Space Cadets

[QUOTE=Ericson73;4030826]I think whoever is doing this is just asking for headaches. I Just saw the HeadDoctor try to vent about a review that I'm sure someone on here told her about it. How did that workout for you? I had Noel say to me, that she read my review on her and I'm like what? This is great, because now she wants me to post some things that is not in line with reality. Well she definitely knows the name Screampie. Either she's crept out by him or turned on I don't know. I definitely don't want to follow behind him that's for sure "no offense SP " I've had Summer beg me to do reviews on her and correct a old review. But that's because someone showed her my review. Thanks for that! Love explaining myself when I'm trying to get undressed and hoping to change her mood for the better. I Don't see the advantage of showing an emotional woman a review of herself? I hope one day providers will start post reviews of mongers online. That would be entertaining.[/QUOTE]I don't ask but some of these girls do review guys already I hear it all the time I don't think its very good business as its not discrete.

For instance I hear about this 1 guy from many girls how he has a dick the size of a baby carrot and creeps out the girls, they say he reminds them of a child molester.

The story must be true cause I heard it from few girls (3) going way back to the rub a dub brandy days and that's when she was 19 she got to be 25 by now.

Needless to say I am very careful what I say to any of these girls you never know what there going to say about you if you get on there bad side.

[QUOTE=Ericson73;4031777]Well how did the HeadDoctor find out about our classified site? Unless someone told her about it correct? I'm guilty of telling a worthy provider about our classified site. But I omitted that little info about the review section on this site. Not a reason in my opinion for her to know about this site. There's many times on here a provider will (A) come on here and start putting some members on blasts for a negative review than A2 nukes it. (B) They will try to advertise there services on here and again A2 deletes it. All I'm saying is, your asking for trouble showing a provider her own review positive or negative. I'm sure there are the exception of cool providers coming on here and saying hey. Like itsmekelly. Let's not forget also that Gia advertises in the classifieds and she too got upset about a review. Look I'm just saying this site is setup for us. If you try to make it a coed type of thing, you lost the appeal of this site.[/QUOTE]Anybody can find this review site very easily. For example, any provider that types "space coast escorts" into google will link directly to Doug's message about fake pictures, and see the whole site.

It is very disappointing to have my credibility questioned by a sm. She quoted me $$ for an hour and she quotes you $. 5 and you question the whole report. Hmmmm let me think, maybe she was harder up for money when you called, maybe these girls don't have consistent pricing (they're not Wal Mart), maybe you got a Black Friday sale, maybe you sound poor. I am open with my reviews even when I know it'll make her hard to see, I provide great photos, I share digits, then I am essentially called a liar, that really sucks. Calling into question a solid sm's creditably over a. 5 difference in a quote from a working gir that you haven't even seen is weak on your part.

Its nothing new with that guy; he attacks with stupid allegations and then resorts to nasty PM's. LOL his chula needs to be stymied for certain.

[QUOTE=Bonerific;4036497]Its nothing new with that guy; he attacks with stupid allegations and then resorts to nasty PM's. LOL his chula needs to be stymied for certain.[/QUOTE]He is the resident troll on a hooker review website, his mother must be very proud.

Why is it everytime I post a review. Most recently Lynsey comes to mind. I get PM's from 4-5 guys with zero to 3 posts in 5-8 years asking for a number. This is pretty disappointing on a couple of levels; it means a lot of guys read this forum but participation if the divulgence of info is sorely lacking. What these guys are doing is just allowing other guys to take the risks and we know very well what those risks are. I am always very wary of a LEO sting and cash and dash girls are also there as well as being robbed by thug management at gunpoint which has also happened to me. The fact that I go through these situations to secure info which I happily provide the forum irks the shit out of me that these "no post" guys have the balls to PM and ask for a number. Damn; even if you don't want to to put yourself in a precarious situation give this forum some info even if it might be redundant but up to date. I mean if you are reading this forum for that many years than you must be playing somewhere. So let us know where. LOL but the best part is when they ask for a number and I say either tell me why you have been a member for 6 years and only have one post or most recently the guy looking for info on lexi. I told him to learn to do a search since I knew I had reviewed her. He says "fuck you" what a class act a lot of guys are. Whatever. Just a rant.

[blue]That's the way all forums work. We need the eyes to get the advertising dollars in order to keep the forum open. I wish everybody participated but that will never happen. If you don't want to share with them don't, nobody says you have to but without them the site shuts down because they outnumber posters 10-1. The advertisers don't care if they post or not, just that they visit. It takes all three to keep the forum open, content creators, content consumers, and advertisers.

Ignore them, don't answer them, they will never change their behavior because you chastise them.

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[QUOTE=Bonerific;4055342]Why is it everytime I post a review. Most recently Lynsey comes to mind. I get PM's from 4-5 guys with zero to 3 posts in 5-8 years asking for a number. This is pretty disappointing on a couple of levels; it means a lot of guys read this forum but participation if the divulgence of info is sorely lacking. What these guys are doing is just allowing other guys to take the risks and we know very well what those risks are. I am always very wary of a LEO sting and cash and dash girls are also there as well as being robbed by thug management at gunpoint which has also happened to me. The fact that I go through these situations to secure info which I happily provide the forum irks the shit out of me that these "no post" guys have the balls to PM and ask for a number. Damn; even if you don't want to to put yourself in a precarious situation give this forum some info even if it might be redundant but up to date. I mean if you are reading this forum for that many years than you must be playing somewhere. So let us know where. LOL but the best part is when they ask for a number and I say either tell me why you have been a member for 6 years and only have one post or most recently the guy looking for info on lexi. I told him to learn to do a search since I knew I had reviewed her. He says "fuck you" what a class act a lot of guys are. Whatever. Just a rant.

[blue]That's the way all forums work. We need the eyes to get the advertising dollars in order to keep the forum open. I wish everybody participated but that will never happen. If you don't want to share with them don't, nobody says you have to but without them the site shuts down because they outnumber posters 10-1. The advertisers don't care if they post or not, just that they visit. It takes all three to keep the forum open, content creators, content consumers, and advertisers.

Ignore them, don't answer them, they will never change their behavior because you chastise them.

A2[/blue][/QUOTE]I get it often and just ignore them as well. What I've been doing in all my reviews is saying digits available for CONTRIBUTING members. I think it helps reduce the number of lurkers that hmu for digits but they'll always be a few. Especially after posting a few pics of a hot chic.

TMC.

I am new to this area, but not new to this hobby. I don't understand why many the members of this forum are encouraging donation rates to rise by paying $$ and $$+ for hour visits. We should be trying to keep donations at reasonable rates like 0. 6 for hh and $ for h. It make no sense to encourage increasing donation rates. I assure you, if we all refuse to pay higher rates for a month or so, and these ladies have no visitors because of it, the rates will come down. Why are you guys shooting yourselves in the pocket / crotch? Think about it!!

I am certainly not new to this hobby and have been in several major markets and I see that kind of post more frequently now than I ever have but my thought on it is. I don't remember seeing any guys from the forum standing next to me over the duration of my career helping me earn my money. Having said that I am not sure how any guy can tell me how much I spend on a girl; especially one that I really like. I am not sure how this public solicitation of bonding together on what we pay girls makes anyone that says that look anything other than like you can't afford anything other than a SW. So go that route. I will continue to pay what I want and no amount of solicitations in this or any other forum is going to get me to change the way I approach this hobby. I earned my money and I got rid of a wife that wanted to control how I spent it so I will be damned if I will allow some dude to tell me what I would not allow a wife to tel me LOL I have a girl that travels 90 miles to spend 3 hours with me and I spoil her rotten, I have a girl in Ocala that is not even a working girl but she is in school and needs help and I spoil her terribly. But both of them spoil my manhood as many times as my old ass will respond. Anyways I usually just ignore those posts but I am a grown man and I earned plenty of money and now I spend as much and on whatever I want without thinking that I have to stay in line with the cheap ass brotherhood of maintaining bottom donations LOL In the MLB they called that collusion when the owners tried that shit and they were just trying to keep multi millionaire players at just being millionaires. Just saying (I realize its a bad analogy but the whole idea of guys actually collaborating as if we actually know each other or are in business together is just insane).

[QUOTE=Bonerific;4063472]I am certainly not new to this hobby and have been in several major markets and I see that kind of post more frequently now than I ever have but my thought on it is. I don't remember seeing any guys from the forum standing next to me over the duration of my career helping me earn my money. Having said that I am not sure how any guy can tell me how much I spend on a girl; especially one that I really like. I am not sure how this public solicitation of bonding together on what we pay girls makes anyone that says that look anything other than like you can't afford anything other than a SW. So go that route. I will continue to pay what I want and no amount of solicitations in this or any other forum is going to get me to change the way I approach this hobby. I earned my money and I got rid of a wife that wanted to control how I spent it so I will be damned if I will allow some dude to tell me what I would not allow a wife to tel me LOL I have a girl that travels 90 miles to spend 3 hours with me and I spoil her rotten, I have a girl in Ocala that is not even a working girl but she is in school and needs help and I spoil her terribly. But both of them spoil my manhood as many times as my old ass will respond. Anyways I usually just ignore those posts but I am a grown man and I earned plenty of money and now I spend as much and on whatever I want without thinking that I have to stay in line with the cheap ass brotherhood of maintaining bottom donations LOL In the MLB they called that collusion when the owners tried that shit and they were just trying to keep multi millionaire players at just being millionaires. Just saying (I realize its a bad analogy but the whole idea of guys actually collaborating as if we actually know each other or are in business together is just insane).[/QUOTE]I agree with you that what we choose to pay for our hobbying is no one else's business even though these payments have the potential to affect the market price. Even so, we should be free to pay what we want if we believe we have received value. I am not a wealthy man and limit my hobby budget to $1,200-1,500 per month. For that I can entertain a high end call girl a couple of times or see STG ladies a dozen times or so. My preference is to enjoy multiple episodes with more affordable dates rather than splurge on more costly experiences. Your choice may be something else entirely. That's my point. It is your choice.

[QUOTE=Stealth17;4063394]I am new to this area, but not new to this hobby. I don't understand why many the members of this forum are encouraging donation rates to rise by paying $$ and $$+ for hour visits. We should be trying to keep donations at reasonable rates like 0. 6 for hh and $ for h. It make no sense to encourage increasing donation rates. I assure you, if we all refuse to pay higher rates for a month or so, and these ladies have no visitors because of it, the rates will come down. Why are you guys shooting yourselves in the pocket / crotch? Think about it!![/QUOTE]It's really just a matter of Demand. If you have a narrow window of opportunity or want instant satisfaction you may have to pay close to what they are asking. However, if you have seen a couple of them and they have your burner number they will call you when their desperate for cash for their habits and or because they can't keep hold of a dollar for more than five minutes. Then politely offer what your willing to pay. You'd be surprised how many times even the so called top providers around here will accept .5 when they really want the money. It doesn't matter what business you're in, capital always has the upper hand, always.

[QUOTE=Stealth17;4063394]I am new to this area, but not new to this hobby. I don't understand why many the members of this forum are encouraging donation rates to rise by paying $$ and $$+ for hour visits. We should be trying to keep donations at reasonable rates like 0. 6 for hh and $ for h. It make no sense to encourage increasing donation rates. I assure you, if we all refuse to pay higher rates for a month or so, and these ladies have no visitors because of it, the rates will come down. Why are you guys shooting yourselves in the pocket / crotch? Think about it!![/QUOTE]A provider boycott to force prices lower will not work and here's why. Let's just say that you somehow convince everyone that reads this forum to only pay the prices that you suggest. The members of this forum are just a fraction of the mongering public. There are probably hundreds, maybe thousands of guys in the area that have never heard of this forum and will never have read your post and they will be paying the $ half and $$ hour prices. How will you convince them? They'll be the only ones getting laid because we'll all be on strike. As for me, I'll just stick to a few well reviewed providers that I can afford and pay what they ask. I'm with Boner on this one.

[QUOTE=TheBlackSwan;4064104]It's really just a matter of Demand. If you have a narrow window of opportunity or want instant satisfaction you may have to pay close to what they are asking. However, if you have seen a couple of them and they have your burner number they will call you when their desperate for cash for their habits and or because they can't keep hold of a dollar for more than five minutes. Then politely offer what your willing to pay. You'd be surprised how many times even the so called top providers around here will accept .5 when they really want the money. It doesn't matter what business you're in, capital always has the upper hand, always.[/QUOTE]Pay attention gentlemen, this is so true. The first time I see a new provider I will pay the asking price. I believe that service levels are better when she doesn't feel like I am beating her up on price without even having met her. After all, I have reached out. I always save the numbers and keep a burner. I am patient. They will reach out to me for repeat visits but I travel for work and am not always available. Of course I let them know if I were around I would've loved to have seen them again. Then comes the day (and it always comes) that money is really tight for them and no one else is available. I let them know how much I enjoyed visiting them but they've caught me at a bad time and money is tight for me also. If you treated them well previously you'll be surprised what offers come your way. Last week I had a SKIP provider that has been reviewed here several times for the price of her cell phone bill. $46. And once you have seen someone for that price, they know better than to ask for what they were getting before. There has been a precedent set. Again, if you have treated them well during the visits, they will gladly still see you when things are slow for the bargain rate. And thank you for it. Patience is the key.

[QUOTE=DougStamper;4064485]Pay attention gentlemen, this is so true. The first time I see a new provider I will pay the asking price. I believe that service levels are better when she doesn't feel like I am beating her up on price without even having met her. After all, I have reached out. I always save the numbers and keep a burner. I am patient. They will reach out to me for repeat visits but I travel for work and am not always available. Of course I let them know if I were around I would've loved to have seen them again. Then comes the day (and it always comes) that money is really tight for them and no one else is available. I let them know how much I enjoyed visiting them but they've caught me at a bad time and money is tight for me also. If you treated them well previously you'll be surprised what offers come your way. Last week I had a SKIP provider that has been reviewed here several times for the price of her cell phone bill. $46. And once you have seen someone for that price, they know better than to ask for what they were getting before. There has been a precedent set. Again, if you have treated them well during the visits, they will gladly still see you when things are slow for the bargain rate. And thank you for it. Patience is the key.[/QUOTE]I am glad my post has caused so much discussion. A few have been offended, but most seem to understand that this is like any other business. Prices are a result of supply and demand. The fact is that the suppliers need the buyers more than the reverse. If the buyers manage the demand properly, the prices will stay at reasonable levels. My personal objective is to find suppliers who are in this for supplemental income and because they also enjoy it; not for survival. That group is small, but good.

I will not say any more on the subject.

[QUOTE=DougStamper;4064485]Pay attention gentlemen, this is so true. The first time I see a new provider I will pay the asking price. I believe that service levels are better when she doesn't feel like I am beating her up on price without even having met her. After all, I have reached out. I always save the numbers and keep a burner. I am patient. They will reach out to me for repeat visits but I travel for work and am not always available. Of course I let them know if I were around I would've loved to have seen them again. Then comes the day (and it always comes) that money is really tight for them and no one else is available. I let them know how much I enjoyed visiting them but they've caught me at a bad time and money is tight for me also. If you treated them well previously you'll be surprised what offers come your way. Last week I had a SKIP provider that has been reviewed here several times for the price of her cell phone bill. $46. And once you have seen someone for that price, they know better than to ask for what they were getting before. There has been a precedent set. Again, if you have treated them well during the visits, they will gladly still see you when things are slow for the bargain rate. And thank you for it. Patience is the key.[/QUOTE]I believe this is an excellent and sensible approach. Great advice! Thanks.

[QUOTE=Stealth17;4064635]I am glad my post has caused so much discussion. A few have been offended, but most seem to understand that this is like any other business. Prices are a result of supply and demand. The fact is that the suppliers need the buyers more than the reverse. If the buyers manage the demand properly, the prices will stay at reasonable levels. My personal objective is to find suppliers who are in this for supplemental income and because they also enjoy it; not for survival. That group is small, but good.

I will not say any more on the subject.[/QUOTE]Also remember that you can't actually take at face value some of those posts paying silly money. White knights spring up only reviewing the same girl at silly rates, or others say they spent 300 for a BJ and it was a bargain. Imo, far too many of the girls are vastly overpriced, and I'm with you. That is not to say they are all the same. I pay Selah and southern hospitality 200 each and consider it money well spent, and I've spent 80 on several that was double what it is worth (I simply never go back). Personally, I like Doug's approach of initially paying the asking price (if reasonable) and then negotiating later. I have negotiated up front before, and the last time I did I got crappy service, so you need to be careful. I've found going the Sugar Baby route to offer much better value for money. Though you have to play it slowly there with most, so it's not for everyone.

[QUOTE=Stealth17;4064635]I am glad my post has caused so much discussion. A few have been offended, but most seem to understand that this is like any other business. Prices are a result of supply and demand. The fact is that the suppliers need the buyers more than the reverse. If the buyers manage the demand properly, the prices will stay at reasonable levels. My personal objective is to find suppliers who are in this for supplemental income and because they also enjoy it; not for survival. That group is small, but good.

I will not say any more on the subject.[/QUOTE]Well, someone said that crack dropped the price of pussy to a more affordable rate. With that being said most girls who are addicted in some manner will try to get the maximum from you. So if you play your cards right negotiate to a lower price. My dad told me when I was a kid he who has the gold makes the rules. You don't have to pay their price your not married to them. Just because they said this is my rate and that's final. Negotiate with them and use there need for a fix against them. Since you bring About a provider who is not in this for drugs but simply to put food on the table. Yes, that is a completely different girls and you will get a different experience from her then you will from someone who is addicted. Now I have a sugarbaby that I've been seeing for over three years, I pay $$ for every visit. Way way more better experience than any STG girl right now. My problem with the STG is that they really have no where to live have the time. I got a UTR right now wanting to see me but also complaining that she and her (don't think it's a brother) has no where live tonight. See? Problems. I can start naming just about every girl on STG with problems with living conditions.

LOL yes someone definitely took it personal bc after my post I got a PM that was designed to insult me and told me I clearly had self esteem issues but my point was if you can't afford these girls than you need to take a different approach much like Doug Stamper laid out or just pay the stg girls or find a SW. Coming in here with no substantive posts and telling us that we should all refuse to pay for pussy for a month to show our solidarity is just very bizarre. I have some very sad news for anyone that thinks that a young, hot girl with a huge sex drive and doesn't have a meds or alcohol issue or any other issue for that matter and they are going to accept what has been called supplemental income just bc they really just want to fuck you for $50 is borderline delusional. I Have two that fit that and one took me 3 years to rope her in and the other needs money to raise children but like I said I spoil them bc we spend hours together. If you don't like my straight up honest post then refute it and explain just how you are going to enact your policy for us to all go on strike for a month (see it even sound ridiculous when you properly frame it. Its a pussy strike) and account for the thousands that seek out girls but aren't in this forum LOL Someone is kind of naive how this hobby works and thinks that one post will change the long existing hobby world. I agree with whoever said that capital talks but we also have to remember this is not a typical economical model bc look who we are mostly dealing with. Stg girls are mostly addicts of some nature and WYP is hit or miss and SA is going to cost a lot of moolah. And that's been documented on here by clayton. I got extremely lucky and I realize that and ericson reminds me all the time of that fact but honestly I work very hard to look for those gems all while enjoying whatever variety is out there. I have never been shy about being the first guy through the door but telling me I need to quit paying what I pay is not only crazy but it isn; t going to happen. LOL ok I am done with this topic but I think all of the seasoned mongers already understood what I've written; everyone has their own methods on how to get less expensive pussy but its a trial and error situation not a mandated strike which really seems it was only bc someone can't afford what girls want him to pay. I think you should just get used to that and accept it. I look forward to getting back to legit topics like reviews on girls LOL.

[QUOTE=Ericson73;4064835]Well, someone said that crack dropped the price of pussy to a more affordable rate. With that being said most girls who are addicted in some manner will try to get the maximum from you. So if you play your cards right negotiate to a lower price. My dad told me when I was a kid he who has the gold makes the rules. You don't have to pay their price your not married to them. Just because they said this is my rate and that's final. Negotiate with them and use there need for a fix against them. Since you bring About a provider who is not in this for drugs but simply to put food on the table. Yes, that is a completely different girls and you will get a different experience from her then you will from someone who is addicted. Now I have a sugarbaby that I've been seeing for over three years, I pay $$ for every visit. Way way more better experience than any STG girl right now. My problem with the STG is that they really have no where to live have the time. I got a UTR right now wanting to see me but also complaining that she and her (don't think it's a brother) has no where live tonight. See? Problems. I can start naming just about every girl on STG with problems with living conditions.[/QUOTE]This report made me think of the SE Palm Bay escort always looking for help with the FPL bill.

[QUOTE=Bonerific;4064910]LOL yes someone definitely took it personal bc after my post I got a PM that was designed to insult me and told me I clearly had self esteem issues but my point was if you can't afford these girls than you need to take a different approach much like Doug Stamper laid out or just pay the stg girls or find a SW. Coming in here with no substantive posts and telling us that we should all refuse to pay for pussy for a month to show our solidarity is just very bizarre. I have some very sad news for anyone that thinks that a young, hot girl with a huge sex drive and doesn't have a meds or alcohol issue or any other issue for that matter and they are going to accept what has been called supplemental income just bc they really just want to fuck you for $50 is borderline delusional. I Have two that fit that and one took me 3 years to rope her in and the other needs money to raise children but like I said I spoil them bc we spend hours together. If you don't like my straight up honest post then refute it and explain just how you are going to enact your policy for us to all go on strike for a month (see it even sound ridiculous when you properly frame it. Its a pussy strike) and account for the thousands that seek out girls but aren't in this forum LOL Someone is kind of naive how this hobby works and thinks that one post will change the long existing hobby world. I agree with whoever said that capital talks but we also have to remember this is not a typical economical model bc look who we are mostly dealing with. Stg girls are mostly addicts of some nature and WYP is hit or miss and SA is going to cost a lot of moolah. And that's been documented on here by clayton. I got extremely lucky and I realize that and ericson reminds me all the time of that fact but honestly I work very hard to look for those gems all while enjoying whatever variety is out there. I have never been shy about being the first guy through the door but telling me I need to quit paying what I pay is not only crazy but it isn; t going to happen. LOL ok I am done with this topic but I think all of the seasoned mongers already understood what I've written; everyone has their own methods on how to get less expensive pussy but its a trial and error situation not a mandated strike which really seems it was only bc someone can't afford what girls want him to pay. I think you should just get used to that and accept it. I look forward to getting back to legit topics like reviews on girls LOL.[/QUOTE]Hmmm. You've given me food for thought. I dropped a girl partly because she wanted to raise the price. That, and she said wanted a little extra so she could take her kid somewhere.

I had just heard a story from a girl about how she dated a guy who would tell his family he needed money for cold meds or a prescription for his toddler but would take the money and go buy beer. Next thing I know I get a text from a regular asking for 1. 5 x the norm so she could take her kid to do something. Maybe it was just bad timing but I ghosted her and never went back. It's not the first time a provider has said they need $$ for their kids.

I'll ask an opinion on this. This girl advertised a couple times times on STG but didn't stick around long because I don't think she was cut out for the biz. She wasn't a hardass or a hustler by any stretch. Plus, she was really paranoid that she was going to get busted. As best as I can tell she didn't have a candy habit; maybe weed. The first couple times I saw her I paid for the half hour and after we wrapped up, I took off. She got more comfortable and the sessions would be full GFE. She'd have an O while riding and start kissing me like crazy. She started offering to put on Netflix and asking if I wanted to hang out so I would. All the while I'm still dropping a donation for half an hour. More often than not saddle time didn't go over that. I figured if you offer to hang out we're off the clock. So, that last round of texts when she asked for more for her kid she hints in an oblique way that she's been meaning to talk to me about it anyway. I take it that we're about to renegotiate and using the kid put me in a crappy frame of mind so I just dropped off the radar.

She was easygoing and now I'm missing the clean GFE pussy. I'm debating on sending her a TM to see what's up. Would you do it?

[QUOTE=LovePearz;4068252]Hmmm. You've given me food for thought. I dropped a girl partly because she wanted to raise the price. That, and she said wanted a little extra so she could take her kid somewhere.

I had just heard a story from a girl about how she dated a guy who would tell his family he needed money for cold meds or a prescription for his toddler but would take the money and go buy beer. Next thing I know I get a text from a regular asking for 1. 5 x the norm so she could take her kid to do something. Maybe it was just bad timing but I ghosted her and never went back. It's not the first time a provider has said they need $$ for their kids.

I'll ask an opinion on this. This girl advertised a couple times times on STG but didn't stick around long because I don't think she was cut out for the biz. She wasn't a hardass or a hustler by any stretch. Plus, she was really paranoid that she was going to get busted. As best as I can tell she didn't have a candy habit; maybe weed. The first couple times I saw her I paid for the half hour and after we wrapped up, I took off. She got more comfortable and the sessions would be full GFE. She'd have an O while riding and start kissing me like crazy. She started offering to put on Netflix and asking if I wanted to hang out so I would. All the while I'm still dropping a donation for half an hour. More often than not saddle time didn't go over that. I figured if you offer to hang out we're off the clock. So, that last round of texts when she asked for more for her kid she hints in an oblique way that she's been meaning to talk to me about it anyway. I take it that we're about to renegotiate and using the kid put me in a crappy frame of mind so I just dropped off the radar.

She was easygoing and now I'm missing the clean GFE pussy. I'm debating on sending her a TM to see what's up. Would you do it?[/QUOTE]I have many girls who are well worth the Hour Rate of $$, but then again I've been with girls who were barely worth $80 for a half. Rene in Titusville and Julia in Melbourne come to mind because they are notclock watchers, enjoy what they do and provide a full GFE experience. But, boycotting will not work.

[QUOTE=LovePearz;4068252]Hmmm. You've given me food for thought. I dropped a girl partly because she wanted to raise the price. That, and she said wanted a little extra so she could take her kid somewhere.

I had just heard a story from a girl about how she dated a guy who would tell his family he needed money for cold meds or a prescription for his toddler but would take the money and go buy beer. Next thing I know I get a text from a regular asking for 1. 5 x the norm so she could take her kid to do something. Maybe it was just bad timing but I ghosted her and never went back. It's not the first time a provider has said they need $$ for their kids.

I'll ask an opinion on this. This girl advertised a couple times times on STG but didn't stick around long because I don't think she was cut out for the biz. She wasn't a hardass or a hustler by any stretch. Plus, she was really paranoid that she was going to get busted. As best as I can tell she didn't have a candy habit; maybe weed. The first couple times I saw her I paid for the half hour and after we wrapped up, I took off. She got more comfortable and the sessions would be full GFE. She'd have an O while riding and start kissing me like crazy. She started offering to put on Netflix and asking if I wanted to hang out so I would. All the while I'm still dropping a donation for half an hour. More often than not saddle time didn't go over that. I figured if you offer to hang out we're off the clock. So, that last round of texts when she asked for more for her kid she hints in an oblique way that she's been meaning to talk to me about it anyway. I take it that we're about to renegotiate and using the kid put me in a crappy frame of mind so I just dropped off the radar.

She was easygoing and now I'm missing the clean GFE pussy. I'm debating on sending her a TM to see what's up. Would you do it?[/QUOTE]If you enjoyed your time, she's probably worth more than you were paying. Just ask her what she wants. Sometimes it's worth paying more to get more and it sounds like she was good. Feel free to PM me her digits and I'll let you know if you want.

[QUOTE=DJMiles;4068417]If you enjoyed your time, she's probably worth more than you were paying. Just ask her what she wants. Sometimes it's worth paying more to get more and it sounds like she was good. Feel free to PM me her digits and I'll let you know if you want.[/QUOTE]Thanks! I think I'm going to hit her up and see if we can get back to regular.

[QUOTE=Willie24;4068410]I have many girls who are well worth the Hour Rate of $$, but then again I've been with girls who were barely worth $80 for a half. Rene in Titusville and Julia in Melbourne come to mind because they are notclock watchers, enjoy what they do and provide a full GFE experience. But, boycotting will not work.[/QUOTE]I think you're right.

OK guys. This is for those that don't want to pay the higher prices that are floating around. Here is a site for you to get some very inexpensive pussy. Play and stay safe. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qV8eWERb48[/URL].

[QUOTE=ScottyM3;4069048]OK guys. This is for those that don't want to pay the higher prices that are floating around. Here is a site for you to get some very inexpensive pussy. Play and stay safe. [URL]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qV8eWERb48[/URL].[/QUOTE]Ha, ha. That was funny.

In compl agreement with this-so much so, I pdf-ed and saved it to my brnr as a reminder. For a first visit, if its reas, I pay what they ask. I have SLIGHTLY 'overpaid'perhaps even last week in Palm Bay. But I follow a plan as descr below. And it can and does work. AND there are plenty of fish on the USA class site (and others) that if my 'adj' offer doesn't work on a future contact, I can find a suitable alternative. As long as I don't get 'Target Fixation', its a good / reas ependiture.

F1.

[QUOTE=DougStamper;4064485]Pay attention gentlemen, this is so true. The first time I see a new provider I will pay the asking price. I believe that service levels are better when she doesn't feel like I am beating her up on price without even having met her. After all, I have reached out. I always save the numbers and keep a burner. I am patient. They will reach out to me for repeat visits but I travel for work and am not always available. Of course I let them know if I were around I would've loved to have seen them again. Then comes the day (and it always comes) that money is really tight for them and no one else is available. I let them know how much I enjoyed visiting them but they've caught me at a bad time and money is tight for me also. If you treated them well previously you'll be surprised what offers come your way. Last week I had a SKIP provider that has been reviewed here several times for the price of her cell phone bill. $46. And once you have seen someone for that price, they know better than to ask for what they were getting before. There has been a precedent set. Again, if you have treated them well during the visits, they will gladly still see you when things are slow for the bargain rate. And thank you for it. Patience is the key.[/QUOTE]

Some [B]CAR[/B]toons to go along with the posts about having sex in SUVs vs smaller cars over in the Streetwalker thread.

Man that reminds me of the cartoons in Playboy back in the 80-90's Funny shit!

Spaz.

[QUOTE=RoadWarrior2K;4075550]Some [B]CAR[/B]toons to go along with the posts about having sex in SUVs vs smaller cars over in the Streetwalker thread.[/QUOTE]

Ok the guys that repeatedly post about the same girl. The one who posts about gia comes to mind with well over half of his posts being about Gia and now its the posts about Lynsey. I just saw Lynsey and I did not really see the need to write a post but my opinion is that I don't think there is anything positive about her situation going forward. Her face is getting worse and since she only gets court tested one a month she can easily evade that- its not like the county actually cares about the addiction problem. However let's not pretend that she is on a path to getting better. We scheduled a time and when I Showed up at that notel she has taken up residence in I passed her baby daddy and their child on his way out (literally at the door of the room) talk about awkward. She was not nearly as engaged as the previous time but she still has potential but I would take a wait and see approach bc I think its going to spiral bc these girls really can make some good cash very quickly and if you are an addict its easy to see how to spend it. Pay for another day in the room, give some cash to the BF for the baby and then buy drugs. My point is when its only one guy posting all of the time about the same girl the opinion of her starts to wane a little bc everyone is a aware of white knights. Now all of that being said Lynsey is still a bargain compared to being ripped off by Tiff in TVille or seeing the bait and switch squirter in Palm bay LOL however I am not sure she will sustain her progress without treatment.

Was trying very hard to not jump on here.

Just can't stand Members being Hypercritical in posting reviews.

That post 12/26 about Lynsey?

Very same Member was positively impressed with her, based on Review dated 12/17.

And counted at least 13+ positive Reviews from other members, so thinking more than "One Guy" liked her and Posted a Review about her, LOL.

Just saying.

[QUOTE=CaptainJohn;4086908]Was trying very hard to not jump on here.

Just can't stand Members being Hypercritical in posting reviews.

That post 12/26 about Lynsey?

Very same Member was positively impressed with her, based on Review dated 12/17.

And counted at least 13+ positive Reviews from other members, so thinking more than "One Guy" liked her and Posted a Review about her, LOL.

Just saying.[/QUOTE]You should change your username to CaptainWhiteKnight.

I already called you out on it in one of my previous posts so I'll just leave it at that.

Ended the year with seeing 61 almost 63 different girls. They are all living in this county. The other two which I didn't count are a long boring story of why that didn't happened. We were both naked and most of the blood is in JR. But a slight issue with what I wanted and what they will allow was different. So I decided it wasn't going to happen. So here's a break down UTRs 26 (most are now on vacation, cleaned up or MIA but a few I still see) BP / STG / escort review girls total of 35 IPO providers. Not counted with my grand total, the BBBJ category no FS (5) . So what did I use for finding all of these girls? Networking with other mongers in PM, on the actual board and outside the board. If this was college, the web board is the classroom, my close friends and I are the study group. I'm not going to name who the other members are, I'm sure they don't want to be mentioned. But let's say one of them is quietly a legend on this board. I've been on this board since 2011 or 12 . I've never seen anyone like him, in fact I've gained so much knowledge from the guy that it seemed like I was competing against his conquests for the year. But at last his true numbers out shadow mine, for every two that he sees I'd see one. If your a weekend warrior at this hobby your not going to see high numbers like this. Little secret on the UTRs posted on this board, they've been underground for quite awhile. Just that the candy got out of hand and they need more clients. When that happens they no longe give quality service. Here's the other side of pulling big numbers. Having a outcall. Do you know how many really good girls you guys are turning down because you don't have a outcall? The BP days are long gone along with the pill mills. Have you noticed in the majority of the reports from 2018 there's hardly any mention of NOTELS for incalls? Seems there are hardly any flea infested hotels around. If your not adapting to the terrain on a daily basis you'll fall behind. How about the girls your having a hard time communicating with? I've read to many times in 2018 of the complaints about girls and their lack of communication. It's the transition from the pills to the meth and H that is the new king. Understanding what's the drugs being used now then what it was before is a huge difference. So if you don't understand it, you'll be frequently frustrated. A very famous genius once said. The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results. As I sit here writing this I'm going to step back a take a break from the hobby. But I'm going to concentrate on more UTRs this time around or the girls you find impossible to reach. They're simply quite reachable if your set your mind to it. I would love to brag about the girls who were recently talked about that seemed impossible to reach. But I was able to get them to respond and see me a few times. But I don't want to ruin a good thing that I have with them. There are a few on here that like to show the girls my reviews and get me in trouble. Not Cool. Last thing I might add that's quite helpful in this hobby. Don't alienate yourself from well known mongers on this board. Before you lash out on someone in PM, blast them on spacecadets or a reporting them. You might want to look at that username's post history and ask yourself. Can I really afford to not have him as a friend? He could help in the future for finding UTRs? If the guy your about to make a enemy with is responsible for finding some new talent in this county. Are you sure you want to be out of that circle? I'm sure whatever the beef you have is petty. Hey I had a issue with someone in the past and it was something pretty stupid. But he choose to use the ignore button on me. I tried to extend a olive branch like hey don't do this I need someone like you to see one of my UTRs when I bring her to the board to share. If you been on this board long enough you know I've had some really good gems. I don't even remember who that person is and I'm sure he eventually sees the girl I'm bringing to the table. But by the the time he does, she's pretty much used up.

[QUOTE=Ericson73;4088189]Ended the year with seeing 61 almost 63 different girls. They are all living in this county. The other two which I didn't count are a long boring story of why that didn't happened. We were both naked and most of the blood is in JR. But a slight issue with what I wanted and what they will allow was different. So I decided it wasn't going to happen. So here's a break down UTRs 26 (most are now on vacation, cleaned up or MIA but a few I still see) BP / STG / escort review girls total of 35 IPO providers. Not counted with my grand total, the BBBJ category no FS (5) . So what did I use for finding all of these girls? Networking with other mongers in PM, on the actual board and outside the board. If this was college, the web board is the classroom, my close friends and I are the study group. I'm not going to name who the other members are, I'm sure they don't want to be mentioned. But let's say one of them is quietly a legend on this board. I've been on this board since 2011 or 12 . I've never seen anyone like him, in fact I've gained so much knowledge from the guy that it seemed like I was competing against his conquests for the year. But at last his true numbers out shadow mine, for every two that he sees I'd see one. If your a weekend warrior at this hobby your not going to see high numbers like this. Little secret on the UTRs posted on this board, they've been underground for quite awhile. Just that the candy got out of hand and they need more clients. When that happens they no longe give quality service. Here's the other side of pulling big numbers. Having a outcall. Do you know how many really good girls you guys are turning down because you don't have a outcall? The BP days are long gone along with the pill mills. Have you noticed in the majority of the reports from 2018 there's hardly any mention of NOTELS for incalls? Seems there are hardly any flea infested hotels around. If your not adapting to the terrain on a daily basis you'll fall behind. How about the girls your having a hard time communicating with? I've read to many times in 2018 of the complaints about girls and their lack of communication. It's the transition from the pills to the meth and H that is the new king. Understanding what's the drugs being used now then what it was before is a huge difference. So if you don't understand it, you'll be frequently frustrated. A very famous genius once said. The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results. As I sit here writing this I'm going to step back a take a break from the hobby. But I'm going to concentrate on more UTRs this time around or the girls you find impossible to reach. They're simply quite reachable if your set your mind to it. I would love to brag about the girls who were recently talked about that seemed impossible to reach. But I was able to get them to respond and see me a few times. But I don't want to ruin a good thing that I have with them. There are a few on here that like to show the girls my reviews and get me in trouble. Not Cool. Last thing I might add that's quite helpful in this hobby. Don't alienate yourself from well known mongers on this board. Before you lash out on someone in PM, blast them on spacecadets or a reporting them. You might want to look at that username's post history and ask yourself. Can I really afford to not have him as a friend? He could help in the future for finding UTRs? If the guy your about to make a enemy with is responsible for finding some new talent in this county. Are you sure you want to be out of that circle? I'm sure whatever the beef you have is petty. Hey I had a issue with someone in the past and it was something pretty stupid. But he choose to use the ignore button on me. I tried to extend a olive branch like hey don't do this I need someone like you to see one of my UTRs when I bring her to the board to share. If you been on this board long enough you know I've had some really good gems. I don't even remember who that person is and I'm sure he eventually sees the girl I'm bringing to the table. But by the the time he does, she's pretty much used up.[/QUOTE]My congratulations to you sir. Well done and fine recommendations for us us. Enjoy your respite from our hobby.

[QUOTE=Ericson73;4088189]Ended the year with seeing 61 almost 63 different girls. They are all living in this county. The other two which I didn't count are a long boring story of why that didn't happened. We were both naked and most of the blood is in JR. But a slight issue with what I wanted and what they will allow was different. So I decided it wasn't going to happen. So here's a break down UTRs 26 (most are now on vacation, cleaned up or MIA but a few I still see) BP / STG / escort review girls total of 35 IPO providers. Not counted with my grand total, the BBBJ category no FS (5) . So what did I use for finding all of these girls? Networking with other mongers in PM, on the actual board and outside the board. If this was college, the web board is the classroom, my close friends and I are the study group. I'm not going to name who the other members are, I'm sure they don't want to be mentioned. But let's say one of them is quietly a legend on this board. I've been on this board since 2011 or 12 . I've never seen anyone like him, in fact I've gained so much knowledge from the guy that it seemed like I was competing against his conquests for the year. But at last his true numbers out shadow mine, for every two that he sees I'd see one. If your a weekend warrior at this hobby your not going to see high numbers like this. Little secret on the UTRs posted on this board, they've been underground for quite awhile. Just that the candy got out of hand and they need more clients. When that happens they no longe give quality service. Here's the other side of pulling big numbers. Having a outcall. Do you know how many really good girls you guys are turning down because you don't have a outcall? The BP days are long gone along with the pill mills. Have you noticed in the majority of the reports from 2018 there's hardly any mention of NOTELS for incalls? Seems there are hardly any flea infested hotels around. If your not adapting to the terrain on a daily basis you'll fall behind. How about the girls your having a hard time communicating with? I've read to many times in 2018 of the complaints about girls and their lack of communication. It's the transition from the pills to the meth and H that is the new king. Understanding what's the drugs being used now then what it was before is a huge difference. So if you don't understand it, you'll be frequently frustrated. A very famous genius once said. The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results. As I sit here writing this I'm going to step back a take a break from the hobby. But I'm going to concentrate on more UTRs this time around or the girls you find impossible to reach. They're simply quite reachable if your set your mind to it. I would love to brag about the girls who were recently talked about that seemed impossible to reach. But I was able to get them to respond and see me a few times. But I don't want to ruin a good thing that I have with them. There are a few on here that like to show the girls my reviews and get me in trouble. Not Cool. Last thing I might add that's quite helpful in this hobby. Don't alienate yourself from well known mongers on this board. Before you lash out on someone in PM, blast them on spacecadets or a reporting them. You might want to look at that username's post history and ask yourself. Can I really afford to not have him as a friend? He could help in the future for finding UTRs? If the guy your about to make a enemy with is responsible for finding some new talent in this county. Are you sure you want to be out of that circle? I'm sure whatever the beef you have is petty. Hey I had a issue with someone in the past and it was something pretty stupid. But he choose to use the ignore button on me. I tried to extend a olive branch like hey don't do this I need someone like you to see one of my UTRs when I bring her to the board to share. If you been on this board long enough you know I've had some really good gems. I don't even remember who that person is and I'm sure he eventually sees the girl I'm bringing to the table. But by the the time he does, she's pretty much used up.[/QUOTE]Wow! I couldn't have said it better myself and I have only been on this Forum for a couple of years but have been a monger for the last ten! Before I found this Form I was definitely stumbling around, making a lot of stupid mistakes and wasting money on bad experiences. I have learned, thanks to Erickson and others that insight from fellow mongers saves time, money and hassle. Even though I'm older, I still work and have bills to pay. I would rather get info here on providers than anywhere else! Pay attention to the Senior Members, they are definitely on point more often than not.

Thanks Ericsson!!

Only been at this a year. Got a lot of flak from some members via PM for being or saying something dumb. Never thought about lashing back or ignoring them for the exact reasons you mention here. I'll take my lumps and keep getting better. I know I don't TOFTT too often but with my budget and available time I need to try and get the most for my money.

Kudos for an awesome post and a wealth of knowledge. That really goes to all the senior members. This forum is a gold mine of information and it keeps everyone as safe as possible. I lurked for a long time and have only just started seeing providers this year. I learn something new every time. Thanks again to all of you.

Great post! You are a god among mortal men.

After 61 in a year, I'd need a break too!

Happy New Year and stay safe and in good health.

[QUOTE=Ericson73;4088189]Ended the year with seeing 61 almost 63 different girls. They are all living in this county. The other two which I didn't count are a long boring story of why that didn't happened. We were both naked and most of the blood is in JR. But a slight issue with what I wanted and what they will allow was different. So I decided it wasn't going to happen. So here's a break down UTRs 26 (most are now on vacation, cleaned up or MIA but a few I still see) BP / STG / escort review girls total of 35 IPO providers. Not counted with my grand total, the BBBJ category no FS (5) . So what did I use for finding all of these girls? Networking with other mongers in PM, on the actual board and outside the board. If this was college, the web board is the classroom, my close friends and I are the study group. I'm not going to name who the other members are, I'm sure they don't want to be mentioned. But let's say one of them is quietly a legend on this board. I've been on this board since 2011 or 12 . I've never seen anyone like him, in fact I've gained so much knowledge from the guy that it seemed like I was competing against his conquests for the year. But at last his true numbers out shadow mine, for every two that he sees I'd see one. If your a weekend warrior at this hobby your not going to see high numbers like this. Little secret on the UTRs posted on this board, they've been underground for quite awhile. Just that the candy got out of hand and they need more clients. When that happens they no longe give quality service. Here's the other side of pulling big numbers. Having a outcall. Do you know how many really good girls you guys are turning down because you don't have a outcall? The BP days are long gone along with the pill mills. Have you noticed in the majority of the reports from 2018 there's hardly any mention of NOTELS for incalls? Seems there are hardly any flea infested hotels around. If your not adapting to the terrain on a daily basis you'll fall behind. How about the girls your having a hard time communicating with? I've read to many times in 2018 of the complaints about girls and their lack of communication. It's the transition from the pills to the meth and H that is the new king. Understanding what's the drugs being used now then what it was before is a huge difference. So if you don't understand it, you'll be frequently frustrated. A very famous genius once said. The definition of madness is doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results. As I sit here writing this I'm going to step back a take a break from the hobby. But I'm going to concentrate on more UTRs this time around or the girls you find impossible to reach. They're simply quite reachable if your set your mind to it. I would love to brag about the girls who were recently talked about that seemed impossible to reach. But I was able to get them to respond and see me a few times. But I don't want to ruin a good thing that I have with them. There are a few on here that like to show the girls my reviews and get me in trouble. Not Cool. Last thing I might add that's quite helpful in this hobby. Don't alienate yourself from well known mongers on this board. Before you lash out on someone in PM, blast them on spacecadets or a reporting them. You might want to look at that username's post history and ask yourself. Can I really afford to not have him as a friend? He could help in the future for finding UTRs? If the guy your about to make a enemy with is responsible for finding some new talent in this county. Are you sure you want to be out of that circle? I'm sure whatever the beef you have is petty. Hey I had a issue with someone in the past and it was something pretty stupid. But he choose to use the ignore button on me. I tried to extend a olive branch like hey don't do this I need someone like you to see one of my UTRs when I bring her to the board to share. If you been on this board long enough you know I've had some really good gems. I don't even remember who that person is and I'm sure he eventually sees the girl I'm bringing to the table. But by the the time he does, she's pretty much used up.[/QUOTE]Great post, Eric. Happy holidays and thanks for the numbers you sent my way!

Ericsson, at 61 that makes you freaking Roger Maris of the Brevard monger league! Well done. I echo the thanks from other members, you helped me get together with Kay. I couldn't walk straight the next day! She wore my ass out! I suppose it's apropros that this is my 61st post. If I could I would buy you a beer, thanks for all the effort.

Be safe fellas.

MCR.