General Reports

Someone here once advised us to use Virgin Mobile for monger phones.

I've seen some writeups here about Craigslist & you fellas should know there's a separate section of the site just for CL postings which I'm starting to use. Check it out.

Craven

Big Ten,

I have been using a Virgin pay as you go phone for a couple of years now with no problem. When you sighn up just use a fake name and address. All that they care about is all of the money that they will make off of you.

[QUOTE=BigTen]This is a little off topic, but are there suggestions for a monger phone service? I have been using Trac fone, but they disconnected me when I had minutes and days left. After wasting 15 min of airtime, I called from a pay phone. They told me it was due to an upgrade and they would send me a new phone. The 3rd world call center person siad they tried to contact me at various locations (a lie, I am anonymous to them). They wanted my name and address, which I refused to provide. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

I recomend Virgin Mobile, you can pick up the "Marble" phone for $15-$20 at Walmart, target etc. They have a couple of plans but I prefer the .18 per minute with no monthly fees. All you have to do is top up every 90 days and your $ carries over. The other nice thing is you can change your phone number up to 3 times which is great for getting more free trials on the chat lines.

On a completely different subject, with the streets getting really bad ( I have sworn off SW's ) you might want to consider saving your $$ and going to Costa Rica. Airfare out of ORD is about $300 roundtrip and the chicas are incredible !!! Full service out of the Del Rey is about $60-$80 which at any given time has at least 40 chicas to choose from. Another great option is massage parlors, found a real nice one with full service and great attitude for $27.

[QUOTE=ScooterAllCity] As for the police following you after picking up your girl they will pull you over right away and arrest you and your date if it's in an area known for prostitution.[/QUOTE]

Although anything is possible and what can go wrong most likely will. Depending who the cop is and his mood that day also the department he is working out of but usually this is not the practice of LE because of lack of evidence of just giving her a ride and if you do get pulled over it might be to check you out for outstanding wants or warrants or maybe DWI so have everything correct and legal in stroll areas.

I was in this situation several years ago when I picked one up on Atkinson Ave. the SW told me not worry that he was a local traffic officer and would not bother us. They seem to know more about LE than hobbyists do.

Right now there more worried about the unmarked vice department cruisers so it's not the best time for the streets.

[QUOTE=PeeWee]Although anything is possible and what can go wrong most likely will. Depending who the cop is and his mood that day also the department he is working out of but usually this is not the practice of LE because of lack of evidence of just giving her a ride and if you do get pulled over it might be to check you out for outstanding wants or warrants or maybe DWI so have everything correct and legal in stroll areas.

I was in this situation several years ago when I picked one up on Atkinson Ave. the SW told me not worry that he was a local traffic officer and would not bother us. They seem to know more about LE than hobbyists do.

Right now there more worried about the unmarked vice department cruisers so it's not the best time for the streets.[/QUOTE]Not the practice of LE?Just giving her a ride?Lack of evidence? What are you talking about? You are in an area known for prostitution and you pick up a known prostitute. What more evidence do they need?At the very least you will get a ticket for loitering prostitution related.

You are going to tell everybody that you picked up a girl when there was a squad right there? I doubt it.

[QUOTE=Craven Morehead]Someone here once advised us to use Virgin Mobile for monger phones.

I've seen some writeups here about Craigslist & you fellas should know there's a separate section of the site just for CL postings which I'm starting to use. Check it out.

Craven[/QUOTE]

ARE you serious about wiretaps? If so, makes a lot cents (sense) to use a very low profile phone. I don't need that $#!+

P CHOP

Do you know that it takes a court order to get a wire tap on a phone line?

Highly unlikely.

[QUOTE=BigTen]This is a little off topic, but are there suggestions for a monger phone service? I have been using Trac fone, but they disconnected me when I had minutes and days left. After wasting 15 min of airtime, I called from a pay phone. They told me it was due to an upgrade and they would send me a new phone. The 3rd world call center person siad they tried to contact me at various locations (a lie, I am anonymous to them). They wanted my name and address, which I refused to provide. Any suggestions?[/QUOTE]

The Trac fones themselves are cheap, usually under 20 bucks, buying a new one and starting fresh is the only way I know how to remain totally incognito with the company.

[QUOTE=ScooterAllCity]Not the practice of LE?Just giving her a ride?Lack of evidence? What are you talking about? You are in an area known for prostitution and you pick up a known prostitute. What more evidence do they need?At the very least you will get a ticket for loitering prostitution related.

You are going to tell everybody that you picked up a girl when there was a squad right there? I doubt it.[/QUOTE]

Now if we all assume that all women in the inter city or what some hobbyists call a stroll area are known prostitutes we are in a police state mentality also all motorists passing by will be considered johns regardless of true fact "bust them all" and build more jails to hell with individual rights and freedoms.

What I wrote was my experience and no ones else. It seems sick to think that only a SW would make eye contact or act friendly open to conversation in certain areas of the city also include happy hour bars in the city. Now, is society getting that paranoid or do some of us have those great fears also it's just to bad that a hobbyists has to consider paying big $$$ just to have companionship for a hour of play. Is that the present sex dating scene around Milwaukee? I think not out in the real world.

I could rant on in here but most of the hobbyists know it's not illegal to meet or offer a ride to some unknown woman if it were we would all be in jail.

[QUOTE=PeeWee]Now if we all assume that all women in the inter city or what some hobbyists call a stroll area are known prostitutes we are in a police state mentality also all motorists passing by will be considered johns regardless of true fact "bust them all" and build more jails to hell with individual rights and freedoms.[/quote]Some 20 years ago, Nashville had a problem with SWs downtown. Nashville's finest assumed any unaccompanied female after a certain hour was only out in certain areas "loitering for the purpose." It all hit the fan when they ticketed a young black school teacher who had just left a meeting at the school board and was waiting at a bus stop to catch the bus home. And continued to insist they were in the right even after the whole story with witnesses and all came out in the paper!

Never ever assume a cop is going to be reasonable or fair with you.

I agree with you it's not illegal to offer a woman a ride but if you do it in certain areas the copper who pulls you over will tell you to "tell it to the judge".

I agree the Costa Mesa CA proves this. Last year the Costa Mesa PD were conducting a sting and the cops were arresting guys for simply talking and or pulling over for the decoy. The case was dismissed later in the CA supreme court. So this it case law.

Now mind you that in certain states there may have to be test case to stop the cops. The Ontario PD were conducting a sting and arrested some guys for simply talking to the decoy. So you may have to go court to win it. I going to do more research when time permits.

I went for a cruise this morning on my way to work. The first thing I see is a SW'er getting patted down on 34 th and Lisbon. I saw enough and just went to work.

In a case based on a prostitute's 2004 accusation, a fired Milwaukee police officer won acquittal Thursday on charges he coerced a woman into a sex act in exchange for setting her free, despite finding she was wanted on two warrants and had a crack pipe.

Milford Adams, 39, said he wants to return to work as a police officer after a jury found him not guilty on a felony charge of misconduct in office and a misdemeanor count of disorderly conduct. Its 4 1/2 hours of deliberations turned largely on the credibility of Adams' accuser, said jury forewoman Maria Jackson of Oak Creek.

"The story had changed too many times in all of her statements," Jackson said of the accuser, Melissa Gronewold.

Gronewold wept on the witness stand Tuesday while recounting the situation. She said Adams stopped her on the street, searched her and found a crack pipe, and discovered that she was wanted on two warrants before he ordered her to sit in his police car with him in an alley. There, she testified, he encouraged her to perform a sex act, which she did.

Milwaukee County Assistant District Attorney Douglas J. Simpson said in his closing argument Thursday that the events amounted to forcing Gronewold to perform the act to stay out of jail.

But her testimony varied with earlier statements about the incident. Defense attorney Michael F. Hart told jurors the discrepancies signaled Gronewold fabricated the event to catch a break on a subsequent prostitution prosecution.

I know him he's a tootie good shoe guy.

[QUOTE=Like Head]I went for a cruise this morning on my way to work. The first thing I see is a SW'er getting patted down on 34 th and Lisbon. I saw enough and just went to work.[/QUOTE]

.I also seen some of the unmarked LE cruisers in that area with there temporary light on the roof having pulled people over. At this point in time I am wondering if there busting SW's or women ( yes SW's are women also) just for being out there on the street.

You gotta figure that most SW's have little money for bail or legal representation in court and the LE officer word in court always out weights the unemployed SW's unless they have several credible witnesses Also more bad news for the hobbyists is that C/L of Milwaukee seems to be filling up with gays and a few Trannys :( plus the regular escort agency ad's BS and you gotta believe that Diesel E is right on with that Costa Rica hobby vacation especially with this sub zero weather.

These people being stopped in these areas could be involved in other things also. There is plenty of other crime that is going on in the inner city besides
street walkers. The police may just be handing out baseball cards. Who knows.

[QUOTE=Like Head]I went for a cruise this morning on my way to work. The first thing I see is a SW'er getting patted down on 34 th and Lisbon. I saw enough and just went to work.[/QUOTE]I have to wonder if this is a tactic of the new police cheif. I think they did something like this in New York. Just stopped people with the hope of finding a reason to bust them, like carrying a weapon or crack pipe. I think this lowered the crime rate dramatically.

Just out of curiousity, how much do you spend on average per month/year on this hobby? Including gas money, phones, strip clubs, SW's, CL's, AMP's, etc.

It's all about who you hook up with and for how long. Since November I spent over two thousand "all expenses included" on the hobby I had a hot regular and some strip club action but this is cooling off now and I am thinking about going back on the wagon for awhile. Last summer I spent very little cause I couldn't find anything worth while except the streets and I had other activity's going.

Often people say sex is like a appetite that it comes and goes and to much pussy is as bad as to little "how true" The same ones and the same thing's gets boring sometimes and women and there drama? LOL.

I would like to take a warm climate vacation if I can get away from the daily work schedule:)

Anyone else care to comment on there hobby expense?

My hobbying expenses are way down. I no longer troll the streets, but use the chatlines(rarely) and CL. CL though I only use in replying to W4M in the Casual Encounters section. Yeah yeah yeah, vast majority are fake and/or you never hear back. BUT patience does have rewards. I have banged 3 housewives/divorcees since August. 2 of them have been a monthly romp, one was a couple and all he did was watch me tap her.

A few hints to maximize return on investment(time). NEVER send a cock pic unless they ask you to; I send a face photo. ALWAYS be polite and use words like "touch, caress, cuddling...etc". Lonely chicks eat that stuff up. At some point in the emails use the line "I want to make sure you are comfortable" and "I'm nervous too" For me that has proven to be the closer.

The last chick I hooked up with was a little hottie. 5'3 120 great tits. She has been divorced for a few years and has had NO sex in that time and was just craving cock. I walked in and she attacked me in the doorway. Lips locked, soon naked...fast forward to the sweatfest...she screams out.. "I want your cock in my ass!!!!!!!!!!" I was in heaven lol.

So, while mongering has slowed down considerably, Im still active, just utilizing a different market...a FREE one :D

You're my hero Eddie. That's the way to cut back on expenses. I've tried the Casual Encounters section, but I've had very little success. I had one on the hook but she seemed more interested in sending emails than actually meeting. Maybe I should test the waters again.

IMO, the chicks that post on CL CE may come across as wanton sluts who want to get fucked by a big cock....hence most men send the cock pics with lines like.."I gonna fuck you sooooo good" "howdya like to ride this sausage" ..... however, everyone of the women Ive hooked up with laugh at that shit. Go for the heart strings; not too thick, but play that shit up. Deep down, they just want attention and havnt had sex in a longgg time. Why do I share this you ask? because most will probably still send the cock pics and end up wanking anyhow. If anyone ends up seeing the little lawyers wife minx in Brookfield, tell her that Eddie really misses her tongue in his ass. ;)

The CL personals may be a goldmine but that goldmine sits squarely in the middle of a minefield. The potential drama list is unending, irate hubbies/boyfriends, clingitis , revenge and many many more. If they were just looking for anonymous sex why would they waste their time online when they could get laid in minutes at any corner bar ? I am much more comfortable making it a business transaction than a personal matter, those personal matters have a way of boomeranging and costing more in aggravation if not money.

My main monger motto is simple, crude and to the point, you are NOT paying the lady for sex - you ARE paying them to leave when you are done.

Just my 2 cents ( adjusted for inflation of course )

At 1130 pm Tues. night I thought I would take a spin threw the hood and see if I could get a super deal because of the -10 below wheather. Im heading east on center at 18 I see a great round ass freezing at the bus stop, so like the gentleman that I am, I see if she would like a ride instead of freezing. She gets in and we drive, now I take a good look at her and she is HOTT Im thinking no way is she a pro, Great wieve, make-up on and smelled great with a bubbley personality to match.Well the drama part soon started "I had a fire at my house last week" BLAH, BLAH BLAH, long story alittle shorter took her to my hobby house best GFE EVER so far, for .25 I have a cell number I hope it works! I will trade with senior members, if it works!

Lvrndazz

Lvrndazz, if it works, I have digits to trade back to you.

Diesel, you are so very right, we pay them to leave. But I have to admit that dodging mines is very cool. I think Id rather dodge a mine than flashing red lights though. It does though bring back a memory of some years back, Im nailing a neighborhood lady(I was 24, she was 40's). Im mid thump and all of a sudden we can hear the autogarage door opening...husband..lmao, I jumped up, pecker full mast and hightailed in out the front door, shoes in hand as he walked in through the kitchen...close call but damn it was exhilerating. I banged her for about 6 months and still see her around from time to time; she doesnt look all that bad for being 60 something...hhmmm...maybe, just maybe ;) HA

Now where is the average monger going to find a safe hobby house on the North side or any side? Those $45 plus motels are cutting into the wallet plus her expense. Now I might have over stated my expense on the hobby but you know the feeling before and after a series of encounters.

I really don't use the internet for the hobby the strip clubs and streets seem safer for myself or maybe I reading to much news about men getting busted online sometimes I think there's more police online than off.

Yes, you would be surprised on the number of women that can go without sex for years LOL especially the older ones and then they seem not to want it but it's been my experience that providers of the sex trade do want sex and have it often and most turn on to it when you give it to them so it figures that some have a sex addiction.

Now I hope LE doesn't stake out that 16 & Center St. area it's always been a good SW neighborhood especially in warm weather also I noticed a real cutie by that fire station on Tetonia last week but the hobby mood escaped me.

Well her cell number says its not in service so as of now her number is not working, or it was a fake number, what ever. PeeWee Im just lucky to have a couple of rental properties in the area, and if one is not rented I have a nice blow up mattress and blankets and a little cooler with beer and wine coolers there you have it instant hobby house.

Lvrndazz

Had to make a trip down to your fine city on Wed. to Drop a family member off at Amtrak, and figured as long as I was there.... Made a trip down 35th, just a few blocks south of North rd. came across a BSW in a pair of gray sweat pants goes by the name of Bianca. Very nice BBBJ for .20 Will look for her again in the future. Snow flurries made things a bit slippery on the way home.

[QUOTE=Diesel E]The CL personals may be a goldmine but that goldmine sits squarely in the middle of a minefield. The potential drama list is unending, irate hubbies/boyfriends, clingitis , revenge and many many more. If they were just looking for anonymous sex why would they waste their time online when they could get laid in minutes at any corner bar ? I am much more comfortable making it a business transaction than a personal matter, those personal matters have a way of boomeranging and costing more in aggravation if not money.

My main monger motto is simple, crude and to the point, you are NOT paying the lady for sex - you ARE paying them to leave when you are done.

Just my 2 cents ( adjusted for inflation of course )[/QUOTE]

As far for the personals, it's like a singles bar half the women there are cock teasing and that's all.

You might have also mentioned pimps on C/L erotic services :)

Seems there ad's contain to much drama and over stating there service without detailing on the program at hand

They never mention that getting laid is a free service and the donation is for them to leave after LOL

Look around a little and you'll see a lot of the same ads in many locations. Picture collectors, spammers, or whatnot. On a gullible day, I can believe 1 out of 10 of the W4M personals other than "pltonic only" are legit. Over on the erotic side, each provider seems to have something wonderful to offer that none of the others do. Plus there's a strong odor of pork. The kind wearing badges and several females I'd pay even more to leave <b before</b anything took place. And all the drama and flagging wars.

If you're careful and discreet, you can sometimes pick up a little something extra in the therapeutic section.

The MPD has had the decoys out on Wells St from 24th to 35th street and reeled in close to a dozen guys for soliciting over the last couple of days. Be careful.

This is their second go-round on Wells. They're looking mostly for drugs, but taking anything else they find as well. This is all part of the old hands that didn't make chief currying favor with the outsider and jockeying for position. Look for more of the same on the street and on CL too. Be careful out there guys!

WOW, Wells st, that used to be one of the hot spots back in the 80's. I remember one looked like whitney houston(younger version) Awesome skills. then there was the older BSW who I swear lived out there lol, rain or shine, had to be 40's and dressed the classic movie street walker way lol ahhhh, the memories

[QUOTE=ScooterAllCity]The MPD has had the decoys out on Wells St from 24th to 35th street and reeled in close to a dozen guys for soliciting over the last couple of days. Be careful.[/QUOTE]

I am dating myself but I remember the same scenario back in the 70's on Wells St and Wisconsin Ave from 20th to 35th streets. Those were the days!

Wells has been a good track since they made it a two-way a few years back. Mainly from 27th to 34th. Seems like some of the appartments are used to temporarily house people. Saturday I picked one up on 35th south of North. She wants me to go back to her uncle's place. Tells me not to worry he's the only one there and that he's on oxygen tanks and bed ridden. She does'nt live on this side of town and was only there because she's taking care of her uncle. Yeah right! So I tell her no and dropped her off. I can only imagine who else was waiting over there.

Actually Wells had more action when it was a only a one way street.Years ago you could turn off of Wisconsin Ave onto 32nd or 34th streets heading north and travel east to 28th Street on Wells and do "laps" until you found your girl for the evening.The residents in the neighborhood banded together and the city made 32nd and 34th streets one ways southbound between Wells and Wisconsin to prevent men looking for girls in this area.

Ok, if I'm gonna cruise the hood, I get off the strolls. A lot of impoverished women have sold coochie, and it's pretty common in the hood. Cruise some side streets. Get off the main drags. If you see a nice looking woman, pull over and ask for directions. If she's interested, she'll let you know. If she gives you directions, but doesn't ask to get in, tell her she's pretty and tell her you'd like her phone number. Ask if she'd go out to lunch with you some time. If she says "yes", then say How bout now? (Never ask a woman out to dinner. Dinner is 'spensive. Lunch, cheap. McDonald's mebbe.) Anyway, you'll get a number of a person (if the number works, dial it immediately and tell her you're putting it in your phone) you can call and talk dirty to, then hook up later. Some will dun you for money, and some just like to fuck white guys for a Big Mac (or mebbe some Popeye's Chicken.) It's worked for me, and it can work for you too.

[QUOTE=ScooterAllCity]Actually Wells had more action when it was a only a one way street.Years ago you could turn off of Wisconsin Ave onto 32nd or 34th streets heading north and travel east to 28th Street on Wells and do "laps" until you found your girl for the evening.The residents in the neighborhood banded together and the city made 32nd and 34th streets one ways southbound between Wells and Wisconsin to prevent men looking for girls in this area.[/QUOTE]This is bring back good old memories in I lived on 29th & Wisconsin in the middle 1980s Those were the days. With the motel on 30th & Wisconsin you had a lot girls back then. Alot to choose from. Not like it is today.

Mike

[QUOTE=Coochie Eater]Ok, if I'm gonna cruise the hood, I get off the strolls. A lot of impoverished women have sold coochie, and it's pretty common in the hood. Cruise some side streets. Get off the main drags. If you see a nice looking woman, pull over and ask for directions. If she's interested, she'll let you know. If she gives you directions, but doesn't ask to get in, tell her she's pretty and tell her you'd like her phone number. Ask if she'd go out to lunch with you some time. If she says "yes", then say How bout now? (Never ask a woman out to dinner. Dinner is 'spensive. Lunch, cheap. McDonald's mebbe.) Anyway, you'll get a number of a person (if the number works, dial it immediately and tell her you're putting it in your phone) you can call and talk dirty to, then hook up later. Some will dun you for money, and some just like to fuck white guys for a Big Mac (or mebbe some Popeye's Chicken.) It's worked for me, and it can work for you too.[/QUOTE]
Great advice Coochie, I've done it myself
Lvrndazz