The Sugar World

[QUOTE=Gesab69;7489447]For those of you who engage in SA or similar sites, how does everything compare to traditional PD, etc. ? I used to live elsewhere where SA was a great way to find more personal, generally less expensive, and younger dates than PD and the like. Curious how that is in Vegas.[/QUOTE]I have had great success with SA in my area. I'm looking at setting things up for an upcoming trip to LV.

I've gotten an incredible amount of messages and likes on SA. It's tough to keep up with it and sort through the chaff honestly.

I've got 6 or 7 that I have agreed with on terms but I'll probably only see 4. Prices are higher here. Girls are more straight to the point in many cases (pros).

Back home, and in the SE in general, I've had a great deal of success with some fantastic women where we both enjoyed our time immensely. My best interactions were in the 4-5 range. Had a couple nice ones in the 3 range. Really cute black 20 year old spinner, a 24 redhead spinner, and a 28 spinner MILF that loves all 3 holes. All BBFS CIP. All at 300.

I very recently made the decision to go down to one arrangement with my ATF. I'd rather see her at 5 than multiple others at less. She's that good and seeing her 2, maybe 3 times a month is enough. Unless I'm traveling of course. I actually don't want to do anything to mess that one up.

To me, SA is worth it. I travel some for work and use it for those meets now. For the price of a meet (the subscription) , I can meet someone every time I travel if I want to.

[QUOTE=Cbears;7490385]It's like pulling teeth with these girls, took almost 2 days just to exchange a few texts back and forth. When she finally responded, she wants 700 per meet. Pass for me.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info, another reason I lost all my teeth! At the agency she works at, for 450 you get 2 girls but they're just lap dances and I'm sure her cut is more like 100 bucks if that.

700 ppm is high and I doubt it's even GFE.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a4683278-8b4d-463b-8600-e160a1dd7f96[/URL]

This is Vene L. Arcoraci for those interested, she had small roles in Minority Report, Dumb and Dumber, etc.

[URL]https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0033871/?ref_=ttfc_fcr_3_16[/URL]

[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;7491073][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a4683278-8b4d-463b-8600-e160a1dd7f96[/URL]

This is Vene L. Arcoraci for those interested, she had small roles in Minority Report, Dumb and Dumber, etc.

[URL]https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0033871/?ref_=ttfc_fcr_3_16[/URL][/QUOTE]Her instagram pics are recent, and she doesn't look bad for an older broad.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4fa0b1d8-c972-40c5-8ec7-325829e9a938[/URL]

400 car date. BBFS. I think she's older than her profile age. Has an accent. Ok time, wouldn't see again.

[QUOTE=Gesab69;7489447]For those of you who engage in SA or similar sites, how does everything compare to traditional PD, etc. ? I used to live elsewhere where SA was a great way to find more personal, generally less expensive, and younger dates than PD and the like. Curious how that is in Vegas.[/QUOTE]That is the question. Are you comfortable paying the sub and try it out for the month?

Putting the time and effort getting your profiles, photos, description in order?

Chatting with a bunch of potentials that 98% might be just a waste of time?

Ready to shell out at least 500 per meet and rolling the dice?

Dealing and filtering out pros, agency and scammers?

Make sure you're answering Yes to the above before moving forward.

Honestly if you're looking for cheaper and younger, it's not going to happen. Once in a blue moon, you might find someone willing to do 300 ppm but definitely not young (in my experience anyway) Some young uns won't even do intimate dates. Not saying they don't exist but you'll have a tough time to find them. If you're determined and keep your sub and just keep at it, you may find the one you're looking for.

I'm at a point where I've given up (on seeking anyway) I still have my credits on sb so just slowly burning that up. In any case, best of luck to you because you'll need it!

[QUOTE=WhiteSun777;7491532]That is the question. Are you comfortable paying the sub and try it out for the month?

Putting the time and effort getting your profiles, photos, description in order?

Chatting with a bunch of potentials that 98% might be just a waste of time?

Ready to shell out at least 500 per meet and rolling the dice?

Dealing and filtering out pros, agency and scammers?

Make sure you're answering Yes to the above before moving forward.

Honestly if you're looking for cheaper and younger, it's not going to happen. Once in a blue moon, you might find someone willing to do 300 ppm but definitely not young (in my experience anyway) Some young uns won't even do intimate dates. Not saying they don't exist but you'll have a tough time to find them. If you're determined and keep your sub and just keep at it, you may find the one you're looking for.

I'm at a point where I've given up (on seeking anyway) I still have my credits on sb so just slowly burning that up. In any case, best of luck to you because you'll need it![/QUOTE]They're is a lot of chaff to sort through, especially in LV. I'm finding that out now. I've also found out it's more expensive in LV too. I'm going to splurge though, especially since I'm not paying for the room.

I've got several set up, we've agreed on everything already. At the end of my trip I'll do a complete report here.

They are between 400 and 700 each. BBFS, msog, a couple of them offer greek. But I bet I sorted through 50 different women with messages, texting back and forth to find 6 like this.

Back home, in TN it's cheaper. There's not as many but still plenty to choose from. I've had a couple as low as 200 but those are rare. It's usually 300. The ones in the 4's and 5's range tend to be more dependable, sane and sober. Go check my post history in SA to see examples.

[QUOTE=TKDfan;7491637]They're is a lot of chaff to sort through, especially in LV. I'm finding that out now. I've also found out it's more expensive in LV too. I'm going to splurge though, especially since I'm not paying for the room.

I've got several set up, we've agreed on everything already. At the end of my trip I'll do a complete report here.

They are between 400 and 700 each. BBFS, msog, a couple of them offer greek. But I bet I sorted through 50 different women with messages, texting back and forth to find 6 like this.

Back home, in TN it's cheaper. There's not as many but still plenty to choose from. I've had a couple as low as 200 but those are rare. It's usually 300. The ones in the 4's and 5's range tend to be more dependable, sane and sober. Go check my post history in SA to see examples.[/QUOTE]Everything Whitesun said is true. I'm at my wits end on SB as 90+% don't even respond even when messaging you first. But when you do find a gem it's much better than any true pro from my experience.

TKDfan, very much looking forward to your report after your visit. Yes, so much depends on the amount of competition the girls have and the cost of living for the given area in determining how much the girls charge. Just curious, do you only pursue girls that have a verification video or does it not matter? Trying to get better at finding the good ones.

Due to the stupidity of not minting pennies anymore, we may need to alter that saying, but, anyway.

The price for SA is obviously getting out of hand (unless you're some crypto-loving CHUD) and is part and parcel of the same 'enshittening' that's happening all over the world, as products only answer to stockholders and stop caring about offering a quality experience to actual human beings. That said, when it was semi-reasonable and semi-reliable, pretty much all of my pulls came from there, including some teenage gems and a few people who are still friends and occasional visits.

But Secret Benefits may actually be worse, since I've seen some amount of believable chatter that they are using bots to manipulate old, out-of-date profiles to make them seem active when they are not. All told, I think I wasted more money on them than I did Seeking, and I got essentially nothing to show for it in all that time; maybe one number from some ex-Playboy model that I probably could have had elsewhere or grabbed from another senior member, and one other number I didn't even use when someone else mentioned the girl was boring in bed.

All that said, I think SugarDaddyMeet might be the only one that's a cross of bang-for-buck and a clear and trustworthy experience. It's obviously far cheaper than the others for what you get; the issue, of course, is that they don't have the advertising budget or recognition of the other two. Then again, that may be the point.

Think about logging in to this site. What's the first thing you get plied with? A big fucking ad from the SB website. Where do you think that money's coming from? It's coming from all the damn foolishness of them giving you the runaround, so they can keep advertising and keep giving someone else the runaround, that's what. That SDM doesn't do that is, in this climate, almost a positive of their site.

I only had a 6-month membership there in '23, but I got more numbers from real women in that time than I did any other website, by far. I never met any of the women, but they were all verifiable one way or another; you could find their socials, or another member knew about them, or they had a Seeking account as well. Of course, the problem is that it's so location-dependent, and if you're not near a city, your market is going to be dry. But, for somewhere like Vegas, I'd imagine it's pretty good. DMV was functional, and I'd think LV would be too. I would imagine that anywhere with less population density, SDM isn't even going to be an option, because not enough women know about it.

[QUOTE=Cbears;7491668]Everything Whitesun said is true. I'm at my wits end on SB as 90+% don't even respond even when messaging you first. But when you do find a gem it's much better than any true pro from my experience.

TKDfan, very much looking forward to your report after your visit. Yes, so much depends on the amount of competition the girls have and the cost of living for the given area in determining how much the girls charge. Just curious, do you only pursue girls that have a verification video or does it not matter? Trying to get better at finding the good ones.[/QUOTE]I try to pursue one's that have at least a few months old account. If the account is created in the last couple weeks, I don't bother. I usually don't bother with the Gold or Platinum or whatever they are accounts either.

I look for what appears to be real pictures. Not the professional photos where they're standing in Dubai or some other fancy and very expensive backdrop. On a pontoon boat, yes. On a luxury yacht, nope. That kind of stuff.

I've got a fairly rehearsed spill at this point that seems to work.

Keep it light hearted. Looking for a connection. Work in a dad joke sometimes. I view this as just modern dating. . Stuff like that.

I met up with my ATF this morning at 5 am. 110 lb in shape MILF with a professional career. She drove 30 minutes to a hotel room I got last night. Arrived perfectly on time. 3 hours together. She gave me a back rub and a very nice back scratch for about 45 minutes in between rounds. In missionary she would lightly bite my ear lobe with one hand on the back of my head and hold me closer like that so she could whisper command me to cum in her pussy. Those are the kinds of experiences I'm after and have had success finding.

Aria.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2677c434-5c17-4081-8f43-e335e5d095bc[/URL]

Wants 400 for M&G.

Maui7.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b79dcbe7-f202-4469-bece-4da5829a5998[/URL]

Wants 200 for M&G.

If anyone wants to do number swaps DM me. I have so many seeking girls numbers. I have done my fair share of meets. I'm also good at getting numbers so if you need help getting a number, DM me.

Itfcd. Very good info. Few years ago I was perma-banned from seeking for mistakenly bringing up money in a private message. So last year I signed up for secret benefits and it's been super frustrating and mostly a waste for all the reasons you mentioned. Did get one gem and agreed to terms with a couple other real women but for the amount of time it took plus the cost of credits, I won't be buying more credits when I run out. I recently appealed and got unbanned from seeking but haven't renewed my membership because of how expensive it is and the fear of more bots like on SB. I'm glad you brought up sugar daddy meet. I've seen a couple of their posts on here but just assumed it would be dry as seeking and SB are the big 2 so to speak. I may actually sign up now based on what you said.

TKDfan. Very good insight. I get so many message me that just created the account so I insta-ignore those too. We are definitely after the same type of experiences. I'd much rather have an experience like you described with a 7/10 versus a 10/10 dead fish.

[QUOTE=Rfv123;7492305]Aria.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2677c434-5c17-4081-8f43-e335e5d095bc[/URL]

Wants 400 for M&G.

Maui7.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b79dcbe7-f202-4469-bece-4da5829a5998[/URL]

Wants 200 for M&G.

If anyone wants to do number swaps DM me. I have so many seeking girls numbers. I have done my fair share of meets. I'm also good at getting numbers so if you need help getting a number, DM me.[/QUOTE]Are any of you actually paying for a simple M & G? I tell them upfront that while I am willing to do a M & G and cover drinks or dinner, I am not paying money without intimacy.

[QUOTE=JimRob;7492629]Are any of you actually paying for a simple M & G? I tell them upfront that while I am willing to do a M & G and cover drinks or dinner, I am not paying money without intimacy.[/QUOTE]Someone's paying that's why they're getting away with this.

I recall talking to Aria (aka Ariaw88 on sb) she wanted 500 ppm and she was pretty clear it will NOT be intimate at all.

[URL]https://www.secretbenefits.com/next/profile/83ba68927b7a54e1[/URL]

I suppose no one is paying 500 for that so she's dropping it to 400. She's got about 221 k followers on IG so I'm sure she's getting $$.

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/itsariawest[/URL]

[QUOTE=JimRob;7492629]Are any of you actually paying for a simple M & G? I tell them upfront that while I am willing to do a M & G and cover drinks or dinner, I am not paying money without intimacy.[/QUOTE]I have been paying m&g for a couple of high class girls. It all ended up really well.