Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;2969445]1. Dude, I don't care how fat, nasty, ugly, flat assed a chic is, as long as her legs go up and out some dudes will still plow it. I've seen the most ugliest fattest chic get reviews. Most of you dudes will fuck anything![/QUOTE]Ain't that the fucking truth! Look, I'm not criticizing anyone for their personal preferences in pussy, nor am I saying I've never fucked some ugly-ass chick, we've all done that shit. What I don't get is why guys pay money for that shit, and then do it over and over. There are tons of fat ugly ho's on BP, and they ain't staying in business with just a couple customers. Hell, you can go to your local Kroger and with any game at all pick up a fat ugly chick and be nuts deep in her asshole within the hour for no cash at all. I just don't get it.

Dude do you have the appearance of a thug or something? The police who work memorial beat knows she's a ho and Sassy been on memorial Dr for 20 yrs+! Doing the same stuff you got busted for. Did you tell her more than what you told us? I never known for the police to give a guy a pimping charge without some guy telling her perhaps I can turn you on to something of my buddies. You don't have to discuss your legal status with us but you just have a none serious minor charge.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;2968772]232 A procuring others for hired sex acts.

What can Anyone tell me about this charge? Misdemeanor, ordinance violation or Felony??

LEO says it won't be on record but I don't trust LEO and they don't know everything.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PayForItAnyway;2969457]They charged you with pimping. Are you a closet pimp?[/QUOTE]Dammit man, I ain't got the money. The original charge on the ticket says "loitering for sex".

Officer says its a municipal / ordinance issue but I'm still worried.

Why do I HAVE TO go to court? The ticket fine is 337, why can't I pay it and keep it moving?

I wish you guys knew more but I'm pretty sure I'm not charged with pimping.

I'm just worried if procuring is the same as soliciting. I don't want a felony or misdemeanor on my record.

Damn this stuff is scary.

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;2969759]Dude do you have the appearance of a thug or something? The police who work memorial beat knows she's a ho and Sassy been on memorial Dr for 20 yrs+! Doing the same stuff you got busted for. Did you tell her more than what you told us? I never known for the police to give a guy a pimping charge without some guy telling her perhaps I can turn you on to something of my buddies. You don't have to discuss your legal status with us but you just have a none serious minor charge.[/QUOTE]Prostitution-Related Crimes.

The crimes of prostitution, pimping, and pandering are closely related, but refer to separate conduct.

Prostitution consists of performing, or offering or agreeing to perform a sexual act for anything of value. The act itself need not have taken place, nor must the money (or other valuable thing) have actually been delivered. (Ga. Code Ann. § 16-6-9.).

Pimping occurs when someone:

•offers or agrees to obtain a prostitute for another.

•offers or agrees to arrange a meeting for purposes of prostitution.

•directs or transports another person somewhere for the purpose of prostitution.

•receives the earnings of a prostitute, or.

•aids, advises, or commands an act of prostitution. (Ga. Code Ann. § 16-6-11.).

Pandering involves either.

•soliciting someone to engage in prostitution on his or her behalf, or on behalf of a third person, or.

•gathering people together for the purpose of being solicited to engage in prostitution. (Ga. Code Ann. § 16-6-12.).

For example, someone who tries to persuade a young woman to have sex with men for money so that the two can share in the proceeds has committed pandering. So has someone who hosts a "party" with young women in attendance with the goal of convincing them to become prostitutes.

It is also a distinct crime to keep a place of prostitution—that is, to allow the use of one's property for prostitution. (Ga. Code Ann. § 16-6-10.).

Penalties for Prostitution Crimes.

Prostitution itself is a misdemeanor in Georgia. Pimping, pandering, and keeping a place of prostitution are "high and aggravated" misdemeanors unless certain, additional circumstances are present, in which case they become felonies. Additional consequences to jail time may also apply. These consequences and aggravating circumstances are described below. (Ga. Code Ann. § 16-6-13.).

Pandering: publication and medical testing.

Those convicted of pandering will have their convictions, along with their addresses and identifying photographs, published in the county where the offense occurred. If someone convicted of pandering receives probation, he or she must submit to testing for sexually transmitted diseases and consent to the results being released to his or her spouse, if any. (Ga. Code Ann. §§ 16-6-13,16-6-13.1.).

Pandering by compulsion.

If someone commits pandering by compulsion—using duress or coercion to cause a person to perform an act of prostitution—the offense is a felony, and the punishment will be between one and 10 years' imprisonment. (Ga. Code Ann. § 16-6-14.).

[QUOTE=BigMoney21;2969759]Dude do you have the appearance of a thug or something? The police who work memorial beat knows she's a ho and Sassy been on memorial Dr for 20 yrs+! Doing the same stuff you got busted for. Did you tell her more than what you told us? I never known for the police to give a guy a pimping charge without some guy telling her perhaps I can turn you on to something of my buddies. You don't have to discuss your legal status with us but you just have a none serious minor charge.[/QUOTE]The charge is HUGE for me because I have a clean record with no felony's, arrests, or misdemeanors.

This charge still doesn't make sense.

The official charge is: "procuring others for hired sex acts".

WTF does that mean, exactly?

Is that the same as solicitation?

I though the prostitution related charges in GA were:

1) solicitation of a prostitute.

2) pimping / pandering.

3) harboring sex workers.

4) underaged prostitution.

So what exactly is "procuring others for hired sex acts?

Is this a misdemeanor, felony, ordinance or just a fine?

So confusing, wouldn't they arrest me if it was anything serious? Instead of just writing me a citation / ticket?

Come on, got to be some intelligent mongers familiar with the law in GA.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;2969964]The charge is HUGE for me because I have a clean record with no felony's, arrests, or misdemeanors.

This charge still doesn't make sense.

The official charge is: "procuring others for hired sex acts".

WTF does that mean, exactly?

Is that the same as solicitation?

I though the prostitution related charges in GA were:

1) solicitation of a prostitute.

2) pimping / pandering.

3) harboring sex workers.

4) underaged prostitution.

So what exactly is "procuring others for hired sex acts?

Is this a misdemeanor, felony, ordinance or just a fine?

So confusing, wouldn't they arrest me if it was anything serious? Instead of just writing me a citation / ticket?

Come on, got to be some intelligent mongers familiar with the law in GA.[/QUOTE]This is what I've found from a basic google search. This comes from the fulton county code book, and is described as a loitering charge. But I think it should be similar throughout georgia.

46-142. For purpose of procuring others to engage in sexual acts for hire.

Latest version.

(a) It shall be unlawful for any person to loiter, as defined in section 46-141, in or near any thoroughfare or place open to the public in a manner and under circumstances manifesting the purpose of inducing, enticing, soliciting, pandering, or procuring another to commit a sexual act for hire. This section is not intended to limit any person from exercising their right to assemble or engage in any other constitutionally protected activity. This section applies to all persons with the requisite intent to induce another to engage in a sexual act for hire.

(b) A police officer who observes a person loitering under circumstances that provide the officer with an articulable suspicion to believe a sexual act for hire has occurred or is occurring. May detain the individual for the purpose of investigating whether the person is in violation of this section.

(c) Among the circumstances which may be considered in determining whether such purpose is manifested are: that such person is a known prostitute, pimp or "john"; repeatedly beckons to, stops or attempts to stop, or engages passers-by in conversation; or repeatedly stops or attempts to stop motor vehicle operators by hailing, waving of arms or any bodily gesture. Unless flight by the person or other circumstances make it impracticable, a law enforcement officer shall, prior to any arrest for an offense under this section, afford the person an opportunity to dispel any alarm or immediate concern which would otherwise be warranted by requesting the person to identify himself or herself and explain his or her presence and conduct. No person shall be convicted of an offense under this section if the law enforcement officer fails to comply with the foregoing procedure or if it appears at trial that the explanation given by the person was true and would have dispelled the alarm or immediate concern.

(d) For purposes of this section "sexual act for hire" means conduct which constitutes an offense defined in O. C. G. A. Tit. 16, ch. 6, as amended; conduct which constitutes complicity to commit such an offense; or conduct which constitutes conspiracy to commit such an offense.

(e) Any person in violation of this section shall be guilty of the offense of loitering for the purpose of committing a sexual act for hire.

(Ord. No. 11-0894, Exh. A, 10-5-11).

[QUOTE=TheParrot;2969964]The charge is HUGE for me because I have a clean record with no felony's, arrests, or misdemeanors.

This charge still doesn't make sense.

The official charge is: "procuring others for hired sex acts".

WTF does that mean, exactly?

Is that the same as solicitation?

I though the prostitution related charges in GA were:

1) solicitation of a prostitute.

2) pimping / pandering.

3) harboring sex workers.

4) underaged prostitution.

So what exactly is "procuring others for hired sex acts?

Is this a misdemeanor, felony, ordinance or just a fine?

So confusing, wouldn't they arrest me if it was anything serious? Instead of just writing me a citation / ticket?

Come on, got to be some intelligent mongers familiar with the law in GA.[/QUOTE]The situation has nothing to do with me, but with the information that buddy provided below, I'm able to understand the charges. "Procuring others for hired sex acts". To my understanding and I may be wrong, it's kind of like having a party where there are going to be girls having sex with dudes. Just using the example that it gave. That's why folks on here asked you if you are not telling the whole story or if your a closet pimp. Maybe I'm wrong.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;2969964]The charge is HUGE for me because I have a clean record with no felony's, arrests, or misdemeanors.

This charge still doesn't make sense.

The official charge is: "procuring others for hired sex acts".

WTF does that mean, exactly?

Is that the same as solicitation?

I though the prostitution related charges in GA were:

1) solicitation of a prostitute.

2) pimping / pandering.

3) harboring sex workers.

4) underaged prostitution.

So what exactly is "procuring others for hired sex acts?

Is this a misdemeanor, felony, ordinance or just a fine?

So confusing, wouldn't they arrest me if it was anything serious? Instead of just writing me a citation / ticket?

Come on, got to be some intelligent mongers familiar with the law in GA.[/QUOTE]Don't pay the ticket, go to court and plea NOT GUILTY, if you pay that means you're admitting to the offense. You can tell them you were arguing over anything. How can they prove it was over sex, shit it could have been over drugs.

[QUOTE=JohnnyMapalo;2969445]I'm typing this on my phone as I recently broke my laptop screen trying to smash a pesky ass fly that wouldn't get off my screen. LOL.[/QUOTE]Goddamn JM, never change man LOL. Everything you post is not only good info but funny as shit too.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;2969964]The charge is HUGE for me because I have a clean record with no felony's, arrests, or misdemeanors.

This charge still doesn't make sense.

The official charge is: "procuring others for hired sex acts".

WTF does that mean, exactly?

Is that the same as solicitation?

I though the prostitution related charges in GA were:

1) solicitation of a prostitute.

2) pimping / pandering.

3) harboring sex workers.

4) underaged prostitution.

So what exactly is "procuring others for hired sex acts?

Is this a misdemeanor, felony, ordinance or just a fine?

So confusing, wouldn't they arrest me if it was anything serious? Instead of just writing me a citation / ticket?

Come on, got to be some intelligent mongers familiar with the law in GA.[/QUOTE]This isn't the place to come for legal advice (even though plenty will be willing to give it).

What you need is a First Amendment attorney (who also does criminal law) like Alan Begner, Wiggins Law group, etc. And just explain that the crucial thing is keeping the record clean (something they can negotiate on since you have no priors.).

My 2 cents.

O.

[QUOTE=Ozymandias;2972217]This isn't the place to come for legal advice (even though plenty will be willing to give it).

What you need is a First Amendment attorney (who also does criminal law) like Alan Begner, Wiggins Law group, etc. And just explain that the crucial thing is keeping the record clean (something they can negotiate on since you have no priors.).

My 2 cents.

O.[/QUOTE]Best advice in this thread, thanks. Now If only I had the cash.

My summer is now ruined because of this stupid charge of 337, it really messed up my monger budget.

All the new SW I'm seeing are now out of reach for lack of funds.

If only I didn't make that one stupid mistake! Now I'll be stuck with a dry dick all summer!!

Sorting out the cash now, and good legal representation, may be worth it over a record.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;2972245]Best advice in this thread, thanks. Now If only I had the cash.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheParrot;2969764]Dammit man, I ain't got the money. The original charge on the ticket says "loitering for sex".

Officer says its a municipal / ordinance issue but I'm still worried.

Why do I HAVE TO go to court? The ticket fine is 337, why can't I pay it and keep it moving?

I wish you guys knew more but I'm pretty sure I'm not charged with pimping.

I'm just worried if procuring is the same as soliciting. I don't want a felony or misdemeanor on my record.

Damn this stuff is scary.[/QUOTE]Some friendly advice. You DO NOT want to prosecutor connecting the dots and tying you to the person posting these questions on here. Once they've read this thread, they will have a stroll through your past posts.

[QUOTE=TheParrot;2979419]My summer is now ruined because of this stupid charge of 337, it really messed up my monger budget.

All the new SW I'm seeing are now out of reach for lack of funds.

If only I didn't make that one stupid mistake! Now I'll be stuck with a dry dick all summer!![/QUOTE]I am no legal expert, but over the years have had a few run ins over this stuff. You may want a lawyer. Is the charge a felony or misdemeanor? Misdemeanor is not such a big deal. In most states you can get the record expunged after some period. Also in GA I believe you can plead nolo and it is not pleading guilt, but you will get a fine and some other stuff. Go to one of those lawyers that will talk to you for $25 consult and go from there. Back in the day in NYC the cops were good, they would give you a no seat belt fine and tell you not to come back. In FL I got wrapped up in a sting and went nolo, sealed record and then expunged, I sent paperwork to FL to pull my record a few years later and they had no record of me. I never do street walkers now because that is too easy to get nabbed. I actually stick to a small circle or well reviewed gals. Pay for the lawyer, it will likely run you from $1000-$2000 when you are all done, but worth it.