Don't know if they are lying?
[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;2650494]They ask how much I will pay in the initial message exchange and say "no thanks" for 100 or 200 per meet. So I never get started with any of them! And I stopped using HWG's methodology of asking about expectation $ in the opening message.[/QUOTE]Are their lips moving?
Fred if you can get them to do
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2650575]Are their lips moving?[/QUOTE]At least a M&G then I can tell if they're moving or not!
Got to love business trips
Got active again on Sunday in anticipation of a business trip at the end of the week. Set up multiple meetings in my hometown (attended one m&g, clicked but she is new and wants to take it slow so no) and lined up a series of options for my trip. Ended up making plans for a late night drink with a lovely late 20's / early 30's woman. She met me at my hotel bar, and we were upstairs inside of 15 minutes. Total sexual chemistry. She was just submissive enough without being a limp fish, and squirting doesn't really do justice to what she did. Gushed everywhere early and often. Literally soaked the entire bed clean through the top blanket down through the sheets. Oh and best part? No donation. .
Our tax dollars are at work!
[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;2652702]...
This time around, DC continues to be a tough market. Numbers of available women look high, but plenty of UTR girls, unreasonably high expectations, flakes, etc. I also get the impression that there is plenty of sugar supply out there for them. Lots of unreturned messages, very little initiating on their part. Contrast with Boston, where all I had to do was favorite a girl and she would approach me.[/QUOTE]It is not surprising that DC SBs expect more sugar given the fact that the DC metro area has the highest average income in the country. What else can one expect with all the lobbyists throwing money around to get favors and what not from the govt.
I titled this post "tax dollars" since that is the only source of wealth in DC!
SB- SB / GF- ESCORT- SB- SB / GF- huge drama and done
I haven't posted an update for awhile as I was seeing one long term gf / baby. I learned a lot from this last relationship and thought it wise to share a few tips for the guys like me that prefer one long-term SB / GF baby. When we get so close it may become hard to see what is actually going on.
This relationship lasted just over a 1. 5 years. We were not exclusive the entire time and both of us played in the bowl up till about 6/8 months ago, well at least I went exclusive. Drama can become an issue and we need to keep diligent to not let it become too close to us. As a good friend told me: some girls don't really want help, some aren't ready for help and others can never be helped. This girls turned out to be an incredible liar and "game player". I will save you all the details, but just share some of last week.
Monday I had had enough of the mind games and lies- we break up. Tuesday start getting more texts asking for help with some new bills and trying to schedule another date- sends out incredibly sexy pics. (I respond but don't commit to any new dates) Wednesday more texts and more requests for help, promises to make next date special. (I respond but don't commit to any new dates). Thursday. Her live in bf finds out about 50% of her extra curricular activities and they "break up". Thursday night lots of texts, saying sorry, wanting to make things works, knows she has issues that she is going to work on, won't be taking advantage of me anymore, etc. Lots of head games. I respond with I can be a friend and be supportive, but we need a long break before / if we can ever "be" again. Later that night she "cuts" (has never done this while seeing me that I know of) and sends a pic of her bleeding asking if I am happy? - more drama. In the morning I respond with links to counseling sites for cutters. I am sure the next day she used the same lines and head games to get someone else to keep her around.
Warning signs I missed. (1) When drama started happening (outside of me and her, but with "other guys") should of backed off. Well I did, but was drawn back in- she really is amazing when we are together. (2) She would brag about being able to manipulate other guys, exp her live in bf. Went so far as to call him bb. ***** boy. When a girl brags about being able to manipulate other guys she is already planning on or in the process of manipulating you. (3) When stories don't add up. Don't give the benefit of doubt- assume the worst. I have read many times on this forum, if a baby's lips are moving she is lying.
With a short term baby, you aren't as connected and don't get hung up with all the helping and wanting to make things better / easier for them. But you also don't have all the intimacy, affection, love, etc that you do with a long term baby. Having a friend in the bowl that can look at things from a distance instead of you only looking at it from within definitely helps to keep you on track!
I have used prepaid Vanilla cards on SA
[QUOTE=Cowboy1966;2654472]Ok got profile set up on SA have burner phone. Question will the site accept prepaid credit cards and can my URL computer number be traced. Thanks you can pm me for any other tricks I haven't thought of.[/QUOTE]The ZIP used to register the card must match the ZIP used in SA payment page other details do not matter. If you do not want anyone with access to your computer find out about your SA activity then use private browsing or incognito mode of your browser.
If you do not want SA or your ISP to know then use a VPN service (better to use a paid service) that anonymizes all your internet activity. I use Torguard but not for SA rather for accessing torrents!
DC Md NoVA list going out
Will email updates shortly.
PM me if you want to join. You have to contribute to get the list.
Cheers.
You need viagra oif you only pop once in a date.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2655680]I DO think $3-400 / pop is expensive-certainly $700 even overnight. [/QUOTE]My dates are 3-5 hours. Drinks, maybe dinner (usually room service after round 1) and a midnight departure. Have only had one date that was not 3+ pops and nearly every gal was all access and certainly more fun than any pro I have been with.
Hotel is already paid for, just getting more use out of it than someone striking out low-balling girls at $150 a meeting.
$700 for an overnight in NYC is expensive? Other major cities were 5 or 6, and that included before AND after breakfast banging.
The market being revealed
This is an interesting discussion of the market in the DC area and beyond. I have to say the rates some of you guys pay is higher than what used to be discussed when HWG was here. Maybe some of you didn't want to reveal you were paying more, and I don't think it is "lowballing at $150" as another poster put it. It is negotiating. I'm from another demographic, but I've been getting most of my girls at $150. If one comes in higher I make a decision if I'm going to negotiate or walk. Most of the time I walk, but if there is a spectacular one with intelligence that I like I will negotiate a higher price. So I think for a lot of you guys it is having the ability to have "walk away power". I'm sensing too many guys are giving in, which inflates market unnecessarily. You guys are businessmen like me. I always try to get the best deal whether it be for pussy or in my line of business. It's not being cheap it's conducting good business. I won't be weak and overpay for pussy if it is not worthy.
Having said the above my current first string baby started out at $150. She wanted more, but she took my offer, because I had enough game to land her. She's an 8/9 that is submissive to me. She let it be known what she was looking for. Basically to be able to quit her job so she can concentrate on school full time. I didn't do that obviously with my $150 per meet, but what I did do was inch closer to what she is looking for. I moved her to $200 per meet plus pay her rent of $400 per month. I'm seeing her once per week. So that's coming in at about $1200 per month. She was hoping to get around $1800 per month where she could quit her job. To me it's just good business. She can get more by holding out for the occasional whale, but she likes me, and is willing to prove herself. Kind of a nice GE.
Now my dilemma will come in tomorrow when I sit down with this 21 yr old stripper, who just started less than a month ago. She doesn't have that mentality as she is taking full time classes and working at a Bob Evan's as a server. She started this on the side for three nights per week to make extra money. Was probably told she could do well, but she already would like to cut it down to two days, because it is not something she will stick with. She's a 10/10 in my book, so the negotiating is going to be tough. I really like this one, but my $150 per meet won't fly. We've talked a little, so I think she'll come in higher. The question is how high is she going to start? She really doesn't have time for more than one daddy if any really. It's not something she was seeking. She is not on SA. I sold her on it. Again, not tooting my horn, but she liked my game, and now talks to me everyday on texting. She's more of a 10 intellectual type, which really turns me on. A hot babe with a brain that's sweet, with a little naivete to her. But I have to ask myself if I want to invest in this much money for two babies that with all intents and purposes will take me off the market of new pussy. I did just let my SA account expire this morning, so I am going in that direction. I essentially could be locking myself down with two babies long term. If this works out with this second one, then I'm off the market for awhile. Question is can they give me enough sex per week that I need to stay content? I need more than twice per week. I do have two second stringers in a 20 yr old and a 31 yr old, but that would only increase my pussy expenses. That's my dilemma coming up tomorrow. But again if this 21 yr old 10 and I cannot agree on a deal then I'll have the walk away power to move on.
