The Sugar World

ANy body has opinions? Looking to travel in June, but thinking between these 2 places.

[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;4802511]You'd think this would be one of the best buyers market in SD history, but I'm finding way more drama on SA than pre-pandemic. Either women want online only or they're playing games like never before. 2 1/2 months in you'd figure they'd get the hint there's still no tourism and we're in a near depression, but nope. Oh well, guess they'll figure it out come bill time.[/QUOTE]I see no real difference in the quantity or quality of the girls or their rates. If anything the rates are down. I had a couple of white girls agree to a $ a date, and that's rare.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4810882]I see no real difference in the quantity or quality of the girls or their rates. If anything the rates are down. I had a couple of white girls agree to a $ a date, and that's rare.[/QUOTE]Thanks for that piece of info. Guess it is time to pay again and get back on the site.

[QUOTE=NVHobbyMan;4810905]Thanks for that piece of info. Guess it is time to pay again and get back on the site.[/QUOTE]Most definitely.

But this girl is open to meet for $300. I know not all go that high (and I didn't try and negotiate lower), but she's tall, thin and blonde. I'm focusing on a few others right now, but maybe someone else can see her and let us know how it goes.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2867358f-753d-440a-a904-5cf1cf02d7cd[/URL]

I must look really unattractive to some of these girls, because I get a fair amount of butt ugly fat ones tryin to hmu. These are girls I wouldn't do for free unless maybe it was a bj in the backseat of my car. lol

My current pet peeve is girls that don't even live in vegas and you don't find out till like the 4th message. Gonna see my sorta ATF here in town tomorrow for the last time fore a few months as she is moving to another state. Crazy times we are living in. This has now happened to me twice. My dream girl in L,A, moved to freakin TX because of covid.

And my real GF just got engaged to a rich SD in another state as well. The only good thing is I finally got a job. Now if I can just get another one I can afford to stay in the game. Life is tough all over.

I guess they banned me from either my IP or addr when I tried to use my CC. Anyone know which one? Maybe I should change my CC addr to a virtual address and try it.

A rare (and most likely) very affordable FOB latina. Not my thing but it may be yours.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/f695af13-5b74-4079-870d-393cdc7c6cc8[/URL]

Hey y'all. I'm from Ohio. Going to hit Vegas next month. I was thinking about chatting up a few ****** from SA and making arrangements ahead of time with them for my trip. I'd like to deposit a kid into a couple of different broads. You guys recommend using that site for this purpose?

[QUOTE=OhMyCock;4829864]Hey y'all. I'm from Ohio. Going to hit Vegas next month. I was thinking about chatting up a few ****** from SA and making arrangements ahead of time with them for my trip. I'd like to deposit a kid into a couple of different broads. You guys recommend using that site for this purpose[/QUOTE]Yes, you can find girls on SA willing to go bareback. Can be hit or miss. If you have the time to work the site, you'll find it. If you want sure things, then check out the bareback beauties thread. If you do meet any girls from SA, please give reports on here.

[QUOTE=OhMyCock;4829864]Hey y'all. I'm from Ohio. Going to hit Vegas next month. I was thinking about chatting up a few ****** from SA and making arrangements ahead of time with them for my trip. I'd like to deposit a kid into a couple of different broads. You guys recommend using that site for this purpose?[/QUOTE]Definitely can happen.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9e89d41e-dced-44bc-b3ac-46adb7a6bd28[/URL]

I hooked up with this one a few times. She used to go by the name Lexi or Sexy Lexi. So here is the report on her: She has a severe case of GPS. She will start negotiations very high, often times at $1,000 per hour, so you will need to be prepared to talk her down to reality. She only does outcall. Here on the positives: she is the real deal and I have found her to be safe and not a scammer. She is pleasant and usually is on time. Head game is above average and it's really too bad she only does covered. She seems to prefer cowgirl which she is good at, but seemed to not want to do other positions. Cons: severe GPS. She is attractive but she is not that kind of hot where she can demand ridiculously high fees, especially with a limited menu. She has stated that she does not do GFE and everything is covered. Also, she hides it in her pictures, but I was surprised for a petite girl that she had a bit of a flabby belly. She is a clock watcher and tends to demand more money if you go one minute over, so finish your business timely. Probably the most annoying thing about her was that she constantly checked her phone which was a bit of a mood killer. For her kind of fees, she should be giving you her total and complete attention. Overall not a bad experience, but I don't think I would repeat. There is definitely better bang for your buck. Hope this report helps. Feel free to pm me any time. Thanks and good luck guys.

[QUOTE=PeeWeeMorris;4840956][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9e89d41e-dced-44bc-b3ac-46adb7a6bd28[/URL]

I hooked up with this one a few times. She used to go by the name Lexi or Sexy Lexi. So here is the report on her: She has a severe case of GPS. She will start negotiations very high, often times at $1,000 per hour, so you will need to be prepared to talk her down to reality. She only does outcall. Here on the positives: she is the real deal and I have found her to be safe and not a scammer. She is pleasant and usually is on time. Head game is above average and it's really too bad she only does covered. She seems to prefer cowgirl which she is good at, but seemed to not want to do other positions. Cons: severe GPS. She is attractive but she is not that kind of hot where she can demand ridiculously high fees, especially with a limited menu. She has stated that she does not do GFE and everything is covered. Also, she hides it in her pictures, but I was surprised for a petite girl that she had a bit of a flabby belly. She is a clock watcher and tends to demand more money if you go one minute over, so finish your business timely. Probably the most annoying thing about her was that she constantly checked her phone which was a bit of a mood killer. For her kind of fees, she should be giving you her total and complete attention. Overall not a bad experience, but I don't think I would repeat. There is definitely better bang for your buck. Hope this report helps. Feel free to pm me any time. Thanks and good luck guys.[/QUOTE]I'm curious what amount you talked her down too? Regardless it doesn't sound like she's worth it. Plenty of other girls on that site that give a much better experience at a reasonable price.

[QUOTE=PeeWeeMorris;4840956][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9e89d41e-dced-44bc-b3ac-46adb7a6bd28[/URL]

I hooked up with this one a few times. She used to go by the name Lexi or Sexy Lexi. So here is the report on her: She has a severe case of GPS. She will start negotiations very high, often times at $1,000 per hour, so you will need to be prepared to talk her down to reality. She only does outcall. Here on the positives: she is the real deal and I have found her to be safe and not a scammer. She is pleasant and usually is on time. Head game is above average and it's really too bad she only does covered. She seems to prefer cowgirl which she is good at, but seemed to not want to do other positions. Cons: severe GPS. She is attractive but she is not that kind of hot where she can demand ridiculously high fees, especially with a limited menu. She has stated that she does not do GFE and everything is covered. Also, she hides it in her pictures, but I was surprised for a petite girl that she had a bit of a flabby belly. She is a clock watcher and tends to demand more money if you go one minute over, so finish your business timely. Probably the most annoying thing about her was that she constantly checked her phone which was a bit of a mood killer. For her kind of fees, she should be giving you her total and complete attention. Overall not a bad experience, but I don't think I would repeat. There is definitely better bang for your buck. Hope this report helps. Feel free to pm me any time. Thanks and good luck guys.[/QUOTE]She has flabby arms, junk in the trunk, and yeah you can see a bit of the belly through her dress. For $$$ and a bit more. I guess you can afford it. You can do way better.

[QUOTE=PeeWeeMorris;4840956][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9e89d41e-dced-44bc-b3ac-46adb7a6bd28[/URL]

I hooked up with this one a few times. She used to go by the name Lexi or Sexy Lexi. So here is the report on her: She has a severe case of GPS. She will start negotiations very high, often times at $1,000 per hour, so you will need to be prepared to talk her down to reality. She only does outcall. Here on the positives: she is the real deal and I have found her to be safe and not a scammer. She is pleasant and usually is on time. Head game is above average and it's really too bad she only does covered. She seems to prefer cowgirl which she is good at, but seemed to not want to do other positions. Cons: severe GPS. She is attractive but she is not that kind of hot where she can demand ridiculously high fees, especially with a limited menu. She has stated that she does not do GFE and everything is covered. Also, she hides it in her pictures, but I was surprised for a petite girl that she had a bit of a flabby belly. She is a clock watcher and tends to demand more money if you go one minute over, so finish your business timely. Probably the most annoying thing about her was that she constantly checked her phone which was a bit of a mood killer. For her kind of fees, she should be giving you her total and complete attention. Overall not a bad experience, but I don't think I would repeat. There is definitely better bang for your buck. Hope this report helps. Feel free to pm me any time. Thanks and good luck guys.[/QUOTE]I'm with HG you can do a lot better unless you got her down to 100.

It seems like most of the reports are on the really young ones. Has anyone met up with an older gal, say 40's and up? There are quite a few I've been in touch with but it doesn't seem anyone has any experiences. Still looking for a safe regular thing here and have had minimal luck.

[QUOTE=Lotsoffun201;4842908]It seems like most of the reports are on the really young ones. Has anyone met up with an older gal, say 40's and up? There are quite a few I've been in touch with but it doesn't seem anyone has any experiences. Still looking for a safe regular thing here and have had minimal luck.[/QUOTE]I never found that elusive "safe regular thing" on SA either but hey, maybe it's me. LOL.

It's been a while since I've been active on SA but I met a number of 40+ ladies. Just like the younger ones some are working and using SA to ply their trade, others want to marry a rich guy and then there is everything in between.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4801058]I got 9 new girls phone numbers and haven't pulled the trigger on any of them. Plus I tossed out about 9 more for various reasons. Everyone is either 20 or 21. Not sure why I haven't got any 18 or 19. Kinda weird. Six black and three latina. All pretty decent. Three newbies and the rest with varying degrees of mileage. I still got one regular from last year but lost another one due to someone on this thread that alerted her to this website. Bad move bro. Never do that. Makes me not want to post to this thread. In 10 years on the L. A thread I never had a problem. But of course I am the moderator. And still in all that time I have only deleted a handful of other peoples posts. (and a ton of mine whenever I get paranoid) But I don't have that luxury here. Anyway I am mostly over it. But my posts will be fewer and farther between with little traceable info going forward.[/QUOTE]I'm with you there, who in their right mind would tell any ladies about this site, unless she is an escort who embraces providing BBFS and doesn't hide it, but even then I wouldn't tell her. Reminds me of one SB that I met a couple of years ago who heard of this website from one of the guys here. He was trying to contact her like one contacts an escort and when she asked where he heard all that stuff about her, he sent her the link to this site, what a moron. She then saw posts that one guy she would meet often wrote about her (wasn't really bad tbh, not even graphic) and she guessed who it was, needless to say it didn't go well for that guy, she got really pissed at him, which I won't blame her for that. But thanks to the sharing idiot, that other guy lost a nice relationship he had. She was showing me this site and I was just pretending that I never heard of it, was a bit funny but it seriously made me worried about sharing too much info here, I now make sure I don't reveal the profiles of any of the SBs that I met to the public forums like I used to do, only takes one dumbass to ruin it for everybody I guess.

[QUOTE=Cubico;4857584]I'm with you there, who in their right mind would tell any ladies about this site, unless she is an escort who embraces providing BBFS and doesn't hide it, but even then I wouldn't tell her. Reminds me of one SB that I met a couple of years ago who heard of this website from one of the guys here. He was trying to contact her like one contacts an escort and when she asked where he heard all that stuff about her, he sent her the link to this site, what a moron. She then saw posts that one guy she would meet often wrote about her (wasn't really bad tbh, not even graphic) and she guessed who it was, needless to say it didn't go well for that guy, she got really pissed at him, which I won't blame her for that. But thanks to the sharing idiot, that other guy lost a nice relationship he had. She was showing me this site and I was just pretending that I never heard of it, was a bit funny but it seriously made me worried about sharing too much info here, I now make sure I don't reveal the profiles of any of the SBs that I met to the public forums like I used to do, only takes one dumbass to ruin it for everybody I guess.[/QUOTE]Yep. Some people are just plain stoooopid.

[QUOTE=Cubico;4857584]He was trying to contact her like one contacts an escort and when she asked where he heard all that stuff about her, he sent her the link to this site...[/QUOTE]Truly idiotic and unbelievable that a punter would do such a thing. My best bet is that the girl probably did not want a sb relationship with that guy and he was trying to get on her good side by outing the other guy. I despise guys like that. If a guy cannot close the deal, do not blow it up for others that have.

[QUOTE=Cubico;4857584]I'm with you there, who in their right mind would tell any ladies about this site, unless she is an escort who embraces providing BBFS and doesn't hide it, but even then I wouldn't tell her. Reminds me of one SB that I met a couple of years ago who heard of this website from one of the guys here. He was trying to contact her like one contacts an escort and when she asked where he heard all that stuff about her, he sent her the link to this site, what a moron. She then saw posts that one guy she would meet often wrote about her (wasn't really bad tbh, not even graphic) and she guessed who it was, needless to say it didn't go well for that guy, she got really pissed at him, which I won't blame her for that. But thanks to the sharing idiot, that other guy lost a nice relationship he had. She was showing me this site and I was just pretending that I never heard of it, was a bit funny but it seriously made me worried about sharing too much info here, I now make sure I don't reveal the profiles of any of the SBs that I met to the public forums like I used to do, only takes one dumbass to ruin it for everybody I guess.[/QUOTE]Wonder if that guy was morningstar. He did go MIA all of a sudden LOL.

I guess now that Vegas is partially reopen and a few tourists are back in town, some girls on SA have become emboldened to ask for $1,000/ PPM, LOL. They don't realize we are still in a pandemic and business travel hasn't resumed yet (and even when those things were happening, $1 K PPM was very, very rare). I've had four different girls ask me for $1 k PPM in the past few weeks. Here's one: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/41e6e943-fcf6-49b7-82f7-fbe122a4f8a2[/URL].

I'd link the others but they all blocked me when I told them they weren't being realistic. Oops.

I am noticing more girls willing to meet now (they must've all moved out of their sick grandparents homes, I never knew so many women in their early 20's lived with and cared for their elderly grandparents, LOL), which is good. Beware the GPS though.

[QUOTE=Dbuys;4865662]I guess now that Vegas is partially reopen and a few tourists are back in town, some girls on SA have become emboldened to ask for $1,000/ PPM, LOL. They don't realize we are still in a pandemic and business travel hasn't resumed yet (and even when those things were happening, $1 K PPM was very, very rare). I've had four different girls ask me for $1 k PPM in the past few weeks. Here's one: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/41e6e943-fcf6-49b7-82f7-fbe122a4f8a2[/URL].

I'd link the others but they all blocked me when I told them they weren't being realistic. Oops.

I am noticing more girls willing to meet now (they must've all moved out of their sick grandparents homes, I never knew so many women in their early 20's lived with and cared for their elderly grandparents, LOL), which is good. Beware the GPS though.[/QUOTE]Yet another "my last arrangement was $1 K PPM girl" yikes: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/620cfc02-c61e-4bcf-b9b0-d139e11bdd5c[/URL].

[QUOTE=Dbuys;4867333]Yet another "my last arrangement was $1 K PPM girl" yikes: [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/620cfc02-c61e-4bcf-b9b0-d139e11bdd5c[/URL].[/QUOTE]There's no way anyone is giving her 1 k, she's not even hot imo.

[QUOTE=Onecurious;4867714]There's no way anyone is giving her 1 k, she's not even hot imo.[/QUOTE]I have no problem finding girls in vegas at $. At $.5 or $$ my cup would runneth over. L. A. Is another story though.

Even in the best of economic times, which is clearly not now, none of these girls in my opinion are worth even $500. If I want a high end hooker, I'd pay $500, not some semi pro that I have to spend time trying to get to know.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4868472]I have no problem finding girls in vegas at $. At $.5 or $$ my cup would runneth over. L. A. Is another story though.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;4868835]If I want a high end hooker, I'd pay $500, not some semi pro that I have to spend time trying to get to know.[/QUOTE]Agree with this statement 1000%, have had great experiences with high end girls and absolutely no sb that I have met up with so far comes close.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9e4619d2-0056-4579-89c4-efeb95fd092d[/URL]

$$$$$ and probably worth every penny.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6aabbf10-5697-4132-9bdb-5fcb901ac5d0[/URL]

I doubt I have ever seen a body this fine on a 4'11" girl in my life. She did not even respond to my intro letter. Probably my age.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4871248][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6aabbf10-5697-4132-9bdb-5fcb901ac5d0[/URL]

I doubt I have ever seen a body this fine on a 4'11" girl in my life. She did not even respond to my intro letter. Probably my age.[/QUOTE]I will give it and try and see if I get any response and let you know hollywood. You are absolutely right about her body because it is top tier.

[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;4868835]Even in the best of economic times, which is clearly not now, none of these girls in my opinion are worth even $500. If I want a high end hooker, I'd pay $500, not some semi pro that I have to spend time trying to get to know.[/QUOTE]At VivaMattyVegas: If someone was willing to spend $500/ hr for a high-end Vegas hooker, who would you recommend they go with?

I've only been doing this for a few years now, but so far, I have not found that paying more has necessarily gotten me a better experience (but this might be because I have not gone to a high enough rate). Even on the few occasions when I've spent 4+ or done multi-hour or overnight dates, I've still found the quality of the experience to be hit-or-miss.

So far for me, 5 x BnG sessions with a mojo or LC girl, seems to bring me more total happiness than 1 x $500 session with some supposedly high-end woman who is so gorgeous she is likely to behave as if she shouldn't have to work at all to make sure I am completely happy and fulfilled -- but this once again, just might be because I have not yet gone with a true Tier 1 choice.

Just came back from 18 days in L. A. I did not get one trip to the FC. Saw my only regular girl here in vegas a few hours after I got back. I have a few dates lined up for this week. I am from L. A. But those girls are not what they used to be. So much easier here. Glad to be back at least for the next 2 weeks.

[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;4868835]Even in the best of economic times, which is clearly not now, none of these girls in my opinion are worth even $500. If I want a high end hooker, I'd pay $500, not some semi pro that I have to spend time trying to get to know.[/QUOTE]I normally take the ones that highlight "Luxury Lifestyle" on their Seeking list off my "to-do" list. But that is just me.

I don't have any recommendations, my point was these SB's asking $500-1000 are beyond GPS. I have a 20 year old coming over in a couple of hours. Bi, pierced nipples, wearing no bra & panties, $200 for a few hours. That's bang for my buck.

[QUOTE=AverageJoe702;4874178]At VivaMattyVegas: If someone was willing to spend $500/ hr for a high-end Vegas hooker, who would you recommend they go with?

I've only been doing this for a few years now, but so far, I have not found that paying more has necessarily gotten me a better experience (but this might be because I have not gone to a high enough rate). Even on the few occasions when I've spent 4+ or done multi-hour or overnight dates, I've still found the quality of the experience to be hit-or-miss.

So far for me, 5 x BnG sessions with a mojo or LC girl, seems to bring me more total happiness than 1 x $500 session with some supposedly high-end woman who is so gorgeous she is likely to behave as if she shouldn't have to work at all to make sure I am completely happy and fulfilled -- but this once again, just might be because I have not yet gone with a true Tier 1 choice.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;4875683]I don't have any recommendations, my point was these SB's asking $500-1000 are beyond GPS. I have a 20 year old coming over in a couple of hours. Bi, pierced nipples, wearing no bra & panties, $200 for a few hours. That's bang for my buck.[/QUOTE]And about the most any guy should pay unless you can afford more no sweat. And I imagine frequency has a lot to do with this as well.

Many tinder girls who list their Snapchat handle either want guys to pay for naked pics or dates. A few hot 18 to 21 year olds are asking for $100 to $200 per meet with BBFS and cip being extras around $20 each or just $20 or provide a plan B. It does take some work and not all will meet, but I have found enough that are willing to meet for no more than $200 and I've taken chances and expecting an upsell, but so far so good. I know my luck will run out soon by a seasoned attractive and lazy gps girl.

[QUOTE=MazinKaiser;4876268]Many tinder girls who list their Snapchat handle either want guys to pay for naked pics or dates. A few hot 18 to 21 year olds are asking for $100 to $200 per meet with BBFS and cip being extras around $20 each or just $20 or provide a plan B. It does take some work and not all will meet, but I have found enough that are willing to meet for no more than $200 and I've taken chances and expecting an upsell, but so far so good. I know my luck will run out soon by a seasoned attractive and lazy gps girl.[/QUOTE]Oh shit, I have a 19 year old coming over tomorrow for $$ She's definitely cute, but for that price I can go to CLV. I originally offered $$, but she said that was too low for her. I'm a newbie so any tips I get I'll take.

[QUOTE=ShabbaRanks;4876296]Oh shit, I have a 19 year old coming over tomorrow for $$ She's definitely cute, but for that price I can go to CLV. I originally offered $$, but she said that was too low for her. I'm a newbie so any tips I get I'll take.[/QUOTE]How much? Your prices got butchered by usg. So this will most likely be really good or bad. So if she looks like pic has good attitude go with it if not bail. FYI always try to meet first just in case not sure that really helps haven't needed to bail yet.

I hope the rest of you SD's find a keeper like I did with this new chick. Rocking body, took her anal cherry, she spent 4 hours with me and it only cost me $200 and I'm pretty sure I won't have to spend any money on her for awhile. Treat your SB right and you can have it this way too.

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4875777]And about the most any guy should pay unless you can afford more no sweat. And I imagine frequency has a lot to do with this as well.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;4876778]I hope the rest of you SD's find a keeper like I did with this new chick. Rocking body, took her anal cherry, she spent 4 hours with me and it only cost me $200 and I'm pretty sure I won't have to spend any money on her for awhile. Treat your SB right and you can have it this way too[/QUOTE]Good advice! I have two I hit regularly for $. Both 18,. 100 pound 5 foot tall spinners (what I like), BBFS, DFK, etc. They are out there just have to not be a creep, look hard. And treat them right.