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Anyone know or seen this chick? I swear I've either seen or been spammed with other photos of the same girl. I just can't remember where I see the faces anymore. Tineye didn't return any hits. Any Intel is appreciated.

Thanks

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Hope no one on here got in trouble. Guess this is from one of those other sites?

Google voice is the whip for those of us who can't or don't want to deal with the added hassles of trying to acquire and / or stash a separate pick up and thro phone for mongering. Rest assured however that NOT using your personal cell phone or it's number for this hobby can be important. Some just don't give a damn, but I'm of the mindset that it's better to have one more level of anonymity.

How it works for those not in the know:

First google is not your friend. They're collecting hoards of information about you. Supposedly it's not personally identifiable to YOU, but whatever the case be aware of it. Second, never ever ever use your real name for ANY reason on the internet. Period. I have been on the internet since way back when it began as nothing more than little message posting boards and usenets accessed by glorified typwriters. Those were fun days. I have never used my real name or identifying information ever. Nothing good will become of it. The internet is a haven for creepers and a gold mine for big brother. Theses days google has just about become the internet. Increasingly, texts, emails, and just about anything else you do is becoming google searchable. So again, be informed. You can google all of this too by the way.

Google voice is port forwarding of sorts for phone numbers. First you have to have a gmail account. Go make a gmail account using a made up name. After you set this up next check the settings so that nothing comes back to any personal email, phone, etc used by you. Do not use your phone number as a means of recovering a lost password.

Next you have to go to google voice and set it up using this new gmail account. You'll be presented with the option of choosing a number in any area code you like as the number which with you can can send and receive calls, text, emails, etc, using your own cell phone. The trick is that you're real number will never appear to anyone. You can even freely give out your google number for people to call. It will be instantly forwarded to your real phone of your choosing.

This is where the settings in google voice become important. They are a lot of options to configure to keep the snoops out of your phone (the S. O.). If you have a smart phone with the gmail and voice apps installed make sure that you always LOG OUT of your gmail account when you're done. On my BlackBerry the menu option to log out of gmail wasn't exactly the easiest to find. Otherwise every time someone hits the gmail app button on your phone it goes right into your messages without having to enter a password first. Ouch! We can see where this may cause problems. The blackberry also allows you to hid specific apps as well. There may other setting specific to your device that you may have to configure to ensure your privacy from unwanted snoops.

The added beauty of google voice is that you can set it up as a local number. Put that number in your address book under a name (male friend, works, etc). This way if the SO is really a snoop and checks your call logs on line, you have a cover story. While we're at it, always clear your histories, logs, texts, cookies, etc.

Okay this has been a hatchet run down of how it works. If you have trouble setting it up or have a specific question post it here or pm me and I maybe able to help. I'm pretty tech savy but it still took me a bit of time to get things set the way my paranoid little brain like to have things.

Hope that helps somebody.

Yes I'm a fan of Google Voice. You forgot to mention the free voicemail and voice-to-text translation.

Been trying to explain to some of the ladies that they should get a Google Voice account. They can give out the number and point it to their throw away (which will get stolen or lost). That way they can always have a working number (and they can use its voicemail, for free). Of course they would have to be able to use a computer (a stretch for many SWers it seems) and be able to access one from time to time (weekly) when they lose their phone (are libraries like Kryptonite to a SWer?)

[QUOTE=FindingGold; 1297897]Yes I'm a fan of Google Voice. You forgot to mention the free voicemail and voice-to-text translation.

Been trying to explain to some of the ladies that they should get a Google Voice account. They can give out the number and point it to their throw away (which will get stolen or lost). That way they can always have a working number (and they can use its voicemail, for free). Of course they would have to be able to use a computer (a stretch for many SWers it seems) and be able to access one from time to time (weekly) when they lose their phone (are libraries like Kryptonite to a SWer?) [/QUOTE]I actually picked up a SW in a library here in Suburban Chicago!

[QUOTE=FindingGold; 1297897]Yes I'm a fan of Google Voice. You forgot to mention the free voicemail and voice-to-text translation.

Been trying to explain to some of the ladies that they should get a Google Voice account. They can give out the number and point it to their throw away (which will get stolen or lost). That way they can always have a working number (and they can use its voicemail, for free). Of course they would have to be able to use a computer (a stretch for many SWers it seems) and be able to access one from time to time (weekly) when they lose their phone (are libraries like Kryptonite to a SWer?) [/QUOTE]Yea there is a lot more than I mentioned to GV. I do think some of the smarter BP girls do use GV. Would explain the changing numbers and emails (want another # create another email addy) and why so many come up as Southfield exchange numbers. The Southfield exchange is one of the primary ones used by GV depending on what options you select when choosing a number. I don't think you're that anonymous to LE though because you do have to tell GV what number to send the stuff to. Besides, LE will find you if they want you. They're not what I'm concerned with anyways.

There is a learning curve to using it also so that you don't get yourself in trouble. On my stupid BlackBerry I have it set up so the messages go to my sms inbox. To reply properly I have to either be logged into GV and reply via GV or go to my address book and then use the options menu to reply via GV. I made the mistake of just hitting reply and it sent the reply from my normal number. I got a message back saying "who the f is this". LOL, I did manage to field it pretty good with little damage. Wasn't conversing with an extremely intelligent one there. All of this can be a royal PIA if you're one of the idiots like me that still thinks he can text and drive.

With the demise of the two Michigan boards, and the mass migration of entertainers to other sites, I have become rather leary of the loopholes that have opened for "less-than-desirable" ladies. They may have been banned from those sites for behaviors that put hobbyists at risk and may now change their identities and enroll on other established boards. We have also learned just how patient LE can be in monitoring and gathering information, noting that the EV / AES investigation goes back to 2007.

One for instance is PHAT, aka Christina Love aka prettyhotandtempting aka ElectraStar aka Star:

[url]http://prettyhottandtempting.com/[/url]

[url]http://electrastarxoxo.com/star.html[/url]

Is this the same woman that cooperated with LE in order to reduce her sentence? If it is, what records is she keeping, just-in-case?

We can make this a private conversation, PMs are better than making your statement public.

Thanks In Advance,

Be.

[QUOTE=Brass1964; 1321531]We can make this a private conversation, PMs are better than making your statement public.[/QUOTE]Doing THAT doesn't help your fellow monger. Any cvnt that does what she did is a piece of shiat and needs to be outted everywhere. Now she's leo's garbage. She knew the game when she agreed to play.

Just like Stabenow's ole man when he got busted. State pulls him over after they see him leave a Troy hotel and sings like a fucking canary. Piece of shit should have told state to fuck off, they didn't have shiat as far as anything being "committed".

[QUOTE=John Wise; 1325091]Even if he did not say a word, there are a half dozen misdemeanor charges they could have pinned on him and still seized his car. If anyone thinks that they can tell LE "I just stopped by to say Hi to a friend" and that will work, I hate to tell you it won't. If LE wants to charge you with something, believe me they will find something.

But at the end of the day, if your going to be in the Hobby you need to take your own medicine if something goes wrong.[/QUOTE]They can take your car on a hunch. Without charging you with a crime, it's a civil matter.

I got "popped" a few times in this hobby the results are much better saying respectfully officer I have nothing to say and leave it at that.

Never talk to the police and let them use you as a witness against yourself.

Here is a good video to prepare you for LE.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8z7NC5sgik[/url]

Merry Christmas.

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While I have definitely had some fun with SC's, SW's, and SP's, I'm looking to broaden my horizons. Does anyone know where I can find groups of people who are into kInky stuff? I'm not sure about the whole swinging thing as this would obviously be shot down by the boss. I'm not talking about just a dominatrix either. Been there done that, just not my cup of tea being someone's *****.

I'd really appreciate thoughts and ideas from the community we have here. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[QUOTE=Plumber2;1362054]The Schvitz could be cool for you, but you need to bring a date. No singles. I'm guessing if you have a lady at home then getting out on a Saturday night might be tough.[/QUOTE]I've been to the schvitz, but have been curious about Saturdays. Agreed that a female is needed to explore the opportunities.

Hello, comming to Detroit in June for a race weekend. Wonder if anyone would give me any reco's for strip clubs, where the SW's are at maybe a really good massage parlor or which is the best casino. Don't know how much time or money I will have for these extra activies but I am trying to make plans now. Also is there an adult bookstore district, not many left in columbus ohio where I am from.

David

[QUOTE=John Wise;1377645]There are a few adult bookstore in metro Detroit (Google it) but I don't know of any "adult bookstore district"[/QUOTE]Most are on or around 8 mile road on the south side. Some are on or near woodward and 6 mile road, not too sure about the east side.

None of them are like the old days of theater in back. The only one like that is now the new de ja vu on woodward.

Like John said Stick to the Strip clubs or if you have a passport with you head over the border to Windsor. Our nice Canuck friends have legal escorts for legal and they do deliver.

Assured action places near the air port would be bogarts or flight club.

Thanks for the advice guys.

[QUOTE=Oneknot;1362720]I've been to the schvitz, but have been curious about Saturdays. Agreed that a female is needed to explore the opportunities.[/QUOTE]I jsut was checking on some reviews online that say that there are really only 5/6 cpls there that are just a bunch of old farts with skanky SW to get in. My s. O. Has mentioned wantin to try some swinger parties but doesn't want to swap, only be watched and admired from a far (LOL) and it sounds like this place is kind of like that inthat they enforce a "no means no" policy. But if it's too skanky I know it wouldn't be her cup o tea.

[QUOTE=John Wise;1405691]If any of you ACTIVE Detroit Mongers make it down to Toledo, try and look up Jenny. She is a UTR that aims to please, thanks Mw Jrp for the digits.[/QUOTE]I had seen a report on her previously and even her pictures. Liked it so much but never could find her ad. Hope fully one day I would find her ad / digits.

There may not be as many girls in Toledo but some can be very good.

Toledo can be good, depending on what your looking for. I use Detroit for the SC's and I like Toledo for the AMPs. I'm from Toledo so I know it better. The stroll has it moments, three weeks ago I had my greatest find and will likely never be topped. The LEO in T town from what I read isn't nearly as bad. The providers are a bit more sense we don't have detroits population thou.

Its Toledo, it's fits the Hobby nicely.

Toledo can be hit or miss from my experiences. I have found if you are more into value than looks then you probley will not be too disappointed.

[QUOTE=John Wise;1406272]She does not post ads, Jenny is a very cute girl with great skills, if she was in Detroit I would give her "Gem" status. This is why it is so important to be a active poster and build your board credit,"Gems" like Jenny are not on the track 24/7. The only way to see a UTR (under the radar) girl like her is to have someone pass on her info to you.[/QUOTE]I guessed as well since I could not see any of her ads. I agree with you on building credibility and trying towards that. However, after getting bitten twice (one was really a disaster) contacting BP ads scares me. Being in this hobby, I think the risk is an integral part so trying to get over it.

Thanks for the info, JW.

[QUOTE=Levenosky; 1408649]I guessed as well since I could not see any of her ads. I agree with you on building credibility and trying towards that. However, after getting bitten twice (one was really a disaster) contacting BP ads scares me. Being in this hobby, I think the risk is an integral part so trying to get over it.

Thanks for the info, JW.[/QUOTE]Read read read brother. Ask for intel and ask again via PM if you have too. Trash the shiat out of any ***** on here that hoes you over so no one sees her.

I've often thought we should have a side thread where we only post the name of the chick and the good or bad of it and a pic if possible. Links suck and they expire quick also. That way we can scroll down the list of names and check the what the deal is without having to scour through tons of pages and post hoping to find something. It would have to be set up so that each girl had her own thread and that way additional post could be added to the particular girls thread over time.

Something like:

Hover. Chick is an all time gem, delivered as promised. No hassles. Check the pic I posted.

Starfish. FVCK this hoe! Her and her thug ass pimp are a rob. Grabbed the cash and ran out yelling, hope you had a good time cause you just got fvcked!

Check the pics. If you see this hoe navigate safely around all small children and run her ass down at all cost.

No numbers, no locations, No side banter, just a scrollable data base of names (and pics) to consult. I find an ad, get a name, check it here for the yea or nay, and then get the CURRENT contact info from her ad.

Just an idea.

[QUOTE=TwatTeaser; 1408696]I've often thought we should have a side thread where we only post the name of the chick and the good or bad of it and a pic if possible. Links suck and they expire quick also. That way we can scroll down the list of names and check the what the deal is without having to scour through tons of pages and post hoping to find something. It would have to be set up so that each girl had her own thread and that way additional post could be added to the particular girls thread over time.

Just an idea.[/QUOTE]That was really a nice idea from twat teaser.

If it works I'll also give some intel as a contribution.

Thanks & Play safe.

Saw her a few times then she dis appeared. Back in 09 10. I've always wondered what happened to her.

Not sure where this should acutally be posted, but I am looking for the advice of other members on good incall locations on the west side of metro Detroit. I am specifically looking for something in the Canton, Livonia, Novi area (275 from Mich Ave to 12 mile). Overall I am flexible on location, but need a place for day time use (10:00 am to 2:00 pm). That time frame is the cleaning time at most hotels, between check out and check in. Yes, some places will try to accomodate and early check in, but what places are just better suited for hobby use?

I was browsing escorts and stumbled across this. Has anyone been here? Haha

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&q=A[/url]+Sensational+Obsession+Escorts&ie=UTF-8&ei=At-xT4yfN4uW8gS3ro35CA&oi=mode_link&cd=3&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg

I often hear the question asked who pays for porn anymore, because of tube sites there is a lot of free porn on site. This is true but sites that have live girls seem to be real popular. Porn stars are on them, couples who actually fuck are on them, and regular looking girls and guys are on there too. There was a story on Nightline not that long ago about a couple who supports themselves from money made on cam sites. I was on a site today free chat and watched a person drop a hundred bucks on this chick catherine who was abou to do a masturbation show. I ask why when you could have sex with a live women for a hundred bucks. The kicker she only asked for 10 bucks per person to see the show, I guess this person was making it rain. SMDH

Met an 18 year old ebony girl that lives in Harper Woods on craigslist. I've done my due diligence. Her email account matches up with her facebook / ******* pages etc, and she doesn't seem overly ghetto. So I'm going to give her a shot and see what happens.

I haven't been to Harper Woods for 20 years though. Any recommendations on a decent hotel to take her for a few hours of daytime fun? I really don't want to have to worry about coming out and finding my car stolen LOL.

[QUOTE=Spartak; 1466590]Met an 18 year old ebony girl that lives in Harper Woods on craigslist. I've done my due diligence. Her email account matches up with her facebook/* pages etc, and she doesn't seem overly ghetto. So I'm going to give her a shot and see what happens.

I haven't been to Harper Woods for 20 years though. Any recommendations on a decent hotel to take her for a few hours of daytime fun? I really don't want to have to worry about coming out and finding my car stolen LOL.[/QUOTE]Warning Will Robinson! Someone has been posting on CL as an 18 year old ebony chick in Harper Woods for at least 5 years or more that I know of. Post in the CE and W4M section and even responded to my ads when I was doing the non pro game.

Only does in calls which is a big red flag in my book. Personally I don't think it's legit but I also don't know what the real game is. The correspondence I always got seemed real fishy to me. Maybe you know more? I played text tag with one ebony chick over that way for a while and later found out she was stripper looking for side work. All the time she was pretending to be some innocent school girl in need of funds.

My advice is to watch your Azz. Get her address first so you can scope the place and suggest she meet you at a restaurant or someplace first to see if you "click" then go back to her place.

However, on the off chance it does pan out for you, don't forget your friends. LOL

[QUOTE=BenjaminSkully; 1448092]I was browsing escorts and stumbled across this. Has anyone been here? Haha.

[url]https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&q=A[/url]

+Sensational+Obsession+Escorts&ie=UTF-8&ei=At-xT4yfN4uW8gS3ro35CA&oi=mode_link&cd=3&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg[/QUOTE]Yea I met a girl there x50 but had a lot of you can't do thats, I find this true with a lot of x50 girls.

Guy's this is not a good area what ever you do don't go to a house in this area there are two guy's and a hot girl and you will get your ass beat and rob.