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[QUOTE=Exec Talent]You had a bad experience with Autria!!!
If your mileage varies with her, blame the driver, not the car. She has gone out of her way for me and her rates are very reasonable.[/QUOTE]
All ladies may have a bad day. You were not there, so casting blame is ignorant. All we can accurately surmise, is that they did not click and as always, YMMV.
[QUOTE=Haha99]Dreamed with three ladies...
First, Tiffany
[url]http://myeroticpost.com/TIFFANYHEART010[/url]
At that time, it was not a good dream. However, she was more friendly than the 2nd and 3rd lady.
Second, cant find her ad any more. 213-281-604*
She used a pic, a lady with green cloth.
Rushed, can touch any portion of her body
She received other guy's call and arranged the next appointment during the section.
Third, Autria...
In other reviews, she is a true gfe. However........
She complained about my English.
Can't touch her hair. Not willing to offer FS due to the low rate.
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I did negociate the rate with first two ladies in the phone.[/QUOTE]
What was her special rate and what was she offering in the way of services?
I've read good things about her...tell us more of your experience with her please.
[QUOTE=Goddess]Most provider's with reviews and higher reputations like autria do not appreciate negotiations. I myself find it offensive when a man comes to see me the first time and immediately comes in asking questions and trying to negotiate the rate, which means he is talking about money.
Also you get what you pay for. I maintain that gfe is not for everyone and some men do not prepare themselves properly for a experience as such.
Some guys pay for a short stay or the minimal and try to sneak in multi's, stay over there time and damn near expect a lobster dinner cooked for them, all while having a attitude of "you owe me" and doing things to put ladies at discomfort.
If you want a lady to treat you like a girlfriend then show her the same respect you actually would show your girlfriend.[/QUOTE]
Most reports on Autria have been excellent. In her ads, she usually asks for 200, but often changes to 220, or once in a while drops to 150. In a recent ad, I believe she requested 100 for non FS. These changes in donations might provide some confusion. HaHa admitted his English is a little shaky and it is not far fetched to see where he might not have understood what she wanted. If he asked for clarification, it make have been taken the wrong way by Autria. That is just specuation and thats is all any of us can do besides HaHa or Autria. We were not there and they were.
I remember a few reports some time ago about another provider, who had good reviews and a hobbyist had a bad experience with her. It turned out she was treated badly by someone, but then made another appointment. The polite hobbyist came by and the provider went nutso. Apparently, the good hobbyist looked very similar to the bad hobbyist. The polite hobbyist wrote a report about what happened. It all worked out in the end, I think, but the point is that there is any number of reasons why an appointment may go wrong.
It could be the fault of the hobbyist, or it could be the fault of the provider. That is the definition of YMMV. To assign blame without all of the facts usually means one is speaking from an incorrect orafice.
Just from personal experience. Having many black women as very close friends, and from my sister being a hair stylist. Most black women will NOT allow you to touch their hair.!
And as Maria stated, you definately will get what you pay for! GFE has always been considered something above and beyond. Just like hobbyists that believe a provider is upselling if they ask an additional donation for greek or extras. Those are fetishes. And are not always included!
I'll be the first to let you know. If you are a dick to me. You can bet your ass that YMMV! Otherwise, I am as sweet as can be. If something about you rubbed her the wrong way. Her defenses went up!
His, Hers, and the truth in between.
Everyone has bad days and you never know what to expect.
[url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/autria_incall_specials_beyond_comparison_the_ultimate_experience_is_here_4_you_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1869297[/url]
I saw her ad says: INCALLS/OUTCALLS:) 200'Kisses~ ❀•$100 INCALL Specials•❀
In the first phone call,
some chatting.
Me " Is $.00 for a Half an hour?"
She : yes.
Me: where are you?
...... neglect because I forgot.
.....
Me: What do you offer? (Before this, I told her I am not a LE)
She: you are wiered. Can I see your ID?
Therefore, I did not ask the detail and assumed she offered FS becasue other guys said she is GFE.
At her hotel, we did LE check.
She whispered something like " Drink coffee for half an hour for $.00". I thought it was FS even though I did not understood it well. It seemed that she did not like me to talk much because she worried about people outside. So, I laid down and enjoyed.
Later, I wanted her to lay down because I thought she offered FS.
She: What are you doing? $.00 is not enough for FS. ( Surprise! )
Me: please.
She: more donation ( It sounded like an upsell at that time, so I was not happy)
Me: OK.
Then, she just stood by the bedstand and wanted me to do doggie. She refused to go to bed and said I was not supposed to fuck her.
She acted like a doll.
Both of us might not be comfortable at that time.
I gave her $.00 only because I did not bring more. She wanted me to call her back and pay my debt.
Finally, the dream finished and I left.
[QUOTE=Warpfactor69]What was her special rate and what was she offering in the way of services?
I've read good things about her...tell us more of your experience with her please.[/QUOTE]
Florida is a no entrapment state. As I have stated before and I have explained to you in the past. When you come right away asking a girl what they offer it causes tension. Just because you say your not Le doesn't mean your not to someone who hasn't met you before.
Gfe is an experience therefore if you want a woman to respond to you the same way she would respond to a boyfriend you must treat her as such.
Like I said gfe is not for everyone, it is just as much on the man as the woman to perpetuate that type of experience.
When you start of negotiating and business like chances are you will end of how you started.
There are ways asking with etiquette ahead of time if gfe is what your seeking. Some girls only offer gfe on hour and multi hour sessions. The reason being, it is hard to relax and set a sensual setting in a rushed amount of time.
Ps. There is no longer such a thing as LE check. In the state of florida and many other states a undercover will and can expose part of himself when sealing the deal. I know a girl that recently was incarcerated after a LE check here.
[QUOTE=Haha99]I saw her ad says: INCALLS/OUTCALLS:) 200'Kisses~ ❀•$100 INCALL Specials•❀
In the first phone call,
some chatting.
Me " Is $.00 for a Half an hour?"
She : yes.
Me: What do you offer? (Before this, I told her I am not a LE)
She: you are wiered. Can I see your ID?
Therefore, I did not ask the detail and assumed she offered FS becasue other guys said she is GFE.
At her hotel, we did LE check.
She whispered something like " Drink coffee for half an hour for $.00". I think it was FS.
So, I laid down and enjoyed.
Later, I wanted her to lay down because I thought she offered FS.
She: What are you doing? $.00 is not enough for FS. ( Surprise! )
Me: please.
She: more donation ( It sounded like an upsell at that time, so I was not happy)
Me: OK.
Then, she just stood by the bedstand and wanted me to do doggie. She refused to go to bed and said I was not supposed to fuck her.
She acted like a doll.
Both of us might not be comfortable at that time.
I gave her $.00 only because I did not bring more. She wanted me to call her back and pay my debt.
Finally, the dream finished and I left.[/QUOTE]
FYI,
Yoko text me.... She is from Hong Kong.
She said Miki is a Japanese, 24 yr.
I did not go.
[QUOTE=Ft1982]Perhaps we are calling the same number but not seeing the same girl? Mine was early 20's spoke little English and said she was from Japan. Not the girl in the pic but she was very cute. Also if any guys are seeking BBFS I can give tips and pointers through pm.[/QUOTE]
Not good dude, I'm surprised that she didn't just bail with those questions.
Jenny who's number is 626-808-6024 from ucf
I called and tried to set up 3 dreams, no show every time. Complete Flake.
Two incalls no show and one outcall (she lives down the street from ucf) two call system went to her apt complex and no pick up from the standard second call. I don't know what her deal is but I'm not wasting my time.
I'd pass her anyday, especially when there are soo many others that provide there dream services seriously!
I doubt ymmv.
Just wanted to give you a heads up on a real deal. Saw Vanessa recently, and she is the real deal. Everything with gusto and truly enjoys her work. Also has advertisement under Eros (Eva), but better price through CL.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ads/1412049848.html[/url]
Happy hunting.
(note - further discussion under Escort thread as well - thanks)
[QUOTE=Samuelsmith]Just wanted to give you a heads up on a real deal. Saw Vanessa recently, and she is the real deal. Everything with gusto and truly enjoys her work. Also has advertisement under Eros (Eva), but better price through CL.
[url]http://orlando.craigslist.org/ads/1412049848.html[/url]
Happy hunting.
(note - further discussion under Escort thread as well - thanks)[/QUOTE]I have seen Ava under her Eros ad. $250 for incall at her place btw very safe,private and clean. Flawless body, face and hot. One thing her ad offered GFE but she limited me on a few things, no greek. But she was amazing with everything else.
[QUOTE=Magnum Plus]I have seen Ava under her Eros ad. $250 for incall at her place btw very safe,private and clean. Flawless body, face and hot. One thing her ad offered GFE but she limited me on a few things, no greek. But she was amazing with everything else.[/QUOTE]
In response to some recent inquiries, here are my further details on Vanessa/Eva --
I'm pretty sure the Eros photos of Eva are her. When I called Eros the # & spoke with "Eva", I asked if she was the same girl as the CL "Vanessa" I saw the week before. She confirmed she was, and that she had 2 separate rates for Eros and CL, but gave the Eros customers priority. I stuck with the CL rate.
I would say she's about 5'5" or so, athletic latina build, thin waist, dark smooth skin, long black thick hair, about 27-31 y/o. Her face was nice - not stunning (round Columbian), but she was very well kept, very white teeth and nice smelling.
I had a great time with her and she was very accomodating - particularly @ her CL price. Of course, ymmv.
[QUOTE=Samuelsmith]In response to some recent inquiries, here are my further details on Vanessa/Eva --
I'm pretty sure the Eros photos of Eva are her. When I called Eros the # & spoke with "Eva", I asked if she was the same girl as the CL "Vanessa" I saw the week before. She confirmed she was, and that she had 2 separate rates for Eros and CL, but gave the Eros customers priority. I stuck with the CL rate.
I would say she's about 5'5" or so, athletic latina build, thin waist, dark smooth skin, long black thick hair, about 27-31 y/o. Her face was nice - not stunning (round Columbian), but she was very well kept, very white teeth and nice smelling.
I had a great time with her and she was very accomodating - particularly @ her CL price. Of course, ymmv.[/QUOTE]
That sounds like the woman described in the TER review and the one I wanted to visit. The one I got had mostly blond hair w/dark tips, was 21 or younger, would not DFK or even LFK and could have used some deodorant. She seemed mostly clean but my guess is she only washed her private parts, the way some women do between dates. I'm not saying she was dirty or smelly, just a bit of odor if my face was near her armpits, like when I was licking her boobs. She was pretty and had a nice body, but I wanted the woman that SS and the TER reviewer saw. That "Vanessa" sounded more sexy, professional, gfe, and grown up. I've had my best experiences with women closer to 30.
Also, the woman I spoke with on the phone that gave me directions and claimed to be Vanessa was not the woman I saw. She could barely speak any English and the woman on the phone understood and spoke English just fine.
I think they are using two or more women and just calling them all Vanessa. Maybe they should change their name to Eve or Sybil.
The woman I got was pretty, but it was still bait and switch, and that turns me off.
I was going through the casual encounter and actually got an answer that wasn't automatied. I got pictures from her and she says she can come to my place. My question is before I go through (this will be my first time into the hobby). Does anybody have any reviews from a pam smalls and any tips other then I rule which I've read over and over? I want to jump into this game, and post about it.