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[QUOTE=NWMich;4866984]Negotiating is being cheap and is perceived as being cheap. You can rationalize it any way you like, but that's the fact. Haggling is classless.[/QUOTE]So the fact that I haggle makes me classless? Perhaps to a degree I would agree with the cheap part. It seems that you're expecting a level of class that is a bit beyond this hobby at this level. This isn't Washington DC where were talking about really high-class escorts. 95% of the girls we talked about aren't exactly the picture of class. So I think price is definitely something we should always discuss and try to get the best price we can.
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Negotiations
[QUOTE=PrivateParts;4866913]That's an admirable approach, but I don't think negotiations have to be perceived negatively.
My experience is you can negotiate rates respectfully if the advertised rates are higher than a comparable provider. If you are polite it won't impact the quality of service. She's who she is. Realistically I'm more likely to negotiate with someone that has less than stellar reviews but I would never tell her she's not worth it. Instead I make a polite offer on how much I am willing to spend and thank her and say maybe next time if she won't budge.
I may overpay when I am determined to get what I want, when I want it. I get deals when opportunistic and can offer the provider a booking when she otherwise would be sitting idle. A great time to do that is on slow afternoons, mornings before hotel checkout, or when I'm within 10 minutes of her incall and get lucky. Hotels, parking, movie theaters all offer discounted rates based on day / time for the same service. So your standard STG providers will too.
If she gives you a deal with good service you'll repeat for higher price, give a positive review, and increase her client base. If its bad service you'll be glad you didn't pay full price and leave a poor review.[/QUOTE]I'm with PrivatParts and Monger01 on this one.
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So a guy is going to "negotiate" a $20 savings. And some feel this is honorable and OK because the girls are second rate. Really.
I'll let this go now.
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Price is right?
[QUOTE=Monger01;4867086]So the fact that I haggle makes me classless? Perhaps to a degree I would agree with the cheap part. It seems that you're expecting a level of class that is a bit beyond this hobby at this level. This isn't Washington DC where were talking about really high-class escorts. 95% of the girls we talked about aren't exactly the picture of class. So I think price is definitely something we should always discuss and try to get the best price we can.
[/QUOTE]I've been at this hobby awhile, not longer than a few. But I've seen some where they charge not enough, to ones who are just right, and ones who need head examined!! Let's just say, you don’t always get what you pay for. Some lie about the service they provide. I could list several of them! But the high end escort I've seen I've had better from utr's at half the price! And I never haggle. I just pay them their money, if I think they will get the job done. This site has helped seeing reviews and cutting down on what girls not to waste money on. Every one must choose what they want to spend, and who they want to spend on it. Stay safe. Irish.
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No need to argue
This forum is all about helping other mongers. I'll give NWMich credit for offering an opinion which (if I may) think his message is we as USA members should treat good providers well and not insult or take advantage of them. Because lowballing a well known, good provider is bad form. I'd agree with that.
My advice, in the guise of helping others, is to read the reviews and be knowledgeable about what a provider is worth. There are many serviceable, but not great, providers out there with full MSRP listings when they only deserve an average Blue Book offer. So make the offer that is in line with their reviews. It can't be too offensive if they accept your offer.
Peace.
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Gps
Forgot to mention once some girl tried up selling a BJ for 400 $!! I laughed all the way out the door and all the way home!
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[QUOTE=IrishGuy77;4867256]Forgot to mention once some girl tried up selling a BJ for 400 $!! I laughed all the way out the door and all the way home![/QUOTE]LOL that's crazy. I could split that between 4-5 providers over 2 weeks and get full service from each. NO ONE should be paying that for one lay in Kent County, just on general principle alone.
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Haggling
You Heathens getting Poon at a discount better cut it out, man! That's like going to a car dealership and not paying Full Sticker Price!
Disgusting!
NJ.
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[QUOTE=Reacher2215;4867283]LOL that's crazy. I could split that between 4-5 providers over 2 weeks and get full service from each. NO ONE should be paying that for one lay in Kent County, just on general principle alone.[/QUOTE]No kidding! Told her I can find that for 60 $ LOL. And get a few Happy Meals after!
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Sticker prices
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;4867442]You Heathens getting Poon at a discount better cut it out, man! That's like going to a car dealership and not paying Full Sticker Price!
Disgusting!
NJ.[/QUOTE]Sticker for a Yugo was never right even though it was the cheapest. The Fiero looked great but left you hangin on the side of the road. Can't fix either one, might as well junk them and start over.
Yugo 4 k, Fiero 14 k.
One looks better than the other and both have the same performance.
Their reviews were Awesome the first year.
The ones with good reviews can change too. That's why we need updated info on all providers.
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Not always the case
[QUOTE=IrishGuy77;4867113]I've been at this hobby awhile, not longer than a few. But I've seen some where they charge not enough, to ones who are just right, and ones who need head examined!! Let's just say, you dont always get what you pay for. Some lie about the service they provide. I could list several of them! But the high end escort I've seen I've had better from utr's at half the price! And I never haggle. I just pay them their money, if I think they will get the job done. This site has helped seeing reviews and cutting down on what girls not to waste money on. Every one must choose what they want to spend, and who they want to spend on it. Stay safe. Irish.[/QUOTE]I too have been around the block a few times (over 30 years, preinternet) and while "you get what you pay for" is not always the case, at least in my experience it sure can be. Some of my greatest hobby experiences have been with what has been characterized "high end". Absolutely gorgeous women by anyone's standard with mad skills. Usually have to travel but Detroit had its share a few years back. Anyone else get a chance to enjoyed any of the GPS squad of Marisa M, Morgan V and Eve?
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Agree
[QUOTE=IrishGuy77;4866957]Speaking of massage, I need to go to Curtisy Massage soon! I need a good quality massage!! Irish.[/QUOTE]Perri is an unique experience. Sort of what a legit massage should be (without all our Puritan crap). Just treats it as all natural. "Why would I not include the genitals in a full body massage". Same goes for the release. It is sexual without it being overtly sexual. Just read her web site and follow her rules and you will have a wonderful relaxing time.
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"Not a clock watcher"
You read that term all the time in reviews. I was told that simply means the client takes an extra 15 minutes for free. This is from 2 providers. I thought that was funny and made some sense in light of the recent convo about negotiating with providers. Everyone will holler that's not them, but.
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[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4868101]I too have been around the block a few times (over 30 years, preinternet) and while "you get what you pay for" is not always the case, at least in my experience it sure can be. Some of my greatest hobby experiences have been with what has been characterized "high end". Absolutely gorgeous women by anyone's standard with mad skills. Usually have to travel but Detroit had its share a few years back. Anyone else get a chance to enjoyed any of the GPS squad of Marisa M, Morgan V and Eve?[/QUOTE]I have seen all three you mentioned several times. Have done overnight appointments with all three.
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[QUOTE=Moonglow913;4868101]I too have been around the block a few times (over 30 years, preinternet) and while "you get what you pay for" is not always the case, at least in my experience it sure can be. Some of my greatest hobby experiences have been with what has been characterized "high end". Absolutely gorgeous women by anyone's standard with mad skills. Usually have to travel but Detroit had its share a few years back. Anyone else get a chance to enjoyed any of the GPS squad of Marisa M, Morgan V and Eve?[/QUOTE]I've browsed around in Detroit and Chicago, but haven't seen anyone yet! Will eventually. There is one in Vegas that I'd love to get my hands on!