"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Gentlemen,

I have been seeing a super-hot baby for the past several months. She is Armenian, and so is very exotic looking, with a killer body. She is also 4' 9" on a good day, so I have been wallowing in my tiny girl fantasies, which I have discovered are quite powerful. The last time we were together, she asked if I had ever given any thought to three-somes, and was wondering if I would like to find a second baby for us both to play with!!

I assured her this has been a long-held dream of mine, and with that in mind I have just spent an hour or so browsing SA, tagging babies who say they are looking for both men and women. The Princess and I are getting together tomorrow to review the profiles, among other activities, and from there my plan is to contact the approved ones, set up an m&g, and try to work the idea of a three-some into the conversation.

My question to the assembled brotherhood is this: have any of you attempted / achieved such a feat before, and do you have any words of advice? Clearly to blurt it out in the first 5 minutes would be rash, but is there some language one of you can suggest that would ease the convo in the right direction?

I must admit that Scottie and I are nearly comatose with anticipaption and delight at the thought of such a get-together. Frankly, it has overloaded his small brain, and nearly done the same to mine. When I have been able to pull this off, of course I will share, but any coaching beforehand would be appreciated.

Cheers, and keep up the great work! This is far and away the most civilized and informative thread on the board.

Scott.

I have had 10+ threesomes all at the request of the girl I was seeing. Either a fantasy of there's or as a "present" for me. The best were spontaneous with a great connection with the girls. The worst were pre- arranged and either the girl did with me or the girl I was seeing.

I am continuously surprised at how open minded and sexually adventurous young women are today. If they were that adventurous when I was in my 20's, I was clueless (which may have been the case LOL). There are many women who are open to and fantasize about a three some.

I would recommend meeting the pot together with your baby over drinks. No expectations other than to see if their is shared chemistry. If the chemistry is there, everything should happen pretty naturally.

In my best experiences, we went straight from the meet and greet to the FC while I was driving and they were naked and getting to know each other in my back seat. Good times, good times! LOL.

[QUOTE=FScott;2587518]Gentlemen,

I have been seeing a super-hot baby for the past several months. She is Armenian, and so is very exotic looking, with a killer body. She is also 4' 9" on a good day, so I have been wallowing in my tiny girl fantasies, which I have discovered are quite powerful. The last time we were together, she asked if I had ever given any thought to three-somes, and was wondering if I would like to find a second baby for us both to play with!!

I assured her this has been a long-held dream of mine, and with that in mind I have just spent an hour or so browsing SA, tagging babies who say they are looking for both men and women. The Princess and I are getting together tomorrow to review the profiles, among other activities, and from there my plan is to contact the approved ones, set up an m&g, and try to work the idea of a three-some into the conversation.

My question to the assembled brotherhood is this: have any of you attempted / achieved such a feat before, and do you have any words of advice? Clearly to blurt it out in the first 5 minutes would be rash, but is there some language one of you can suggest that would ease the convo in the right direction?

I must admit that Scottie and I are nearly comatose with anticipaption and delight at the thought of such a get-together. Frankly, it has overloaded his small brain, and nearly done the same to mine. When I have been able to pull this off, of course I will share, but any coaching beforehand would be appreciated.

Cheers, and keep up the great work! This is far and away the most civilized and informative thread on the board.

Scott.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FScott;2587518]Gentlemen,

I have been seeing a super-hot baby for the past several months. She is Armenian, and so is very exotic looking, with a killer body. She is also 4' 9" on a good day, so I have been wallowing in my tiny girl fantasies, which I have discovered are quite powerful. The last time we were together, she asked if I had ever given any thought to three-somes, and was wondering if I would like to find a second baby for us both to play with!!

.[/QUOTE]My experience was with 2 escort friends who were not into each other. I think the best would be 2 girls who are into each other yet willing to work you into the rotation. I would study up on 3-some porn and script out a plan so you can optimize the P.S. Experience.

[QUOTE=FScott;2587518]Gentlemen,

I have been seeing a super-hot baby for the past several months. She is Armenian, and so is very exotic looking, with a killer body. She is also 4' 9" on a good day, so I have been wallowing in my tiny girl fantasies, which I have discovered are quite powerful. The last time we were together, she asked if I had ever given any thought to three-somes, and was wondering if I would like to find a second baby for us both to play with!!

I assured her this has been a long-held dream of mine, and with that in mind I have just spent an hour or so browsing SA, tagging babies who say they are looking for both men and women. The Princess and I are getting together tomorrow to review the profiles, among other activities, and from there my plan is to contact the approved ones, set up an m&g, and try to work the idea of a three-some into the conversation.

My question to the assembled brotherhood is this: have any of you attempted / achieved such a feat before, and do you have any words of advice? Clearly to blurt it out in the first 5 minutes would be rash, but is there some language one of you can suggest that would ease the convo in the right direction?

I must admit that Scottie and I are nearly comatose with anticipaption and delight at the thought of such a get-together. Frankly, it has overloaded his small brain, and nearly done the same to mine. When I have been able to pull this off, of course I will share, but any coaching beforehand would be appreciated.

Cheers, and keep up the great work! This is far and away the most civilized and informative thread on the board.

Scott.[/QUOTE]My advice is to let her find the 3rd. Have her open account as a sugar mommy, and mention in the profile that she's the baby looking for a third.

Girls are much more open to being approached by another woman than the guy. The girls should get along better as well.

[QUOTE=FScott;2587518]Gentlemen,

I have been seeing a super-hot baby for the past several months. She is Armenian, and so is very exotic looking, with a killer body. She is also 4' 9" on a good day, so I have been wallowing in my tiny girl fantasies, which I have discovered are quite powerful. The last time we were together, she asked if I had ever given any thought to three-somes, and was wondering if I would like to find a second baby for us both to play with!!

I assured her this has been a long-held dream of mine, and with that in mind I have just spent an hour or so browsing SA, tagging babies who say they are looking for both men and women. The Princess and I are getting together tomorrow to review the profiles, among other activities, and from there my plan is to contact the approved ones, set up an m&g, and try to work the idea of a three-some into the conversation.

My question to the assembled brotherhood is this: have any of you attempted / achieved such a feat before, and do you have any words of advice? Clearly to blurt it out in the first 5 minutes would be rash, but is there some language one of you can suggest that would ease the convo in the right direction?

I must admit that Scottie and I are nearly comatose with anticipaption and delight at the thought of such a get-together. Frankly, it has overloaded his small brain, and nearly done the same to mine. When I have been able to pull this off, of course I will share, but any coaching beforehand would be appreciated.

Cheers, and keep up the great work! This is far and away the most civilized and informative thread on the board.

Scott.[/QUOTE]My search first started after spending a couple hours with my SB at a strip club. We tried to get the stripper to leave with us but no dice. What it did do was plant the idea firmly in my head.

I took the lead in planning. I contacted about 20 POTS on SA and told them exactly what we were seeking, physically described my SB, and if they expressed interest I moved it to email. There I sent them a couple of my favorite pics of my SB and described the potential evening: Dinner, drinks and if everyone was game, playtime. Told them that at a minimum they'd get a nice dinner & drinks out of the night.

I had 5 POTS and let my SB have the final say. She was ok with 3 of them.

In the end, we ended up getting together with her friend. I figured that since she knew her she'd be more into it. Didn't work that way. I got the idea her friend was only there for a paycheck and it was a disappointing experience. Would've worked better, I think, if I had continued to handle things.

[QUOTE=Telcova;2587224]I met a 20 yr POT last night, we agreed to meet at the FC on the next date. Looking back somethings don't sit right with me.

1. when I went to kiss her, she backed away. This was after we agreed to go to the FC.

2. she said she doesn't like to receive oral.

3. we went back and forth about the amount. I put out a number (2) , she came back high (3. 5) . I tried to accommodate her (by going to 3) and she came back with another counter (3. 25) it felt like I was buying a car.

She can't host so there is another cost on me.

I don't know.[/QUOTE]I agree with everyone else, run. She has already shown signs that the performance is not going to be satisfying. That is far too much to pay in this world. There are far too many that will give you a stellar performance for 150 - 200. One rule I have is that I do not negotiate with them. It's a sign of weakness. I establish what I think a reasonable donation is for them, usually no more than 150, and stick to it. If you feel like you were buying a car, expect the same feeling as you leave the FC.

[QUOTE=BillCullen;2587846]My search first started after spending a couple hours with my SB at a strip club. We tried to get the stripper to leave with us but no dice. What it did do was plant the idea firmly in my head.

I took the lead in planning. I contacted about 20 POTS on SA and told them exactly what we were seeking, physically described my SB, and if they expressed interest I moved it to email. There I sent them a couple of my favorite pics of my SB and described the potential evening: Dinner, drinks and if everyone was game, playtime. Told them that at a minimum they'd get a nice dinner & drinks out of the night.

I had 5 POTS and let my SB have the final say. She was ok with 3 of them.

In the end, we ended up getting together with her friend. I figured that since she knew her she'd be more into it. Didn't work that way. I got the idea her friend was only there for a paycheck and it was a disappointing experience. Would've worked better, I think, if I had continued to handle things.[/QUOTE]This Works Sometimes

"Well I don't really negotiate and here's why. I feel every girl is worth what she perceives her value to be, whatever that amount is. If I tell you that you are worth less, then your opinion of me is going be less as well. And I don't see that as an ideal place to start a relationship of any kind.

But I will say this. You are new to this and here is what you are going to find out. Is that many of the guys on here are full of shit. And the ones that will pay more? Well guess what? . They want every girl they can have, and at those higher amounts they can have any girl they want. So they see you a few times (or once) and then poof. They're gone.

Now maybe that's all you want. But I need something reasonable, long term and someone I can count on.

What about you?"

[QUOTE=FyrGuy33;2588062]I agree with everyone else, run. She has already shown signs that the performance is not going to be satisfying. That is far too much to pay in this world. There are far too many that will give you a stellar performance for 150 - 200. One rule I have is that I do not negotiate with them. It's a sign of weakness. I establish what I think a reasonable donation is for them, usually no more than 150, and stick to it. If you feel like you were buying a car, expect the same feeling as you leave the FC.[/QUOTE]This Works Sometimes.

"Well I don't really negotiate and here's why. I feel every girl is worth what she perceives her value to be, whatever that amount is. If I tell you that you are worth less, then your opinion of me is going be less as well. And I don't see that as an ideal place to start a relationship of any kind.

But I will say this. You are new to this and here is what you are going to find out. Is that many of the guys on here are full of shit. And the ones that will pay more? Well guess what? . They want every girl they can have, and at those higher amounts they can have any girl they want. So they see you a few times (or once) and then poof. They're gone.

Now maybe that's all you want. But I need something reasonable, long term and someone I can count on.

What about you?

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2587211]Really enjoyed the blog. That is a very nice budget to work with.

So you typically pay $400 per escort session? $200 per hour and you usually book 2 hr right?[/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm mostly booking 2 hours. However sometimes only have time for one.

One of the ladies I met had two profiles on SA. The profiles were polar opposite of each other. One profile portrayed the girl next door and the other portrayed a submissive.

Woman looking for dominant man sexually. Any of you guys ever came across a similar situation? The funny thing about I met her under the girl next door profile and she.

Explain to me that she had two profiles up on the website. We did hit the FC and she was inexperience but submissive. I actually came across the profile in my quest to find.

Some new females to meet for my upcoming trip.

Tonite my little church girl was supposed to come over to get some more marathon loving. But suddenly she just flaked. No call no nothing the entire night. By 8.30 I knew she wasn't going to make it. I think this is the second time in like four months. More mysterious than anything. We had a huge night planned so even more mystifying.

Anyway my virgin was sitting here the whole time waiting as well and really had nowhere to go. I told her she could just stay here as my date really didn't care what she saw or heard us do. And only wishes she could get a piece of her too.

Since we have been slowly mending our fences since we got into a fight three weeks ago I suggested she take her place and she agreed. Afterward she told me not to get any big ideas like it might happen again before she leaves for good in a week.

I don't even care but I am hoping to get one more bite at the apple before she leaves. And either way at least now she will be leaving on good terms. We spent the whole day and night together. I am the only guy she has been with all summer, plus four girls that I know of. I her told how sweet it was, knowing that I was the only guy and how special I felt. And since she is only planning on dating girls going forward that she will always have me that way for as long as she wants. At that anytime she is back in L.A I will take care of her. She said she liked the sound of that too.

It all seemed pretty real and for now that's the way it is. When she does leave then I am going start getting back with my x. She said she would even come visit before the virgin leaves cuz she doesnt want to wait that long to see me. And doesnt mind the minor inconvenience of her not having us totally aloiine

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2588326]Tonite my little church girl was supposed to come over to get some more marathon loving. But suddenly she just flaked. No call no nothing the entire night. By 8.30 I knew she wasn't going to make it. I think this is the second time in like four months. More mysterious than anything. We had a huge night planned so even more mystifying.[/QUOTE]You're a far more forgiving soul than I, HG. If I get flaked on once, without a good reason and associated explanation for absence, it's not happening a second time -- they're out of my life, I don't care if its an SB or co-worker or whoever. Time is valuable.

[QUOTE=FyrGuy33;2588062]I agree with everyone else, run. She has already shown signs that the performance is not going to be satisfying. That is far too much to pay in this world. There are far too many that will give you a stellar performance for 150 - 200. One rule I have is that I do not negotiate with them. It's a sign of weakness. I establish what I think a reasonable donation is for them, usually no more than 150, and stick to it. If you feel like you were buying a car, expect the same feeling as you leave the FC.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the replies. We were to meet at the FC tonight, but last night I told her the SO was giving me heat and need some time for things to settle down; next!.

Live and Learn!

"That's great! You probably know more about the city than I do. I really don't know much about the town either. I'd love to meet whenever.

You are in town. Our first meet should be for ice cream or coffee possibly a bite to eat. I like fast food so I'm not apposed to that. I am looking to save money for a car and I rent a town home for per month I have negotiable rates ranging from*1700-2300*a month. We can send videos thru glide or Skype. ".

Somebody must be spending that kind of money. I'm not even going to respond back to her.

I'm still very much a beginner at SD / SB. I've managed to make it all the way with two girls; one of whom I dropped for poor performance. She just wasnt into it. The other is working out pretty well. I see her weekly for for about 2 hrs for $200 per visit.

Now I have a new one who approached me unsolicited on SA last night. We've exchanged a bunch of texts and she wants to come to my place tomorrow at 9 am to meet. We haven't discussed terms or expectations at all yet.

I pushed back and said we needed to get some things on the table first.

Her response was "we can just meet and talk at your place and if we like each other and want to move forward while I'm there that would be fine. I'm a couple months behind on my car insurance, so some help with that would be wonderful. ".

Now I have the whole day wide open tomorrow, so plenty of time for playing.

What should be the play here? Should I let her come over and be prepared to boot her if her expectations are out of my league? Or should I tell her now, we need a starbucks M&G first?

She claims to work at the mall not too far from my house.

Also, I am having a M&G dinner with the Nursing student at 7:30. Wish me luck. Much better boundaries there.

[QUOTE=Helion;2589018]I'm still very much a beginner at SD / SB. I've managed to make it all the way with two girls; one of whom I dropped for poor performance. She just wasnt into it. The other is working out pretty well. I see her weekly for for about 2 hrs for $200 per visit.

Now I have a new one who approached me unsolicited on SA last night. We've exchanged a bunch of texts and she wants to come to my place tomorrow at 9 am to meet. We haven't discussed terms or expectations at all yet.

I pushed back and said we needed to get some things on the table first.

Her response was "we can just meet and talk at your place and if we like each other and want to move forward while I'm there that would be fine. I'm a couple months behind on my car insurance, so some help with that would be wonderful. ".

Now I have the whole day wide open tomorrow, so plenty of time for playing.

What should be the play here? Should I let her come over and be prepared to boot her if her expectations are out of my league? Or should I tell her now, we need a starbucks M&G first?

She claims to work at the mall not too far from my house.

Also, I am having a M&G dinner with the Nursing student at 7:30. Wish me luck. Much better boundaries there.[/QUOTE]I had one M&G like that as well. We ended up back at my room and still hadn't discussed allowance. I went with the flow figuring I'd just give my standard. In the middle of making out is when she brought it up. Smart girl as I ended up paying more than my usual due to the little man. It was, however, a pretty good session with a very young hottie, so I'm not complaining.

Just be aware that it's easy to let the little guy do the thinking in a situation like that, but I'd go for it.

So a petite Latina has been on my bucket list for some time. I'm overnighting next week and have been looking for someone to see instead of my regular who has a perfect body but skills that are below average.

I've been chatting up the perfect petite Latina the last few days and we seem to be hitting it off. No talk of allowance, but good texts and sexy pics.

Today I arrange to call her so I can hear her voice. I'm on google voice and she's on something else and the connection gets cut about 4 times. I'm about to give up and text again when she calls from a different number. We have a nice chat, her voice is sexy as hell, and I decide I'm going to see her instead of my regular.

So after the call I google the new number. Get a bunch of escort hits including her website. From what I can tell, she hasn't been active in escorting for almost 2 years. TheothER site has 5 reviews from 2 years ago. All stellar. My guess is she's toned it down recently to UTR to concentrate on her schooling.

So. Do I still give it a whirl, or do I go with my regular. Both is not an option due to funding and location. These decisions are so difficult.

[QUOTE=Helion;2589018]I'm still very much a beginner at SD / SB. I've managed to make it all the way with two girls; one of whom I dropped for poor performance. She just wasnt into it. The other is working out pretty well. I see her weekly for for about 2 hrs for $200 per visit.

Now I have a new one who approached me unsolicited on SA last night. We've exchanged a bunch of texts and she wants to come to my place tomorrow at 9 am to meet. We haven't discussed terms or expectations at all yet.

I pushed back and said we needed to get some things on the table first.

Her response was "we can just meet and talk at your place and if we like each other and want to move forward while I'm there that would be fine. I'm a couple months behind on my car insurance, so some help with that would be wonderful. ".

Now I have the whole day wide open tomorrow, so plenty of time for playing.

What should be the play here? Should I let her come over and be prepared to boot her if her expectations are out of my league? Or should I tell her now, we need a starbucks M&G first?

She claims to work at the mall not too far from my house.

Also, I am having a M&G dinner with the Nursing student at 7:30. Wish me luck. Much better boundaries there.[/QUOTE]Do the M&G first if that makes you more comfortable. Unless she has time constraints, I can't see how that could hurt your chances of getting her to the FC, especially if she needs the money as bad as she says she does.

[QUOTE=Helion;2589018]I'm still very much a beginner at SD / SB. I've managed to make it all the way with two girls; one of whom I dropped for poor performance. She just wasnt into it. The other is working out pretty well. I see her weekly for for about 2 hrs for $200 per visit. Now I have a new one who approached me unsolicited on SA last night. We've exchanged a bunch of texts and she wants to come to my place tomorrow at 9 am to meet. We haven't discussed terms or expectations at all yet.
[/QUOTE]If your place is your actual home where your SO lives (you had mentioned bringing some of them back to your place when she's traveling), then a resounding "nope" to this. If it's anything other than a hotel while you're out of town, then still "nope".

You won't want to bring an SB to any place that can be linked back to you while you are still married. If you've mostly been working the escort scene, the one difference you need to be aware of regarding SBs, as it applies to a married guy's situation, is that some of them are evil control freaks or blackmail artists and will use your marriage or pending divorce situation against you as leverage to get what they want. It's a level of stress you don't need. There have been a couple of members here posting in the past about SB's turned psycho, and none of it sounds like fun.

Escorts are harmless in this regard. They're a 7-11 with a long list of slurpee customers, they don't get attached to one. An SB might get emotionally or financially attached (probably both) and make you the subject of her psychological fixation. Much better if she doesn't know where you live.

This is one reason I only do hotel rooms rather than rental homes, AirBnB and the like. I'm worried a private owner with no sense of privacy laws would give out my real info if asked -- a hotel won't reveal anything unless maybe a notell motel type dump.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2589317]If your place is your actual home where your SO lives (you had mentioned bringing some of them back to your place when she's traveling), then a resounding "nope" to this. If it's anything other than a hotel while you're out of town, then still "nope".

You won't want to bring an SB to any place that can be linked back to you while you are still married. If you've mostly been working the escort scene, the one difference you need to be aware of regarding SBs, as it applies to a married guy's situation, is that some of them are evil control freaks or blackmail artists and will use your marriage or pending divorce situation against you as leverage to get what they want. It's a level of stress you don't need. There have been a couple of members here posting in the past about SB's turned psycho, and none of it sounds like fun.

Escorts are harmless in this regard. They're a 7-11 with a long list of slurpee customers, they don't get attached to one. An SB might get emotionally or financially attached (probably both) and make you the subject of her psychological fixation. Much better if she doesn't know where you live.

This is one reason I only do hotel rooms rather than rental homes, AirBnB and the like. I'm worried a private owner with no sense of privacy laws would give out my real info if asked -- a hotel won't reveal anything unless maybe a notell motel type dump.[/QUOTE]OK< I'm gong to bump her to the M&G. I am still feeling my way with the differences in Escort Vs SB. I have a good handle on the pro's but these rookies are not clear to me yet. I've got tons of hotel points so I can set something up pretty quick if we want to go to the next round tomorrow.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2589317]If your place is your actual home where your SO lives (you had mentioned bringing some of them back to your place when she's traveling), then a resounding "nope" to this. If it's anything other than a hotel while you're out of town, then still "nope".

You won't want to bring an SB to any place that can be linked back to you while you are still married. If you've mostly been working the escort scene, the one difference you need to be aware of regarding SBs, as it applies to a married guy's situation, is that some of them are evil control freaks or blackmail artists and will use your marriage or pending divorce situation against you as leverage to get what they want. It's a level of stress you don't need. There have been a couple of members here posting in the past about SB's turned psycho, and none of it sounds like fun.

Escorts are harmless in this regard. They're a 7-11 with a long list of slurpee customers, they don't get attached to one. An SB might get emotionally or financially attached (probably both) and make you the subject of her psychological fixation. Much better if she doesn't know where you live.

This is one reason I only do hotel rooms rather than rental homes, AirBnB and the like. I'm worried a private owner with no sense of privacy laws would give out my real info if asked -- a hotel won't reveal anything unless maybe a notell motel type dump.[/QUOTE]I agree with the Hotel option. I always book a suite at one of the Vegas Luxury Resorts. Even though I'm single and have a very nice house, I have not invited a single SB to stay at my home. I like having that buffer zone even with a SB that I may see several times.

I've always wanted to visit Asia, am big into Asian women. I know several people here have gone, and I've only ever been to Canada outside of the US. Would anyone be so kind to pm me some tips on where to go, save $$, and meet with some females? I'm still relatively young and decent looking, so I'd rather not pay for much if possible.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2588326]
Since we have been slowly mending our fences since we got into a fight three weeks ago I suggested she take her place and she agreed. Afterward she told me not to get any big ideas like it might happen again before she leaves for good in a week[/QUOTE]Yesterday she promised one or two more trips to the FC befor she leaves in nine days. My bikini girl came over at 9 last night and is still sleeping. No sex. No sugar so far. She wants serious guy. We talked all night, that's it. So they both slept here last nite.

[QUOTE=Rouleur;2589447]I agree with the Hotel option. I always book a suite at one of the Vegas Luxury Resorts. Even though I'm single and have a very nice house, I have not invited a single SB to stay at my home. I like having that buffer zone even with a SB that I may see several times.[/QUOTE]When I was unattached, I used to bring one night stands back to my place all the time (wasn't into the SB scene at the time so these were civy pickups), and never had a problem. I'd probably consider it for SBs on a case by case basis if I wasn't in a relationship now -- I'd probably try to limit it to SBs from other cities that came to visit me.

If an SO lives in the same space and is traveling, it's too easy for an SB to leave clues (intentionally or unintentionally) that could cause problems later (and that's assuming nosy neighbors and such are a non issue). With services like [URL]trustify.com[/URL] it's pretty easy for the SO to have the place watched while she's away for future use -- and that might be a bad thing especially if she has any ownership of the property.

Thanks for the posts. I've been in the bowl for a month and found six girls that made it to FC. I just met the very first one again and the difference was night and day. The first visit was great. Lasted three or so hours for 1. 5. Today she wants 2. 5 which I declined. Settled at 2. In and out in an hour. One shot and very business like. She's a thin latina with DD's. I liked her before but guess she's off the list now. The money must have killed it. I'm just not going to pay that when plenty are good with 1-1. 5 or less.

So bikini girl finally stayed over last night, all we have done so far is some very light OTC touching and lot of talking. This girl probably is what a lot of guys are looking for. Mature in nature, gym fit and has only had 3 jobs in the last 10 years working for C level executives at fortune 500's. Bachelors in marketing and business admin.

I have been spending like .3 a day just to have her hang out all day for a few days while she examines my life and tries to decide if she is willing to be one of my girls. She knows about my four current regulars and of course has met the virgin.

Today we talked about escalating the play time to the real deal so I can pay her for real. She just left and may come back tonite to sleep over again. I have not pressured her in any way and am not going to.

She is the best 33 year old I have encountered that is willing to roll with the $ donation. She is an AA island girl. 5'7" and 117. Really an 8/10/10/?.... I never get bored or annoyed with her. She goes to the spa and gym regularly and has perfect skin. Just a middle class type girl next door.

I told her if we have good sex then there really is nothing left to talk about because we get along great. I am hoping she says yes.

[QUOTE=RedThunder;2590136]Thanks for the posts. I've been in the bowl for a month and found six girls that made it to FC. I just met the very first one again and the difference was night and day. The first visit was great. Lasted three or so hours for 1. 5. Today she wants 2. 5 which I declined. Settled at 2. In and out in an hour. One shot and very business like. She's a thin latina with DD's. I liked her before but guess she's off the list now. The money must have killed it. I'm just not going to pay that when plenty are good with 1-1. 5 or less.[/QUOTE]I always think the best fuck is the first. The excitement of exploring unknown territory. Some of these girls will completely unleash their inner sl*t on you the first couple of dates, then over time start to convince you they are June Clever.

I think I've had one actual long-term (dated over a year) girlfriend that I can recall that consistently delivered the kind of experience, time and time again, I would expect from my favorite porn star fantasy. To this day I wish I knew the secret formula -- must have just been chemistry between us, but the fucking was absolutely stellar and it didn't matter if it was 3-4 times per day or what time of day or where, always perfect. But oddly she was a church freak and when my cock wasn't in her mouth she was usually lecturing me about God and how we shouldn't be doing all this out of wedlock, so it never materialized into a real relationship.

Point is with SBs, just move onto the next. Don't look up old flames. Enjoy the newness of the first fuck and the fact there is always another one. There is pretty much no other environment where the ratio is so much in your favor, take advantage of it.

There was a post recently about the % income bracket needed for SD to be paying 10 K allowance. Can someone refer me to it? I need it for a GPS girl I know. I am actually her friend not trying to SD her but trying to explain the odds to her. She just moved to LA and is looking for a SD to pay her 120 k / year.

I love this thread. But how is a guy that gets less than 1% of all the pussy posting 50% of all the posts. Give it a rest dude.

Maybe there should be a new rule. If you haven't fucked it within the last 30 days. don't post about it. It's ancient history. And this is more about current events. Like I dont care who you fucked 20 years ago.

I already fucked 10 different girls this month. Did you fuck any?

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2590739]I love this thread. But how is a guy that gets less than 1% of all the pussy posting 50% of all the posts. Give it a rest dude.

Maybe there should be a new rule. If you haven't fucked it within the last 30 days. don't post about it. It's ancient history. And this is more about current events. Like I dont care who you fucked 20 years ago.

I already fucked 10 different girls this month. Did you fuck any?[/QUOTE]Well HG, I see now your problems run way deeper than a lame foot. I don't know who took a shit in your bed this morning, but your unprovoked attack is not only against USASG terms of service (you know, the ones that you chastised Helion about a few posts back), but also reveals your deep-seated insecurities and desire to be self-appointed king of this thread. You do not define what this thread is about any more than I do. You may not want to hear about my experiences, I don't want to see pics of your skanky tranny look a-likes pay-by-the-hour "dates". Guess we both have to deal with what we have to deal with?

So now that we have everything out on the table, I will say that you do have a point that I have been spending more time in this thread lately than I probably should so perhaps I should explain why. A lot of people here have been thanking me personally for my recent posts, and I do get my fair share of PMs which ask specific questions and I try to address them publicly (both for PM box space consideration reasons and because I think others will benefit if its discussed in the thread rather than answering the same things over and over in PM).

So there you go. My suggestion to you if you don't like my posts is simply don't read them. It takes a lot less effort to ignore posts than to cry about what's in them. We all know the real problem is that your ego requires that you be the only one posting.

Now if I start to get the vibe from others that they'd just rather I stop posting, that's different. I'd be happy to.

Oh, and because you asked, I got laid almost every day in the last month. And I didn't pay a penny for it.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2590753]Well HG, I see now your problems run way deeper than a lame foot. I don't know who took a shit in your bed this morning, but your unprovoked attack is not only against USASG terms of service (you know, the ones that you chastised Helion about a few posts back), but also reveals your deep-seated insecurities and desire to be self-appointed king of this thread. You do not define what this thread is about any more than I do. You may not want to hear about my experiences, I don't want to see pics of your skanky tranny look a-likes. Guess we both have to deal with what we have to deal with?

So now that we have everything out on the table, I will say that you do have a point that I have been spending more time in this thread lately than I probably should so perhaps I should explain why. A lot of people here have been thanking me personally for my recent posts, and I do get my fair share of PMs which ask specific questions and I try to address them publicly (both for space consideration reasons and because I think others will benefit if its discussed in the thread rather than answering the same things over and over in PM).

So there you go. My suggestion to you if you don't like my posts is simply don't read them. It takes a lot less effort to do that than to cry about posts.

Now if I start to get the vibe from others that they'd just rather I stop posting, that's different. I'd be happy to.

Oh, and because you asked, I got laid almost every day in the last month. And I didn't pay a penny for it.[/QUOTE]Go away. Or take over. Because I am long gone. It was nice knowing you all. And I didnt even mention any names, LOL

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2590756]Go away. Or take over. Because I am long gone. It was nice knowing you all. And I didnt even mention any names, LOL[/QUOTE]I'm certainly not "taking over". Nobody needs to "own" the thread or play the role of cock of the walk. That's the part you don't seem to understand. If you want to take your issues elsewhere to work them out, then don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. It doesn't matter to me and I doubt anyone else. I've already told you your entire modus operandi is different than mine. My posts are meant for the folks who PM me (some of whom don't even post here). They are not written for your enjoyment. Read them if you want, if not then don't. If you do read choose to read them, remember that was your choice, so there's no need to complain about what's in them. A lot of times I don't even read your posts and certainly wouldn't blame anyone for not reading mine.

Haven't check in for a day or two, and did this thread turned into a children's playground?

Can we please get back to our regularly "young pussies exploitation" programming?

THANK YOU!

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2590862]Haven't check in for a day or two, and did this thread turned into a children's playground?

Can we please get back to our regularly "young pussies exploitation" programming?

THANK YOU![/QUOTE]Agreed. Part of what has made this thread worthwhile is that it has been largely void of the typical shit-stirring and one-upmanship of the interwebs -- kind of a shame that had to change this morning. I don't know what makes some folks go off the rails sometimes but it seems to be an inherent and eventual part of net forum discussions. I'm just surprised that in a monolithic thread of 10 k+ posts it didn't happen sooner. I do try to quell these things, but if I leave things without response there's nothing to prevent it from recurring. Hopefully it's over (for now). The less discussed, the quicker it will go away.

I enjoy both of your contributions, so put away the sabers and keep on keeping on.

My $. 02.

As a LT monger who's mostly done these types of situations, wish I had known about this place years ago. Started reading from the back and like 1/5 the way through.

Do have a question, have any of you who have read the SB blogs heard of them being told to check the hotel TVs to get our real name? Made the mistake of leaving one in the room recently, she's inexperienced I'm relatively certain in not only being in hotels but also arrangements, and don't think there's any chance she'd know to do this without reading it somewhere. So just wondering if anyone has ever seen that suggested online to them. TIA.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2590862]Haven't check in for a day or two, and did this thread turned into a children's playground?

Can we please get back to our regularly "young pussies exploitation" programming?

THANK YOU![/QUOTE]

Gentlemen,

Well, I spent the afternoon on Friday with my Armenian princess, working the knots out for a couple of hours then, as promised, reviewing the assorted SBs I had tagged for us on SA who indicated that they were interested in both men and women. I had previously gone through and done a search on my own personal criteria as to age, body type, location, smoking and drinking habits etc, so was only looking at babies who would have cleared my initial screening. Then I went back and looked at each one and "favorited" those who were interested in women as well. The final count, after eliminating some who were not attractive to me, was a whopping 280 or so! Either bisexuality is the new black among the younger babies, or Chicago is a hot bed of lesbian want to-bes.

In any event, I was thrilled that there were so many to choose from, and since every last one of those 280 would I gladly fuck, even by themselves, I was convinced my SB would think she was in heaven. Imagine how surprised I was to see how incredibly picky she was, however, which I feel just goes to illustrate yet another difference between the sexes. I would have messaged them all, and see how things sorted out, but she selected a mere handful, 7 I believe, as potentially viable for our three-some. My odds aren't looking great, but I'm going to give it the old college try and see if I can move this forward.

As an interesting aside, when I pointed out how many SBs there were in the Chicago area in general, she said that was kind of frightening to her, and one of the reasons she wants to be selective. Apparently a good percentage of the women she works with, and knows socially, have some kind of STD, and she just figures that if there are thousands of babies in our area, a lot of them have something communicable as well. Gives one pause, does it not?

In any event, today I begin the process of seduction on The Approved Ones, and will see how it goes. Our strategy is for me to contact them as I normally would, set up the m&g, and see what the vibe is. If it is going well, I will gently touch on the subject, and if the response is positive, set up a second m&g with the three of us. I might let the Princess show up first, just to let the two women talk, and then show up "late". The new baby might feel more comfortable that way. Thoughts?

Scott.

P.S. May everyone have a wonderful and happy day, and remember how lucky we are to have found this amazing pursuit!

[QUOTE=FScott;2591656]Gentlemen,

Well, I spent the afternoon on Friday with my Armenian princess, working the knots out for a couple of hours then, as promised, reviewing the assorted SBs I had tagged for us on SA who indicated that they were interested in both men and women. I had previously gone through and done a search on my own personal criteria as to age, body type, location, smoking and drinking habits etc, so was only looking at babies who would have cleared my initial screening. Then I went back and looked at each one and "favorited" those who were interested in women as well. The final count, after eliminating some who were not attractive to me, was a whopping 280 or so! Either bisexuality is the new black among the younger babies, or Chicago is a hot bed of lesbian want to-bes.

Thoughts?

Scott.

![/QUOTE]Put it all on her -stay out of it until she narrows the field to 1 candidate.

Remember, she might not want to have a girl who might be hotter than she -therefore winning your attention away.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;2591380]As a LT monger who's mostly done these types of situations, wish I had known about this place years ago. Started reading from the back and like 1/5 the way through.

Do have a question, have any of you who have read the SB blogs heard of them being told to check the hotel TVs to get our real name? Made the mistake of leaving one in the room recently, she's inexperienced I'm relatively certain in not only being in hotels but also arrangements, and don't think there's any chance she'd know to do this without reading it somewhere. So just wondering if anyone has ever seen that suggested online to them. TIA.[/QUOTE]I honestly have never seen my name on a hotel TV (but then I rarely watch it when traveling). I have had a few that like to pick up the remote and start flipping though. Do you mean the guest's name broadcast on a channel by the hotel, or something like a card with the wi-fi instructions sitting near it?