Sugar Babies & Arrangements

[QUOTE=Nerd29;6441706]Gabriella23 - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2f1249a1-5edd-4e1c-aa9f-cc4e8731c6a3[/URL].

Smoking hot but wouldn't communicate via text until we met for dinner so put her on the backburner since I couldn't get details on ppm.

She is very hot. Wants 1 k ppm. We have gone offline and I have her ig. Keep working it.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the intel. I've been trying to stick to the 300 to 500 range on initial meets and it seems to be working so far. Once I find one or two that are keepers will probably see if I can negotiate it down to 200 to 300 per meet. I don't know if it's because I look relatively young for my age but there's been so many coming through I haven't been able to keep up. I can only see one or two a week so have the next few weeks booked. Once I figure which ones I'm keeping I'll post some reviews with links.

[QUOTE=RobbinHoodz;6437130]Here's just some info to help you not waste time. I have met none of these ladies, this is just what I've gathered from messaging them.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e36c624a-c7df-445c-9bd1-91f836c68b75[/URL]

Damselindistress. Said she wants 250 for first meeting, which is only a dinner date / no intimacy. 450 after that to include intimacy.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9fc9043d-64c6-45a5-93e0-f0c171d1bd4e[/URL]

Valentina. Gave me her number straight away. Says she does 700 ppm.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/fa5accde-9ba7-4fe3-8dc6-a040cc84fe0d[/URL]

TheSweetest. Gave me number and snap, sent some videos of her getting facefucked in a car. Says she's an exhibitionist, wants 300-500. Could probably talk her down lower. Might pull the trigger on this one because I love a nasty chick.[/QUOTE]I can 2nd the intel on Babexx. I met her about a yr ago and she is a total dead fish. At one point during doggie, she looks back and says, are you done yet? Save your time and money.

Weeded out some more timewasters and found a few repeatable to keep in my rotation for now.

Amoura - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1e7ae190-dbb0-4069-942e-a91f11952a11[/URL].

Looks amazing but just super rude and GPS. Asked me how much allowance I was willing to give and told her I prefer to start with ppm of 400 (she asked if that included intimacy) and I cover all expenses for dates. She got super offended by that and said she doesn't meet for less than 500 and that doesn't include intimacy and she was offended I would think that anyone would meet for intimacy at that price.

Cincybabe513 - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ba8855d7-1e8a-4340-9cb6-9198c4a3f396[/URL].

She flies in to work at the strip clubs in clearwater / st. Pete on weekends. Haven't been able to make it over to see her yet and she wants you to meet her there to discuss arrangements. She's been at Oasis Cabaret the last few times we tried to coordinate schedules.

Realtor - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7bede52f-b50d-4b24-aee4-09d282921325[/URL].

Seems friendly enough. She asked for 700 ppm to start but wasn't feeling it enough to take the plunge yet or try to negotiate lower with other options on the table.

Latinbarbie - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/952a0a33-0745-4f72-894f-283cc1190df6[/URL].

She reached out to me but I've also seen her profile on other dating sites with more pictures and info about her. She's a professional body builder which really isn't my thing but if its yours she wants 500 ppm. She seems eager though so pretty sure you can get it lower if you try.

TemptingPrincess - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/25f5a57c-d430-4841-a275-02e0b11659d4[/URL].

She reached out as well and splits time between Lakeland and St. Pete. Haven't gotten around to setting up time with her yet but said her ppm range is 500 to 700.

Mlos823 - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3ba579ed-4d30-4cdc-9c35-1c15157db954[/URL].

Followed up with her based on a previous post and still won't budge off 1000 ppm.

Rose_Tampa - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4a7f710b-ebe7-4c0b-9067-bc17fe0e4eb9[/URL].

Seems a little green and not good with math. Said she'd like to make 1000 to 1500 / month. I told her how about 300 ppm and we meet once a week. She said she was looking for 800 ppm. Told her I don't go higher than 500 ppm and she passed on meeting.

FierceMermaid - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/021bea7f-4d37-4f2e-a7f9-4e5556e534e0[/URL].

This one wants you to meet while she's working at Score's to break the ice. Won't give out a number till then and she's also not a dancer there.

Talie - [URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ea0e10f4-855f-45d5-8e40-a55b8a033165[/URL].

Had a good time with her. She's direct and can host out in Westshore. Wanted 500 ppm but agreed on 400 ppm as long as we didn't go over 2 hours. Wants you to come over to her place and bring a bottle of wine so you can get comfortable and see if there's a connection before moving on to the bedroom. She's very cautious and everything is covered. We seemed to hit it off and I think on repeat visits you could push boundaries a bit more if she's into you. She mentioned she's got a couple friends that are also on seeking and I think one of them may be FierceMermaid cause she tried to get me to go over to Scores with her to hang out and to meet her friend after we were finished but I was spent for the night and passed. I don't think she'll be a regular but definitely a good in case of emergency option if nothing else pans out.

Have two others that may be my keep in my rotation ones for now so I'll post about them later on when I'm ready to phase them out.

Hope this helps you guys out a bit.

Katie from SA Anyone have any intel on her? Her first message was asking me if I was interested in a 3 some. I responded "not really, 2 x the price and usually over-rated. " Next message a week later was a very long sob story. I think I've seen her a while back but an intel would be good.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/36bfd04c-cce4-49f0-9f6f-1fed2aa8b580[/URL]

[QUOTE=DocPlays;6466917]Katie from SA Anyone have any intel on her? Her first message was asking me if I was interested in a 3 some. I responded "not really, 2 x the price and usually over-rated. " Next message a week later was a very long sob story. I think I've seen her a while back but an intel would be good.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/36bfd04c-cce4-49f0-9f6f-1fed2aa8b580[/URL][/QUOTE]I know I'm still new to this SA stuff and I haven't come across her but it sounds like you'll be disappointed in the long run. Girls that desperate to make a buck usually aren't worth the price of admission (whatever it is) and are just using you more so than they all are.

[QUOTE=Tbrayj1987;6464681]Weeded out some more timewasters and found a few repeatable to keep in my rotation for now.


Hope this helps you guys out a bit.[/QUOTE]This helps a lot, you have great taste!!

Blondeadventure123.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/91b31610-e8b0-4e03-b837-a6f50b997b94[/URL]

Smokin Hot with a british accent to boot. We traded a couple of texts and then about 10 pm she asks if I'm still up and that she could come meet me now. She started with 400? And I got her to drop it to 300 just by asking. But I am glad I asked for the conditions. Everything is covered including a BJ. I told her that this wasn't going to work for me as it would only result in a HJ. But she was pleasant about it.

SupaFreak.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9bfce974-3a62-4827-8be5-4edb287bccff[/URL]

A very funny Asain that will let you know she is only interested in the size of your wallet. Wants 1100.

Cutie693.

Sorry but she blocked me. She wants to meet for lunch or dinner and 500 the 1st time. I politely let her know that I was looking for something mutually beneficial and this was one sided. She responded by saying OK then go F**k off. And blocked me. A real bad attitude for sure.

White Latina.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f07f65aa-891e-4c32-9b37-05b6a02af56a[/URL]

She has another profile on here also. She was very nice and easy to talk to. We hit it off well and I thought I was going to be able to really help her in her desire to start her business. I am in the industry and have helped 100's of girls just like her. But that soon faded. She was firm at 500 covered and I told her I was equally as firm at 300. (I never go above 300 unless it is extraordinary and I'm out of other options which is very rare).

Letstravel22.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f04f2628-7eb8-4f6b-9432-386f1e155d10[/URL]

Very nice and easy to talk to. She said the lowest she could go is 450.

Time Wasters:

These are 1 pic profiles. I hate these and always smell a fake. Anymore I only click on them to F**k with them about providing another pic.

Wildrose332.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/02e081c6-dd85-428d-b837-e2f8b1e6ac1f[/URL]

HotGeek.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/21142585-8ca9-4da8-ac69-aacd59ff0dda[/URL]

[QUOTE=RobbinHoodz;6434605]Link says "profile not available" for me. Anyone else getting similar?[/QUOTE]Is there a new profile for her that you can link to? She sounds like dream.

[QUOTE=RobbinHoodz;6439400]I have it on my profile that my expectation for a first meeting is coffee / lunch to gauge chemistry. If they try to shift that into "let's go to $$$ place tonight instead" I tell them I reserve my evenings for other things - "I'm willing to make some schedule shifts to accommodate your availability, but realistically this is a 'get-to-know' you experience and I find that happens best sober, in the daytime. If that isn't what you're looking for, I wish you the best of luck in your search. ".

That tends to weed out the serious ones from the women who just want to use your card to pay for a nice meal and bail.[/QUOTE]And do you compensate for the "get to know you"/ meet and great? I'm assuming no if it doesn't move forward to a private setting. I have girls that ask 125 $ just for that.

[QUOTE=Toulou31;6472170]And do you compensate for the "get to know you"/ meet and great? I'm assuming no if it doesn't move forward to a private setting. I have girls that ask 125 $ just for that.[/QUOTE]Only if you feel like wasting your $$.

Generally speaking a serious SB will never ask for pay for a meet and greet, only girls who never plan on taking things further do that.

The only exception to that rule would be going for some shopping together. And by then she should be flashing you from the dressing room at least.

The problem with all of this is that there is two schools of thought:

-the game is about paying a girl to go away after sex.

-actually finding someone you hit it off with, who can suck start a jet engine, and who can't wait for you to rip their clothes off.

If you try to hurry things and tend to go down the first route, you are much more likely to run into girls that just want to get what they can and split.

I have said this time and time again, even if it 'only just a SB', take your time! Get to know them a little. LISTEN to what they say, and appreciate their words. You don't have to fall in love, but make it look like you give a shit. With only a modest bit of effort there is no reason why you can't get a SB to WANT to meet you in the bathroom for some fun after the drink order is made. Let alone going home afterwards. BUT BUT BUT. This is too much like dating. Yeah, if you are a middle age man who has bagged a few girls who have been in playboy, or regularly finds college freshmen who don't even care about the money and just want a man who isn't an immature frat guy, and will fuck them till they can't walk straight now that they are out from under mommy and daddys overwatchfull eyes. Then yeah. It's exactly like dating.

SA used to be a goldmine before the says of OF. Not just 10 out of 10's, but 11 out of 10's all over the place. It's not as easy these days, but if you put in some effort, it is still an amazing resource for those who want to 'date up'.

Right. I totally agree with your post. I do put some effort and have been quite successful so far. Just recently rejoined and saw the behavior more often than not. I'm not too worried.

[QUOTE=Abcxyz1234;6472422]Only if you feel like wasting your $$.

Generally speaking a serious SB will never ask for pay for a meet and greet, only girls who never plan on taking things further do that.

The only exception to that rule would be going for some shopping together. And by then she should be flashing you from the dressing room at least.

The problem with all of this is that there is two schools of thought:

-the game is about paying a girl to go away after sex.

-actually finding someone you hit it off with, who can suck start a jet engine, and who can't wait for you to rip their clothes off.

If you try to hurry things and tend to go down the first route, you are much more likely to run into girls that just want to get what they can and split.

I have said this time and time again, even if it 'only just a SB', take your time! Get to know them a little. LISTEN to what they say, and appreciate their words. You don't have to fall in love, but make it look like you give a shit. With only a modest bit of effort there is no reason why you can't get a SB to WANT to meet you in the bathroom for some fun after the drink order is made.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Toulou31;6472438]Right. I totally agree with your post. I do put some effort and have been quite successful so far. Just recently rejoined and saw the behavior more often than not. I'm not too worried.[/QUOTE]For the record, most of my little minirant there was just intended as general advice for all. .

[QUOTE=DocPlays;6470518]Blondeadventure123.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/91b31610-e8b0-4e03-b837-a6f50b997b94[/URL]

Smokin Hot with a british accent to boot. We traded a couple of texts and then about 10 pm she asks if I'm still up and that she could come meet me now. She started with 400? And I got her to drop it to 300 just by asking. But I am glad I asked for the conditions. Everything is covered including a BJ. I told her that this wasn't going to work for me as it would only result in a HJ. But she was pleasant about it.

SupaFreak.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9bfce974-3a62-4827-8be5-4edb287bccff[/URL]

A very funny Asain that will let you know she is only interested in the size of your wallet. Wants 1100.

Cutie693.

Sorry but she blocked me. She wants to meet for lunch or dinner and 500 the 1st time. I politely let her know that I was looking for something mutually beneficial and this was one sided. She responded by saying OK then go F**k off. And blocked me. A real bad attitude for sure.

White Latina.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/f07f65aa-891e-4c32-9b37-05b6a02af56a[/URL][/QUOTE]Thanks for the report Doc. Saved me the trouble of dealing with White Latina and Superfreak who reached out. Did you happen to find out if BlondeAdventure could host? Can be such a pain crossing the bay that I've been skipping anyone who can't host on the St Pete side.

[QUOTE=Abcxyz1234;6472730]For the record, most of my little minirant there was just intended as general advice for all. .[/QUOTE]For someone that's only been using SA for six weeks or so the info shared on this forum has been invaluable. I've been using the advice RobbinHoodz shared and its helped immensely in making girls feel comfortable with me right from the get go. I always set the expectation that there's no commitment on the first meet up other than to see what our personal chemistry is like so that it takes the pressure off the situation even if you've already discussed details on what type of arrangement or benefits they would like. If they ask about expectations afterwards leave it open ended that if you hit it off and you both don't want things to end you can take it from there but it's not an expectation.

Abcxyz1234 is spot on with his advice and its an appreciated minirant. Anyone that asks for cash for a meet and greet or has too many rules and caveats is a waste of time. Girls that just want pay for play or to be "Spoiled" with extravagant lifestyles will make it obvious from the get go. If you want the real gems you have to treat SA just like a dating site and act like a mature confident adult and not a fuckboy. If you do that the regular girls who just want some financial support, to be treated to a nice time that guys their age can't afford to and get some good dick will be falling all over themselves to go home with you. So far they seem like the best ones to me and its worth the extra effort like Abcxyz1234 said. A lot of them seem to be looking for a good guy that they can latch onto and will honestly be pushing to go home with you if they see you as somebody they don't want to lose out on to someone else you might see after them.

One thing I have noticed that can be frustrating just like dating sites are girls flaking at the last minute. For the girls that are new to this they get anxiety sometimes when it comes to meeting up for the first time so be patient and understanding if it's someone you really want to tag. It can go a really long way when you finally do meet but be ready to cut them loose if it happens more than once. Another thing that goes a long way that should be nominal is offer to pay for their Ubers. If they spent their own money to get to a meet up with you and didn't ask for anything it makes them more appreciative that you'll be good to them in the long run.

Hope my two cents as a newbie helps and really appreciate the advice from the Senior Members. It may not be the same as it used to be but damn sure seems better than what's posted in the escort forum.

[QUOTE=BobbyBobert;6181537]Anyone met with her? She seemed pretty keen to meet with her initiating the messages, sometimes that can indicate she is a pro but she looks good.[/QUOTE]Same here. Did you end up meeting with her? Anyone else has intel?