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[QUOTE=Thumperforq]His real problem is he took advice from a ROB KBG (H411), who advised him to hold hands and have conversation instead of ground and pound.[/quote]You can do anykind you like with one BG...just no get involved; business only. BGs are masters of deception and award winning actresses to the uninformed.
How you think one immigrant from one third-world country can become bar owner? Somebody (sucker) probably gave them the money or co-sign on the legals in exchange for whatever.
Lucky them, poor us.
[QUOTE=Octohd]Anyone with the 411 I've heard that place is busy now from Monday, Tuesday and last night. Been working late so I couldn't check it out for myself. It's on Keeamoku street where the strip bar was before. Asked the guy that always sells food in all the bars and he said it was busy.
Anyone one experienced it yet?[/QUOTE]
It was crappy. Most of the women have been around for a while like Shinni from Business and Chanel from Yokohama. Mimi needs the girls to come back from Korea.
[QUOTE=Wn5912]Short hair, long hair? 30's 40's or 50's??[/QUOTE]Short hair is always in a ponytail, about mid to late 30's.
[QUOTE=Octohd]Anyone with the 411 I've heard that place is busy now from Monday, Tuesday and last night. Been working late so I couldn't check it out for myself. It's on Keeamoku street where the strip bar was before. Asked the guy that always sells food in all the bars and he said it was busy.
Anyone one experienced it yet?[/QUOTE]Stopped by tonight to scope out the place. Really well done renovation of centerfolds, it used to be a dump. The bar tender said the place wasn't 100% complete and should have extra rooms up and running soon. Girls were ok, recognized a bunch from business. Including a hot young one that I took home couple years back. She's looking hot as hell, with her racks on display. Definitely will play when the price is right. Besides that there were a couple of old k girls and white girls as well, if that's what your in too. Probably be back next week to see if there are any new girls.
[QUOTE=Suckondis] they have no other choice at the time.[/QUOTE]everyone have a choice anytime. she can get a regular job wtf. don't be blinded by bg story. choice is a test in life.
[QUOTE=Octohd]Anyone with the 411 I've heard that place is busy now from Monday, Tuesday and last night. Been working late so I couldn't check it out for myself. It's on Keeamoku street where the strip bar was before. Asked the guy that always sells food in all the bars and he said it was busy.
Anyone one experienced it yet?[/QUOTE]like JR said. same chicks with no choice in life but the bar. daytime bartender kelly was there.
T-Time was dead.
Butterfly still had butterflys stuck to the walls.
[QUOTE=Suckondis]Just because a girl works in a bar it does not mean they are supposed to have sex with the customer. I remember reading something that H411 had written earlier and that was if you ever had a real conversation with the girls you would hear that some of them work there because they have no other choice at the time. Meaning that the girl may have just been divorced or there is a serious family health emergency and they just need to make some money until they find something else.
Some of the girls are married young and therefore have no real life job skills and when they divorced they are put out onto the world to fend for themselves. Some will work in the bar for sex but not all. Some work to pay for their schooling to find another type of job.
I know I will probably hear flack about this but again, it's just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Another Sir Save A Ho...If they ain't going to have sex; they shouldn't be working in a bar. No sex = ROB.
The girls always have choices; they convince themselves (and I guess they made you feel sorry for them) that working in the bar was the only choice available (because they did not want to struggle or sacrifice). Fact is they love the high life, being a princess, and being party girls, but want to pretend that they aren't HOs and SLUTS. Don't let them take advantage of you. If they want us to buy drinks; they need to give us sex.
[QUOTE=John Ross]It was crappy. Most of the women have been around for a while like Shinni from Business and Chanel from Yokohama. Mimi needs the girls to come back from Korea.[/QUOTE]Chanel from Yokohama? You mean were the old queen bees is? Is she even around, the short one with bolt ons. I have not seen her in ages.
Is it just me or my imagination. It seems since around Christmas and throughout new years till now seems like the kbar scene has been slowly declining. It is as if not much new talent arriving and just seems slow. I been doing this for more than 10 years and wow I do not remember it this bad.
[QUOTE=Suckondis]I think everyone here has their own opinion on H411. For me, I don't mind because she offers some insights on how the KBG operates and I like to hear from someone else who works on the other side of the table.
This is just my opinion that's all.[/QUOTE]
Insights? What insights? So far, she hasn't given us anything but a few common-sense observations that any reasonably intelligent monger could get on his own with a half-dozen or so bar visits of just watching the action around him. I've stayed out of this whole discussion until now, and I'll probably regret jumping in.
As Jackson has pointed out, repeatedly, the purpose of this site is to exchange information to help men seeking women for sex. What has H808/411/whatever provided that has been at all helpful in that regard? Has she told us who plays and who doesn't? Who's worth spending money on and who's just a ROB? Tips on how to get the most play for the least expenditure of of cash? The answer to each question is: NO! And she won't either! Her co-workers would give her hell if she gave away information like that!
Her presence here has been more disruptive than entertaining. She's managed to set a few of us at each other's throats, while eagerly lapping up the attention. I'm sorry, but nothing good has come from her being here, and I don't believe anything ever will. If you want some good "insights" that will actually help you in your mongering activities, spend some time reading the posts of some experienced brother mongers. One evening spent browsing this thread will tell you more than all of H411's posts combined!
All of this is just a long way of saying: Give me a fucking break!
G'night all!
I hear all this talk about if a girl works in a bar she should have sex. Well, the girls all say if we guys come to a bar, we should buy drinks. Who I right? No one. It's up to the individual. Spend money if you want to, have sex if she wants to, but the fact is only 1% of the girls will see sex as a means to more money, the rest will take their chances at just leading you on. Guys go to the bars to try and tap something that they cannot get in the "real" world. It's a fantasy. We all know the hoes in each bar that will do it for some major cash. But we are attracted to the ones that don't put out. It's human nature. The unattainable ones. It's an ego trip. We all get on the girls about their LV bags and Rolex watches and Benz's, but the guys egos are just as bad. Bag that broad. Notch in my gun. If you don't reverse the thinking, you will be chasing till you are six feet under. Go to a beach or park and tell a blalah guy, here take this $1,000. I like buy your car. Just deliver it to my house next week. If I don't see you, I give you another $1,000 just in case you forget. How long you going wait? How long you going keep paying him? My car is for sale. Just put an envelope under the windshield, I'll find your house, "promise". Tell the girl, lets have sex tonight and I'll continue coming here to buy drinks. What do you think her answer will be? Or do you are going to do the "wait and wait and wait" appraoch, just in case. Your line stay stuck on the reef, time to cut it. Sorry for the long post, but I get so many guys talking to me on the bar that have the same life stories. They say they want sex. I tell them go an AMP. They say they don't like the arrangement. I know they don't want sex then. They want a emotional connection too. The 200lb Ulua that didn't eat for a month. Easy picking for the fisherman. They'll bite at anything. If your really hungry, better to just go to Tamashiro's.
[QUOTE=Dasearch]Chanel from Yokohama? You mean were the old queen bees is? Is she even around, the short one with bolt ons. I have not seen her in ages.[/QUOTE]
The girl with the ass? That's the one.
[QUOTE=John Ross]I don't think all posts are moderated. It is just that there are lots of new members and since their posts are moderated it just seems that way. This post should pop up immediately.
EDIT: It did post immediately.[/QUOTE]Testing my posts now!
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Hi,
I underatand that you were just testing your posting capabilities.
However, the forum has a thread specifically set up for this purpose in the Site Administration - Test Messages section.
Anyway, it would be cool if you would use the "repost this post to a Moderator" link in the lower left corner of your test message to send me a reminder that i can delete this test report.
[i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=John Ross]I don't think all posts are moderated. It is just that there are lots of new members and since their posts are moderated it just seems that way. This post should pop up immediately.
EDIT: It did post immediately.[/QUOTE]Testing my posts now! Second time! I'm back to regular status because of that troll!
Well, I'll get this this thing modded for the last time! [blue][Deleted by Admin][/blue]
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Hi,
I underatand that you were just testing your posting capabilities.
However, the forum has a thread specifically set up for this purpose in the Site Administration - Test Messages section.
Anyway, it would be cool if you would use the "repost this post to a Moderator" link in the lower left corner of your test message to send me a reminder that i can delete this test report.
[i]Thank You![/i]
Jackson[/blue]
[QUOTE=Dasearch]Is it just me or my imagination. It seems since around Christmas and throughout new years till now seems like the kbar scene has been slowly declining. It is as if not much new talent arriving and just seems slow. I been doing this for more than 10 years and wow I do not remember it this bad.[/QUOTE]The economy is definitely having its impact on the situation in terms of how much money is being spent on the bars. I think you probably see less extravagant gift giving too during the past holiday season.
As for the drop in new talent, its probably due in part to the economy (supply & demand) and the MS. We have some new MS that are working on developing their pipelines and some that just have been in the business too long and don't care anymore. If you remember what the lineup was when TC took over Business it was just plain sad for a place that big. On the flip side, every time Tammy takes back Tomorrow it just becomes a ghost town.