URL]www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4da9a78b-8e0b-4454-a19d-63f2a87fda40[/URL]

She keeps hitting me up via text and I haven't had a chance to clear my schedule, but one text out of the blue wanted me to come over to spend the night with her and her bff. Wish I was single again.

[QUOTE=Harpo8;3702443][URL]www.seekingarrangement.com/member/4da9a78b-8e0b-4454-a19d-63f2a87fda40[/URL]

She keeps hitting me up via text and I haven't had a chance to clear my schedule, but one text out of the blue wanted me to come over to spend the night with her and her bff. Wish I was single again.[/QUOTE]Oh wow, so you've seen her before in the past? Mine share her info?