Anyone able to give me some info about the Toy Chest on Ford Rd? Girls? $$$ DM works. Thanks.
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Anyone able to give me some info about the Toy Chest on Ford Rd? Girls? $$$ DM works. Thanks.
[QUOTE=SlyGuy12;4028703]I've never posted here, I'm from the other side of the state, but many moons ago, after getting out of the service I worked as a bouncer at a strip club. Normally we didn't bother the clientele unless one of the girls gave us a sign. We had a new guy and he was always harassing people, third night on the job he shined his light into a booth where the girl was sitting and talking to the guy (probably negotiating) the guy came out of that booth and broke his jaw, and nose and after he fell the kicked him and broke two of his ribs. I got over there expecting, but not wanting, a fight with him. He put his hands up, and apologized and said the bouncer had been screwing with him all night. The guy still got arrested, but when the bouncer came back to work (with his jaw wired shut) he was a lot less of a dick to people. Moral of the story is if the bouncer at Legends is a dick to the wrong guy, he will probably get a whooping.[/QUOTE]Very thought provoking. So the guy got arrested, had to hire an attorney, maybe got a felony because an over zealous bouncer was annoying him.
Hey I'm new here joined up to get some info. Went to H8 N about a week ago and saw a dancer named April. Blonde about 5'7, smokin bod and sexy asf. Anybody know about her? Any extras? Thanks.
[QUOTE=Godfather9;4029893]Anyone able to give me some info about the Toy Chest on Ford Rd? Girls? $$$ DM works. Thanks.[/QUOTE]They have changed since the last time I was there the VIP area was changed not as private and YMMV with girls. Better options available at BT's.
[QUOTE=WesJ96;4031211]They have changed since the last time I was there the VIP area was changed not as private and YMMV with girls. Better options available at BT's.[/QUOTE]I know some don't keep up, but FYI, Toy Chest is a black club now (which isn't an issue for me, but some may not know). Check their instagram if you want an idea of what to expect: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/toychest313/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Wleakr;4031318]I know some don't keep up, but FYI, Toy Chest is a black club now (which isn't an issue for me, but some may not know). Check their instagram if you want an idea of what to expect: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/toychest313/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks will check it out next time in town.
Went Monday to Coliseum. Had a couple drinks. Shot girl once. Coat check. VIP tip. VIP dance. Let me add this up.
$8 valet.
$2 coat check.
Drinks / tip $25.
Shot girl $10.
VIP tip $20.
VIP girl $200.
Damn. $255 for about an hour and a half. They sure know how to get your cash.
Anyway VIP with Baby. Probably a dozen girls there. Waitress and bartender were really hot. VIP. GFE. BBBJ. Didn't make it to FS but I'm sure it was available. Tried some upselling which I am getting very annoyed with. Pretty good time. It's just getting really expensive. When you add it all up. Happy hunting my friends.
Stopped at Bogies last night for a short spell. Veda was there, and it was my first time encountering her. She's pretty bad. We went back for a sample with slightly high prices. She says she works on 8 Mile and in Vegas. I can see that.
Then I went back there with Aliyah, a slightly bigger brunette. Her prices were 100,200,and 300, so I demurred.
About a dozen women working. A couple others I wanted to take in back too, including a pretty black woman with a name that started with are (Renata?) and a woman's name that started with an L, but she had to correct me on it once. She's more petite and has a little bit of sass to her.
Decent night. Should have made it in to see how the day crew was faring.
[QUOTE=XaDudeX;4034205]Stopped at Bogies last night for a short spell. Veda was there, and it was my first time encountering her. She's pretty bad. We went back for a sample with slightly high prices. She says she works on 8 Mile and in Vegas. I can see that.
Then I went back there with Aliyah, a slightly bigger brunette. Her prices were 100,200,and 300, so I demurred.
About a dozen women working. A couple others I wanted to take in back too, including a pretty black woman with a name that started with are (Renata?) and a woman's name that started with an L, but she had to correct me on it once. She's more petite and has a little bit of sass to her.
Decent night. Should have made it in to see how the day crew was faring.[/QUOTE]I was in Bogies three weeks ago and had a good covered BJ session with a couple warm up dances with Reneta for $. I recommend.
[QUOTE=MichiganMan686;4034066]Went Monday to Coliseum. Had a couple drinks. Shot girl once. Coat check. VIP tip. VIP dance. Let me add this up.
$8 valet.
$2 coat check.
Drinks / tip $25.
Shot girl $10.
VIP tip $20.
VIP girl $200.
Damn. $255 for about an hour and a half. They sure know how to get your cash.
Anyway VIP with Baby. Probably a dozen girls there. Waitress and bartender were really hot. VIP. GFE. BBBJ. Didn't make it to FS but I'm sure it was available. Tried some upselling which I am getting very annoyed with. Pretty good time. It's just getting really expensive. When you add it all up. Happy hunting my friends.[/QUOTE]Your math is a bit off but none the less it is expensive for sure. That is why I stay to SA. Much better deals with much better college girls.
[QUOTE=XaDudeX;4034205]Stopped at Bogies last night for a short spell. Veda was there, and it was my first time encountering her. She's pretty bad. We went back for a sample with slightly high prices. She says she works on 8 Mile and in Vegas. I can see that.
Then I went back there with Aliyah, a slightly bigger brunette. Her prices were 100,200,and 300, so I demurred.
About a dozen women working. A couple others I wanted to take in back too, including a pretty black woman with a name that started with are (Renata?) and a woman's name that started with an L, but she had to correct me on it once. She's more petite and has a little bit of sass to her.
Decent night. Should have made it in to see how the day crew was faring.[/QUOTE]I'd like to reiterate that "bad" in this case is the positive one. Veda looks and sounds like a very fun time.
Aliyah's prices were much higher than Veda's, which I thought was funny.
[QUOTE=DogSun;4034451]I was in Bogies three weeks ago and had a good covered BJ session with a couple warm up dances with Reneta for $. I recommend.[/QUOTE]Well, who doesn't like to be gobbled during the holiday season?
[QUOTE=XaDudeX;4035535]Well, who doesn't like to be gobbled during the holiday season?[/QUOTE]Probably most turkeys if you could ask them.
HTG.
RT88.
[QUOTE=XaDudeX;4035532]I'd like to reiterate that "bad" in this case is the positive one. Veda looks and sounds like a very fun time.
Aliyah's prices were much higher than Veda's, which I thought was funny.[/QUOTE]I'm visiting your fun town for the holiday, where is this bar located? I'd appreciate any info about Bogies. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=IGiveVitaminD;4035661]I'm visiting your fun town for the holiday, where is this bar located? I'd appreciate any info about Bogies. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Bogart's. Michigan Avenue. Inkster.
A bit of a dive bar, and some of the pickings can be slim. Tuesday is $10 dance day, so if you want to see how she is before making more of an investment, that's a good way to do that. Their sister club, Henry VIII is pretty close by. Their $10 dance day is Monday. Both are dive bars.
Further east on Michigan Avenue is Silver Cricket, in Dearborn. That's probably a step up and if you don't like to smell like an ashtray, probably the place to be.
[QUOTE=Natefarwell;4035286]Your math is a bit off but none the less it is expensive for sure. That is why I stay to SA. Much better deals with much better college girls.[/QUOTE]Help a fellow monger out with SA. It seems the up charge is really the worst part. I had a fixed price then half way through the price goes up.
Really getting annoyed with that. If you get time for a few tips on SA please pm me. I'll try to learn to add in the meantime. Happy hunting my friends.
[QUOTE=IGiveVitaminD;4035661]I'm visiting your fun town for the holiday, where is this bar located? I'd appreciate any info about Bogies. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]Let me add that Monday is a bad day for boggies because everyone is at Henry's on Monday. As you leave Henry's or boggies you can get a free pass to the other club. Food is great at bogies, and good at the cricket. Henry's has no food.
[QUOTE=Wleakr;4031318]I know some don't keep up, but FYI, Toy Chest is a black club now (which isn't an issue for me, but some may not know). Check their instagram if you want an idea of what to expect: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/toychest313/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks. Going to have to try it out!
[QUOTE=Wleakr;4031318]I know some don't keep up, but FYI, Toy Chest is a black club now (which isn't an issue for me, but some may not know). Check their instagram if you want an idea of what to expect: [URL]https://www.instagram.com/toychest313/[/URL].[/QUOTE]Thanks. Going to have to try it out!
They had six dancers (four 7's and two 6's) with ten customers when I arrived. Below is a run-down of the talent present.
Alejandra: Latino, dyed blonde hair, natural C-cup tits, nice booty, early 30's, a 7.
Candy: Caucasian, dyed red hair, slender build, 20 ish, a 7. 75. I enjoyed a GFE session with her two months ago for 120.
Cheyanne: Caucasian, red hair, slenderish build, mid 20's, a 7. I enjoyed a GFE session with her earlier this year for 120.
Shauna: Caucasian, dark hair, overweight, mid 20's, a 6.
Slim: African American, dark hair, thin, early 20's, a 7. 5. My buddy took her to the VIP last month and she requested the funding upfront. Despite that, he indicated that it was a good all-covered half & half session.
Venus: Latino, curly dark hair, overweight, early 20's, a 6.
I enjoyed a half & half session with Alejandra for 130. The first half was uncovered. Recommended.
Repeat of JJs report same lineup my same type session with alenjrda was 140 total. Bouncer tried upcharge of big VIP couch to 40. Wasn't going for that he said in the future. Candy was not budging off 200. Was going to do Cheyenne but Alejndra caught my eye highly recommend.
Hit up the Criket on Saturday night in search of someone specific. When she wasn't working I settled on Hunter, an AA with natural C / ds and some curves. Dances were good but when it came to extras she asked if I had a hat and when I said no and that a CBJ wouldn't do it for me she tried to charge me $$ when we had been back there for maybe 4-5 songs. I paid her $, then gave an extra. 25 when she insisted it was 6 songs. Then walked out of the VIP. Very disappointing after all the good things I have heard. I'll hold out for who I go in looking for next time.
Stopped in BT's Dearborn last night and had a good time with Casandra. Very good BBBJ with DT and CIM. Damage was $. 2 + a small tip. Will repeat.
[QUOTE=DonnyBrasco;4038021]Hit up the Criket on Saturday night in search of someone specific. When she wasn't working I settled on Hunter, an AA with natural C / ds and some curves. Dances were good but when it came to extras she asked if I had a hat and when I said no and that a CBJ wouldn't do it for me she tried to charge me $$ when we had been back there for maybe 4-5 songs. I paid her $, then gave an extra. 25 when she insisted it was 6 songs. Then walked out of the VIP. Very disappointing after all the good things I have heard. I'll hold out for who I go in looking for next time.[/QUOTE]On many occasions you run across girls that don't do extra's. If this happens I'll negotiate a nude dance which gives me better access to everything. I'll also insist on a HJ while the girls are dancing. Almost all girls are ok with the nude part, others balk at my insistance that little SL be out during the dance and a HJ be given. Some want to know how much extra I pay for the HJ to which I say nada. I'll say if the dances are good we keep going, if they are bad I bail. I've had girls that try to charge extra after the song because I was eating them out to which I say 'sorry we didn't agree upon any extra charges'. Girl climbs up on the seat and puts her pussy in my face (or lets me spread her legs and dive in) then that's just part of the dance. Don't tip, their tip is getting more dances. Some girls are so new to the scene they assume the HJ is for the entire set of songs, had one new girl who wouldn't take her hand off of my dick the entire 4 songs.
Briefly.
Jaime, small A cup, nice cute but, wearing the calvin klein underwear: Very cute and giving. Had a VIP dance in the back. Not sure how detailed to get here but I will say extras on the menu and they were enjoyed.
Ricky? Brunette but died her har orange (needs to go back to black) she would have a good faruzia balk look going on. No Extras available.
Francesca: amazing body but no extras on the menu. Did enjoy having her nipples played with. Smelled gret.
Beth: First girl I had, high milage body but you know, she still knows how to work it. Extra available but did not partake.
Just to report back my bad experience at cricket on last Monday. I was there at the night shift. All girls are hot. A lot of 8's or 7's per my standard.
The problem came when the negotiation started. I talked to few girls (one mid eastern looking girl named Tiffany and one Caucasian girl named Snow and other one I didn't get the name) and they all said extras are available but I have to negotiate with them in the back room.
Took snow, had couple songs. Didn't agree with the price or I let her go after several dances. Then talked to Tiffany she said 200 for CBJ. I agreed. Then I made a big mistake there by paying her ahead. During the dances, she just kept doing the regular dances and talked me my time was up for the 200. I asked where was our agreement and she said the bouncer would catch us if she did it. Balabalabala. Bullshit.
So I left cricket with blue balls. The damage was something I don't even want to think about it.
Went to bogart to release the load with a lady in her 50's I think for. 1.
Just to be careful when you go to cricket. I don't know why maybe it is because Monday.
What's my mistake you guys think?
[QUOTE=JamesTheSloth;4039564]What's my mistake you guys think?[/QUOTE]Never pay the girl ahead of time unless you are very very well known and regarded in the club.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;4040014]Never pay the girl ahead of time unless you are very very well known and regarded in the club.[/QUOTE]I thought I knew the club well enough but the ladies are always one step smarter (trickier) than I am.
I guess they are just like other business, new tricks are developed every day.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;4040014]Never pay the girl ahead of time unless you are very very well known and regarded in the club.[/QUOTE]Never pay the girl in advance, NO MATTER WHAT. I've NEVER had a good session from a girl who asked for payment up front. Sometimes they ask for payment in advance, I say no, then they say ok, you can pay after. I say no thanks, I'm not in the mood, and I WALK OUT. If I was back there less than 30 seconds, I PAY NOTHING.
If it's been more than 30 seconds I pay for 1 song, $10 or $20. They'll say they've had guys not pay them. The main reason guys don't want to pay is because the service was bad, NONE of the girls with good service ask for payment in advance. The secret to ANY negotiation is don't be afraid to walk out. I don't ask for a refund for the wristband. That way the bouncer tends to be on my side. The bouncers notice which girls always whine about getting paid. If the girl does get the bouncer involved, just say you changed your mind, she had too many rules. If you are known at the club, they know you don't cum and run.
[QUOTE=JamesTheSloth;4039564]Just to report back my bad experience at cricket on last Monday. I was there at the night shift. All girls are hot. A lot of 8's or 7's per my standard.
The problem came when the negotiation started. I talked to few girls (one mid eastern looking girl named Tiffany and one Caucasian girl named Snow and other one I didn't get the name) and they all said extras are available but I have to negotiate with them in the back room.
Took snow, had couple songs. Didn't agree with the price or I let her go after several dances. Then talked to Tiffany she said 200 for CBJ. I agreed. Then I made a big mistake there by paying her ahead. During the dances, she just kept doing the regular dances and talked me my time was up for the 200. I asked where was our agreement and she said the bouncer would catch us if she did it. Balabalabala. Bullshit.
So I left cricket with blue balls. The damage was something I don't even want to think about it.
Went to bogart to release the load with a lady in her 50's I think for. 1.
Just to be careful when you go to cricket. I don't know why maybe it is because Monday.
What's my mistake you guys think?[/QUOTE]Sorry to hear that bro. As other guys posted, always negotiate / pay afterwards. If you're going to spend $$ at Criket, my suggestion is to either hit up Flight Club or Landing Strip. You'll have a great time for either $ or $. 5. don't be too upset though bro. Its happened to all of us before. Now you know for next time.
[QUOTE=JamesTheSloth;4039564]What's my mistake you guys think?[/QUOTE]1) Never pay first, I don't care if you own the bar. Don't do it!
2) Never negotiate in the back, always do it at the table. I'll never understand why guys pay for 2 or 3 songs ($50 to $75 plus VIP tax) to find out it's not going to work out. How are you going to fuck a girl for $100 if you just gave her $50 for doing nothing.
3) Stop going after the hottest girl in the club, you need to walk before you run.
4) Don't be afraid to walk away (go home without any fun), too many guys just go for it and "hope" things will go well. Hoping things will go well will get you no where.
5) Remember your mistakes and don't do them twice, again hoping things will go well will get you no where.
Recent news is that 2 GM plants in Detroit are closing -- this will also have a trickle down effect. Could some Chrysler & Ford plants in Michigan close too? Is the plant off 8 mile road a Chrysler or GM plant?
I have found the blue collar guys with better paying jobs (construction, high-end factory, truck driver) tend to be the best spenders in the club. Of course guys with $100 k plus jobs can spend good but that's 5-7% of the population & probably 2-3% in the upper Midwest outside of Chicago.
I just see a lot of clubs failing in upcoming years.
[QUOTE=Rainman5000;4040597]Recent news is that 2 GM plants in Detroit are closing -- this will also have a trickle down effect. Could some Chrysler & Ford plants in Michigan close too? Is the plant off 8 mile road a Chrysler or GM plant?
I have found the blue collar guys with better paying jobs (construction, high-end factory, truck driver) tend to be the best spenders in the club. Of course guys with $100 k plus jobs can spend good but that's 5-7% of the population & probably 2-3% in the upper Midwest outside of Chicago.
[b]I just see a lot of clubs failing in upcoming years[/b].[/QUOTE]If they didn't fail back in 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, they won't fail in the years to come.
[QUOTE=Checkers123;4040277]1) Never pay first, I don't care if you own the bar. Don't do it!
2) Never negotiate in the back, always do it at the table. I'll never understand why guys pay for 2 or 3 songs ($50 to $75 plus VIP tax) to find out it's not going to work out. How are you going to fuck a girl for $100 if you just gave her $50 for doing nothing.
3) Stop going after the hottest girl in the club, you need to walk before you run.
4) Don't be afraid to walk away (go home without any fun), too many guys just go for it and "hope" things will go well. Hoping things will go well will get you no where.
5) Remember your mistakes and don't do them twice, again hoping things will go well will get you no where.[/QUOTE]Great points! A couple other items. I Do not let the first girl or two who comes over glom onto me. Oh they will try. Watch the first set of dances then choose. By RTFF here you'll learn names if your not a regular. Be a customer and follow the rules set by others on this board. Lastly do not csuse GPS by over paying!!
Play safe!
[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;4040191]Never pay the girl in advance, NO MATTER WHAT. I've NEVER had a good session from a girl who asked for payment up front. Sometimes they ask for payment in advance, I say no, then they say ok, you can pay after. I say no thanks, I'm not in the mood, and I WALK OUT. If I was back there less than 30 seconds, I PAY NOTHING.
If it's been more than 30 seconds I pay for 1 song, $10 or $20. They'll say they've had guys not pay them. The main reason guys don't want to pay is because the service was bad, NONE of the girls with good service ask for payment in advance. The secret to ANY negotiation is don't be afraid to walk out. I don't ask for a refund for the wristband. That way the bouncer tends to be on my side. The bouncers notice which girls always whine about getting paid. If the girl does get the bouncer involved, just say you changed your mind, she had too many rules. If you are known at the club, they know you don't cum and run.[/QUOTE]There's always an exception to the rule. Anyone remember Rocky who used to work at coliseum? Did her in the back and had to pre pay. The only time I ever did it.
Any other average girl asks I'll show them the green if we've already negotiated and they are worth a shot.
[QUOTE=Rainman5000;4040597]Recent news is that 2 GM plants in Detroit are closing -- this will also have a trickle down effect. Could some Chrysler & Ford plants in Michigan close too? Is the plant off 8 mile road a Chrysler or GM plant?
I have found the blue collar guys with better paying jobs (construction, high-end factory, truck driver) tend to be the best spenders in the club. Of course guys with $100 k plus jobs can spend good but that's 5-7% of the population & probably 2-3% in the upper Midwest outside of Chicago.
I just see a lot of clubs failing in upcoming years.[/QUOTE]I'd have to agree with you. Somebody else mentioned the clubs survived the Great Recession of 2009 but didn't GM get a huge bailout for that? That means lots of autoworkers still had steady paychecks. Those days are over, and also remember how many support industries are going to take a major hit once the factories shut down. Truckers, machinists, warehousers, etc all those guys will lose jobs too. Most of those people aren't going to stick around Detroit and get Walmart jobs.
My guess is that some of the cheaper, blue-collar clubs will close. The ritzier clubs will be able to stay open because of the horny doctors and dentists in the area still pulling down a nice salary, not to mention all the businessmen coming into town looking for a fancy club to hang out at.
[QUOTE=StripperLover;4041026]There's always an exception to the rule. Anyone remember Rocky who used to work at coliseum? [b]Did her in the back and had to pre pay[/b]. The only time I ever did it.
Any other average girl asks I'll show them the green if we've already negotiated and they are worth a shot.[/QUOTE]StripperLover, out of all the men that post on this forum I have a ton of respect for you as a strip club monger. But IMHO (on principle alone) I would have walked as soon as Rocky told me "I had to pay first." This is what I mean by guys just going for it and hoping for the best. I don't care how well known you are at the club, the club is going to tell you there's nothing we can do about it. They are not going to "force" her to pay you back, and they sure as hell are not going to force her to provide services she agreed to.
Now aside from all that we are trying to give a new monger some advice, it's best to keep it simple. He needs a basic set of rules with no "exception," that may confuse him.
[QUOTE=HapHunter;4040699]Great points! A couple other items. I Do not let the first girl or two who comes over glom onto me. Oh they will try. Watch the first set of dances then choose. By RTFF here you'll learn names if your not a regular. Be a customer and follow the rules set by others on this board. Lastly do not csuse GPS by over paying!!
Play safe![/QUOTE]Hap Hunter has a good point, don't rush it.
[QUOTE=Checkers123;4040277]1) Never pay first, I don't care if you own the bar. Don't do it!
2) Never negotiate in the back, always do it at the table. I'll never understand why guys pay for 2 or 3 songs ($50 to $75 plus VIP tax) to find out it's not going to work out. How are you going to fuck a girl for $100 if you just gave her $50 for doing nothing.
3) Stop going after the hottest girl in the club, you need to walk before you run.
4) Don't be afraid to walk away (go home without any fun), too many guys just go for it and "hope" things will go well. Hoping things will go well will get you no where.
5) Remember your mistakes and don't do them twice, again hoping things will go well will get you no where.[/QUOTE]6) Go on a slow night / day and take your time. Go in with the mindset that you're just going to have a beer or two and enjoy the show (no extras). Going on a Friday or Saturday night is going to be harder to get a dancers attention because the club is so busy.
If I'm looking for someone specific, will they tell me if she's there if I call? I'm up for work by 5-6 am most days so staying out late on a weeknight only to come up empty is not all that appealing. Thanks!