Geneva IL

[QUOTE=Revgtr;2883202]This is pretty hilarious.

[URL]http://www.dailyherald.com/article/20160419/news/160418623/[/URL]

"Because an undercover agent stopped a woman from performing a sexual act on him, and because he never gave her money for it.

No prostitution took place at the Main Spa massage business, an attorney for the business said Monday.

"What we are left with is just a conversation. That's not prostitution. Not in any court. It just does not cut it," Peter Lee told the St. Charles Liquor Commission at a hearing about whether the business should be fined or have its massage license suspended or.

Revoked. The commission advises the city council and mayor about licensing for liquor, tobacco and massage businesses.

Ok Kim, 62, of Chicago was charged with prostitution March 15. She is due in Kane County court Thursday.

Kim testified, through an interpreter, that she asked the agent *-- a civilian police worker *-- to disrobe and lie down. She denied negotiating a.

Price to perform sexual acts and said he grabbed her hand and touched it to his private parts. She said she did not remember if she asked him.

To turn on to his back, nor telling a detective after her arrest the prices for performing sex acts.

She also said she asked the agent if he had been there before, and he told her not for a while. She admitted to being arrested in Chicago on a.

Charge of prostitution but said she was found not guilty.

The agent said he rang a doorbell to be admitted and Kim was the only person there. He paid her $80 for a massage. She rubbed his shoulders, he said.

Then his buttocks, "vigorously" sliding a hand "extremely close" to his private parts. Kim told him to turn over, then massaged his upper inner thigh and.

Asked if he wanted his private area massaged. He said she spoke English.

He asked if she would perform oral sex, and she asked if he had a condom, using a code word, he said. She also asked how much money he had and.

Told him it would be $60 for hand stimulation and $100 for oral sex, he said.

The officer left and notified detectives nearby, who then arrested Kim.

A detective testified Kim spoke and understood English. She was able to tell them that she wanted to change her shoes, fill her dog's water bowl.

And get her cellphone before they took her to the police station. He showed a DVD of an interview at the station, during which she answered questions.

In English and admitted giving a price for a sex act, the detective said. It also appeared Kim was living at the business, he said.

Mayor Ray Rogina, the city's liquor commissioner, has until May 2 to rule.

Two other massage businesses were checked that day. At one, a woman was charged with practicing massage without a state license.

The owners pleaded guilty, the license was revoked, and it was fined $500 plus city costs. At the other, a woman was charged with prostitution.

That business has closed, and its license was revoked. ".[/QUOTE]I hope at this point noone trys to open there again, clearly the city is not going to tolerate any massage business there. No good comes from the negative attention.

I wonder if her trouble last year will hinder her efforts. I know things are forgotten over time and everyone moves on but conversations with a potential corporate client may get a little interesting.

[QUOTE=MarkLipper;2913118]Stopped in yesterday and saw string toy. She told me she has been saving money for years and that this is a legit spa catering to individuals, groups, birthday party's, corporate events and even has a ping pong space attached next door for parties or competition players. Wished her luck and left.[/QUOTE]

Its a really interesting phenomenon. I never met the woman. But if she is Chinese it fits into a pattern. People come to this country to escape their old life and make money. The Chinese attitude among 80% of the people (I am told) is "you do whatever it takes" to get by in America.

The ultimate dream (based on all the conversations I have ever had with Chinese women) is to own your own business and thereby get control of your own fate. I mentioned that in my Chicago post last night.

As this new business gets up and running, I'd expect her to play it straight. Why risk everything for a few bucks?

That said, I also think after a few months she might be friendly to a few friends that continue to patronize her new legit business, provided (a) you really are a friend to her, (b) you find a way to visit when nobody else is there, not even other workers. Perhaps off hours, (c) you say nothing about your visits to anybody, including this forum. That conversation would end everything for her and for you.

If she really is a sweet person, she deserves your patronage, even if all you get is a legit massage. Just like my post last night. You never know where it might lead. Bob.

[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2914009]I wonder if her trouble last year will hinder her efforts. I know things are forgotten over time and everyone moves on but conversations with a potential corporate client may get a little interesting.[/QUOTE]

First post here because I was just a lurker but I finally have a reason to post something useful info. I was recently at Gem Spa apparently the night before they got busted. The 22 year old girl was there and I got asked for her that night. Surprisingly, even after doing my research about.

How Gem can be hit or miss, she gave me a legit massage which was very good for a girl her size and proceeded to a HJ with no shirt on all for $85. I then asked her I haven't seen her before and when she would be here next and she went on to tell me that she had just started out.

At Gem and would be there every day of the week.

I think she really liked me in particular when she asked 'Do you like Chinese girl?' so she must have thought I was cute considering she has probably only been in the business for a few years and hasn't seen a lot of young men like myself come thru.

So the weirdest part about the 22 year olds mugshot is that I swear on my life she was wearing that same shirt on Wednesday night when she got her mug taken on Thursday afternoon.

Since it's my first time on here I've been to a few other places in the fox river area and be willing to share info if asked on the forum about any other AMPs or BP ads.

[QUOTE=Andy411;2913732]I think all the public discussion about the 3rd spa that was in the news trying to open possibly caused the city to care enough that legit or not may not have mattered actually.[/QUOTE]

First time post here, always was a lurker but now I have a reason to post. I was at Gem Spa Wednesday before the were busted on Thursday morning. I went in, despite reading reviews that they don't give extras, and to my surprise I asked for the younger girl there which turned out later to be the 22 year old girl.

In the mugshot. She gave a great massage, must have thought I was cute considering I am young and asked 'Do you like Chinese Girls? She then proceeded to give me a HJ with her top off all for $85 in damages. Got a nice shower too.

Weirdest thing about that mugshot was that I swear she was wearing the same shirt in the mugshot the night I got a massage making it that she wore it the next day. Ew.

Either way, I have some other stories of some AMPs in the fox valley area I just never have a reason to share them. Only if someone is wanting to know.

[QUOTE=Jlima;2913436]Man I think you're right, that is the girl from Ad spa.

I thought the places in Batavia were legit so never went. They are cracking down hard in that area![/QUOTE]

This forum is for sharing so if you have something to share please do.

[QUOTE=Bigsuprisse;2914699]First time post here, always was a lurker but now I have a reason to post. I was at Gem Spa Wednesday before the were busted on Thursday morning. I went in, despite reading reviews that they don't give extras, and to my surprise I asked for the younger girl there which turned out later to be the 22 year old girl.

In the mugshot. She gave a great massage, must have thought I was cute considering I am young and asked 'Do you like Chinese Girls? She then proceeded to give me a HJ with her top off all for $85 in damages. Got a nice shower too.

Weirdest thing about that mugshot was that I swear she was wearing the same shirt in the mugshot the night I got a massage making it that she wore it the next day. Ew.

Either way, I have some other stories of some AMPs in the fox valley area I just never have a reason to share them. Only if someone is wanting to know.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Bigsuprisse;2914699]First time post here, always was a lurker but now I have a reason to post. I was at Gem Spa Wednesday before the were busted on Thursday morning. I went in, despite reading reviews that they don't give extras, and to my surprise I asked for the younger girl there which turned out later to be the 22 year old girl.

In the mugshot. She gave a great massage, must have thought I was cute considering I am young and asked 'Do you like Chinese Girls? She then proceeded to give me a HJ with her top off all for $85 in damages. Got a nice shower too.

Weirdest thing about that mugshot was that I swear she was wearing the same shirt in the mugshot the night I got a massage making it that she wore it the next day. Ew.

Either way, I have some other stories of some AMPs in the fox valley area I just never have a reason to share them. Only if someone is wanting to know.[/QUOTE]I have noticed at some Spa's the women appear to live there and probably do not have a lot of clothing options. Having a couple of Chinese girlfriends overseas I also know they often tend to wash their clothes in the sink at night and wear them the next day. May not be as gross as you first suspected.

That's correct. My friends do that also. Wash at night. When they live in the spa, they only take one bag, with the rest of their possessions at a Chinese hotel. Probably only have a few things. If you get to know her well, you can take them shopping. Also you might be able to run a couple errands before work. Its something she will appreciate. Just remember, living onsite is forbidden, so don't be overt about acknowledging it. Bob.

[QUOTE=E6671;2915134]I have noticed at some Spa's the women appear to live there and probably do not have a lot of clothing options. Having a couple of Chinese girlfriends overseas I also know they often tend to wash their clothes in the sink at night and wear them the next day. May not be as gross as you first suspected.[/QUOTE]

"String Toy", who's own picture is on the ad, texted me today asking me to come in. I was thinking of doing so since she provided a good time in the past, but now I'm not so sure, seeing the comments here and seeing the ad. Maybe she's left the dark side of the force.

I find it hard to believe that this spa will start offering the "Geneva" treatment. The build out is one of a top notch, high end spa. Very expensive rent and first class facilities. I don't know why you would save your money for years, open a first rate spa only to eventually get busted. Again. Good luck to her. Hope it works out.

[QUOTE=MarkLipper;2917012]I find it hard to believe that this spa will start offering the "Geneva" treatment. The build out is one of a top notch, high end spa. Very expensive rent and first class facilities. I don't know why you would save your money for years, open a first rate spa only to eventually get busted. Again. Good luck to her. Hope it works out.[/QUOTE][URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-shangri-la-massage-spa-and-sauna-best-massage-in-st-charles/37420401[/URL] This whole thing is a bit strange. You would think if they were 100% legit, that they wouldn't be placing ad's on BP. SaintChuck.

They are also advertising on yelp. Go figure.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2922775][URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-shangri-la-massage-spa-and-sauna-best-massage-in-st-charles/37420401[/URL] This whole thing is a bit strange. You would think if they were 100% legit, that they wouldn't be placing ad's on BP. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2922775][URL]http://chicago.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-shangri-la-massage-spa-and-sauna-best-massage-in-st-charles/37420401[/URL] This whole thing is a bit strange. You would think if they were 100% legit, that they wouldn't be placing ad's on BP. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]More than a few legit spas advertise on BP, it's a cheap and widely accessed advertising platform. You should check out their web site, looks like a professionally done set-up.

[QUOTE=Castlerae;2923761]More than a few legit spas advertise on BP, it's a cheap and widely accessed advertising platform. You should check out their web site, looks like a professionally done set-up.[/QUOTE]Yes there are legit spas on BP, but I am fairly confident that the vast majority of people trolling through the ad's on BP aren't looking for a legit massage. If there is some woman who is upper middle class or upper class, I think it is safe to say that she won't be trolling BP looking for a place to book her next massage. My point was that when an AMP advertises on BP it gives them a certain label whether they are legit or not. I just thought that the owner would try and distance herself from the type of advertising that could get her thrown into a pool that she no longer want's to swim in. SaintChuck.

They also advertise on yelp that they accept insurance. This would be the first AMP I heard of that does that.

[QUOTE=SaintChuck;2924065]Yes there are legit spas on BP, but I am fairly confident that the vast majority of people trolling through the ad's on BP aren't looking for a legit massage. If there is some woman who is upper middle class or upper class, I think it is safe to say that she won't be trolling BP looking for a place to book her next massage. My point was that when an AMP advertises on BP it gives them a certain label whether they are legit or not. I just thought that the owner would try and distance herself from the type of advertising that could get her thrown into a pool that she no longer want's to swim in. SaintChuck.[/QUOTE]