General Reports

[QUOTE=IWonderWhy;6195861]There is no significant link between heart attacks and any COVID vaccine. There is evidence of periomyocarditis, which is inflammation of the sack around the heart that can put stress on the heart but the risk is far higher for people who get Covid than those who get the vaccine. Be more worried about getting the virus than heart attacks from the vaccine.[/QUOTE]Says who? L don't believe the CDC or the WHO, they are both political organizers, not scientific. I have a childhood friend who is convinced the clot-shot gave him Parkinson's. I don't know anyone who regrets not getting the shot.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;6195981]Says who? L don't believe the CDC or the WHO, they are both political organizers, not scientific. I have a childhood friend who is convinced the clot-shot gave him Parkinson's. I don't know anyone who regrets not getting the shot.[/QUOTE][URL]https://www.parkinson.org/living-with-parkinsons/management/covid[/URL]#text=COVID%20 Vaccine%20 Booster%20 Shot&text=It%20 is%20 recommended%20 that%20 all, your%20 immune%20 system%20 is%20 working.

Looks like the parkinson's foundation is covering it up too.

So because your childhood friend has no concept that Parkinson's can affect anybody, and is caused by a decrease in dopamine availability in the brain. Because they got the covid shot that definitely means that it caused Parkinson's right? By that same logic, If you got the covid shot, then did BBFS with a girl and got HIV, maybe it was the vaccine right?

Nobody is asking you to get the vaccine here, but If you don't actual have a concept of how science works, nobody is asking for your opinion either.

[QUOTE=Pussylicker2;6195981]Says who? L don't believe the CDC or the WHO, they are both political organizers, not scientific. I have a childhood friend who is convinced the clot-shot gave him Parkinson's. I don't know anyone who regrets not getting the shot.[/QUOTE]I know a few hundred thousand, but they died.

I've been warned against the vaxx by numerous doctors, nurses, and medical personnel. They didn't need to ask me, but they all asked me not to rat them out, since they will lose their jobs if they are caught telling the truth.

The reason they aren't telling you the same thing is because the rest of us who have full possession of our mental faculties can smell a brainwashed narcissistic liberal a mile away. The doctors and nurses you talk to already know that if they try to help you by telling you the truth, you'll rat them out in a heartbeat.

[QUOTE=SteveKowall;6196396][URL]https://www.parkinson.org/living-with-parkinsons/management/covid[/URL]#text=COVID%20 Vaccine%20 Booster%20 Shot&text=It%20 is%20 recommended%20 that%20 all, your%20 immune%20 system%20 is%20 working.

Looks like the parkinson's foundation is covering it up too.

So because your childhood friend has no concept that Parkinson's can affect anybody, and is caused by a decrease in dopamine availability in the brain. Because they got the covid shot that definitely means that it caused Parkinson's right? By that same logic, If you got the covid shot, then did BBFS with a girl and got HIV, maybe it was the vaccine right?

Nobody is asking you to get the vaccine here, but If you don't actual have a concept of how science works, nobody is asking for your opinion either.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigPenisMan;6197995]I've been warned against the vaxx by numerous doctors, nurses, and medical personnel. They didn't need to ask me, but they all asked me not to rat them out, since they will lose their jobs if they are caught telling the truth.

The reason they aren't telling you the same thing is because the rest of us who have full possession of our mental faculties can smell a brainwashed narcissistic liberal a mile away. The doctors and nurses you talk to already know that if they try to help you by telling you the truth, you'll rat them out in a heartbeat.[/QUOTE]The use of personal anecdotes when there is published evidence and data available. This brings to mind the old adage that which is claimed without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

The US has experienced a phenomenon over the past 25 years that can be called the death of expertise (there is a book by that title), in which individuals with training, education, or experience in a particular field think that they know as much as experts.

One of the ironies is that those belittling science are conveying their ignorance across a handheld device that is a marvel of science.

Lastly, physicians though they may have science education in their training, are not scientists, unless they are researchers or doctors engaged in scientific research.

My cardiologist, endocrinologist, pulmonary specialist and my primary care Doc all recommended the vaccine and boosters. They get them themselves. Other than well controlled diabetes, I'm pretty healthy. I just like having certain Specialists.

What's most puzzling about anti vaxxers is they trust the medical profession except for this one thing.

[QUOTE=BigPenisMan;6197995]I've been warned against the vaxx by numerous doctors, nurses, and medical personnel. They didn't need to ask me, but they all asked me not to rat them out, since they will lose their jobs if they are caught telling the truth.

The reason they aren't telling you the same thing is because the rest of us who have full possession of our mental faculties can smell a brainwashed narcissistic liberal a mile away. The doctors and nurses you talk to already know that if they try to help you by telling you the truth, you'll rat them out in a heartbeat.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigPenisMan;6197995]I've been warned against the vaxx by numerous doctors, nurses, and medical personnel. They didn't need to ask me, but they all asked me not to rat them out, since they will lose their jobs if they are caught telling the truth.

The reason they aren't telling you the same thing is because the rest of us who have full possession of our mental faculties can smell a brainwashed narcissistic liberal a mile away. The doctors and nurses you talk to already know that if they try to help you by telling you the truth, you'll rat them out in a heartbeat.[/QUOTE]I never said I was a liberal. But I can see how you thought that by my ability to back up my claims with actual facts vs. "My mom euchre partner said it was bad".

[QUOTE=TeeTime69;6198231]My cardiologist, endocrinologist, pulmonary specialist and my primary care Doc all recommended the vaccine and boosters. They get them themselves. Other than well controlled diabetes, I'm pretty healthy. I just like having certain Specialists.

What's most puzzling about anti vaxxers is they trust the medical profession except for this one thing.[/QUOTE]Ask them to show you 3rd party testing / clinical trials and efficacy of use. There is none.

[QUOTE=QuestForFun69;6198281]Ask them to show you 3rd party testing / clinical trials and efficacy of use. There is none.[/QUOTE]False.  COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the USA And UK are not experimental and have all completed animal and clinical trials.  .

This article was produced by the Reuters Fact Check team. Read more about our fact-checking work 8239; here  .

[QUOTE=TeeTime69;6198353]False.  COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the USA And UK are not experimental and have all completed animal and clinical trials.[/QUOTE]There has been no 3rd party peer reviewed clinical testing.

[QUOTE=TeeTime69;6198353]False.  COVID-19 vaccines authorized for use in the USA And UK are not experimental and have all completed animal and clinical trials.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying they are not authorized.

[QUOTE=BigPenisMan;6197995]I've been warned against the vaxx by numerous doctors, nurses, and medical personnel. They didn't need to ask me, but they all asked me not to rat them out, since they will lose their jobs if they are caught telling the truth.

The reason they aren't telling you the same thing is because the rest of us who have full possession of our mental faculties can smell a brainwashed narcissistic liberal a mile away. The doctors and nurses you talk to already know that if they try to help you by telling you the truth, you'll rat them out in a heartbeat.[/QUOTE]That is what makes the world go round. Take in the facts and make the best judgement for you. You're in charge of you're own medical decisions and that what makes this country great.

My ex is a Dr at one of the most prestigious universities in the US. She doesn't see patients, she wears a white lab coat and works on cancer research. If you google her name you can see the published research she has done. The research includes words like "receptor and genome". Most Dr's probably can't even comprehend what she does. She scored a perfect on her ACT in high school, salutatorian of her graduatimg class, even turned down a offer to go to an accelerated school to be a Dr. When covid hit I asked her questions because my boss is a whack job who was spreading lies about it. She told me to get vaccinated and she got vaccinated herself. My boss tried telling me to take that hydroxychlorine and ivermectin. She told me she got pulled out of research to help at hospitals and she's had to treat people from taking those medications. I'm fully vaccinated and boosted. I just recently got covid from a co worker and besides a sore throat for one day it was a cake walk. My boss was off 21 days with covid. My ex who is a republican could not believe the lies the trump administration was spreading about covid. She also says that its not man made, she said its "natures lottery," these types of diseases happen when everything is just right. I'm not going to state where I work or what I do, but I have my engineering degree so I would consider myself above average intelligence and she's light years beyond anyone I've ever met.

[QUOTE=QuestForFun69;6198361]I'm not saying they are not authorized.[/QUOTE]That requires review of data from an initial trial of 32,000 and peer reviewed data. At this point, a BILLION injections have been given.

Objective scientists, in appropriate fields, point out Covid has more side effects than the vax.

I am a Conservative Republican voter

Getting covid damages your body. Getting vaxxed also damages your body. Who knows which is worse. I got covid before the vax's were released, recovered, then had a minor stroke a month later. Woke up with the left side of my face paralyzed. Talked wierd and water dribbled out of my mouth when I drank water. Recovered after a month. also got vaxxed and afterward felt like my heart "hardened". maybe it was just in my head.