[QUOTE=F Scott;1357132]I opened my email this morning and found these from my former employee. Hooray![/QUOTE]Scott, you are a gentleman AND a scholar.
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[QUOTE=F Scott;1357132]I opened my email this morning and found these from my former employee. Hooray![/QUOTE]Scott, you are a gentleman AND a scholar.
[QUOTE=Literal2;1357195]Scott, you are a gentleman AND a scholar.[/QUOTE]Well, Lit, I have you to thank for starting this thread and opening my eyes to the wonders of these little babies and the pursuit as a whole. I would gladly cede the leader's spot, if indeed I am there, to anyone who gains more experience. In my mind, we are all winners, right?
Scott
Gentlemen of Richmond:
I have to applaud you for your exploits. I saw this thread one morning on the front page and have been following it since. As I have tried my luck in beautiful Knoxville, TN, on both SD4me and SA, I thought I might share a couple of experiences, both good and bad.
SD4me had a reasonably large selection of ladies in this area. I set up an account without a pic, paid for the full deal so I could email, etc. Two hits, three misses. First hit (SB1) was a 20-yr old girl newly moved to this area from another state. Had some modeling pics, told me she used to be a dancer in Florida. When I got her number, googled it and found a BP ad from last spring (2011) in the DC area. Pics matched. Sugar was not mentioned, and I picked her up, took her to the FC, and had a very energetic romp in the hay. Before a second romp, however, further google from some of our conversation led me to find a criminal record in her previous home state, and a continuing probation. Great sex, but given the background and the possibility that she is a professional, I backed off. Sugar was reasonable at below average here for a backpage girl. A whole afternoon (4 hours!) of fucking for $$.
SB2 was another success. 25-yr old bi-sexual personal trainer. Short hair, tattoos, kinda thick-athletic bod. Had a really crappy apartment that always smelled like 420, but really got into the sex. Problem with her was she became a little too friendly and dependent. Began to get lots of emails like "rent's due, I need you to come see me", etc. I had set out at the beginning my limits on how often I could visit, amount of sugar, etc. Last couple of visits she also seemed to be getting a little attached emotionally, so I had to break it off after 5 or 6 really good times. Last week she emailed out of the blue, saying she had a hotel room and "I have to see you", even offered a break in the sugar amount, but I declined for now.
On all of my SB's, either on SD4me or SA, I have used a completely false name, a false email tied to the false name, never used my cell phone unless I blocked the number, and only used a very old, blurry photo from which all distinguishing characteristics were photoshopped out. Also made sure my vehicle was cleaned out and parked where the license plate was hidden.
My SD4me strikeouts: first (SB3) was a girl who had me pay-pal her a little sugar up-front. I know, rule number 1. But I had her address, number, etc. And had done some background checking, so I thought it would work out, as things matched up. Unfortunately, she disappeared, I was out the money and learned a valuable lesson again. SB4 was just a tease. Never actually wanted to meet, always had some excuse. Internet research eventually showed me she is still a high school senior, so even though she may be 18, don't want to go there (even though it might be fun!) SB5 was a girl who lived near me. 28, MILF with three kids and a bad marriage. Had some nice discussion, sent me some great pics of her bod, flirty phone conversations. Met her in the parking lot of her place of employment twice to chat. She was very excited about meeting in the FC, then one day disappeared. Emailed 3 days later. Her phone was cut off. Went to see her at her work again, and I volunteered to help with the bill. She did not want to accept, but finally did and said I wouldn't regret it as she really appreciated the help, right before the holidays. The next weekend, failed ot answer a text at the agreed time and later emailed hubby had had her phone. Luckily texting thru email on smartphone, so my number is still safe. After that, no responses other than that they were having financial and marriage problems, holidays were stressful, etc. I sent here an email saying cool, I I will back off, contact me after the first of the year when things calm down. So far, nothing, but I know where she works and will drop by one day just to chat. Not out much at all, and might still be a good investment.
Will save SA stories for another post!
[QUOTE=Varoom; 1357160]So I suppose I am saying that you will be parting her flesh within say, the next 3 weeks, or so. And then what? This will be another fine fix little Scotty has gotten ole Dad into.
Still time to block the email address or her acct on SD4M, before you end up taking the plunge. Think, use the BIG head sir. But, it sure would be fun to dive into, no doubt.
All the best to you on your decision, Vroom.[/QUOTE]Hey Vroom,
My life is going great right now. Youngest daughter in college, work busier than I could hope for, a flip phone full of babies, an ATF and action any time I desire, plus an Irish Cherokee that is becoming more receptive by the day. Why in the world would I want to fuck that up? Netting this little Latina would be the end of life as I know it, of that I am certain.
I appreciate the words of caution, though, and want to reassure you that I will not be settling myself between those thighs ever, as much as I want to. My exit strategy with her is to let the emails go on for as long as she will tolerate, and then either she will get fed up and move on, or I will sheepishly admit that I have found someone else. But in the meantime, the fantasies are off the chart! Aren't those some delightful tits?
All the best,
Scott
PS - the text that accompanied these pics was something about how wet taking them for me made her! How fun is that?
[QUOTE=F Scott;1357208]Well, I would gladly cede the leader's spot, if indeed I am there, to anyone who gains more experience. In my mind, we are all winners, right? Scott[/QUOTE]Graciously said.
[QUOTE=F Scott;1357132]Rather than making me feel like enough is enough, however, they make me want to fuck her so badly I can clearly hear the "slap, slap slap" of me pounding her wet pussy.[/QUOTE]This lady is a fine piece of ass. I can't determine if I prefer her fabulous ta tas or her sweet pussy or maybe her cute butt. I'll just haveto keep studying the question.
I have to take a break from the forum for a couple weeks but I shall return.
I may have started the thread but you guys have given it real life.
I will be interested to catch up with your sugarbaby fucking stories when I can. I learn something with nearly every post.
Thanks, and keep it up.
Gentlemen,
I am apparently not the sharpest pencil in the box, but when someone presents a good idea, I know enough to recognize it. I recently received a pm from a brother on this thread sharing some leads for a town that I am heading to at the end of next month. This is a pool I have fished before, unsuccessfully, but I have developed a few contacts of my own for the upcoming visit that hopefully will prove beddable.
In chasing his leads to ground on the SA site, I noticed some were not from my target town. A quick Google map revealed several smaller near-by towns, which produced additional potential babies. Duh! When I'm fishing, I don't thrash away at only one pool. I check up and down the stream for other likely holding spots. The same holds true apparently for On The Road babies.
Forgive me if this is second nature to all the rest of you, but honestly I had never thought of doing it this way before. I now have a half-dozen or more potential OTR babies to contact when the date draws nearer. Again, I apologize if this is an obvious thing to you all, and encourage you to enjoy your laugh at my naivete. If it had not occurred to you either, then here you go.
Lit, I respect your desire for privacy, but remember your way back here when the time comes.
Keep up the good work, and don't forget to write,
Scott
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1357473]Gentlemen,
I am apparently not the sharpest pencil in the box, but when someone presents a good idea, I know enough to recognize it. I recently received a pm from a brother on this thread sharing some leads for a town that I am heading to at the end of next month. This is a pool I have fished before, unsuccessfully, but I have developed a few contacts of my own for the upcoming visit that hopefully will prove beddable.
In chasing his leads to ground on the SA site, I noticed some were not from my target town. A quick Google map revealed several smaller near-by towns, which produced additional potential babies. Duh! When I'm fishing, I don't thrash away at only one pool. I check up and down the stream for other likely holding spots. The same holds true apparently for On The Road babies.
Forgive me if this is second nature to all the rest of you, but honestly I had never thought of doing it this way before. I now have a half-dozen or more potential OTR babies to contact when the date draws nearer. Again, I apologize if this is an obvious thing to you all, and encourage you to enjoy your laugh at my naivete. If it had not occurred to you either, then here you go.
Lit, I respect your desire for privacy, but remember your way back here when the time comes.
Keep up the good work, and don't forget to write,
Scott[/QUOTE]SA has an advanced search feature that allows you to search a designated distance from your target town.
[QUOTE=Spitfire;1357565]SA has an advanced search feature that allows you to search a designated distance from your target town.[/QUOTE]I've tried that and it gives me results across the entire state, unless I am not doing it correctly.
[QUOTE=F Scott;1357581]I've tried that and it gives me results across the entire state, unless I am not doing it correctly.[/QUOTE]Hmm. Works fine for me. Are you using the Advanced Search that says New?
[QUOTE=Spitfire;1357587]Hmm. Works fine for me. Are you using the Advanced Search that says New?[/QUOTE]No, I instinctually distrust anything that says "new". I'll give it a try, thanks.
[QUOTE=AliasSM;1357070]Still a novice at this game and have only been pursuing the SBs through CL and other sources so far. I plan to join either SB4Me or SA within the next few weeks to start the new year out right. Meanwhile, I have a 3rd meeting with by current SB tonight and am really looking forward to seeing her. It's been several weeks and she is having trouble with the rent, so there is plenty of incentive for the both of us. She is the same 30 yo that I have been in contact with since Nov. She really seems to enjoy our sessions and we both leave the FC plenty drained. I'll report on my future activities after joining a regular site. You have all been a tremendous inspiration to get me moving in 2012.[/QUOTE]Alias,
You're only a novice once. There's plenty of accumulated wisdom here, so feel free to avail yourself of it; we are more than happy to share. I would urge you to get off CL and BP, and sign up with one of the more focused sites. I promise you will find a much higher level of baby on either of these. It will take more time, more effort, and more thought, but the rewards are outstanding. Don't neglect your current SB if she is doing it for you, so to speak, but in my opinion CL is baitcasting, while SA or SD4me is fly fishing. More difficult, more expensive, but so much finer.
Good luck, and don't forget to write,
Scott
[QUOTE=Spitfire;1357587]Hmm. Works fine for me. Are you using the Advanced Search that says New?[/QUOTE]Technology is great as long as you know how to use it.
Scott,
That brings up a good point that I'm not sure has ever been covered here. I've been a monger for the most part of the past 25 years with a little time off here and there for various reasons. I know about what I spend on the hobby each year in rough numbers, and I don't mind spending the cash on a nice young lady when I know I can afford it. But I'm not sure I can afford to play the SD game at the level that I can catch, or even initially hook that HYB that is swimming in the SD4M or SA waters. I'm sure willing to try, but I'm sure that some reading this forum are reluctant to get in the game if they don't know for sure if they have the means to play it in earnest.
It's not that I have any doubt that it's worth the extra money. You and others have convinced me that it's the way to go. I'm tired of the usual BP girl that has lost enthusiasm and just goes through the motions. I spend a lot of time looking for that diamond in the rough that even comes close to the HYBs described on this forum. But I really don't know how much extra it would take to step it up a couple of notches and pursue the SB game. I realize there are minor site fees to join SA, and it sounds like most, if not all, SB dates involve a somewhat nice hotel expense. And the guidance in these postings indicate that the SB should be happy with mid-level escort rates. I can figure all of that out from the forum posts. But what is the average amount that one needs to budget monthly, considering all expenses, to get a HYB hooked and keep her interested? Can one play this game successfully at the $500 / mth level? $1000 / mth level?
Again, don't mind spending the $$ if I have them to spend, but why take the trip to Vegas if you can't play the tables?
Just curious, if any of you SMs on this forum wouldn't mind discussing this, how much does one need to budget to successfully play this game. If I can't budget at least the minimum amount, I'll be spinning my wheels with little to no success and need to stay in the BP world.
Thanks in advance for those willing to share. It might not be a subject that many of you wish to discuss here, but it would sure be good to know before jumping head-first into the game. Thanks to all of you for some great posts and entertainment over the past year.
AliasSM.
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1357629]Alias,
You're only a novice once. There's plenty of accumulated wisdom here, so feel free to avail yourself of it; we are more than happy to share. I would urge you to get off CL and BP, and sign up with one of the more focused sites. I promise you will find a much higher level of baby on either of these. It will take more time, more effort, and more thought, but the rewards are outstanding. Don't neglect your current SB if she is doing it for you, so to speak, but in my opinion CL is baitcasting, while SA or SD4me is fly fishing. More difficult, more expensive, but so much finer.
Good luck, and don't forget to write,
Scott[/QUOTE]
I am not a senior member, just a novice like you. But one of the important things I have learned from the forum is to establish the amount of sugar you need for the recipe and stick with it. You can make minor adjustments up and down based on "hottness" factor. But in the end you are going to have to live with the initial sugar you provide the SB. If the SB is happy with the sugar, wants more and you are interested you can always increase the frequency of the visits or provide other benefits. Another interesting point others have made is that using more sugar in the recipe does not always make the dish sweeter. You can use various sites to set up 3. 5 star FC'sat1. 3 star rates.
Like in Vegas I would not step up to table with a minimum bet I could not afford. But this is not Vegas. You set the minimum. Members of the forum have advised not to overly concern myself with the sugar. Focus on getting the SB into the FC. I think it is good advice.
Cmdr out.
[QUOTE=AliasSM; 1357929]Scott,
That brings up a good point that I'm not sure has ever been covered here. I've been a monger for the most part of the past 25 years with a little time off here and there for various reasons. I know about what I spend on the hobby each year in rough numbers, and I don't mind spending the cash on a nice young lady when I know I can afford it. But I'm not sure I can afford to play the SD game at the level that I can catch, or even initially hook that HYB that is swimming in the SD4M or SA waters. I'm sure willing to try, but I'm sure that some reading this forum are reluctant to get in the game if they don't know for sure if they have the means to play it in earnest.
It's not that I have any doubt that it's worth the extra money. You and others have convinced me that it's the way to go. I'm tired of the usual BP girl that has lost enthusiasm and just goes through the motions. I spend a lot of time looking for that diamond in the rough that even comes close to the HYBs described on this forum. But I really don't know how much extra it would take to step it up a couple of notches and pursue the SB game. I realize there are minor site fees to join SA, and it sounds like most, if not all, SB dates involve a somewhat nice hotel expense. And the guidance in these postings indicate that the SB should be happy with mid-level escort rates. I can figure all of that out from the forum posts. But what is the average amount that one needs to budget monthly, considering all expenses, to get a HYB hooked and keep her interested? Can one play this game successfully at the $500 / mth level? $1000 / mth level?
Again, don't mind spending the $$ if I have them to spend, but why take the trip to Vegas if you can't play the tables?
Just curious, if any of you SMs on this forum wouldn't mind discussing this, how much does one need to budget to successfully play this game. If I can't budget at least the minimum amount, I'll be spinning my wheels with little to no success and need to stay in the BP world.
Thanks in advance for those willing to share. It might not be a subject that many of you wish to discuss here, but it would sure be good to know before jumping head-first into the game. Thanks to all of you for some great posts and entertainment over the past year.
AliasSM.[/QUOTE]
I'll jump in here with my $.02. A quality girl who is way above the BP desperada is going to run you $ 1000 to 3000 / month, with $1000 being the minimum amount to play the game at least once / week. This is your basic real life girl who just wants a little extra in life and is not desperately poor.
Look at it this way. A monthly budget amount for a real SB : 1) Average escort rates . $250 / encounter. 2) a decent hotel room $ 100, dinner and drinks $100, gifts and treats $ 100, travel budget $ (don't even go there) ====$550 / meet, or $2200 / month for once / week. For a regular gig you can negotiate a monthly fee probably lower than that, and you can stay in cheaper hotels, shop for dinner at Walmart, and skip the flowers and candy each time, but this is pretty close for a non- hooker, independant upwardly mobile HYCB
My standard sugar amount is $300 per "meet", but I make it clear from the start that my work schedule does not allow a consistent, weekly scheduled meeting. This, I feel, does two things; one, it allows me to keep several babies in play simultaneously if I choose, and two, it puts the impetus on the baby to make things happen if she wants some sugar. That said, I am able to get all the action I can handle for around $1200 to $1500 / month, on average, not including incidentals like hotel, meals, little gifts etc.
I also suggest to the baby that the sugar need not always be bennies. I have bought groceries, outfits, ipods, boots (God, they can be expensive! Who knew?) , purses (ditto) and the like. In my mind, this keeps it less like a p4p situation, and more like a real dating relationship, for both me and the baby.
This may seem like a lot, but apparently in the Chicago area a cursory massage with HJ at the end that lasts 45 minutes from start to finish runs $180 on average, and this from an ancient Chinese woman with a mustache who you are thankful keeps her clothes on. For twice that, you can spend 3 to 4 hours with a hot naked college baby, banging away until your butt cramps. Which would you prefer?
Good luck in your decision making,
Scott
Thanks to both of you for your perspective. I totally understand the rationale for playing this game versus the BP option. I'm probably at best going to be able to keep around 1000 per month from the warden. Hopefully, that will be enough to keep someone interested. Probably not of the caliber you 2 have reached, but at least a step up from BP. I'll keep you all posted on what I find.
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1358263]My standard sugar amount is $300 per "meet", but I make it clear from the start that my work schedule does not allow a consistent, weekly scheduled meeting. This, I feel, does two things; one, it allows me to keep several babies in play simultaneously if I choose, and two, it puts the impetus on the baby to make things happen if she wants some sugar. That said, I am able to get all the action I can handle for around $1200 to $1500 / month, on average, not including incidentals like hotel, meals, little gifts etc.
I also suggest to the baby that the sugar need not always be bennies. I have bought groceries, outfits, ipods, boots (God, they can be expensive! Who knew?) , purses (ditto) and the like. In my mind, this keeps it less like a p4p situation, and more like a real dating relationship, for both me and the baby.
This may seem like a lot, but apparently in the Chicago area a cursory massage with HJ at the end that lasts 45 minutes from start to finish runs $180 on average, and this from an ancient Chinese woman with a mustache who you are thankful keeps her clothes on. For twice that, you can spend 3 to 4 hours with a hot naked college baby, banging away until your butt cramps. Which would you prefer?
Good luck in your decision making,
Scott[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=F Scott;1358263]My standard sugar amount is $300 per "meet"[/QUOTE]Either I'm cheap or lucky. I rarely give sugar more than $200, I did $300 once, it was not worth it.
I'm looking at $100 for room, plus the $200, if there is any dinner involved, then another 40-100. So I'm at $300-400 each meet in total anyway.
I'm also have a slightly different approach that straight up SD. However, if I could find one that I trusted enough to skip the Hotel fee, I'd definitely bump it up.
BigTigg
Thanks for the excellent advice. I agree with Subcmdr that you establish your walkaway and then start sorting through them. I have had 4 legitimate bites in 1 week so plenty of fish out there. Just need to keep working it. Keep you posted.
BTW . So SB1, the waitress who happens to be a part time stripper, is a hard negotiator on price. Hard enough that we don't get it done until the last minute and I have to leave town. Then I get the "you don't know how important it is to me to see you this week". If it was so important why were you haggling so hard? Confirms the observations around strippers, etc.
[QUOTE=BigTigger;1358583]Either I'm cheap or lucky. I rarely give sugar more than $200, I did $300 once, it was not worth it.[/QUOTE]Tigg,
I tried that when I first started, and got nowhere fast, with the exception of one HYM (hot young mom), who asked for babysitter money on top of $200, so it ended up being $250 anyway. In thinking about her, she was hot, wet and very vocal. I may have to call her again.
Scott
I'm in the same ballpark as most of the other guys here. $200 is my standard amount although I have paid $300 to one SB but for an expended period of time, up to and including overnight. If I'm not really interested in a repeat visit for whatever reason, $100 has been my norm.
[QUOTE=Magic Rat;1358986]I'm in the same ballpark as most of the other guys here. $200 is my standard amount although I have paid $300 to one SB but for an expended period of time, up to and including overnight. If I'm not really interested in a repeat visit for whatever reason, $100 has been my norm.[/QUOTE]Magic,
I'll be in your area in March, so I'm glad to know the average amount of sugar being sprinkled around down there. Any solid leads you might like to share, please pm me.
Scott
[QUOTE=Coolhand2; 1355370]CSB13 (18yrs. 5'6, C cup pierced, just above spinner body)
Two days later received a text significantly reducing the sugar to my max SB amount. I agreed (just one more time) but then she wanted to restrict the amount of time so as to try to reduce the damage to her pussy. I declined saying I would only accept the restrictions of last time which were no restrictions. I held my breath during the ride to the FC and tried to focus on what was to come but it was tough. I wish I could tell you more about her fucking skills but the same thing happened."I'm fucking a 18 yr old. I'm fucking a 18 yr old." On the ride back and I was able to pick out of the "bubble gum" torrent boyfriend issues (he can't support us) and a previous BF being released from custody. I made the decision at this point that this would be it. I noticed later she had canceled her profile on SA.[/QUOTE]The year has just started and you're at the top of the list of "reports to read / follow". My woman on the other side of the room was wondering why I was snickering but I couldn't tell her about this post. Sad but true "I'm fucking a 18 yr old. I'm fucking a 18 yr old."
[QUOTE=Bizzy Muhn;1359016]The year has just started and you're at the top of the list of "reports to read / follow". "[/QUOTE]Biz,
Join us in the pool, the water's fine!
Scott
This thread had been a bible for me the past few months. A few observations, IMO.
I've been playing both the SA sites and as well as fishing on the local CL, and to my surprise lots of the girls that replied to my posts on CL also have profiles on either SA or SD4M, so it seems many of them are out there and are also looking at various venues, and this make me think they are somewhat semi pros and not really amateurs.
Pursuing this game had been very difficult for me, especially one with an SO and a few kids, but I managed to pulled in a few decent chics (19-40). The main problem with this is not budget, since the most I ever shelled out per meet to the babies is 1. 5, but typically 1. 0, I guess I am in a cheaper market than you fellows. The problem is TIME, or lack of it. Many of these girls don't work, and does not have their own transportation so this required a pick up, treck to notel, and drop off which is about 3-4 hours requirement and for someone like me, I just don't have that luxury of time. My only meeting time is during lunch, so that limited my window to play significantly. I would have pulled in a lot more babies if I had the time.
And when it come to sugars, the suggestions here are great. If you're not required to discussed it, don't. Just slipped something in the baby's purse on your way out, just make it a little appropriate (I assumed you know what that mean). And if you are required to put a number up front, make it a monthly allowance (for me that's usually 500-600) a month with promise of gifts, etc when I feel like it. This make it seems some-what easier for the baby to take, versus putting up a number by the hour which often comes off the wrong way.
Obviously, there are some babies that laughed at my monthly allowance and demanded 2k-5k a month, for those I say 'bye bye'. I have a budget, and I am sticking with it. Sure, if my budget were doubled, I should be able to attract more babies, but hey not every man have a nice disposable income in the back pocket (I envied some of you guys. Guess I need a second job.
Again, none of this info is new. Just a reharsh of what had been said many times by the greats in this forum. Again, the best part of this is chasing down (or seducing) a new baby.
Happy new year, and happy hunting fellows.
PS,
Scott, your ex employee is freaking HOT man.
Everytime I try CL I get hit with mega bots and just seems like a waste of time.
How do y'all do it or is it a waste of time?
[QUOTE=Zman429; 1359616]Everytime I try CL I get hit with mega bots and just seems like a waste of time.
How do why'all do it or is it a waste of time?[/QUOTE]If you are going to try the CL route, be prepared for mostly BS and spammers. I have been doing it awhile, so I can almost tell who is fake and who isn't. If the response is a yahoo or hotmail address, I usually check the IP location with whatismyIPaddress. Com. If you are unfamiliar with how to do that, the site does a good job of telling you how. If the IP location comes up to Venezuela, Viet Nam, etc, you know its fake. If its near my home location, then I know I have most likely found a real gal. If they email is a one liner, like,"Will you meet me in Chicago (or whatever city you posted in)" along with a hot pic, its probably fake. You also can check their email by searching Facebook. Many of these gals also do nothing to hide their real names in their emails so you can check their names on FB also. There is nothing 100% in weeding out the fakes, but these are a few of the methods that I use. Some guys may say its too much trouble, and sometimes I am almost of the same opinion. However, I have lucked up on a few hotties through CL, including a hot latina Hooter girl once. Those are few and far between, BELIEVE ME!
I have been reading this tread for some time, and I have been playing with the SBs, UTF girls as well as the pros for some time now. I still exchange email with the 1st SB I met some 6 or 7 years ago, she was an out of town girl I would see when visiting her city. I thought I would post some things that have worked for me over the years to help others.
Saving $:
Hotels can drive up the cost of playing with the UTR or SB but, there are some ways to help cut it some. Look around at the 2nd tire hotels like Best western, some of them have been redone and are good values and the rooms can be just as nice as the higher priced places. When you find a good place see if you can talk to the manager after you have 'stayed' there several times, they may work with you now that travel is down and rooms are setting empty. Think about having a lunch date and a dinner date on the same day, if you don't or can't make a bed give the cleaning crew $5 or$10 to clean it up real quick.
Little gifts, if your plans are to have longer term playmates the day after Valentines is a blessing, silk Rosses and other little gifts are on sale, get them then and be creative. A box of the little candy harts for 50 cents becomes a grand romantic gesture when you put them on the bed in the shape of a hart in 6 months after V day.
The gift to the girl, I never have had any of them ask or tell me about the gift before a play date, but I did have one that wanted more after several meetings (she had lost her job) , I asked her to tell me what she wanted, it was 100 more making it 250. I said I would like to see her 2 times a week for that, it worked and everything was back to normal. I don't look at the 'gift talk' as a bad thing once they have shown their value; I look at it as an opportunity and if things don't work then I can walk away.
If your budget is very restrictive you may want to save, play, save, women have always put a little away all the time, if you think your wife or girls isn't your fooling yourself, be like them and put a little away and build a play fund during times you are not seeing anyone (if that time comes) so that you can play longer or better.
The last thing I want to say is, I always know who I'm playing with, I saw some negative input on 'finding out who they are' here. For me it costs little and ads security and peace of mind, You should never let the girl know you know about her but, ask yourself how you would be effected if a husband showed up, or as has been reported here you got the black mail attempt, there are other things that could come up as well. If you know who your playmates are you can judge the likely hood of these things happening and be ready to deal with them if they do, or choose not to play with that one. I say this from experience for more than one occasion, it's up to each one of us to protect ourselves to the level we feel appropriate while still being aware that our playmates have needs.
Just my thoughts and I hope it helps someone.
Well, after having the profile up on SA for a little over a week, I decided to pay up so I could respond to some interesting nibbles I'd gotten. Maybe three on the line right now, though one might get dropped due to distance. Guess it's time for me to see how well I can play this game, and time to rtff a bit more to see what hints I can pick up.
As the title says, let the games begin!
This thread is one of the more intriguing ones on the USASG and potentially one of the more useful ones. I say "potentially" because for me, I know I cannot afford the $1000+ / month to play this game, unless I were single with no kids. LOL. I mean, I've got the income, but it's not very disposable.
Out of curiosity, I did a few Google searches like "review sugar daddy for me" (and similar) , and found mostly negative review of these sites, in contrast to the rather positive testimonials on this thread. Well, google it yourselves! One of the major complaints I found was that credit cards would get charged and it became very difficult to cancel the account. The site would give no answers to e-mails, phone calls, or other attempts to contact them to stop charging. (On the other hand, one could argue that if you cannot afford $35 / mo for the site then why try to be a sugar daddy?). I suppose one could try a temporary credit card with 3 months worth of money on it. I'm wondering what your experiences are?
Recently, I did sign up (without paying) for a SD site and browsed around. It looked promising and worth a $100 gamble. Funny thing is, although my profile didn't appear anywhere (since I did not pay), for several days I got a bunch of e-mails from alleged site members who were hot young women with attractive photographs inviting me to sign up. Funny !
[QUOTE=Snake27; 1360537]This thread is one of the more intriguing ones on the USASG and potentially one of the more useful ones. I say "potentially" because for me, I know I cannot afford the $1000+/month to play this game, unless I were single with no kids. LOL. I mean, I've got the income, but it's not very disposable.
Out of curiosity, I did a few Google searches like "review sugar daddy for me" (and similar) , and found mostly negative review of these sites, in contrast to the rather positive testimonials on this thread. Well, google it yourselves! One of the major complaints I found was that credit cards would get charged and it became very difficult to cancel the account. The site would give no answers to e-mails, phone calls, or other attempts to contact them to stop charging. (On the other hand, one could argue that if you cannot afford $35 / mo for the site then why try to be a sugar daddy?). I suppose one could try a temporary credit card with 3 months worth of money on it. I'm wondering what your experiences are?
Recently, I did sign up (without paying) for a SD site and browsed around. It looked promising and worth a $100 gamble. Funny thing is, although my profile didn't appear anywhere (since I did not pay) , for several days I got a bunch of e-mails from alleged site members who were hot young women with attractive photographs inviting me to sign up. Funny![/QUOTE]SD4Me is notoriously difficult to cancel as several forum contributors have noted. I will never use SD4Me again after the difficulty I had in cancelling. SA, on the other hand, is very easy to cancel. All of these sites have 'bait' profiles to lure you in. They have algorithms that scan profiles and come up with profiles that fit what they believe you want. SD4Me has more of that (in my opinion) , but all of them have it. That's not to say there aren't genuine profiles on them. There are. You just have to weed through them.
Happy MLK day guys. Maybe on our time off today we could frequent our fav SB I know I am going to!
Smoke.you are working things a little cheaper which I have done as well. The desperadas as I am won't to call them.the desperately poor. (or Nando type 1) are so much more drama. Try very hard to upgrade to independant girls.that is 1) they have a self sustaining job and 2) they have a license AND a vehicle. If Sugar is for special things and not sustainance you will have a happier less stressful hobby experience.
RE : cancelling SDforme. I cancelled a free 3 day trial 1 month ago and they didn't respond for 1 week, but.I did get an offer for a free two (2) months after paying for that unneeded 1st month. So they are getting a little better. The best way of dealing with them is to pay with a reloadable card.like Walmart VISA.
BP / CL .has very low quality girls.at least from my experience. I found one 21 yr old Nando 1 who was a good roll but was totally irresponsible and after cancelling on me twice I blew her off.
My SB continues to thrill me and unlike our friend Scott I am monogamous and loving it! She is always available, is totally self sufficient, and treats me like a King. I'm a lot happier than with my multifucking days. I know nothing lasts forever though but I'm going to ride this streak while the riding is good.
[QUOTE=Castlerae; 1360481]Well, after having the profile up on SA for a little over a week, I decided to pay up so I could respond to some interesting nibbles I'd gotten. Maybe three on the line right now, though one might get dropped due to distance. Guess it's time for me to see how well I can play this game, and time to rtff a bit more to see what hints I can pick up.
As the title says, let the games begin![/QUOTE]Castle,
If I can offer any insights / intel into babies that strike your fancy, let me know. I am in your general area.
Scott
[QUOTE=Hernando;1360756]My SB continues to thrill me and unlike our friend Scott I am monogamous and loving it! She is always available, is totally self sufficient, and treats me like a King. I'm a lot happier than with my multifucking days. I know nothing lasts forever though but I'm going to ride this streak while the riding is good.[/QUOTE]Nando,
Sadly, my quiet time ratio with my ATF has dropped off significantly. We still communicate almost every day, but recently our dates have been for lunch, and not for more important things. I don't know if this is a phase she is going through (hopefully) , or if the bloom is off the rose for her (hopefully not) , but our time may be coming to an end. I hope not, but am preparing for the worst. I may have sensed this coming but just not wanted to confront it head-on.
We shall see,
Scott
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1361032]Castle,
If I can offer any insights / intel into babies that strike your fancy, let me know. I am in your general area.
Scott[/QUOTE]I appreciate the mentoring offer, and might take you up on it if things develop a bit more. Right now, I've decided to rule one of the preliminary nibbles out (3+ hours ONE WAY to get to her location!) , and while I've contacted the rest, only one has gotten back to me. Right now, we're starting the dance of figuring out what she wants to give / what I want to get / how much it's all going to cost. Should be interesting. Will keep one and all apprized as things progress.
" Sadly, my quiet time ratio with my ATF has dropped off significantly-" Well Scotty, all things run their course I guess. I hope she has not lost interest but you seem to have moved on into other fine sounding pussies. It's good to get up on another horse when you fall off.
Is she the reason for the slow down on bedroom time? What reason does she give for it? And have you confronted her about it including the alternatives you will be (are) taking if she does not have / make time for you? My Baby was trolling the SD site and when I confronted her she totally backed off and made me confident that she was still into me (my money ). Things do change and my SB doesn't text me sweet nothings as much, but we do see each other more. My SB is always available when I want her. This tells me that I am still a priority in her life. The fact that your s is not so available might just be a real change in her schedule, but might be a lessening of need for intimacy. I feel like where there is a will.there's a way.
Good luck Brother.I feel your pain and hope for the best with her. I know she means a lot to you. Rein her back in!
[QUOTE=VAJimbo;1360259]Hotels can drive up the cost of playing with the UTR or SB but, there are some ways to help cut it some. Look around at the 2nd tire hotels like Best western, some of them have been redone and are good values and the rooms can be just as nice as the higher priced places. When you find a good place see if you can talk to the manager after you have 'stayed' there several times, they may work with you now that travel is down and rooms are setting empty. Think about having a lunch date and a dinner date on the same day, if you don't or can't make a bed give the cleaning crew $5 or$10 to clean it up real quick.[/QUOTE]Don't forget Hotwire, I'm a walking advertisement for them.
Examples:
Maryland Holiday Inn. $57 per night (Got 2 nights and hit 2 different SBs)
Maryland Candlewood Suites. $54.
Maryland Westin. $72.
New Jersery Sheraton.$89.
Maryland Hyatt Regency. $94 (This was less than 50% of published price)
Philadelphia Embassy Suites. $83 (Another great deal)
Gentlemen,
My ATF has been maintaining what I would call significant radio silence for well over a week now, and I'm afraid that this is the end. I have texted, called and left a voice mail, and sent an email, just like any infatuated 'tweener schoolgirl would, and so far nothing more meaningful than "thinking of you". For those of us keeping track, this week was to be our second overnight, and this one out of town to boot! I honestly don't know what to make of it.
If this is, indeed, The End, I now ask myself if I would have acted differently, and not put all my emotional eggs in this fabulous little basket? Truthfully, I don't think so. The times were magical, whether genuine or not, and I completely enjoyed every second of them. In a strange twist, the contemplation of The End has kind of put me off my feed, so I may not be posting of new babies being bedded in the near future, though God knows they are out there. If I go into mourning for a while, I hope my brothers will understand.
In the meantime, keep up the good work,
Scott
[QUOTE=F Scott; 1362855]Gentlemen,
My ATF has been maintaining what I would call significant radio silence for well over a week now, and I'm afraid that this is the end. I have texted, called and left a voice mail, and sent an email, just like any infatuated 'tweener schoolgirl would, and so far nothing more meaningful than "thinking of you". For those of us keeping track, this week was to be our second overnight, and this one out of town to boot! I honestly don't know what to make of it.
If this is, indeed, The End, I now ask myself if I would have acted differently, and not put all my emotional eggs in this fabulous little basket? Truthfully, I don't think so. The times were magical, whether genuine or not, and I completely enjoyed every second of them. In a strange twist, the contemplation of The End has kind of put me off my feed, so I may not be posting of new babies being bedded in the near future, though God knows they are out there. If I go into mourning for a while, I hope my brothers will understand.
In the meantime, keep up the good work,
Scott[/QUOTE]Maybe she's worried about the out of town, maybe she's busy who knows. Been thru this myself sometimes things cool down then heat up again