Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=Mongeroose]During my last visit with Susie at Star I noticed a frosted gray dome above my massage table. I was in one of the rooms that faced M Street. I wondered if there was a camera hiding behind that dome since it looked similar to ones I've seen for security in other establishments. It was difficult to tell since the lights were dim, but I would be concerned for my privacy if there is a possibility that I'm being recorded. I had not noticed this on my previous visit to Star in a room that faced the alley. Can anyone confirm this? Do they use it for safety purposes? Any guarantee they are not recording?

Thanks[/QUOTE]I had an M street facing room as well. I sincerely hope not. It would hurt both customers and providers and not help anyone at all.

Tried out Herndon Therapy. Only one therapist available, an older provider named Yuni. Her look was not my personal preference, but she worked hard to satisfy. Service and prices were standard (60/40).

[QUOTE=Ginger Man]This is a good model for newcomers out there. Just like this is okay.[/QUOTE]

The only problem with the report is we have no idea which AMP he is talking about....or maybe thats the point?

[QUOTE=Roamin Roman]Well, pardon me for liking what I like. And, I don't think I'm the only one who likes older providers. Your tastes are obviously different from a lot of other people on this board. But, it's quite a leap of logic to just say (rather presumptuously, I might add) that people in DC have simply surrendered the fight and accept what's given to them. (It's easy to judge others when you're standing on Mount Olympus.)Well, those areas are further out for us, in the DC Metro area, but it might be that these areas are a LOT closer in for the girls that actually work there. Rent is lower in the areas you mention than it is in the DC area. That could explain your hypothesis. Think about it. It's not mismanagement, but more likely shrewd management. Older providers will gather more customers in the DC area, where more mongers prefer them. The younger gals will gather just as many customers in Woodbridge or B'more as they will in DC. So, as an AMP operator, it makes sense to place your assets where they will generate maximum revenue. And, it might also be that the providers themselves work where they do because it's [u]their[/u] preference. Again, this is perhaps largely due to rent and housing prices. Younger providers may not be able to afford something closer in, while the older providers may very likely be able to afford to live (and work) in the DC Metro area. Just a couple observations that go beyond a simplistic "right angle" type of reasoning. Hope that helps.

RR[/QUOTE]

What you seem to be ignoring R::R is that in the vast majority of cases, providers never actually live near the AMP where they work. They actually live in the AMP. There are many reasons for this. For example, many providers don't drive.

If you were to ask them where they "come from", or what they consider to be their home base, they would tell you "Flushing." That is in Queens for those who don't know. As most of you know, providers often don't stay at a particular spa for very long. For a variety of reasons, they move about the country. This would be difficult if they were to set up housekeeping in every city where they landed.

Therefore I think that the reason one particular area has older providers and another has younger ones, has nothing at all to do with rents. It may just be the preference of the ladies for where they wish to work. Interesting question though.

LexLuther

You're absolutely right Lex. Many of them that I know enjoy being able to go back to where they call hone on vacation and walk around the malls shopping etc. without running into someone they know from an AMP. Especially when most of them have a SO, boyfriend, or family they live with.


[QUOTE=LexLuther]What you seem to be ignoring R::R is that in the vast majority of cases, providers never actually live near the AMP where they work. They actually live in the AMP. There are many reasons for this. For example, many providers don't drive.

If you were to ask them where they "come from", or what they consider to be their home base, they would tell you "Flushing." That is in Queens for those who don't know. As most of you know, providers often don't stay at a particular spa for very long. For a variety of reasons, they move about the country. This would be difficult if they were to set up housekeeping in every city where they landed.

Therefore I think that the reason one particular area has older providers and another has younger ones, has nothing at all to do with rents. It may just be the preference of the ladies for where they wish to work. Interesting question though.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Drunker Irish]The only problem with the report is we have no idea which AMP he is talking about....or maybe thats the point?[/QUOTE]Read the title of his report.

[QUOTE=Roamin Roman]Those areas are further out for us, in the DC Metro area, but it might be that these areas are a LOT closer in for the girls that actually work there. Rent is lower in the areas you mention than it is in the DC area. That could explain your hypothesis. Think about it. It's not mismanagement, but more likely shrewd management. Older providers will gather more customers in the DC area, where more mongers prefer them. The younger gals will gather just as many customers in Woodbridge or B'more as they will in DC. So, as an AMP operator, it makes sense to place your assets where they will generate maximum revenue. And, it might also be that the providers themselves work where they do because it's [u]their[/u] preference. Again, this is perhaps largely due to rent and housing prices. Younger providers may not be able to afford something closer in, while the older providers may very likely be able to afford to live (and work) in the DC Metro area.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=LexLuther]What you seem to be ignoring R::R is that in the vast majority of cases, providers never actually live near the AMP where they work. They actually live in the AMP. There are many reasons for this. For example, many providers don't drive.

If you were to ask them where they "come from", or what they consider to be their home base, they would tell you "Flushing." That is in Queens for those who don't know. As most of you know, providers often don't stay at a particular spa for very long. For a variety of reasons, they move about the country. This would be difficult if they were to set up housekeeping in every city where they landed.

Therefore I think that the reason one particular area has older providers and another has younger ones, has nothing at all to do with rents. It may just be the preference of the ladies for where they wish to work. Interesting question though.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=A John]You're absolutely right Lex. Many of them that I know enjoy being able to go back to where they call hone on vacation and walk around the malls shopping etc. without running into someone they know from an AMP. Especially when most of them have a SO, boyfriend, or family they live with.[/QUOTE]
Believe it or not, I actually [u]have[/u] asked an AMP girl, on many occasions, where she lived (as well as where she 'was from'). This was usually in response to her asking the same question of me. In some cases, the girl drove a fair distance (say, from Rockville to work in a Virginia AMP), while in other cases the girl lived close by (relatively speaking). And, in some few cases that I've encountered (your findings are apparently different), the girl was actually living at the AMP. In all cases, though, I never got the impression that any of the girls [u]owned[/u] a home or apartment, but instead were renting for longer or shorter periods of time, or possibly even renting a room with some other non-AMP girls who were either aware or unaware of the AMP girl's occupation. There's a lot of options in regard to where an AMP girl lives.

I still maintain that lower rent prices, being generally cheaper in the outer metro regions, explains the preponderence of younger girls at AMPs in those regions. It may not fully explain it, but I'd wager it explains it in part. As for the propensity for AMPs closer in to have older gals, rent again plays a large part in that, IMO. But, the (presumed) reliability of older gals might also be a factor. In any respect, I entirely reject the simplistic notion that AMPs close to DC have older gals simply because we've somehow "given up" demanding "better" and that we've capitulated to some dire plot to foist older women on an area that has one of the highest [i]per capita[/i] incomes and, thus, disposable liesure budgets in the country. But, until we conduct a scientific survey and control for various factors, we're just tossing around opinions. But it is, like Lex said, an interesting point of inquiry.

R::R

[QUOTE=LexLuther]I believe it is a completely misguided statement to say that Washington, DC has the best AMP scene in the nation as Mr. Nuke has affirmed. There are many places which are much better. Honolulu comes to mind.

With respect to prices, it comes back to simple economics. Supply and demand. Mongers live on the demand side and providers live on the supply side. Increase supply relative to demand (or decrease demand relative to supply) and the two oppositely sloping curves will intersect at a lower price point. It's that simple. Just as with any other good or service.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]


I should have said that we have 'ONE' of the best AMP scenes in the nation. I believe that is a true statement and is what I basically meant. I just don't want us to discount the scene we have here or its potential, which it is not, in my opinion, living up to.

You are correct in that Honolulu is good also. Since Hawaii is mostly Asian anyway, what would one expect?

Also, Vancouver, Toronto and Montreal, major cities of our closest neighbor, are fantastic!

I stand corrected....

Nuke

[QUOTE=LexLuther]What you seem to be ignoring R::R is that in the vast majority of cases, providers never actually live near the AMP where they work. They actually live in the AMP. There are many reasons for this. For example, many providers don't drive.

If you were to ask them where they "come from", or what they consider to be their home base, they would tell you "Flushing." That is in Queens for those who don't know. As most of you know, providers often don't stay at a particular spa for very long. For a variety of reasons, they move about the country. This would be difficult if they were to set up housekeeping in every city where they landed.

Therefore I think that the reason one particular area has older providers and another has younger ones, has nothing at all to do with rents. It may just be the preference of the ladies for where they wish to work. Interesting question though.

LexLuther[/QUOTE]

That is true here in DC. However, over the years I have followed many providers in Maryland who have set roots, raised families, and owned homes. The owner of One Spa and at least one of the providers in Jade Shiatsu come to mind. But that is there, and not here.

In DC, there are some providers from Annandale and Crystal City who have worked off and on. But, on the whole, your 'Flushing' point is true here.

[QUOTE=Corsair88]Read the title of his report.[/QUOTE]

LOL

I never read the titles...that'll teach me. Minor League mistake, will never make All Star VIP if I don't pay more attention.

Pre-lunch time visit as I had some time and getting a bit tired of the street scene.

Tried Yumi, and what a green gem. She has a big round head, but cute. Very curly light reddish hair. Nice to have something a little different than straight black. 5' nothing, nice body B cups, probably about 30-35 years on the chassis.

Nana was busy so tried the 'new' girl. Very accomodating, all the right places washed and followed up with, and she is incredibly 'tight' :0 . Open to pretty much everything, and nice little hands with a very good massage. Standard fees, no inflated prices.

Hard to explain, but everything was at just the right pace, not too fast, not too slow--just right. Put her easily at my top 10 providers. Not outstanding in any one area but very good in all areas.

The 'pace' of events was just right and the right tempo, and good service. Will definately repeat.

[QUOTE=Drunker Irish]Pre-lunch time visit as I had some time and getting a bit tired of the street scene.

Tried Yumi, and what a green gem. She has a big round head, but cute. Very curly light reddish hair. Nice to have something a little different than straight black. 5' nothing, nice body B cups, probably about 30-35 years on the chassis.

Nana was busy so tried the 'new' girl. Very accomodating, all the right places washed and followed up with, and she is incredibly 'tight' :0 . Open to pretty much everything, and nice little hands with a very good massage. Standard fees, no inflated prices.

Hard to explain, but everything was at just the right pace, not too fast, not too slow--just right. Put her easily at my top 10 providers. Not outstanding in any one area but very good in all areas.

The 'pace' of events was just right and the right tempo, and good service. Will definately repeat.[/QUOTE]

Is we don't know the AMP!!!!

Just yanking your chain....;-)

[QUOTE=Ginger Man]Just yanking your chain....;-)[/QUOTE]OH, yous guys! Stop it already.

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Went today in early afternoon and had the fortune to meet CeeCee (? ). Tall (5’4) slim, but well (and softly) endowed. Asked whether I had been there before and I lied yes, but must have not been too convincing, so she took me to the shower somewhat reserved. Shower, though, was nice and covered all the right palces. To ease the mood when getting to the room, I left the tip visibly on the table and she became much more relaxed.

Very soft touch massage and nice Pacific skills. She was also quite happy for me to reciproacate, very sweet brown eye and pussy, though she was just trimmed and the feeling was prickly. Turned to great 69 and a very skillful squat, which is where I already lost it.

She was very sweet after, we chatted a bit (quite ok English, she said she came from Atlanta), she did the demure clothing and shoe tying thing and promised more fun next tiem. Definte repeat. And, yes, standard fees.

[QUOTE=Ginger Man]Is we don't know the AMP!!!!

Just yanking your chain....;-)[/QUOTE]I will give you a little hint. Green. Another clue is "Nana". Also, here is a little intel for you. Rio bit the dust last Sunday but will rise again.