Just a quick note to say thanks for all the kind words of support in PM in the last day or so, but wanted to let you know some of you have full inboxes so I was unable to reply there and wanted to let you know I wasn't ignoring your notes. - JL.
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Just a quick note to say thanks for all the kind words of support in PM in the last day or so, but wanted to let you know some of you have full inboxes so I was unable to reply there and wanted to let you know I wasn't ignoring your notes. - JL.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2591799]I honestly have never seen my name on a hotel TV (but then I rarely watch it when traveling). I have had a few that like to pick up the remote and start flipping though. Do you mean the guest's name broadcast on a channel by the hotel, or something like a card with the wi-fi instructions sitting near it?[/QUOTE]Some higher end hotels have the option of bringing up your bill and other info on the television screen via the menu.
Hey guys. I found an intriguing person on SA whose handle is the same as the name of our fair state. Pic attached. Anyone have a dream they can share?
Thanks,
Niceguy.
[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;2591380], have any of you who have read the SB blogs heard of them being told to check the hotel TVs to get our real name? Made the mistake of leaving one in the room recently, she's inexperienced I'm relatively certain in not only being in hotels but also arrangements, and don't think there's any chance she'd know to do this without reading it somewhere. [/QUOTE]You can find that sort of skull duggery from P I 101, not just an SB site or thread.
They way I see it, she is pretty much going to find out if she wants to. I'm in the hotel business, and while hotels strive to keep their guest info confidential (hello Erin Andrews) there are just too many ways for that to fall apart and you to be outed. Simply picking up the phone will get the front desk to read the DID and greet you with "Hello Mr. Whorebanger, how can I help you?
If the woman has as much to lose as you do (career, marriage, reputation) then you can rely on the threat of Mutually Assured Destruction to keep both of you in check and you can be less concerned about her finding stuff out about you.
I try to avoid the very young, stupid and barely employable -- they hve everything to gain, from pregancny, info etc.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2591799]I honestly have never seen my name on a hotel TV (but then I rarely watch it when traveling). [/QUOTE]As part of their integrated friendliness, hotels now have a personalized greeting on the Welcome Screen when you turn on the TV. It will say something like "Welcome Mr. Haywood Jablome, enjoy your stay".
Many even offer video check out and your folio is displayed with your full name and registration information (depends on the system).
So while you are squeezing out that massive dump between dipping your wick in some hottie, she can turn on the TV, flip to video check out and get everything she wanted to know about you, including your real email address in some cases (it asks if you want the receipt emailed to you, and you confirm the address).
[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2591942]As part of their integrated friendliness, hotels now have a personalized greeting on the Welcome Screen when you turn on the TV. It will say something like "Welcome Mr. Haywood Jablome, enjoy your stay".
Many even offer video check out and your folio is displayed with your full name and registration information (depends on the system).
So while you are squeezing out that massive dump between dipping your wick in some hottie, she can turn on the TV, flip to video check out and get everything she wanted to know about you, including your real email address in some cases (it asks if you want the receipt emailed to you, and you confirm the address).[/QUOTE]Man, I must be old school then, I've never seen this. I don't even check out (unless I'm extending the stay), I just throw the keys on the table and leave the door locked.
I would complain to the hotel that it's a security / privacy issue if I saw something like that. Hell half the hotels I've stayed in over the last couple of years don't even have HD yet, and they spent money on something useless like that?
One possible solution: Take along an AppleTV/Chromecast/Roku or something similar to hook up to the TV while she's there. Maybe not even hook it up, just leave everything disconnected and say its a work in progress and you didn't have time to hook it all up and get it working yet. Just plug back in after she leaves. Display porn on an iPad or something if she wants to watch TV.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2591950]Man, I must be old school then, I've never seen this. .[/QUOTE]Guys like us don't take sb's to them there "High Dollar" hotels and stick to the economy class. Seriously, its not like a girl cares for the 2-3 hours you spend there (as long as the sheets look clean). Of course, there are also the guys that are giving their ladies 1000 per visit, maybe those women do care (probably not).
[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;2592007]Guys like us don't take sb's to them there "High Dollar" hotels and stick to the economy class. Seriously, its not like a girl cares for the 2-3 hours you spend there (as long as the sheets look clean). Of course, there are also the guys that are giving their ladies 1000 per visit, maybe those women do care (probably not).[/QUOTE]In my case whenever I'm doing SD related travel, I tend to stay somewhere nice just because part of the reason for the trip is my own "vacation" enjoyment. I don't really do it for the girls benefit as much as I just like a nice location / nice room where I know I'm not going to be adopting bed bugs during my stay, and knowing I can park a nice car in the lot without it getting broken into.
It's very possible that some these places had this on screen and I just didn't notice it. The last place I went was actually a condo that was booked like a hotel, managed like one (pick up keys at off site management office desk) but independently owned (cable and Wi-Fi provided by the owners), so I'm sure that place didn't have it. GF and I did watch TV a bit at that place.
I'm definitely going to pay more attention to this after reading about it in this thread though. In a world of identify theft and privacy issues, I'm surprised hotels would do this. I just don't see the benefit.
Hear, hear!
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2590862]Haven't check in for a day or two, and did this thread turned into a children's playground?
Can we please get back to our regularly "young pussies exploitation" programming?
THANK YOU![/QUOTE]
So how safe are any of the Sugar Sites? Shall we ASS-ume that SA etal will also be hacked sometime? What say you tech savvy guys? Can any organization be protected?
Suicides are starting apparently and world opinion is, of course due to the nanny state and moralists, against the victims (hackees) and not the true criminals -the hackers. Marital infidelity is not against the law last time I looked. Stealing Corporate information and identity theft is. Hopefully the hackers will be caught and punished. Some wealthy and possibly dangerous aggrieved parties might get to them before LE does.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2592106]So how safe are any of the Sugar Sites? Shall we ASS-ume that SA etal will also be hacked sometime? What say you tech savvy guys? Can any organization be protected?
Suicides are starting apparently and world opinion is, of course due to the nanny state and moralists, against the victims (hackees) and not the true criminals -the hackers. Marital infidelity is not against the law last time I looked. Stealing Corporate information and identity theft is. Hopefully the hackers will be caught and punished. Some wealthy and possibly dangerous aggrieved parties might get to them before LE does.[/QUOTE]The sugar sites are no safer than AM. Everything is hackable given enough time / resources / talent. Even if something is secure today, the landscape around it changes such that it may be less secure tomorrow. The reason sugar sites are slightly more safe from this particular attack is that it would take a group of morality police with a different agenda to feel they are a target and go after them. Something could make them want to, such as too much media attention or the realization that so many of its users are married.
But compared side-by-side, a group of hackers smart enough to get in the first place in might surmise "well there might be some illegal or unethical activity that takes place, but there is nothing immoral about the fundamental concept behind it and since many male and female users may be benefitting it is best left alone rather than punish all for the crimes of a few". However, its just as possible that a group of hackers gets even more angry at the idea of older men dating young girls that they decide to do something about it.
Unfortunately the laws of the USA aren't what motivates this sort of "hacktivism". Supposedly the AM attack originated from the Netherlands of all places, and they let you window shop for hoes over there.
But remember there are people in various countries that think all women (including those in our country) should be covered in a shawl at all times. Could they decide that the SD sites are contributing greatly to moral corruption and must be stopped? Of course they could.
Ok guys I am back from a little work trip and catching up on posts. I Had a hugely successful date with the Pot from last week. We had our first M&G. Went to dinner at a local date spot. She looked great and we ended up back at my place for almost 3 solid hours of getting sweaty. You'd never know it talking to her, but what a little nympho. My only concern is that she is on the young side for me. Only 20. I rationalized right past it though "seem mature for her age" LOL. Definitely going into the permanent rotation.
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2592024]
I'm definitely going to pay more attention to this after reading about it in this thread though. In a world of identify theft and privacy issues, I'm surprised hotels would do this. I just don't see the benefit.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the thoughts all. Yeah, I don't stay in super upscale places, but most of the newer SB's at least the first time or two in my experience or not looking to go sleazy on the FC, later that works but I don't take that risk for 1st time when I have a choice piece. Still, I'm not at the Ritz or anything, but even an average hotel has guest info on the tv.
Asking be / see just looking at the older part of the thread where they were reading some of the sugar blogs, which I haven't spent much time on. This girl was younger, not experienced on hotel stays or PI type stuff so don't think she would've gotten the idea on her own. But I do know she checked out some sugar blogs. So she'd only know to do it if she read it there. Between the TV, the phone, the bill under the door, I never let them stay in there by themselves, this was a rookie mistake.
[QUOTE=FScott;2591656]
As an interesting aside, when I pointed out how many SBs there were in the Chicago area in general, she said that was kind of frightening to her, and one of the reasons she wants to be selective. Apparently a good percentage of the women she works with, and knows socially, have some kind of STD, and she just figures that if there are thousands of babies in our area, a lot of them have something communicable as well. Gives one pause, does it not?
[/QUOTE]Depends on what her friends consider a STD. HPV, and HSV-1 (herpes) are both incredibly common and are STDs. Low risk HPV has a prevalence of 42% and high risk is 23% (much higher for younger women). HSV-1 has a 92% prevalence (but experts argue over that number). I've known a few women who break down in tears when told they have HPV (even the low risk types) until they google it and see how common it is.
So I am chatting up a POT online.
And we agree to meet. Asked if she has met men from SA before, and she said yes, a few one time hookups.
Few more messages and she says "just so you know, I have herpes. Not active, no flare ups, taking meds, blah blah blah, but just so you know in case its a problem".
So here is the logical problem. We use protection to prevent pregnancy because we don't believe the girl is on birth control AND to avoid possibly catching an STD. If she would lie about Birth Control, she would lie about being disease free in many instances.
So if we are "protecting" ourselves against women who MIGHT have this or that or MIGHT lie, is that protection not equally effective if the girl is NOT lying and tells you she has an STD. Logically, we are assuming ALL WOMEN might have an STD, so we are protecting ourselves. But how many men would actually fuck a woman KNOWING she had herpes. Probably next to none, at least not in hobby world. Why, because you are exposing yourself to a medical risk. But if you are "protected", the risk is the same since you have to assume someone who did not disclose might be lying.
Its like blackjack -- play like any card you can't see is a face card. Fuck like any woman you are fucking is NOT on birthcontrol or is NOT being truthful about her health status.
But that is not what we do. We kid ourselves and HOPE she is not lying about her disease-free state. But who amongst us would fuck the SB with herpes?
[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2593305]But who amongst us would fuck the SB with herpes?[/QUOTE]I wrote once before about an FB (fuck buddy as opposed to an SB. Although I did always pay for her dinner+drinks) who informed me (after we had unprotected sex multiple times) that she tested positive for HSV-2, but had never had any symptoms. First thing that went through my mind was that I wish she hadn't told me because I wouldn't be able to fuck her after this. I never did get to test that theory out though, because the timing of when she told me was such that we might have never had sex again anyway, due to an actual relationship I had starting at the time. To this day I don't know if she was telling the truth or just trying to get a reaction from me because she saw the writing on the wall and wanted to leave me with something to think about after having fucked her then ended up with someone else. She seemed genuinely down about the diagnosis, but who knows.
But yeah, it would be hard to bring myself to call her up for a fuck after learning that. I had mixed feelings about it after she told me, a combination of respect for her for mentioning it and at the same time hoping she doesn't tell anyone else so she can have a sex life.
nmnmnmnmnm
Regarding STDs: I probably wouldn't take the risk. Even if you could avoid the transmission with protection, you're still vulnerable through oral. Granted, many of probably get cold sores (which is the HSV-1 strain of Herpes) but just not worth it, unless of course you love someone and then it is a different story.
Regarding privacy in hotels, etc: truthfully there are always ways she could figure out your name. Many here have talked about license plates. What happens if you go out to eat and the waiter happens to come back with the bill with your credit card while you are in the john? And so on. This is why I prefer to meet at their place or in a cash-only scenario whenever possible.
Regarding AM hack and SA: yeah, I am freaked out. I'm told there are a couple of things going for it -- one, it is not as high profile, and two, SA does NOT store your credit card info, rather, their processor has that info. Same is true for TER and at least one or two of the online porn sites I patronize (and have used my CC with in my naive years). So I guess you hope that even if a hacker decides to break into TER or SA or imlive or something, they aren't also able to get to the CC side and then pair everything up.
I will say this about SA -- I have quit them and asked to have everything deleted, and they say they cannot do that. The most you can do is deactivate, and if and when you restore, all of your messages are still there. That's a little scary.
Regarding the first fuck: oh yes that is often the best. The trick with something like SA is to make sure you do not make them think it was a one and done, but also don't lead on too much the other way.
[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2593305]So I am chatting up a POT online.
And we agree to meet. Asked if she has met men from SA before, and she said yes, a few one time hookups.
Few more messages and she says "just so you know, I have herpes. Not active, no flare ups, taking meds, blah blah blah, but just so you know in case its a problem".
But who amongst us would fuck the SB with herpes?[/QUOTE]Why --we all would -pussy is pussy. You are naive to think that ANY girl you have sex with does not have some STD. Herpes is ubiquitous with penetration rates in the population of 90+% " Worldwide, ∼90% of people have one or both viruses. HSV-1 is the more prevalent virus, with 65% of persons in the United States having antibodies to HSV-1 " from a public health study. You have a jewel my friend -because she is acting responsibly and informing you. Just ask her to let you know if she thinks she is getting an outbreak. HPV is also common. CDC stats for high risk HPV in 2010 is 20+% in the target age group we are interested in -20-24 yr olds. This doesn't even address all the other STDs.
You pays your money and takes your chances. Or -get out of the kitchen if you can't take the heat.
[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;2593717]
Regarding AM hack and SA: yeah, I am freaked out. I'm told there are a couple of things going for it -- one, it is not as high profile, and two, SA does NOT store your credit card info, rather, their processor has that info. Same is true for TER and at least one or two of the online porn sites I patronize (and have used my CC with in my naive years). So I guess you hope that even if a hacker decides to break into TER or SA or imlive or something, they aren't also able to get to the CC side and then pair everything up.
[/QUOTE]When the hack was announced, AM said there's no way CC info could be published because they don't store it, they only store a transaction I'd. That would be true of most ecommerce sites, however somehow the hackers got this info too (so either AM lied or the hackers were able to hack into a second source of data to cross ref the IDs).
I haven't seen the AM data so I'm not sure exactly what was published, but lots of these companies store the last 4 digits of the CC number along with the transaction num and those last 4 digits might be all the wife needs to confirm that the "John Doe" in the list is in fact their dear hubby "John Doe". Also since mailing address isn't really considered CC info (it could be considered simple membership info), a company could store that and still say they aren't storing CC info without lying, but in the end it would still get a married guy busted with the misses.
Personally I hope AM gets ripped a new one for all their lies, including creating fake female accounts and other fraudulent activities. They are scum just like the hackers that broke in.
[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2593305]So I am chatting up a POT online.
And we agree to meet. Asked if she has met men from SA before, and she said yes, a few one time hookups.
Few more messages and she says "just so you know, I have herpes. Not active, no flare ups, taking meds, blah blah blah, but just so you know in case its a problem".
So here is the logical problem. We use protection to prevent pregnancy because we don't believe the girl is on birth control AND to avoid possibly catching an STD. If she would lie about Birth Control, she would lie about being disease free in many instances.
So if we are "protecting" ourselves against women who MIGHT have this or that or MIGHT lie, is that protection not equally effective if the girl is NOT lying and tells you she has an STD. Logically, we are assuming ALL WOMEN might have an STD, so we are protecting ourselves. But how many men would actually fuck a woman KNOWING she had herpes. Probably next to none, at least not in hobby world. Why, because you are exposing yourself to a medical risk. But if you are "protected", the risk is the same since you have to assume someone who did not disclose might be lying.
Its like blackjack -- play like any card you can't see is a face card. Fuck like any woman you are fucking is NOT on birthcontrol or is NOT being truthful about her health status.
But that is not what we do. We kid ourselves and HOPE she is not lying about her disease-free state. But who amongst us would fuck the SB with herpes?[/QUOTE]You are correct there is no real protection against HSV. People positive for HSV can "shed" the virus asymptotically. Research has shown this happens often.
So what do you do? The first thing is go get a comprehensive STD screen. Odds are you already have HSV1. If so, the likelihood of a coinfection with HSV2 is small. If you don't already have HSV, then you need to weigh the risks versus the rewards. Odds are your baby or UTR are HSV pos.
[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;2593717]
I will say this about SA -- I have quit them and asked to have everything deleted, and they say they cannot do that. The most you can do is deactivate, and if and when you restore, all of your messages are still there. That's a little scary.
[/QUOTE]I asked the same question, and the reply was that they use encryption and take user privacy seriously. Umm thanks now I feel better. Given AM's problem, any site that keeps deleted profiles is going to loose big in the courts.
What I did is change everything on my profile to garbage, and then I deactivated the profile. It's unlikely they're keeping revisions. I also deleted all of my sent and received messages. It may not help, but the best I can do.
[QUOTE=NiceGuy804;2591836]Hey guys. I found an intriguing person on SA whose handle is the same as the name of our fair state. Pic attached. Anyone have a dream they can share?
Thanks,
Niceguy.[/QUOTE]I almost met up with her about 5 months ago. Very flakey. And kinda crazy,. Would go on non-stop about how guys only want sex and she is trying to get money to help her parents and her house has termites and all kinds of things.
Also, she is 51 if I recall. Told me flat out she lied about her age on SA.
YMMV!!
[QUOTE=Krill;2595801]I almost met up with her about 5 months ago. Very flakey. And kinda crazy,. Would go on non-stop about how guys only want sex and she is trying to get money to help her parents and her house has termites and all kinds of things.
Also, she is 51 if I recall. Told me flat out she lied about her age on SA.
YMMV!![/QUOTE]We exchanged a few messages and something didn't add up. Thanks for saving me time.
Not really as no one else on here would be either. In addition to the admissions about fake female accounts, it appears that fewer than 1% of the alleged women subscribers ever checked their messages. How may real women were on there? The 10 or so that were must have problems walking now from getting so much.
https://www.yahoo.com/health/why-women-didnt-actually-use-ashley-madison-127717676167.html
Is there a url that can be shared where a person can go to see if their info is part of the hack? I don't think I ever had an AM account, but I'd like to get out ahead of it if my info is there just in case.
I'm sure we all would appreciate the link!
Thanks,
Scott.
[QUOTE=Beachesnole02;2596516]Not really as no one else on here would be either. In addition to the admissions about fake female accounts, it appears that fewer than 1% of the alleged women subscribers ever checked their messages. How may real women were on there? The 10 or so that were must have problems walking now from getting so much.
https://www.yahoo.com/health/why-women-didnt-actually-use-ashley-madison-127717676167.html[/QUOTE]I made two connections in the first month last year when I was on AM. Neither went very far. One just complained about her husband all the time and the other was always busy with her kids.
[QUOTE=FScott;2596616]Is there a url that can be shared where a person can go to see if their info is part of the hack? I don't think I ever had an AM account, but I'd like to get out ahead of it if my info is there just in case.
I'm sure we all would appreciate the link!
Thanks,
Scott.[/QUOTE]Yep, right here:
[URL]http://www.trustify.info/check[/URL]
[QUOTE=DogSun;2596751]Yep, right here:
[URL]http://www.trustify.info/check[/URL][/QUOTE]There are reports that Trustify is capturing emails of people who use their sight to check and then spamming them. I believe the following can be trusted:
[URL]https://haveibeenpwned.com/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DogSun;2596751]Yep, right here:
[URL]http://www.trustify.info/check[/URL][/QUOTE]There is another one here I mentioned a few posts back: [URL]https://haveibeenpwned.com/[/URL].
One thing to keep in mind about Trustify, it is an online brokerage for private investigation services. That doesn't mean that there is any risk by using their website for the e-mail check versus any of the others, it just means that they are kind of a double-agent because one of the core aspects of their business is to sell services to someone who suspects they are being cheated on. Sort of seems like a conflict of interest to me.
[QUOTE=BradAM;2596755]There are reports that Trustify is capturing emails of people who use their sight to check and then spamming them. I believe the following can be trusted:
[/QUOTE]Wow I didn't see this before I posted my last comment. I had not heard the reports but it's something to keep in mind. On the other hand I like the fact that Trustify points out that having an e-mail address on the list does not prove guilt, anyone could have put an e-mail address into AM by mistake or intentionally.
What I would like if anyone has it, is a first/last name search.
There were some of these that were taken down. Supposedly LE is treating the data as "stolen property", so those who have the list are encouraged not to keep it. I think they shut down some of the sites that had name searches.
Always use a secondary generic email and never use a personnel credit card. Get gift cards, register it on-line to your alter ego and you are good to go on any of the sites. You cares if the site is hacked and your alter ego is released to the public?
Lord.
I love this life.
Just the other day, a new 20+ year old tall brunette hotty walks into my place for a first meet.
Pretty, slim skin, fun, great breasts.
And I got the best sex I had in a long time at a reasonable price.
Wow. It does happen. I can't wait to see her again.
I have a question. A what would you do of sorts?
I started talking to a SA member. We face timed a few times and chatted (she has my real number, yes I know, a bad move on my part) I didn't get a good vibe from her and went no contact, blocked her number all that.
She's now messaging me saying she is underage, that I received child pornography and she will be talking to a lawyer etc etc. She is using lots of different numbers that have different area codes. How credible should I take this? I asked many times for her age, she said she was 20. Born in 95.
I obviously don't want any issues. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks!
Well, on the outset she does seem to be a scam artist.
Laws on such things widely vary from State to State and also from one situation to another. It is difficult to give any meaningful advice without going into the details. However, from what you say it doesn't seem like you had any physical contact or tried to force her to do anything. That alone takes away lots of issues off the table. You might want to search on her phone numbers and see what you come up with. Otherwise stay low, don't pick the calls from unknown numbers until this blows over.
[QUOTE=TheSituation;2597178]I have a question. A what would you do of sorts?
I started talking to a SA member. We face timed a few times and chatted (she has my real number, yes I know, a bad move on my part) I didn't get a good vibe from her and went no contact, blocked her number all that.
She's now messaging me saying she is underage, that I received child pornography and she will be talking to a lawyer etc etc. She is using lots of different numbers. How credible should I take this? I asked many times for her age, she said she was 20. Born in 95.
I obviously don't want any issues. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks![/QUOTE]
We never physically met. I asked specifically for age as she appeared young from the get go. She said 20. I went with it. She started our first conversation by asking if I would buy her things. I never did. I blocked her and am thinking of deactivating SA. These types of allegations can be quite serious.
I did a search on the two additional numbers she texted from. The first time came up with nothing and she identified herself by name when I asked. The second number was the text saying lawyers would be contacting me about child porn and identified herself as a lawyer and that they would be in contact with me. Again, this all started when I stopped responding to her iMessages and texts on her regular number.
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2597193]Well, on the outset she does seem to be a scam artist.
Laws on such things widely vary from State to State and also from one situation to another. It is difficult to give any meaningful advice without going into the details. However, from what you say it doesn't seem like you had any physical contact or tried to force her to do anything. That alone takes away lots of issues off the table. You might want to search on her phone numbers and see what you come up with. Otherwise stay low, don't pick the calls from unknown numbers until this blows over.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2597193]Well, on the outset she does seem to be a scam artist.
Laws on such things widely vary from State to State and also from one situation to another. It is difficult to give any meaningful advice without going into the details. However, from what you say it doesn't seem like you had any physical contact or tried to force her to do anything. That alone takes away lots of issues off the table. You might want to search on her phone numbers and see what you come up with. Otherwise stay low, don't pick the calls from unknown numbers until this blows over.[/QUOTE]If she says she is going to talk to a lawyer / attorney, you probably have little to worry about.
It is when the police, show up on your doorstep / work place is when you should worry. Saying she is going to see a lawyer, means she doesn't have anything on you, and is just trying to scare you. Tell her to go fuck herself.
[QUOTE=TheSituation;2597178]I have a question. A what would you do of sorts?
I started talking to a SA member. We face timed a few times and chatted (she has my real number, yes I know, a bad move on my part) I didn't get a good vibe from her and went no contact, blocked her number all that.
She's now messaging me saying she is underage, that I received child pornography and she will be talking to a lawyer etc etc. She is using lots of different numbers that have different area codes. How credible should I take this? I asked many times for her age, she said she was 20. Born in 95.
I obviously don't want any issues. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks![/QUOTE]I would send her a note that promises you'll *conditionally* send her a check for a thousand bucks. And as a bonus you'll give her grandma a feel good facial. All she has to do is satisfy one condition, to research and send you a single example of someone ever being scammed into "receiving kiddie porn" while simultaneously being told that the girl was legal. The people that get arrested / investigated and their hard drives scanned are the ones where LE has some other reason to get involved, like they responded to a sting / bait operation type of thing based off anonymous tips where they actively pursued illegal activity.
Nobody can just tell you they are 20, then send you pics and suddenly try to hold you hostage, it just won't fly in the hands of any prosecutor and everyone reasonable knows this. So tell her to go fuck herself with a Barbie doll and call you after she's legal if she wants to make an easy forty bucks.
Unless you aren't telling us the full story, trust me there's nothing to lose sleep over here. Tell her to fuck straight off. From what you've told us here, she hasn't even mentioned her real age nor do we know what the age of consent is in your state. It's most likely a middle aged dude with a beer gut trying out a new scam idea to see if it will get results.
I just did an extensive post on my experiences with finding a SB. It takes some investment of time but the rewards are indeed sweet. There is no way to get such fresh and sweet pussy any other way.
My first SB is 24, AA, 5' 6", very slim (looks taller), athletic and firm, sweet see cups, shaved kitty. Awesome labia and clit. Very responsive to DATY.
She contacted me based on my profile. She is new to town and staying with friends, looking for a job. She is clearly non-pro (she uses her real phone number, I dropped her off at her apt, we bare backed on our first date). She also gave me a lot of red flags and I almost did not meet her. She really pushed hard on how much $ she'd get and kept trying to get me to say exactly what she had to do etc. She was really good looking and I did not believe the pictures. Her repeated questions on payment and sex had LE vibes. She tried to postpone the M&G by 2 hours last minute. We had agrred to meet about 30 minutes from her house. Finally I gave in and offered to meet her near her place. However, she met me and I couldn't belive it but she looked great just like her pictures. She also got into my car and agreed to go to a motel.
Here is where the best laid plans go awry. Since I had scoped out where we will meet. Where I can find a hotel nearby etc. The last minute M&G change completely threw my planning off. Also, I had not expected her to come in my car so it was another problem.
Anyhow. The motels take cash and don't require CC. You can give fake car tags. However they copy your I'd. They don't really look at it twice. So I am going to get a fake I'd in my hobby name. I had not done this because I was afraid of what might happen if I ever got caught by LE. A fake I'd can lead to charges, the chances of getting into trouble are low as long as I don't proposition an undercover. Any advice on fake I'd?
Anyway. She has a really firm body. Its been a long time since I had one such as this (not counting the k-girls but they are pros and you know it when you are with them). We started out DFK and spent a lot of time sucking her nice titties. I then did DATY. She came. She proceeded to do great BBBJ with lot of attention to the balls and spit action DT. We then BBFS. Cow girl and girl on top positions. She said she liked that so really did not do Mish. After about 45 minutes, we went back to BBBJ and CIM. We took a shower and then chatted for another hour or so. I dropped her off to her apt and made plans to see her next week. I plan to see her every week unless I am out of town. She is game to come with me on an all-day trip to the back some Saturday. She is sweet sweet sweet. Of course, I know she has met a few other guys off SA. Not sure is she is still seing them. She may realize she is worth more than 150 and cut me off. 150 + 95 for room was the damage plus the $70 Sa membership.
I have a 5' 11" spinner lined up for next week ($100) and a hot little PhD student the week after in another town I am visting on business ($200). I am also M&G an undergrad at a local university who is also PT model ($200 is where we are at. She wants more but I asked her to decide after she meets me if this would work for her).
God! I feel like I died and went to heaven. For what I easily spend on sushi in LA or NYC, I get a somrgasbord of tight, sweet pussies. Why did it take me so long to figure this out?
Vox Out.
Thanks for the advice! I didn't think there would be anything that could find me in a bad spot. Like I said, she told me a certain age and then sent the text saying "You will be contacted soon by a lawyer for child pornography" I said who is this? She said "a lawyer. You will be hearing from us soon".
I deleted the text and blocked her number. Good advice for me is not to give my real number out in the future!
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2597271]I would send her a note that promises you'll *conditionally* send her a check for a thousand bucks. And as a bonus you'll give her grandma a feel good facial. All she has to do is satisfy one condition, to research and send you a single example of someone ever being scammed into "receiving kiddie porn" while simultaneously being told that the girl was legal. The people that get arrested / investigated and their hard drives scanned are the ones where LE has some other reason to get involved, like they responded to a sting / bait operation type of thing based off anonymous tips where they actively pursued illegal activity.
Nobody can just tell you they are 20, then send you pics and suddenly try to hold you hostage, it just won't fly in the hands of any prosecutor and everyone reasonable knows this. So tell her to go fuck herself with a Barbie doll and call you after she's legal if she wants to make an easy forty bucks.
Unless you aren't telling us the full story, trust me there's nothing to lose sleep over here. Tell her to fuck straight off. From what you've told us here, she hasn't even mentioned her real age nor do we know what the age of consent is in your state. It's most likely a middle aged dude with a beer gut trying out a new scam idea to see if it will get results.[/QUOTE]