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I would be raising hell with the hotel manager about them giving out your info. I mean they already have you info so its not like you have to give that to them.
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4326919]She's not on there anymore. She's in college, and quickly realized she had a lot to lose. So she won't be a problem for me. But I'm going to be a real problem for her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=GolfMan57;4326997]I would be raising hell with the hotel manager about them giving out your info. I mean they already have you info so its not like you have to give that to them.[/QUOTE]Won millions because the hotel divulged her personal info, and since then all brands have allegedly tightened up their procedures. Its a serioius no no. ?Does not matter if you were cheating on your wife -- that's not illegal. Data breaches are. You should meet with the manager and ream him a new one -- at the very least, get several free nights for future banging.
Sad reality, if she is a hot number, Mr. FrontDouch McZitface will pretty much do anything for her to smile at him.
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4326791] . So I sent her her screenshots of her mom, dad, college dean, and employer's facebook accounts and reminded her about all the videos I took showing what a nice consensual time we had. Also screenshotted her threat and educated her on extortion and blackmail laws. That shut her up real quick. I'm going to wait 8-12 months and then utterly gut and ruin her life.[/QUOTE]I always do my best to verify an SB's true identity for a few reasons.
1) want to make sure she is not a scammer / total pro.
2) Just in case I need to fight back.
I had one pro try to out me, then I found her IRL and found her arrests for DUI and Solicitation, letting her know her threats -- which admitted me paying her for sex -- could easily be turned into her 3rd strike got her quiet.
Don't forget, exposing someone without asking for anything of value in return is just engaging in Bad Karma -- nothing illegal about it, so there is no blackmail / extortion on your part.
Girls in college will get cut off by parents if they find out they are whoring around with men who could be their dads!
School teachers, nurses and corporate types also don't want to be outed as cum guzzlers.
Service industry / creative types and self employed have little to lose.
[QUOTE=ErnestLl;4327047]I always do my best to verify an SB's true identity for a few reasons.
1) want to make sure she is not a scammer / total pro.
2) Just in case I need to fight back.
I had one pro try to out me, then I found her IRL and found her arrests for DUI and Solicitation, letting her know her threats -- which admitted me paying her for sex -- could easily be turned into her 3rd strike got her quiet.
Don't forget, exposing someone without asking for anything of value in return is just engaging in Bad Karma -- nothing illegal about it, so there is no blackmail / extortion on your part.
Girls in college will get cut off by parents if they find out they are whoring around with men who could be their dads!
School teachers, nurses and corporate types also don't want to be outed as cum guzzlers.
Service industry / creative types and self employed have little to lose.[/QUOTE]Yup, 99% of the time I go in knowing exactly who the SB is and having seen multiple social media handles. There are only two who are truly anonymous to me and one was my first and the other was my third lol. It's amazing how many girls use their real number or give enough details that a simple google search gives away their whole life/identity. I'm extremely careful, fake name, pics that aren't me but are close enough that when they meet me they won't be sure enough to complain (helps that I'm fit and not bad looking,) never give my real number or let them see my car, I don't link social media or have my phone number attached.
But the hotel piece has always bothered me, it's the one weak link that has my real info. They have to by law. Some don't but they are usually seedy motels and I have a very hard time getting 18yo suburban rich white girls to meet me there. And once you have my name I'm not hard to find. Since I only see young and inexperienced SB's they are almost always too ashamed to even talk to hotel staff and are happy to be getting some money. Avoiding pros, UTRs, and long time SB's cuts down on a lot of the games.
If I use a hotel often I usually test it. A couple times I've called after the fact to request the bill with no info or incorrect just to see how willing they are to email a bill with my info one or two have sent my info to a random email I use. In these case I made a big stink and it didn't happen again.
But with over 100 SB's under my belt it was bound to happen. She's dumb and impulsive, probably thought I'd just pay to make her go away. It clearly wasn't a well thought out plan and I suspect she cooked it up on the spot as she was trying to upsell during out session and seemed to need money. This has been easy money for her, she probably didn't think I'd bat an eye at her request for "a few hundred to keep this quiet. " But I went in knowing who she was and she bit off more than she could chew. It was all of 5 minutes before she was asking ME to keep it quiet. She realized she has a lot more to lose than I did.
I'm always ready for one of these girls to come out of the woodwork, my "list" has full names, ages as well as anything I'd need to find them again. This hobby places us at risk of blackmail etc and you need to be ready to shoot back. I was and what could have been a problem has been mildly entertaining.
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4327176]Yup, 99% of the time I go in knowing exactly who the SB is and having seen multiple social media handles. There are only two who are truly anonymous to me and one was my first and the other was my third lol. It's amazing how many girls use their real number or give enough details that a simple google search gives away their whole life/identity. I'm extremely careful, fake name, pics that aren't me but are close enough that when they meet me they won't be sure enough to complain (helps that I'm fit and not bad looking,) never give my real number or let them see my car, I don't link social media or have my phone number attached.
[/QUOTE]I'm curious how you do the telephone number search with Facebook having deactivated that. Spokeo and Intelius usually return garbage.
Scammer:
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6b5018d0-3039-4ffc-99e8-9b11ddc07b1a[/URL]
Wants to be paid upfront and meet some time later.
After I declined, she agreed to meet. While on the way to FC, she informed that she's on her period, she's not a Pro and that she'd like only One SD.
I turned around and she wouldn't get out of the car, threatening to call LEO. I asked her to go ahead and I'll show them her texts and pics.
Finally gave her a bunch of notes that I had in my wallet and then she got out.
Nice:
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/95373d70-4f61-4e61-84f7-8e5a2fc4ef73[/URL]
Depending upon chemistry, she has a variety. Could be a pro.
[QUOTE=BikeRider;4327411]I'm curious how you do the telephone number search with Facebook having deactivated that. Spokeo and Intelius usually return garbage.[/QUOTE]Often have their number linked to their facebook messanger, snapchat, instagram etc.
SA has lots of SCAM artists. Once they get money via cash app they stop responding. Beware guys.
[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4327668]Nice:
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/95373d70-4f61-4e61-84f7-8e5a2fc4ef73[/URL]
Depending upon chemistry, she has a variety. Could be a pro.[/QUOTE]Wow. Very nice. What did she settle on with ya for support?
[QUOTE=NovaGuy21;4327703]SA has lots of SCAM artists. Once they get money via cash app they stop responding. Beware guys.[/QUOTE]They just notice a sucker. Stop sending money before you've even met them or had any sugar.
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4327176]Yup, 99% of the time I go in knowing exactly who the SB is and having seen multiple social media handles. There are only two who are truly anonymous to me and one was my first and the other was my third lol. It's amazing how many girls use their real number or give enough details that a simple google search gives away their whole life/identity. I'm extremely careful, fake name, pics that aren't me but are close enough that when they meet me they won't be sure enough to complain (helps that I'm fit and not bad looking,) never give my real number or let them see my car, I don't link social media or have my phone number attached.
But the hotel piece has always bothered me, it's the one weak link that has my real info. They have to by law. Some don't but they are usually seedy motels and I have a very hard time getting 18yo suburban rich white girls to meet me there. And once you have my name I'm not hard to find. Since I only see young and inexperienced SB's they are almost always too ashamed to even talk to hotel staff and are happy to be getting some money. Avoiding pros, UTRs, and long time SB's cuts down on a lot of the games.
If I use a hotel often I usually test it. A couple times I've called after the fact to request the bill with no info or incorrect just to see how willing they are to email a bill with my info one or two have sent my info to a random email I use. In these case I made a big stink and it didn't happen again.
But with over 100 SB's under my belt it was bound to happen. She's dumb and impulsive, probably thought I'd just pay to make her go away. It clearly wasn't a well thought out plan and I suspect she cooked it up on the spot as she was trying to upsell during out session and seemed to need money. This has been easy money for her, she probably didn't think I'd bat an eye at her request for "a few hundred to keep this quiet. " But I went in knowing who she was and she bit off more than she could chew. It was all of 5 minutes before she was asking ME to keep it quiet. She realized she has a lot more to lose than I did.
I'm always ready for one of these girls to come out of the woodwork, my "list" has full names, ages as well as anything I'd need to find them again. This hobby places us at risk of blackmail etc and you need to be ready to shoot back. I was and what could have been a problem has been mildly entertaining.[/QUOTE]Well done. I make sure to know as much about a SB as possible before we truly engage, Although I don't go after the same types it's still good to have something to fire back with.
You are stupid and you're naive. The synonym of "SugarBaby" is "Prostitute. " You are just expected to deliver a different level of service.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a4b30ed3-cdb8-4e2f-a7fd-218aba8ea3b7[/URL]
If any monger buys her a house I expect it to be a doghouse.
[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4327665]Scammer:
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6b5018d0-3039-4ffc-99e8-9b11ddc07b1a[/URL]
Wants to be paid upfront and meet some time later.
After I declined, she agreed to meet. While on the way to FC, she informed that she's on her period, she's not a Pro and that she'd like only One SD.
I turned around and she wouldn't get out of the car, threatening to call LEO. I asked her to go ahead and I'll show them her texts and pics.
Finally gave her a bunch of notes that I had in my wallet and then she got out.[/QUOTE]Thanks bro for report. I chatted with her in the past but glad never met her. Phew.
[QUOTE=LostSoul;4328684]Thanks bro for report. I chatted with her in the past but glad never met her. Phew.[/QUOTE]Forgot to mention that she wanted 250 for M&G.
Wanted in advance.
I said sugar only in room then she started with all excuses and finally LEO threat at which I simply smiled and told her that I have her texts and pics as well.
I think one idiot gives someone advance or a big sum for M&G and SBs expect the same OR this could just be a rumor and SBs have just bought into this.
I've had more flakes with younger SBs than slightly older SBs who are more responsible and on time.
One of my all time faves is back in action. Cute college coed who is a firecracker in bed, loves getting it hard and rough. Anyone else enjoy her? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e76fbd0f-7408-4f37-90ea-323e1c3d8c7a[/URL].
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4329101]One of my all time faves is back in action. Cute college coed who is a firecracker in bed, loves getting it hard and rough. Anyone else enjoy her? [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e76fbd0f-7408-4f37-90ea-323e1c3d8c7a[/URL].[/QUOTE]I wrote her 2 months ago but she never read the message. ;.
Her second profile on seeking. Says she's really just looking for someone to send her $800 for rent before monday and that she will be intimate sometime in the future. She was on SA briefly back in January during a money crunch, and had the same platonic bs in her profile. I met her for "just coffee" and convinced her to go BBBJCIM and BBFS in the back seat of her car for $200. I'm not usually into car dates but she was hot, ok looks wise but just nubile and innocent. Super fresh and really nervous/embarrassed to be f*cking and s*cking for cash. Got SUPER wet and had some clear trouble with my size. Nothing like watching a true first timer go through the ringer.
She deleted her profile right after that and clearly regretted it. Nice fresh and VERY inexperienced college girl who has rent due Monday, maybe she'll get desperate. Doubt she will stick around,[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8a2f7831-2580-4ed8-8cbf-ce6f7a07a561[/URL].
Another return girl with a new profile. Great body, college athlete home for the summer. Half asian with smooth skin and nice breasts, unfortunately she has a large tattoo on her back. I asked her if there was anything she liked and didn't like, said she likes it rough and is down for anything. I obliged and gave it to her very hard, ruined her makeup and she lost a fake eyelash but didn't complain. After a striptease and a warm up with a rough and sloppy BBBJ she climbed on and rode me bare, then some mish and rough K9. Lot of choking, slapping and spitting. Finally decided to put the "down for anything" to the test and lubed up her ass, no protest so I pounded her ass very hard in multiple positions until I finished in it. She was $300.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/70be4465-73d9-4873-a0e9-c0bddf954270[/URL]
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4329698]Her second profile on seeking. Says she's really just looking for someone to send her $800 for rent before monday and that she will be intimate sometime in the future. She was on SA briefly back in January during a money crunch, and had the same platonic bs in her profile. I met her for "just coffee" and convinced her to go BBBJCIM and BBFS in the back seat of her car for $200. I'm not usually into car dates but she was hot, ok looks wise but just nubile and innocent. Super fresh and really nervous/embarrassed to be f*cking and s*cking for cash. Got SUPER wet and had some clear trouble with my size. Nothing like watching a true first timer go through the ringer.
She deleted her profile right after that and clearly regretted it. Nice fresh and VERY inexperienced college girl who has rent due Monday, maybe she'll get desperate. Doubt she will stick around,[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8a2f7831-2580-4ed8-8cbf-ce6f7a07a561[/URL].[/QUOTE] And... She's already gone LOL.
I used to know her outside of sugaring, still have mutual friends. Not really my type but since I kinda know her I'm really tempted to sample. Anyone actually played? PM or post much appreciated.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f615a637-db91-4095-876b-661de94a2339[/URL]
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4319150]Another one asking more than I want to pay, but she's very cute and low milage 18yo, graduated high school last week. Says she's only been with one guy. Willing to meet at the FC but wants $1,000. Maybe one of you guys that thinks that's reasonable can make a woman out of her.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/effa4c72-36df-47ed-9794-e3da3ca89f34[/URL][/QUOTE]I met her and got her to drop her price to $400, more than I wanted to pay but she's super fresh and I decided to treat myself. Went back to a hotel room and played without a time limit. True 18 yo arab girl who graduated high school this month. She is super green, said I was the second guy ever and I believe her. Took her a while to be able to handle my size without pain. Clearly didn't know what to do but was willing to be coached and kept asking if she was pleasing me. Really great big firm natural boobs and a shaved, fresh smelling teen kitty. Good BBBJ followed by BBFS in all positions, started out slow but ended up pounding with some breaks and choking her which was a fantasy for her. When it was time to finish she started asking me to cum inside which I did. She confessed she's not on the pill so we stopped by cvs for plan B (watched her take it) on the way to get some takeout before round 2.
It was a lot of fun defiling a true amateur, doubt she'll be around long as she will be chewed up and spit out by this hobby. She was very clingy at the end and started telling my how much she liked me and wanted to see me more. She finally suggested we be exclusive and stay the whole night so after she left I blocked her. I had my fun and tapped it first, but I don't need the crazy.
Now it's up to you guys to tear through her like a bag of potato chips lol
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4326919]She's not on there anymore. She's in college, and quickly realized she had a lot to lose. So she won't be a problem for me. But I'm going to be a real problem for her.[/QUOTE]You said she isn't on SA anymore and you taught her a lesson, just put her photo on here so if she comes back other know to avoid her.
So why go further? Your going to wait a year and destroy her life because you can isn't a real good reason. Give it up and move on.
[QUOTE=PinHead11;4330231]You said she isn't on SA anymore and you taught her a lesson, just put her photo on here so if she comes back other know to avoid her.
So why go further? Your going to wait a year and destroy her life because you can isn't a real good reason. Give it up and move on.[/QUOTE]Because I'm going to enjoy it, that's the only reason I need.
[QUOTE=Grasshopping;4329602]I wrote her 2 months ago but she never read the message. ;.[/QUOTE]Same thing, wrote her did not read 3 months going.
If these chicks don't see any consequences for their attempted blackmails you will start to see other Sbs try the same thing come out of the woodwork. It is right in showing there are consequences to these blackmail attempts.
[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;4330252]Because I'm going to enjoy it, that's the only reason I need.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RichGuy69;4323001]Talking with Passionatekisser2 she's just hot af.
A bit more mature but curvy and delicious.
I live in Tysons but she may be worth the hassle of her living in Md.
Anyone know her??[/QUOTE]Yes, she's amazing. Older and curvy-plus, but one of my favorites. She travels for work and will often come to or close to NoVa.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5bcb335a-b469-4ea9-b817-9e4013095d95[/URL]
Talked to this one for a while. Her pictures are cute but she wants a gift to meet for coffee. I told her on a coffee date, the gift was the coffee LOL and she told me to have a nice day. Nice girl but a time-waster, avoid.
[QUOTE=Pathfinder04;4331074][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/5bcb335a-b469-4ea9-b817-9e4013095d95[/URL]
Talked to this one for a while. Her pictures are cute but she wants a gift to meet for coffee. I told her on a coffee date, the gift was the coffee LOL and she told me to have a nice day. Nice girl but a time-waster, avoid.[/QUOTE]Should have told her that her gift was the access and opportunity to discuss an opportunity that could have brought something new, exciting and refreshing to her life and then asked if her "gift" request was worth missing out on that opportunity.
This lady is a porn star looking for some fun.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3193e0e5-c4e6-4469-a5f8-55690f805b4e[/URL]
This lady is a porn star looking for some fun.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3193e0e5-c4e6-4469-a5f8-55690f805b4e[/URL]
[QUOTE=FreddyCrougar;4331572]This lady is a porn star looking for some fun.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3193e0e5-c4e6-4469-a5f8-55690f805b4e[/URL][/QUOTE]Just go away.
[QUOTE=RichGuy69;4323001]Talking with Passionatekisser2 she's just hot af.
A bit more mature but curvy and delicious.
I live in Tysons but she may be worth the hassle of her living in Md.
Anyone know her??[/QUOTE]Saw her once at my place for 3. Can be bargained down to 250 pretty regularly it seems. Intel on her in the Bmore forum can be found under her old username goddessoflust. She was a good time, affectionate, good sexual appetite and seemingly no limits. However her looks are in some decline. She's maybe 20-30 pounds heavier. Breast are huge and soft but not firm. Can take whatever you can give her and was in no rush at all. The pics help her out a bit. I wouldn't say she is hot, but pleasant looking. Has some discoloration on some of her teeth which are otherwise fine. Will agitate to make it a regular thing after your first visit. Worth a visit. Not a priority repeat for me but a definite option.
She may be high traffic though, if you care about that sorta thing. Sent her a hello text to assess possible availability this past weekend and she replied "you're still coming at 4:00, right?" I replied she had the wrong guy. She replied LOL. Sounds like she's literally juggling too many balls. Still- good option for an older woman with meat on her bones.
[QUOTE=RegularJoe1985;4329079]Forgot to mention that she wanted 250 for M&G.
Wanted in advance.
I said sugar only in room then she started with all excuses and finally LEO threat at which I simply smiled and told her that I have her texts and pics as well.
I think one idiot gives someone advance or a big sum for M&G and SBs expect the same OR this could just be a rumor and SBs have just bought into this.
I've had more flakes with younger SBs than slightly older SBs who are more responsible and on time.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more on younger SBs comment. After many horrible experiences with 20's now I exclusively see 30's. Maybe younger ones fuck the only likes of KevinCalormis. LOL.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ca14259f-a756-40dc-b324-cb950b09ded8[/URL]
DTF. Allowance was $$, good performer but a little too into social media for my liking.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/e1dba7c7-4661-4bfa-be4d-7cdd4fce12dd[/URL]
This one is an example of a provider that simply is telling herself she's an SB. I saw her last summer (I delete my profile and change my # We met for coffee and we literally run through the same spiel and she doesn't realize she swallowed my load and licked the taint before. Anyway She's DTF but seemed to have Raised her allowance, also seems to be juggling a few SD's.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8ddc8dd0-a9fa-b0eb-b8b2-8ef51414bbfa[/URL]
Another one that's completely DTF with little to no boundaries.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/04fa4543-33db-495f-bf21-9356eff365a2[/URL]
More provider than SB, completely open but skills could be improved.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8b580f5d-aa92-4c8e-b9bc-19a1ebdbdb7a[/URL]
I dreamed of this woman. In my dream I sent her a message and she replied back with her number and asked me to text her?
I texted her and she said her age is 18 (profile says 19) and she needs to take care of her siblings since her parents are unable to work.
I'm kinda worried this might be a scam (I'm pretty new to this).
What do you guys think?
[QUOTE=GuardianSofva;4333461][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8b580f5d-aa92-4c8e-b9bc-19a1ebdbdb7a[/URL]
I dreamed of this woman. In my dream I sent her a message and she replied back with her number and asked me to text her?
I texted her and she said her age is 18 (profile says 19) and she needs to take care of her siblings since her parents are unable to work.
I'm kinda worried this might be a scam (I'm pretty new to this).
What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]She's "also not looking to hook up or anything of the sort!" which tells me she wants your money for nothing. I'd move on.
[QUOTE=GuardianSofva;4333461][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8b580f5d-aa92-4c8e-b9bc-19a1ebdbdb7a[/URL]
I dreamed of this woman. In my dream I sent her a message and she replied back with her number and asked me to text her?
I texted her and she said her age is 18 (profile says 19) and she needs to take care of her siblings since her parents are unable to work.
I'm kinda worried this might be a scam (I'm pretty new to this).
What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]If you're interested, I think you should try to move her offline and get her face to face. I take what they tell me via text with a grain of salt. Things change once you're face to face.
She is probably a scammer trying to play you with a sad story, Also her profile says no hookups so she trying to get money without doing anything. Move on there is plenty other girls on sa.
[QUOTE=GuardianSofva;4333461][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/8b580f5d-aa92-4c8e-b9bc-19a1ebdbdb7a[/URL]
I dreamed of this woman. In my dream I sent her a message and she replied back with her number and asked me to text her?
I texted her and she said her age is 18 (profile says 19) and she needs to take care of her siblings since her parents are unable to work.
I'm kinda worried this might be a scam (I'm pretty new to this).
What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]
Got to see Samantha this week. Muscular single mom in her late 20's or early 30's. One large stomach tatt. Met at her FC location which was a motel in Alexandria. Spent around $$$ but ended up staying for 30 minutes. During doggie I smelt a trace of poop, so quickly finished and got out of there. Overall she seems to be a nice girl but is super chatty. With the options available, don't plan on repeating.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0850a363-6c12-4d3a-801b-c4f743c7968d[/URL]