Escort Reports

[QUOTE=JRichard;4821307]Unbelievable / It's no wonder why the prices are going up when overall economic times are slower for most. At 160 my money is going to the AMP's. There are very few that I would contribute that kind of money to on X or STG. Even the two that multiple pages here have been written about. They are okay, but again, they don't command that kind of money. There are to many risks, many being types of risks associated with them. At this stage, I try to minimize those risks to absolute minimum. AMP's have that criteria.[/QUOTE]I disagree. I don't do fields, parking lots, side streets abandoned areas or in calls. An hr and half roundtrip to my place and date equals 2. 5 hrs. Her time plus driver. Uber would be $70 w / o tip. No LE concerns as I am in different State. No concerns about traffic stop with her possible having banned items. Plus I down a few when I date. No hassle finding a notel. Wake up this is 2020 people get groceries delivered and food delivered. I pay a bit more for the convenience and safety. But not much. As discussed previously everyone is looking for what best suits them. I can assure you from a lot of experiences most try to charge a lot more and quality isn't that much better than this date was and in a relaxed environment of my own place.

I'm with Morgan on this one.



[QUOTE=MorganT;4821380]I disagree. I don't do fields, parking lots, side streets abandoned areas or in calls. An hr and half roundtrip to my place and date equals 2. 5 hrs. Her time plus driver. Uber would be $70 w / o tip. No LE concerns as I am in different State. No concerns about traffic stop with her possible having banned items. Plus I down a few when I date. No hassle finding a notel. Wake up this is 2020 people get groceries delivered and food delivered. I pay a bit more for the convenience and safety. But not much. As discussed previously everyone is looking for what best suits them. I can assure you from a lot of experiences most try to charge a lot more and quality isn't that much better than this date was and in a relaxed environment of my own place.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=HomeyD;4821448]I'm with Morgan on this one.

Yeah, there's definitely pros and cons to both methods. Should it is admittedly nice to eliminate some of the stresses of the hobby by using mogans approach, it does require planning, preparation, and is a bit more costly. However, if it works, it works.
I don't think anyone in this hobby would honestly say they wouldn't like the convenience of just ordering online.

.[/QUOTE]Yeah, there's definitely pros and cons to both methods. While it is admittedly nice to eliminate some of the stresses of the hobby by using mogans approach, it does require planning, preparation, and is a bit more costly. However, if it works, it works.

I don't think anyone in this hobby would honestly say they wouldn't like the convenience of just ordering online.

[QUOTE=PPJones;4821543]Yeah, there's definitely pros and cons to both methods. While it is admittedly nice to eliminate some of the stresses of the hobby by using mogans approach, it does require planning, preparation, and is a bit more costly. However, if it works, it works.

I don't think anyone in this hobby would honestly say they wouldn't like the convenience of just ordering online.[/QUOTE]It surely limits the selection of available dates and I'll admit I'm not as skilled as many here to scoop. For now safety is my 1st priority and I guess I'm too lazy to do all the cruising around. Got to love online ordering.

[QUOTE=MorganT;4821628]It surely limits the selection of available dates and I'll admit I'm not as skilled as many here to scoop. For now safety is my 1st priority and I guess I'm too lazy to do all the cruising around. Got to love online ordering.[/QUOTE]Now that you defined that the 160 included some travel time, the rate seems more reasonable. I still think you should be thinking of street girls who post on line as 60-80 range. You don't have to pay Uber rates for her travel either, if she has a driver. Usually a fiend will take them for gas money 20-30. You don't have to be skilled at scooping, just skilled at negotiating. Never pay list or first ask price. So try some techniques on pricing and see what you can do.

Second, while convenience is great in getting stuff delivered, this isn't like ordering a pizza. [I]does this need definition?[/I] Do you really want to bring street girls to your home? There can be a lot of drama that can bleed outside and be observed by the neighbors. Girl can get sticky fingers or scope your place out and visit when you aren't there IF doing so seems worthwhile. Then when a date involves a "driver" several other concerns: someone sitting outside your place while lady goes inside. Dude can bust in at some point. Then on top of that, do you know for certain who you are giving your address to when you order take out? How do you know the girl is legit and not one of the "exposing Johns" vigilanti's, or worse?

While it seems "easy" and one has everything figured out, lots of dudes thought that about the "convenience" of a escort service online, hosting just a minute off the expressway. So a few things to think about as one evaluates the way they hobby. Go into it with open eyes and not just thinking, Hey this is easy or convinient.

A friend in a neighboring state thought he had everything covered when coming to his home.

Well he didn't take into an OD or an OD Death.

You guessed it. She checked out, he called the ambulance, which you know has sirens, police follow, again with sirens, sirens attract neighbors, neighbors ask questions and dig further and cause problems, as the police weren't enough.

FF. She was pronounced at the hospital. Even though it was an OD they wanted information on where it was purchased and thought he was instrumental in the purchase and thus the OD. They became relentless based on the packaging logo on the bags. He was under close scrutiny for many months and had many interactions with LE in the weeks that followed.

This was an Epic Fail.

[QUOTE=MorganT;4820906]Nice girl. 1. 6 out hr. Great bb mic skills and rode like a champ.[/QUOTE]Wow! 1. 6 is what you paid? 4 x what she usually charges. Glad you had a good time though. By the way, I have this sweet Ford Pinto in decent condition I can sell you. I'll give you a great deal, only $29,995.

Saw Keira yesterday for a date and boy was the neighborhood sketchy. I go in and she's rooming with someone but has like 10 cats int he house. We prepare for the date (damage was 150 for an hour) and then she mentioned that she can't really do anything but mish due to her hip. After an alright BJ we do mish for fifteen minutes and I finish. She had only one rubber and said she'll go to the corner store and get another. I decided to end the date there and she said she'll give me some of donation back (a first ever that this happened to me) I got back 50 and went on my way and found my car intact.

Would I repeat? Hell No! I got pulled in with her $150 special but should've done my research about her here.

Awesome that she gave me a fraction of my donation back! Rarely do dates do that. If you want to take a risk and want mish go for it.

[QUOTE=CK465;4827901]Saw Keira yesterday for a date and boy was the neighborhood sketchy. I go in and she's rooming with someone but has like 10 cats int he house. We prepare for the date (damage was 150 for an hour) and then she mentioned that she can't really do anything but mish due to her hip. After an alright BJ we do mish for fifteen minutes and I finish. She had only one rubber and said she'll go to the corner store and get another. I decided to end the date there and she said she'll give me some of donation back (a first ever that this happened to me) I got back 50 and went on my way and found my car intact.

Would I repeat? Hell No! I got pulled in with her $150 special but should've done my research about her here.

Awesome that she gave me a fraction of my donation back! Rarely do dates do that. If you want to take a risk and want mish go for it.[/QUOTE]There is another provider that has ads on X.

Same area, not good at all. Early am is okay until about 9:00.

But that is the latest I would be in there unless you have a really good tan. Especially now with people taking what they want with little to no fear of repercussions.

[QUOTE=WhyKnot1081;4803927]The BEST provider I ever did business with. Period. Hands down! Not even a contest![/QUOTE]Delaware's Fav. Stacey is back. Saw her last night and wow, a great time. Mostly seeing past friends so hit her up if you have a history. As always YMMV.

[QUOTE=RugByMan;4822775]Wow! 1. 6 is what you paid? 4 x what she usually charges. Glad you had a good time though. By the way, I have this sweet Ford Pinto in decent condition I can sell you. I'll give you a great deal, only $29,995.[/QUOTE]Eh, I think this horse has been beat enough. Dude 'splained rate included travel. So not what I would do, seems reasonable enough. Don't want to discourage anyone from posting.

Now a Ford Pinto? Is that one with the exploding gas tank or a "fixed" model? What color? Powder Blue or emerald green?

I will say this, Jaci can be a good date when she puts herself into it!

[QUOTE=CK465;4827901]Saw Keira yesterday for a date and boy was the neighborhood sketchy. I go in and she's rooming with someone but has like 10 cats int he house. We prepare for the date (damage was 150 for an hour) and then she mentioned that she can't really do anything but mish due to her hip. After an alright BJ we do mish for fifteen minutes and I finish. She had only one rubber and said she'll go to the corner store and get another. I decided to end the date there and she said she'll give me some of donation back (a first ever that this happened to me) I got back 50 and went on my way and found my car intact.

Would I repeat? Hell No! I got pulled in with her $150 special but should've done my research about her here.

Awesome that she gave me a fraction of my donation back! Rarely do dates do that. If you want to take a risk and want mish go for it.[/QUOTE]Just saying. But if one had done some searching on these forums one could have found reviews that mentioned she lives in a sketchy area and more about dates with her, her place, etc. There are two ways to learn in this hobby: 1) "book learning" by researching reports and doing DD and 2) "experiential learnin" making mistakes and getting in dangerous situations.

Also I'll Add. 150 for a date with Kiera? Seriously? Me thinks 50-60 will get you a car date or +10-20 an outcall SS.

Anyway, hope this experience, a non dangerous one, gets you thinking and learning. Be safe.

[QUOTE=Graham111;4805725]Pay pal. Blow up dolls. You can't make this up! Great read.[/QUOTE]Unfortunately the web site is on break too, so I can't read it.

Fellas, I'm going to be in a good spot to be able to knock out at least one bucket list item, either 2 girls or a trip to Greece. So I guess what I'm asking is, which should I go for and and recommendations? Thanks!

Patman.

[QUOTE=PatMan99;4832712]Fellas, I'm going to be in a good spot to be able to knock out at least one bucket list item, either 2 girls or a trip to Greece. So I guess what I'm asking is, which should I go for and and recommendations? Thanks!

Patman.[/QUOTE]Two girls definitely, anal is ok but it is no where near as good as a threesome. Have fun.

[QUOTE=Strange;4833300]Two girls definitely, anal is ok but it is no where near as good as a threesome. Have fun.[/QUOTE]I vote Double Down! And agree taking the ole dirt road. Isn't something I would set a planned date to do.

[QUOTE=LuvARub88;4833540]I vote Double Down! And agree taking the ole dirt road. Isn't something I would set a planned date to do.[/QUOTE]OK. Any suggestions whom to invite to the party?

[QUOTE=LuvARub88;4833540]I vote Double Down! And agree taking the ole dirt road. Isn't something I would set a planned date to do.[/QUOTE]I'd take the 3-way but only if you're sure both girls are into it. I've tried it twice and once the roses were on the nightstand and we got started it was clear in both instant that the girls were not really into to doing things with each other. In fact the second time I don't know if they ever touched one another. A lot of girls advertise that they'll swing with a 3 way because they know guys want it. It's an open question as to whether in the heat of the moment they really want it. At least with the other you can be pretty damn sure a woman isn't going to open the highway to Athens unless she's really into it.

[QUOTE=OralMaster;4834061]I'd take the 3-way but only if you're sure both girls are into it. I've tried it twice and once the roses were on the nightstand and we got started it was clear in both instant that the girls were not really into to doing things with each other. In fact the second time I don't know if they ever touched one another. A lot of girls advertise that they'll swing with a 3 way because they know guys want it. It's an open question as to whether in the heat of the moment they really want it. At least with the other you can be pretty damn sure a woman isn't going to open the highway to Athens unless she's really into it.[/QUOTE]Very good point (s).

[QUOTE=OralMaster;4834061]I'd take the 3-way but only if you're sure both girls are into it. I've tried it twice and once the roses were on the nightstand and we got started it was clear in both instant that the girls were not really into to doing things with each other. In fact the second time I don't know if they ever touched one another. A lot of girls advertise that they'll swing with a 3 way because they know guys want it. It's an open question as to whether in the heat of the moment they really want it. At least with the other you can be pretty damn sure a woman isn't going to open the highway to Athens unless she's really into it.[/QUOTE]Even if they don't play together it's still fun. Double blowjob awesome, switching back and forth between those pussies is awesome too. Just be aware, some girls want you to switch condoms when you switch girls so make sure you bring a lot of them just in case.

[QUOTE=PatMan99;4832712]Fellas, I'm going to be in a good spot to be able to knock out at least one bucket list item, either 2 girls or a trip to Greece. So I guess what I'm asking is, which should I go for and and recommendations? Thanks!

Patman.[/QUOTE]You have to understand what it is you want from a doubles date? Is it girl on girl action? Is it havig two girls to play with and getting two pops.

Finding girls who do doubles is one thing, finding two that are into girls and do girl-girl with gusto another. If just having two girls to play with is the objective, then are you looking for double BJ? Switching between the two? One riding upstairs (daty) and one riding downstairs (cg)? Are they willing to wait around for recharge and time for you to get a second pop, or is in one and done? Doubles can be very interactive with 3 always in the play-mix or it can be like dating two girls separately back to back.

Point is to know what you want so that when you go looking you can ask he right questions and find the right thing.

Another consideration, makes sense if one of the girls is a girl you have dated before and know and trust. Can cut down on the risk factors: rip-offs, bad attitudes, uncles. So if you know a dirl and have dated her before, ask if she has a friend, along with what you are looking for.

As far as who? If they are willing to plan in advance, you might be able to get doubles with Karla and Stacey.

A trip to Greece can be fun, but a rare find and often a large premium. Since this is a bucket list item, it can be fun. Mostly like the tightest thing you have had. But if you are larger or have girth girl could balk when she sees it. So ask upfront as some will say yes, then back out when they see the pole. Again, best to try this with a know girl. Again Stacey can be a candidate for this action. Me? I'd probably hold off on this one until I found a regular that was willing to go there.

Oh and the key to successful Greek is LOTS of lube and patience! Backdoor does not have natural lubricating facilities like the front. Dry, raw or unslick penetration is often painful to a girl and will get you kicked out in an instant. Reason most girls don't do Greek is most guys have no clue. One day they are hitting it doggie, see the brown eye winking at them and pull out and jam it in the backdoor! Girl shrieks in pain and dude thinks she is screaming with pleasure and loves it so he pounds HARD and she is in excruciating pain. After that no girl wants to try it again. But if you lube her up, lube a finger, go slow, allow her to adjust and then proceed. The add a finger, rinse & repeat, till you are 3 fingers in THEN she is ready for something bigger. But again, go slow, let her adjust until she is comfortable. Then you can have some fun. But if a girl is experienced at it, just be willing to follow her lead and pay attention to any rules or limits she might have.

Good luck! Let us know who, what, where, when, etc.

[QUOTE=Strange;4834248]Even if they don't play together it's still fun. Double blowjob awesome, switching back and forth between those pussies is awesome too. Just be aware, some girls want you to switch condoms when you switch girls so make sure you bring a lot of them just in case.[/QUOTE]Everything you say is true. My first time it turned into strictly double BJ. It was enjoyable. Second time mainly one girl riding cowgirl while the other set-up doggy style next to my face for DATY. For some reason she wouldn't straddle my face. Would've avoided the feeling of a pinched nerve in my neck after a few minutes. She pooped and I then I popped (not sure the earth fully shook for the girl riding me). Biggest problem was they tired to bum rush me out of their hotel room. Paid for the hour and they wanted me out after 25 minutes. I balked until a big dude showed up at the door and I decided it was best to leave. At any rate for me what I am really looking for in a 3-way includes a healthy dose of girl on girl. Just my personal taste.

Has anyone had any experience with Lilly? She's looks great in the pics and is my type. Any info on her would be appreciated before I TOFTF.

Also did a search on this forum for her and came up empty.

https://usaadultclassified.nl/ads/don-t-be-silly-cum-see-lilly-302-308-4064-40641610

Thanks in advance.

[QUOTE=MeatBall38;4837455]Has anyone had any experience with Lilly? She's looks great in the pics and is my type. Any info on her would be appreciated before I TOFTF.

Also did a search on this forum for her and came up empty.

https://usaadultclassified.nl/ads/don-t-be-silly-cum-see-lilly-302-308-4064-40641610

Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]I saw her and her gf the other day. Did not look like her pics average effort. Would not repeat.

[QUOTE=OralMaster;4835289]Everything you say is true. My first time it turned into strictly double BJ. It was enjoyable. Second time mainly one girl riding cowgirl while the other set-up doggy style next to my face for DATY. For some reason she wouldn't straddle my face. Would've avoided the feeling of a pinched nerve in my neck after a few minutes. She pooped and I then I popped (not sure the earth fully shook for the girl riding me). Biggest problem was they tired to bum rush me out of their hotel room. Paid for the hour and they wanted me out after 25 minutes. I balked until a big dude showed up at the door and I decided it was best to leave. At any rate for me what I am really looking for in a 3-way includes a healthy dose of girl on girl. Just my personal taste.[/QUOTE]Appreciate all the feedback fellas. Unfortunately my ideas (and other suggestions) have crapped out. I've tried to make contact with the Wonder Twins but it seems my references weren't enough. I may need half to board in order to get a SS, LOL. So in the meantime I'm going to try for my first meet up with Stacey and see where that goes. If anyone else has ideas for the Wonder Twins let me know. Thanks!

I heard from one of the girls that the Feds got cityx?

[QUOTE=Bill1959;4837538]I heard from one of the girls that the Feds got cityx?[/QUOTE]Yes. A discussion over on the DE other areas thread.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7289-Escort-Reports[/URL]

Remember FOSTA / SESTA that came about because of BP and their unwillingness to police their adverts and keep trafficking off the site? This is that law in action.

[QUOTE=StarForce2009;4837458]I saw her and her gf the other day. Did not look like her pics average effort. Would not repeat.[/QUOTE]Thanks Starforce. That's sad to hear, not that I'm surprised.

Spot on, Shampoo. My feedback from women is that most guys are clueless and ruin it for themselves and other guys. Greek is not suitable for short-stay activity, and a half-hour is still pushing it. Book an hour, take your time. Some girls are Greek pros, but that's not most of them, so there are 4 rules you need to understand: lube, lube, lube, patience. And not necessarily in that order.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;4835158]A trip to Greece can be fun, but a rare find and often a large premium. Since this is a bucket list item, it can be fun. Mostly like the tightest thing you have had. But if you are larger or have girth girl could balk when she sees it. So ask upfront as some will say yes, then back out when they see the pole. Again, best to try this with a know girl. Again Stacey can be a candidate for this action. Me? I'd probably hold off on this one until I found a regular that was willing to go there.

Oh and the key to successful Greek is LOTS of lube and patience! Backdoor does not have natural lubricating facilities like the front. Dry, raw or unslick penetration is often painful to a girl and will get you kicked out in an instant. Reason most girls don't do Greek is most guys have no clue. One day they are hitting it doggie, see the brown eye winking at them and pull out and jam it in the backdoor! Girl shrieks in pain and dude thinks she is screaming with pleasure and loves it so he pounds HARD and she is in excruciating pain. After that no girl wants to try it again. But if you lube her up, lube a finger, go slow, allow her to adjust and then proceed. The add a finger, rinse & repeat, till you are 3 fingers in THEN she is ready for something bigger. But again, go slow, let her adjust until she is comfortable. Then you can have some fun. But if a girl is experienced at it, just be willing to follow her lead and pay attention to any rules or limits she might have.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HomeyD;4842870]Spot on, Shampoo. My feedback from women is that most guys are clueless and ruin it for themselves and other guys. Greek is not suitable for short-stay activity, and a half-hour is still pushing it. Book an hour, take your time. Some girls are Greek pros, but that's not most of them, so there are 4 rules you need to understand: lube, lube, lube, patience. And not necessarily in that order.[/QUOTE]I agree that lots of lube and patience are key (usually). On the other hand I used to have a female friend who was certifiably addicted to Greek. She seemed to prefer that over more "normal" portals of pleasure. I'd slide it right inside her (sans lube) and she'd go nuts. Much stronger (and VERY noisy) pleasure bursts for her than through the normal activities. No doubt the exception that proves the rule LOL.

I use butt plugs first. Some times I only get the DP in the pussy but livens things up. Most can take it if not thrusting in and out. .

[QUOTE=OralMaster;4844662]I agree that lots of lube and patience are key (usually). On the other hand I used to have a female friend who was certifiably addicted to Greek. She seemed to prefer that over more "normal" portals of pleasure. I'd slide it right inside her (sans lube) and she'd go nuts. Much stronger (and VERY noisy) pleasure bursts for her than through the normal activities. No doubt the exception that proves the rule LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OralMaster;4844662]I agree that lots of lube and patience are key (usually). On the other hand I used to have a female friend who was certifiably addicted to Greek. She seemed to prefer that over more "normal" portals of pleasure. I'd slide it right inside her (sans lube) and she'd go nuts. Much stronger (and VERY noisy) pleasure bursts for her than through the normal activities. No doubt the exception that proves the rule LOL.[/QUOTE]That is a rare kind of woman. If you find one then stick with her. I've seen a few and the best one is when they play with themselves and get off while you're inside their third input. It's like a donkey punch without the punch.

They are talking about a greek freak in the dover section. You guys might want to check that out. Just don't contact me for info, read the thread instead.

[QUOTE=ChrisLooker;4845342]That is a rare kind of woman. If you find one then stick with her. I've seen a few and the best one is when they play with themselves and get off while you're inside their third input. It's like a donkey punch without the punch.

They are talking about a greek freak in the dover section. You guys might want to check that out. Just don't contact me for info, read the thread instead.[/QUOTE]If you want a Greek freak down south try Katie. Super nice, good pussy with huge labia and can switch ass to pussy all day long. Great time.

[QUOTE=Dbf3251;4845941]If you want a Greek freak down south try Katie. Super nice, good pussy with huge labia and can switch ass to pussy all day long. Great time.[/QUOTE]this is Katie greek is not listed but the posts says she does

[URL]https://delaware.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/gorgeous-irish-italian/440565004461[/URL]

I was talking about Diamond.

Wow, slim pickings lately. My 2 favorite regular girls have retired. With sites being down, selection seems to be extremely thin. So sad. Anyone out there having any luck?

[QUOTE=RugByMan;4848256]Wow, slim pickings lately. My 2 favorite regular girls have retired. With sites being down, selection seems to be extremely thin. So sad. Anyone out there having any luck?[/QUOTE]I believe Karla and Stacey are still around. So is Serena. Would love to hear who else is out there.

Just In case anyone needed help finding Greek in Dover. I actually think she prefers Greek and it's included with all her [URL]https://delaware.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/im-avail-and-ready-are-you-ss7/106865946820[/URL].

[QUOTE=RugByMan;4848256]Wow, slim pickings lately. My 2 favorite regular girls have retired. With sites being down, selection seems to be extremely thin. So sad. Anyone out there having any luck?[/QUOTE]Jeez, I don't get this. Is this like when we were kids and the pool was closed and thus "there is nothing to do?" Are ALL of the sites down? No one can find any other place to fish than one place CXG? Or USAAC?

What I don't understand is that IF mongers were doing some DD on the CXG girls, they would have found a bunch of other sites or locations, fishing holes. I guess dudes don't do DD anymore cause it takes extra time or is boring? Or something?

This issue was asked and answered.

What next, all the sites are down? Huh? See this post #1490.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7289-Escort-Reports&p=4814213&viewfull=1#post4814213[/url]

Pickings are only slim if one doesn't look around. When things change in this hobby, one needs to adapt, adjust, improvise and overcome.

Just saying.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;4848772]Jeez, I don't get this. Is this like when we were kids and the pool was closed and thus "there is nothing to do?" Are ALL of the sites down? No one can find any other place to fish than one place CXG? Or USAAC?

What I don't understand is that IF mongers were doing some DD on the CXG girls, they would have found a bunch of other sites or locations, fishing holes. I guess dudes don't do DD anymore cause it takes extra time or is boring? Or something?

This issue was asked and answered.

What next, all the sites are down? Huh? See this post #1490.

[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?7289-Escort-Reports&p=4814213&viewfull=1#post4814213[/url]

Pickings are only slim if one doesn't look around. When things change in this hobby, one needs to adapt, adjust, improvise and overcome.

Just saying.[/QUOTE]Shew, the wrath of Shampoo. Yes, I have found many sites. Most girls have not. There is no new blood, just the same old same olds posting on them. I think we can all agree it has slowed things down and its rough out there. I was just making a very general comment. Sorry it offended you so my friend. I'll buy you an Asian Massage so you can get some of your pent up anger out. 😄.

[QUOTE=Div8675;4848739]Just In case anyone needed help finding Greek in Dover. I actually think she prefers Greek and it's included with all her [URL]https://delaware.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/im-avail-and-ready-are-you-ss7/106865946820[/URL].[/QUOTE]I'm a regular, she is very curvy. Greek is amazing!