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Hey mongers:
Haven't been to O'town for while. Just got a meeting for Monday afternoon so I decided to fly down Sunday to do some sightseeing. Got a hotel on the trail near the mall so hopefully I can enjoy.
Probably stop in the Ale House for a beer and watch some baseball Sunday night. If anybody is out, PM me.
Cheers
I sent out a PM today to a select few who are regular contributors of useful information. Just like people who talk a lot and say nothing, just because you have a lot of posts doesn't mean you have contributed anything. In search ofs and me too posts really don't do much to add to the knowledge base.
Guys, the subject of my PM is a gem and definitely worth a visit. She is about as good as it gets without leaving the country. Have fun and treat her well.
[QUOTE=Exec Talent] is just like people who talk a lot and say nothing, just because you have a lot of posts doesn't mean you have contributed anything.
Guys, the subject of my PM don't do much to add to the knowledge base [/QUOTE]
Executive Thud = Artificial Intelligence
[QUOTE=Ron News]Executive Thud = Artificial Intelligence[/QUOTE]
You have yet to make a post worth reading. 'nuff said.
Instead of cross posting...
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=562843#post562843[/url]
Hey All
Anyone that has been a memeber of this site for any period of time knows that Exec Talent has been a highly useful and very informative reporter. These new found attacks on old members is becoming boring. We are all here for a reason. Share stories and good inforamtion. Lets try a new idea, if some one gives a bad report or is trying to attack someone just ignore the report,PM or any other negative. Lets get this board back to the strong helpful family it was a few years back. A big thank you for the old members you know who you are for all the info you have shared with me over the years. It was very well appreciated...
Keep on riding that Trail
T.R. 1
Back in O-Town after some time away. It's good to see the family is still going strong.
T69
[QUOTE=Trail Rider 1]Hey All
Anyone that has been a memeber of this site for any period of time knows that Exec Talent has been a highly useful and very informative reporter. These new found attacks on old members is becoming boring. We are all here for a reason. Share stories and good inforamtion. Lets try a new idea, if some one gives a bad report or is trying to attack someone just ignore the report,PM or any other negative. Lets get this board back to the strong helpful family it was a few years back. A big thank you for the old members you know who you are for all the info you have shared with me over the years. It was very well appreciated...
Keep on riding that Trail
T.R. 1[/QUOTE]
Just on 11pm news. WESH folllowed along as Daytona law enforcement did hotel sting with Daytona Craigslist people. Reporter actually interviewed several of the women.
[url]http://www.wesh.com/news/14111722/detail.html[/url]
The Metropolitan Bureau of Investigation (MBI) worked undercover since 2005 to bust three advertising
salesmen at the Orlando Weekly. The paper is known for criticizing the MBI as the "morality police."
They didn't bust thieves, murderers, child molesters, extortionists, or con men who prey on the elderly,
but rather three low level ad salesmen who work hard to make an honest living.
It would take some actual work to deal with real criminals who engage in hurting others. No, these are
cops who are too fucking prissy to ever get their fingernails dirty.
And the MBI did not even have the decency to arrest them in the privacy of their offices, but rather LE had
to make a big show in public by arresting them when they were attending a job fair at the Marriott Hotel.
How chickenshit can you get?
The case will fall apart and be dropped, but the piggies will have had their fun prancing around undercover
posing as their idea of prostitutes for TWO years at our taxpayer expense.
It took them TWO years to determine that a newspaper was selling ads.
TWO years during which pimps were pistol whipping and robbing johns.
TWO years while the gangs were expanding their control over areas of the city.
TWO years while the murder rate exploded to an all-time high in Orlando, then kept going up.
"I don't see any first amendment issue here" said Bill Lutz, Director of the MBI:
[url]http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-weekly2007oct20,0,4016288.story[/url]
Henry Pierson Curtis | Sentinel Staff Writer
October 20, 2007
Vice agents for the Metropolitan Bureau of Investigation arrested three Orlando Weekly employees Friday on charges of promoting prostitution by selling classified advertising to escort services.
The weekly newspaper -- a longtime critic of the MBI and its targeting of adult businesses -- also was accused of racketeering and 17 counts of aiding in the commission of prostitution, according to court records.
Officials said the newspaper helped escort services design ads that would cloak them from law enforcement.
Publisher Rick Schreiber called the arrests "an outrageous abuse of process and an attempt to censor the First Amendment rights of a newspaper that has reported critically on the Metropolitan Bureau of Investigation."
MBI Director Bill Lutz said the unusual arrests had nothing to do with the newspaper's freedom of speech.
"I don't see a First Amendment issue here," Lutz said. "This is strictly an advertising company making money off of prostitution."
MBI agents arrested director of classified advertising Jarrell B. Martin, 43; line account executive Katherine Casey Miller, 27; and display account executive Christopher M. Whiting, 37, while they were working at a job fair sponsored by the Weekly at the downtown Marriott Hotel.
Vice agents say the Weekly earned about $2.3 million in the past five years from prostitution-related ads. Their estimate was based on rates of $80 for a three-line classified and $210 to $240 for small display ads.
MBI has made 80 prostitution arrests since 2003 connected to advertisers in the Weekly, the agency said.
Daniel Aaronson, a longtime Fort Lauderdale criminal-defense lawyer, said the newspaper did nothing wrong if it simply took and ran adult-oriented advertisements.
"If an ad uses suggestive language, the stopping of these ads threatens the First Amendment," said Aaronson, who has represented adult-entertainment businesses, bookstores, swingers clubs and even serial killer Danny Rolling on his right to publish accounts of his crimes.
MBI officials, however, said undercover officers posing as "sellers of prostitution" made it clear to Weekly management and advertising employees that they were involved in illicit business.
Interviews with MBI agents and court records show Friday's arrests followed an investigation begun in 2005 that involved two undercover female agents who posed as prostitutes when buying advertisements. The case, which MBI called "Operation Weekly Shame," was presented to an Orange County grand jury that handed up the indictments Wednesday.
Times-Shamrock Communications, the Weekly's parent company in Baltimore, previously told MBI that it wouldn't change its ad policy because there was no proof that every escort service was a front for prostitution, said Cmdr. Paul Zambouros, head of the vice and organized-crime squads.
MBI adopted a strategy in 1996 to limit prostitution services' access to clients by asking advertising outlets, including newspapers and telephone directories, not to publish ads for escort services and other adult entertainment.
The Weekly initially complied, Zambouros said, but now has more such ads for escort services than ever.
"We've never called anyone dealing with these ads who was not providing prostitution services," he said.
Steve Mason, the newspaper's lawyer, claimed the arrests were retribution for repeatedly reporting on MBI's activities as "the morality police" and that "there is no doubt in my mind that, irrespective of what the MBI says, they have a grudge and vendetta towards the Orlando Weekly."
Lutz dismissed the allegations as absurd.
The arrests raised questions of whether MBI will take on Craigslist, the popular Internet networking site. MBI recently wrote a letter to the CEO of Craigslist asking that the Internet site eliminate daily postings of more than 100 suspected prostitutes in the Orlando area.
Craigslist had not responded by Friday to a letter from Zambouros or to a request for comment from the Orlando Sentinel.
This week, a pimp for a prostitute hired off Craigslist was shot to death when he tried to rob the Orange County men who hired her and another woman for sex, investigators said.
MBI does not have the legal authority to persuade the San Francisco-based Web site to drop its Erotica category, Lutz said. Craigslist is not legally a publisher and does not advise its subscribers on what to post, he said.
The Weekly, however, "is a publishing company, and it's not in San Francisco. It's in Orlando," Lutz said. "Basically, there was no other recourse for us to resolve this problem other than to bring it to the criminal-justice system."
Two years ago, a grand jury in Tennessee indicted an advertising salesman for the Nashville Scene newspaper in a similar case. Nels Noseworthy was accused of selling ads to undercover officers who explicitly said they were in the prostitution business, the Tennessean reported.
But the government later dropped the case. The newspaper took steps to better police its ads.
Orlando Sentinel spokeswoman Ashley Allen said the newspaper does not accept advertisements for escorts or escort services.
April Hunt, Walter Pacheco, Jim Leusner and Sarah Langbein of the Sentinel staff contributed to this report. Henry Pierson Curtis can be reached at orlandosentinel.com.
[b]Statement by Orlando Weekly's publisher:[/b]
Orlando Weekly believes these arrests are an outrageous abuse of process and an attempt to censor the First Amendment rights of a newspaper that has reported critically on the Metropolitan Bureau of Investigation. We are in the process of reviewing the charges and retaining counsel.
For more information on our investigative reports about the MBI, go to [url]www.orlandoweekly.com[/url].
Rick Schreiber
Here is a link to an older report detailing the sordid history of the MBI and the corrupt retards who profit by drawing
their salaries to throw tax money around while hanging out at strip clubs if they aren't already busy being paid to
watch porn or dreaming up fake ads to place on CL.
While they abuse the pubilc trust to get their own rocks off, they cost us all millions of tax dollars every year on a
long stream of failed cases that are usually dismissed or settled on minor charges before they ever have the
chance to be laughed out of a courtroom.
Of course, I had better move to Canada now, since the MBI director has publicly stated that he thinks that the
very idea that freedom of speech is protected by the United States Consititution is "absurd."
[url]http://www.orlandoweekly.com/features/story.asp?id=3163[/url]
Here is a short excerpt from the article:
"The MBI has a well-earned reputation for [b]ruthlessness[/b] when it comes to driving adult businesses out of Central Florida. Its agents and prosecutors have [b] harassed[/b] and [b] intimidated[/b] witnesses, [b]lied[/b] about investigations, [b]trumped up charges[/b] against old ladies and [b]spent hundreds of thousands[/b] of tax dollars -- as was the case in the infamous Rachel's investigation -- to coax a handful of people into committing petty crimes. No wonder the MBI is the [b]most reviled[/b] law-enforcement agency in Central Florida. [b]"What a waste of fucking money,"[/b] says Doug Head, chair of the Orange County Democratic Party." {Emphasis added}
It seems logical that the publisher of the Orlando Weekly might have a valid point when he says that his employees
were simply arrested in a attempt to censor him from continuing to publish this sort of exposé on the tactics of the
"Morality Police," doesn't it?
The MBI also went after the Big Woof about 5 yrs ago and after spending millions of bucks on both sides the sight is still up, they intimidated tons of girls ,threatening them all for basically nothing ....or was it?
They got lots of publicity which makes the Christian Right feel smug in the idea that their P.D. and politicians are protecting them from the sinners and fornicators.
One problem with that is their phony leaders are butt fking little boys (Catholic Church has spent over a billion dollars in California alone on settlements). Jim Baker screwed Jessica Hahn. Jimmy Swaggert was doing nasty ugly Sw's and got up in front of his followers and cried and they "forgave" him and continued to send him their money.
Jesus was doing Mary Magdelin, some say he married her, some say he was gay and I think he didn't existed at all. Why? because whenever an archeologist purports to have found his bones the Christians go nuts because if they find his bones their whole religion goes up in smoke( Easter Sunday, risen and all that crap)
Ted ,whats his name, the leader of the mega church in Colorado who bragged on 60 min . that he could call the president and did, any time he wanted to, was doing Meth and doing a call boy in Denver while he was supposed to be in seclusion in Denver writing one of his best selling books. And on and on, these are only the one's caught, imagine how many of these priests, ministers, mullahs, rabbi's, politicians, policemen etc are partying each and every day. You all know how many of us are partaking in the "hobby" or should I say fornicating each and every day in every city in the world and only the guys who don't read this site and don't know the secrets of beating the "system" get caught.
Just look at the OSCO site and see who gets caught, most don't look literate. So just imagine how many people are "sinning" and don't get caught.
When I was in New York I would see the cops pick up a WSW put her in the car drive up the block into an alley and 15 min later they would drive off and the SW would walk out of the alley, I wonder what went on? that was 30 yrs ago, nothing changes.
We are a nation of Hypocrites we say one thing and do another and we're not alone, in Iraq they import prostitutes from Bangledesh so as not to defile Muslim women, good solid religious thinking HUH. Nothing is going to change so say hello to your minister for me on Sunday!!! And don't get caught you lawbreaking, heathen fornicators---- L.O.L.----VS
This is report #333, I can't wait until report # 666 that is the mark of the beast you know, woooooooo.
[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.[/blue][/size]
[url]http://www.orlandoweekly.com/features/story.asp?id=11910[/url]
[url]http://www.orlandoweekly.com/mbi/statement.pdf[/url]
[url]http://www.orlandoweekly.com/mbi/mbiQuestions.pdf[/url]
[QUOTE=Solomonger][url]http://www.orlandoweekly.com/features/story.asp?id=11910[/url]
[url]http://www.orlandoweekly.com/mbi/statement.pdf[/url]
[url]http://www.orlandoweekly.com/mbi/mbiQuestions.pdf[/url][/QUOTE]
Great stuff Solo!!!
PHFJ
Look out girls / The next 5 days will end you in Jail - w4m - 35
[quote]Reply to: [email]pers-458682007@craigslist.org[/email]
Date: 2007-10-24, 6:36PM EDT
Major Busts going down in all Orange County tonight thru
Sunday .
Im a hobbist but i also have a day job as a clerk of courts
There is a Major operation in effect tonight thru Monday morning
Targeting All Incall and outcall girls on Craigslist and any
Escort services working Orange county .
If you have to work Make the guys strip down cause there are 6teams of
4 that are working over time going in wired up .
Please be safe
Location: all Orange county
it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests
PostingID: 458682007[/quote]