The Sugar World

[QUOTE=HolyStone1975;7582633]How many of the Vegas girls on SA / SB are willing to do unpaid M&G? I bet that number is pretty low. But unpaid is fine, if you can get them to agree to it. He's talking about taking them on a date first which isn't 'unpaid'.[/QUOTE]I haven't been on seeking in a while (maybe more than a year now), but when I was on the site I was clear that we must start with a meet & greet. They were always public and low stakes like lunch or coffee or drinks. While respectful and kind, I was always very clear and upfront that I would cover the cost for the meet and greet but will not pay them for their time. Usually your time is more valuable than theirs, otherwise you would not have the money for this hobby, the money they are seeking to get from you. Never forget that! This method has allowed me to weed out women that will not work for me. If you establish your rules, they either fall in line or challenge the rules. I have found that the ones who challenge my rules (example: "I have to be paid for my time") will not work for me. There are so many who have said yes to the M&G and I have been able to select wonderful SBs, while weeding out crazies, druggies, straight up sex workers that you can find on other sites (not opposed just not looking for that on seeking, women with attitudes or gps, etc.). It's simple for me and works 10 out of 10 times. It's what allows me to only be on seeking for one month and make use of that one month for years.

P.S. I might be jumping back on soon. One of my SBs just moved out of town, another got engaged, one wanted a real relationship with me so I had to cut that off, another decided to get gps. I am down to one regular. I feel like I am in sexual poverty. LOL.

[QUOTE=SeckSee1;7583146]I haven't been on seeking in a while (maybe more than a year now), but when I was on the site I was clear that we must start with a meet & greet. They were always public and low stakes like lunch or coffee or drinks. While respectful and kind, I was always very clear and upfront that I would cover the cost for the meet and greet but will not pay them for their time. Usually your time is more valuable than theirs, otherwise you would not have the money for this hobby, the money they are seeking to get from you. Never forget that! This method has allowed me to weed out women that will not work for me. If you establish your rules, they either fall in line or challenge the rules. I have found that the ones who challenge my rules (example: "I have to be paid for my time") will not work for me. There are so many who have said yes to the M&G and I have been able to select wonderful SBs, while weeding out crazies, druggies, straight up sex workers that you can find on other sites (not opposed just not looking for that on seeking, women with attitudes or gps, etc.). It's simple for me and works 10 out of 10 times. It's what allows me to only be on seeking for one month and make use of that one month for years.

P.S. I might be jumping back on soon. One of my SBs just moved out of town, another got engaged, one wanted a real relationship with me so I had to cut that off, another decided to get gps. I am down to one regular. I feel like I am in sexual poverty. LOL.[/QUOTE]I have been very lucky on SB. I have managed to find attractive reasonable girls over the last 6 years who, even if they are dating someone, will meet up when I am in town. I always have 1-2 who I have seen in the past on the hook to come to my room. And because I see most of them more than once, I am in the bbfscip stage with all of them. Last trip I met this cute little 24 yr old who I paid the first time and then she came back twice more during my trip for no cost.

[QUOTE=HolyStone1975;7583589]I have been very lucky on SB. I have managed to find attractive reasonable girls over the last 6 years who, even if they are dating someone, will meet up when I am in town. I always have 1-2 who I have seen in the past on the hook to come to my room. And because I see most of them more than once, I am in the bbfscip stage with all of them. Last trip I met this cute little 24 yr old who I paid the first time and then she came back twice more during my trip for no cost.[/QUOTE]Hell yeah. Good for you, man. So far I'm having huge success on Seeking. Its like gold mine. I spent my entire weekend chatting / vetting girls. Banged one Saturday, have another lined up for Wednesday. I'm pissed at myself for not doing this much sooner. If you know how to play the game, you can have alot of success on this platform. I was going to look at Sugar too but I don't think I have the bandwidth right now LOL.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;7582648]Yeah. I'm with you on that. I'm not giving some chick any money until my dick has been inside them. I've only met up with one SB without an unpaid meet and greet, and in that case we had chatted enough that I felt pretty sure what was up so I just went straight to her place.

It's been a bit since I used any of the SB sites, but I never had any issues getting an unpaid MnG. Things must have changed for the worse.[/QUOTE]Lot's of girls only on site to sell pics and videos. Lot's of jaded former escorts wanting deposits.

[QUOTE=RacerCarl;7583600]Hell yeah. Good for you, man. So far I'm having huge success on Seeking. Its like gold mine. I spent my entire weekend chatting / vetting girls. Banged one Saturday, have another lined up for Wednesday. I'm pissed at myself for not doing this much sooner. If you know how to play the game, you can have alot of success on this platform. I was going to look at Sugar too but I don't think I have the bandwidth right now LOL.[/QUOTE]That's great, glad to hear it. I was exactly in the same boat when I first started using seeking. It was great in the beginning. Sadly the charm will wear off and you start looking at other platforms and those too will eventually wears off. Sorry to be such a downer.

In retrospect, I did find some great gems over the years (on both seeking and sb) just lately it's been bone dry, that and I don't even have active sub on seeking for almost a year now.

To those never been on the platform, definitely give it a go. Sugar dating is like a candy store just opened up. Then you realize you had too much sweet and need to cut back. Lmao.

And agreed on the M&G. It's tough to find any new girls willing to do this (for free anyway) I think the trick is the meet has to be convenient for them (has to be close by, flexible schedule, some place they wanted to go to begin with).

Good luck!!

[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;7584167]That's great, glad to hear it. I was exactly in the same boat when I first started using seeking. It was great in the beginning. Sadly the charm will wear off and you start looking at other platforms and those too will eventually wears off. Sorry to be such a downer.

In retrospect, I did find some great gems over the years (on both seeking and sb) just lately it's been bone dry, that and I don't even have active sub on seeking for almost a year now.

To those never been on the platform, definitely give it a go. Sugar dating is like a candy store just opened up. Then you realize you had too much sweet and need to cut back. Lmao.

And agreed on the M&G. It's tough to find any new girls willing to do this (for free anyway) I think the trick is the meet has to be convenient for them (has to be close by, flexible schedule, some place they wanted to go to begin with).

Good luck!![/QUOTE]Chiming in here from So Cal. Yes, I can attest to what's described here, although I haven't really migrated from one sugar site to the next, I've just stayed on SDM. But since joining last year, there have been occasions where it was akin to a "candy store opening up"! I have had to pause several times, basically cutting back, due to the financial and scheduling aspects, meaning letting some arrangements wraps up and being more selective in what new ones I start up.

OK, I am giving that plastic doll another try this week, she said she is in Vegas until Friday, going to book an incall using my returning customer discount for tomorrow afternoon. She will do BB anal and BBBJ, I'll let you know how it went this time.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e8e2a9d5-9991-4a92-8766-1a33002a57c4[/URL]

She looks like she added some BBL recently.

[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;7584167]That's great, glad to hear it. I was exactly in the same boat when I first started using seeking. It was great in the beginning. Sadly the charm will wear off and you start looking at other platforms and those too will eventually wears off. Sorry to be such a downer.

In retrospect, I did find some great gems over the years (on both seeking and sb) just lately it's been bone dry, that and I don't even have active sub on seeking for almost a year now.

To those never been on the platform, definitely give it a go. Sugar dating is like a candy store just opened up. Then you realize you had too much sweet and need to cut back. Lmao.

And agreed on the M&G. It's tough to find any new girls willing to do this (for free anyway) I think the trick is the meet has to be convenient for them (has to be close by, flexible schedule, some place they wanted to go to begin with).[/QUOTE]I can definitely understand that. I've already realized I need to be more selective and not just engage in every single one because shit I can't keep up (financially and physically LOL). I figure over time this will die down but my goal is to find 2-3 solid girls that I can see whenever and just stick with that. The one I saw on Saturday was cool but she was much heavier than her pics. Sex was good though. I have a real good feeling about the one I'm seeing on Thursday. Then I got two others waiting in the pipeline that ill try to see in the next couple weeks.

I did a M&G with one on Sunday that didn't go anywhere. I just bought her drinks and didn't have to drop anything else which was fine. In hindsight the M&G really isn't necessary when you can settle everything over text. But you got to be direct, ask for exactly what you want & set the expectations before any meeting happens.

[QUOTE=Grail47;7584192]Chiming in here from So Cal. Yes, I can attest to what's described here, although I haven't really migrated from one sugar site to the next, I've just stayed on SDM. But since joining last year, there have been occasions where it was akin to a "candy store opening up"! I have had to pause several times, basically cutting back, due to the financial and scheduling aspects, meaning letting some arrangements wraps up and being more selective in what new ones I start up.[/QUOTE]Yes after taking a chance to step back and evaluate I can feel exactly what you describe. I'm already cutting back. I got a bit ahead of myself this weekend. Never seen so much interest directed my way and I was literally like a kid in a candy store. I couldn't stop. But now I'm slowing it all down and my goal is to find 2-3 good arrangements that I can see whenever and then stop the membership.

[QUOTE=HolyStone1975;7582633]How many of the Vegas girls on SA / SB are willing to do unpaid M&G? I bet that number is pretty low. But unpaid is fine, if you can get them to agree to it. He's talking about taking them on a date first which isn't 'unpaid'.[/QUOTE]I have never paid for an M&G other than the drink or snack and many times just chat in the car but always let them know if we click on the spot we can just go right back to my place. And have met many that I just ordered up straight to my place with no M&G. But I am a low baller. So even a so called bad date is never a total loss. I just never see them again.

Been exploring with Secret Benefits. Whats the strategy for success with this site? I bought 100 credits and it cost 10 credits to unlock messaging for each conversation which is all I need. I haven't got any replies yet. I've messaged back 3 girls who Favorited & Messaged me first. There's all this crap spend 10 credits to unlock more photos, unlock secret questions blah blah.

Is there some other B / S thing I have to drop credits on to get replies? Do I have to spend credits on that silly "Become Top Admirer"?

Any tips appreciated.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/DAzNbao2tiEhjEjjcNEUjohW7txfFXCQM1o0[/URL]

It's been a long time I even got somewhere on sb as I've been slowly burning the rest of my credits (now down to 40).

I had high hopes with her but of course when it comes down to ppm, she quoted 1 k OR a monthly 3 k arrangement.

Tried my usual counter of 50 percent and now it's crickets. Of course. Oh well!

And who's in their right mind will lock in an arrangement without meeting first?

[QUOTE=RacerCarl;7584728]Been exploring with Secret Benefits. Whats the strategy for success with this site? I bought 100 credits and it cost 10 credits to unlock messaging for each conversation which is all I need. I haven't got any replies yet. I've messaged back 3 girls who Favorited & Messaged me first. There's all this crap spend 10 credits to unlock more photos, unlock secret questions blah blah.

Is there some other B / S thing I have to drop credits on to get replies? Do I have to spend credits on that silly "Become Top Admirer"?

Any tips appreciated.[/QUOTE]See title. Not saying you won't get results but I definitely had more luck on seeking than sb (YMMV) The idea of not paying a monthly fee sounds tempting at first till you realize you're dropping almost 3 bucks (assuming you get the batch of 1000 credits) for EVERY message. And for every message you chance of even getting a reply is SLIM. And even if you get a reply, your chance of a follow-up that turns into getting digits, ppm numbers, etc. Are even more slim.

Ignore boosted message, unlock albums, become top admirer bs, just more money pit scams.

Keep in mind sb has some FAKE profiles. Even verified aren't really verified.

100 credits aren't a lot to play with, I suggest you should seek out ACTIVE members (they usually show up on the 1st few pages) that you're interested in, favorite them and see if they're even interested in you. Then stalk them a bit (to make sure they're still active) see if they view your profile back (at least a 2nd time) then finally send her a message and pray she'll reply back.

It's a total crap shoot, good luck!

[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;7585247]See title. Not saying you won't get results but I definitely had more luck on seeking than sb (YMMV) The idea of not paying a monthly fee sounds tempting at first till you realize you're dropping almost 3 bucks (assuming you get the batch of 1000 credits) for EVERY message. And for every message you chance of even getting a reply is SLIM. And even if you get a reply, your chance of a follow-up that turns into getting digits, ppm numbers, etc. Are even more slim.

Ignore boosted message, unlock albums, become top admirer bs, just more money pit scams.

Keep in mind sb has some FAKE profiles. Even verified aren't really verified.

100 credits aren't a lot to play with, I suggest you should seek out ACTIVE members (they usually show up on the 1st few pages) that you're interested in, favorite them and see if they're even interested in you. Then stalk them a bit (to make sure they're still active) see if they view your profile back (at least a 2nd time) then finally send her a message and pray she'll reply back.

It's a total crap shoot, good luck![/QUOTE]Thanks for the info. Yeah given this I think I'm just going to cut my losses and get off SB. Not worth my time & effort. Especially when I'm having so much success on Seeking.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/14884cbd-dcf4-4fd9-8919-823843f0f9ef[/URL]

Looks like Lola Blue that worked at the Chicken Ranch (no longer listed).

FYI in case you're chatting with her, she's definitely not GND. LOL.