Sugar Baby / Sugar Daddy relationships

[QUOTE=CaddyDaddy663;3756464]I've chatted with her on and off for over a year now, she has had a few profiles all with the name Olivia. I don't know anyone who has seen her successfully, but those fun bags keep me at least 10% interested.[/QUOTE]I have met up with her once and never again. . 2 for an hour and everything was covered and very mechanical and she didn't want to fully undress. Baby damage bad and a real foul odor and I could barely keep interested. One positive she is very pretty but the negatives will keep me away. Plus she doesn't host so you got to get a room. There are definitely better ones out there.

Is there a way to do a search by username on this site?

[QUOTE=Smdkern;3766236]Is there a way to do a search by username on this site?[/QUOTE]Not sure which "site" you meant. Forums? Or SA? So I will answer both.

If you are searching the forums there is the search in upper right and you just type in username.

If you are meaning on SA, at least on the web site there is a box at bottom of search to search profile text where you can add the username and will find them.

[QUOTE=ShelbyJS;3768051]Not sure which "site" you meant. Forums? Or SA? So I will answer both.

If you are searching the forums there is the search in upper right and you just type in username.

If you are meaning on SA, at least on the web site there is a box at bottom of search to search profile text where you can add the username and will find them.[/QUOTE]Sorry it was a bad question and I thought I deleted it. The first few usernames I searched didn't return anything so I mistakenly thought it didn't work when in fact the users were probably just no longer active.

Has anyone met with her? If not, I'm happy to share my findings, but she's been a little too eager and it's causing me to wonder why.

Since most all of us are extremely active in the SA field and others, you would think this thread would be the most active these days and yet. Wait for it:. That's right just silence.

[QUOTE=Ilapp;3841900]Since most all of us are extremely active in the SA field and others, you would think this thread would be the most active these days and yet. Wait for it:. That's right just silence.[/QUOTE]I would be more than happy to share my findings. I have to many at this point! JB.

[QUOTE=JohnBuddy;3843276]I would be more than happy to share my findings. I have to many at this point! JB.[/QUOTE]A bunch a crap is what I've found.

It surprises me too. SA has sort of captured a lot of my attention. Here I am an older man having sex and good conversation with intelligent, cute girls in their 20's. It works for me LOL! Saying that it costs but probably is worth it for the experience and satisfaction you get. I am not going to repeat names because SA is not backpage or an escorting site. Go on there, learn, do the work and be happy.

Numenor.

[QUOTE=Ilapp;3841900]Since most all of us are extremely active in the SA field and others, you would think this thread would be the most active these days and yet. Wait for it:. That's right just silence.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DementedBill;3844606]A bunch a crap is what I've found.[/QUOTE]I have found some crap, I have found some cute pussy that often isn't worth the trouble tho having it isn't all bad, but I have found some real diamonds and had some incredible times off of sa.

Anyone have experience with Indy Lexi?

Rope girl in Richmond is a winner, if you are still looking.

I may be way off base with this, but I don't think I am. IMO, there are fewer targets for Uncle LEO to go after these days, what with the downfall of BP. I think we recently have seen evidence of this with the situation on the south side from a week or so ago. Consider that the personnel and resources are the same but with literally hundreds of ads per day fewer than used to the the case, the resources can be refocused on a smaller amount of targets. This isn't just the case here in Indy, it's the case all over the country (not in other parts of the civilized world, since we are virtually the only westernized government that considers themselves to be in a position of morality police, telling two adults what they can and cannot do with their genitals). BP literally had tens of thousands of ads up each and every day in the US. Consider going into your office and finding your inbox filled with only 1/10 of the normal load day after day after day.

Anyway, I say all this to say that I think SA is maybe (maybe) next on the list of targets for the Puritan Police. So please be very discreet in your reports and naming of names. General conversation and reports are fine I think, but I wouldn't name any names in public or with anyone in correspondence that you haven't known for a long time. BP busts were easy, but SA busts would require a lot more time for a couple of reasons. First, pimps and trafficked girls are more difficult to identify on SA. Perhaps there are fewer of those instances. I certainly hope so. On BP, those stuck out like a sort thumb. . . Same number for multiple girls or google searches coming up with a different girl every two or three months. Secondly, if you have experience with SA, you know that it takes more work to actually work yourself into an intimate agreement and setting. It's not as easy as sending a text and showing up at a shithole motel on Shadeland 30 minutes later. I'm not saying that it couldn't happen because again, same resources, fewer targets. However, the guarantee of a payoff is not as guaranteed as it used to be. Let's not open the door any wider than it already is.

[QUOTE=EarlyCuyler;3850435]I may be way off base with this, but I don't think I am. IMO, there are fewer targets for Uncle LEO to go after these days, what with the downfall of BP. I think we recently have seen evidence of this with the situation on the south side from a week or so ago. Consider that the personnel and resources are the same but with literally hundreds of ads per day fewer than used to the the case, the resources can be refocused on a smaller amount of targets. This isn't just the case here in Indy, it's the case all over the country (not in other parts of the civilized world, since we are virtually the only westernized government that considers themselves to be in a position of morality police, telling two adults what they can and cannot do with their genitals). BP literally had tens of thousands of ads up each and every day in the US. Consider going into your office and finding your inbox filled with only 1/10 of the normal load day after day after day.

[highlight]Anyway, I say all this to say that I think SA is maybe (maybe) next on the list of targets for the Puritan Police. So please be very discreet in your reports and naming of names[/highlight]. General conversation and reports are fine I think, but I wouldn't name any names in public or with anyone in correspondence that you haven't known for a long time. BP busts were easy, but SA busts would require a lot more time for a couple of reasons. First, pimps and trafficked girls are more difficult to identify on SA. Perhaps there are fewer of those instances. I certainly hope so. On BP, those stuck out like a sort thumb. . . Same number for multiple girls or google searches coming up with a different girl every two or three months. Secondly, if you have experience with SA, you know that it takes more work to actually work yourself into an intimate agreement and setting. It's not as easy as sending a text and showing up at a shithole motel on Shadeland 30 minutes later. I'm not saying that it couldn't happen because again, same resources, fewer targets. However, the guarantee of a payoff is not as guaranteed as it used to be. Let's not open the door any wider than it already is.[/QUOTE]My highlight for emphasis.

Good post and advice. I absolutely think they are gearing up for the SB sites. It might actually be a good thing, because someone that has standing is going to need to take up the fight against FOSTA.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;3852115]My highlight for emphasis.

Good post and advice. I absolutely think they are gearing up for the SB sites. It might actually be a good thing, because someone that has standing is going to need to take up the fight against FOSTA.[/QUOTE]There is no doubt SA itself fears what could happen to it under FOSTA. Look at the video on the site, and all the posts in response. I recommend people reporting escorts, as the site is very clear that they violate its ToS. This won't hurt me at all, I am not interested in escorts but real SBs. It will thin out the ranks and make it easier to find what I am looking for. There may be replacements for BP and CL, but right now, no place offers what SA does. I hope that escorting / mongering doesn't ruin it for those of us who are serious about this post-modern relationship, the arrangement. They have existed for millenia, but SA just facilitated the parties finding each other.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3852173]There is no doubt SA itself fears what could happen to it under FOSTA. Look at the video on the site, and all the posts in response. I recommend people reporting escorts, as the site is very clear that they violate its ToS. This won't hurt me at all, I am not interested in escorts but real SBs. It will thin out the ranks and make it easier to find what I am looking for. There may be replacements for BP and CL, but right now, no place offers what SA does. I hope that escorting / mongering doesn't ruin it for those of us who are serious about this post-modern relationship, the arrangement. They have existed for millenia, but SA just facilitated the parties finding each other.[/QUOTE]Is it just me or have they removed the ability to search by typing in words again? Or was that only when you had paid membership active? Not that the keyword search was very useful unless you were searching for a specific username.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3852173]There is no doubt SA itself fears what could happen to it under FOSTA. Look at the video on the site, and all the posts in response. I recommend people reporting escorts, as the site is very clear that they violate its ToS. This won't hurt me at all, I am not interested in escorts but real SBs. It will thin out the ranks and make it easier to find what I am looking for. There may be replacements for BP and CL, but right now, no place offers what SA does. I hope that escorting / mongering doesn't ruin it for those of us who are serious about this post-modern relationship, the arrangement. They have existed for millenia, but SA just facilitated the parties finding each other.[/QUOTE]I'm somewhat new to the SB scene, SA wasn't really around before my hiatus. So please explain what the difference is between a SB and an escort or for that matter a mistress. All of them are what our society would call prostitutes, because all of them except money for sexual favors. To me there is no difference from a streetwalker, escort, SB or mistress it's just how they advertise for clients, the level and type of service they provide. From what I have heard from other friends and read about there are plenty of SB's that see multiple SD's in a week and fuck for $ whenever they are available.

Seems to me your arrangement with a SB is just what I would call spending time with a higher class escort who doesn't watch clock or an escort that I have a developed, over time, a special relationship with.

Silverbikini007.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/257739c0-8a45-42dd-ab07-34509adecfed[/URL]

And.

Stevieann71.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/89129c41-c159-4c41-8ce4-29ee920bfe4d[/URL]

As always I have some travel info!

Silverbikini007.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/257739c0-8a45-42dd-ab07-34509adecfed[/URL]

And.

Stevieann71.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/89129c41-c159-4c41-8ce4-29ee920bfe4d[/URL]

As always I have some travel info!

[QUOTE=GlueCzar;3855510]

As always I have some travel info![/QUOTE]And I've benefited from that travel info!! For seniors, I have info as well. For the most part, it's limited to Dallas / Fort Worth (there's an amazingly gorgeous, mixed race, ex NFL cheerleader, who is a VERY dirty girl if anyone is traveling there) and Palm Beach and Broward counties in FL. I tend towards older, more mature ladies, but the blonde hair and big fake tits look supersedes about everything else. When I can find the two in one package, I should just walk in the door, throw my wallet at them, and leave. I'm THAT smitten.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;3852173]There is no doubt SA itself fears what could happen to it under FOSTA. Look at the video on the site, and all the posts in response. I recommend people reporting escorts, as the site is very clear that they violate its ToS. This won't hurt me at all, I am not interested in escorts but real SBs. It will thin out the ranks and make it easier to find what I am looking for. There may be replacements for BP and CL, but right now, no place offers what SA does. I hope that escorting / mongering doesn't ruin it for those of us who are serious about this post-modern relationship, the arrangement. They have existed for millenia, but SA just facilitated the parties finding each other.[/QUOTE]It HAS happened for millenia, mistresses, sugar babies, etc. I love the arrangement actually. It's EXACTLY what I want at this stage in the game of life. I just recently put my first on on regular retainer. We get together about once a week, do something fun like a local dive, concert, dinner, etc, then go back to my place and destroy one another's genitalia until the wee hours of the morning. Neither of us needs to call or text the other the next day, no one is worried about anyone working late, or schtuping other people, or paying bills together, or any of the other entanglements of a full time relationship. If I don't hear from her for a few days or a week, so be it and vice versa. So for me at least, it's all the benefits of a SO with none of the responsibilities (well, there is that monthly paypal transaction). Since we negotiated our relationship on the front end, boundaries and expectations were fully discussed and agreed upon. At some point I'm sure that someone will want more, or someone will want less, and we know that going in. When that happens, there will be no surprises. Until then though, I have an intelligent, well read woman on my arm who can carry the conversation when I need / want that, and a beautiful 6' in heels brunette who begs me to ravish her when I need / want that. If it ain't broke. . . .

[QUOTE=PowerTool;3855159]I'm somewhat new to the SB scene, SA wasn't really around before my hiatus. So please explain what the difference is between a SB and an escort or for that matter a mistress. All of them are what our society would call prostitutes, because all of them except money for sexual favors. To me there is no difference from a streetwalker, escort, SB or mistress it's just how they advertise for clients, the level and type of service they provide. From what I have heard from other friends and read about there are plenty of SB's that see multiple SD's in a week and fuck for $ whenever they are available.

Seems to me your arrangement with a SB is just what I would call spending time with a higher class escort who doesn't watch clock or an escort that I have a developed, over time, a special relationship with.[/QUOTE]What you said is true, however True SB will have sex without condom, and others (almost all) will require a condom, that is the big different to me.

[QUOTE=PowerTool;3855159]I'm somewhat new to the SB scene, SA wasn't really around before my hiatus. So please explain what the difference is between a SB and an escort or for that matter a mistress. All of them are what our society would call prostitutes, because all of them except money for sexual favors. To me there is no difference from a streetwalker, escort, SB or mistress it's just how they advertise for clients, the level and type of service they provide. From what I have heard from other friends and read about there are plenty of SB's that see multiple SD's in a week and fuck for $ whenever they are available.

Seems to me your arrangement with a SB is just what I would call spending time with a higher class escort who doesn't watch clock or an escort that I have a developed, over time, a special relationship with.[/QUOTE]There's many similarities but also a ton of differences. And everything in between. The menu is vast on there, from addicts / street walkers with a cell phone; Pro's providers and strippers, sugar babies that see a few guys to the ones that are exclusive to Mary Poppins who wants money to grace you with her presence.

I can't stand clock watchers so I tend to stick to the sugar babies.

I know a brunette sugar baby who is interested in doing a back to back with two guys. She's safe and reasonable. If interested PM me.

[QUOTE=WreckItRight;3864262]I know a brunette sugar baby who is interested in doing a back to back with two guys. She's safe and reasonable. If interested PM me.[/QUOTE]If you Pm me and interest is there include your email or some form of contact and Ill send pics.

Guys. From what I am seeing there is a lot available out there. That agree to my arrangement terms. Don't pay any attention to what they list. Of all the goody two shoes I have messaged, only one has came back with a blunt 'not interested'. And I have messaged a lot. For awhile I avoided the findom girls but I think it doesn't take long for them to realize what they want is going to be different than what they get. Don't ask them what they are after, make your proposal after feeling them out for being up to your taste- and do it tactfully. Some of those girls use the word platonic incredibly loosely. If they aren't interested they won't reply. But many do after a few days or weeks-my guess is because their visions of dollar signs dancing in their head slowly fades away. LOL!

Og.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9158ceb2-6ef2-4c36-884a-d4c8093ddaf1[/URL]

'SmokeGoodLoud, her profile says she's 28, turns out she's 18. She traveled here for a fair rate, she was a good time, says she's willing to travel here often.

[QUOTE=EarlyCuyler;3856628]It HAS happened for millenia, mistresses, sugar babies, etc. I love the arrangement actually. It's EXACTLY what I want at this stage in the game of life. I just recently put my first on on regular retainer. We get together about once a week, do something fun like a local dive, concert, dinner, etc, then go back to my place and destroy one another's genitalia until the wee hours of the morning. Neither of us needs to call or text the other the next day, no one is worried about anyone working late, or schtuping other people, or paying bills together, or any of the other entanglements of a full time relationship. If I don't hear from her for a few days or a week, so be it and vice versa. So for me at least, it's all the benefits of a SO with none of the responsibilities (well, there is that monthly paypal transaction). Since we negotiated our relationship on the front end, boundaries and expectations were fully discussed and agreed upon. At some point I'm sure that someone will want more, or someone will want less, and we know that going in. When that happens, there will be no surprises. Until then though, I have an intelligent, well read woman on my arm who can carry the conversation when I need / want that, and a beautiful 6' in heels brunette who begs me to ravish her when I need / want that. If it ain't broke. . . .[/QUOTE]Good post EC, I very much like the SB arrangement. I do love variety but there is something to be said about being comfortable with someone your having sex with. I have had a few SB, the one I have now has been with me for 18 months and I couldn't ask for a better arrangement.

P.S., I don't pay them to stay, I pay them to leave.

BG,

I like what I'm reading in here, but wanted to get a quick idea of what people are usually spending on this side of the hobby. SA is $90 a month, unless you buy a few months at a time, and then can anyone share their average SB maintenance outlay? I'm not really hobbying all that much anymore, but I like the idea of a more casual encounter, which these SBs seem to be open to providing, but it feels like I may end up spending more than I would if I just went straight escort.

[QUOTE=Dracos;3883814]I like what I'm reading in here, but wanted to get a quick idea of what people are usually spending on this side of the hobby. SA is $90 a month, unless you buy a few months at a time, and then can anyone share their average SB maintenance outlay? I'm not really hobbying all that much anymore, but I like the idea of a more casual encounter, which these SBs seem to be open to providing, but it feels like I may end up spending more than I would if I just went straight escort.[/QUOTE]You'll be spending a lot more time for sure. It's like a part time job.

Yep 90 a month. I've been on and off 3 times for premium membership. I've had 5 separate babies. I've met at least 3 others in meets. For me it has been a totally different experience than going to a provider. I've had generally terrific sex and after first time usually bare. I've gone from 20 year olds upto 40 year olds. Different experience each time. I'm older and for a 60 year old to be fucking a 20 year old- yep it's probably worth it. Saying that it isn't cheap. I try and stick at 250 max. I've done 200 to 300 (300 only first time). There is no time limit here. It's much more like a date. Often we've had lunch and usually great conversation. I look for intelligence and broke college girls are a good bet. Several times girls have had me popping twice and have made an effort to do it. I've spent probably 2 grand on the experience so far over several months It's addictive and you get better at it with experience. Looking is part of the fun. Totally your choice. Numenor.

[QUOTE=ZakkWylde;3885192]You'll be spending a lot more time for sure. It's like a part time job.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PrinceNumenor;3894454]Yep 90 a month. I've been on and off 3 times for premium membership. I've had 5 separate babies. I've met at least 3 others in meets. For me it has been a totally different experience than going to a provider. I've had generally terrific sex and after first time usually bare. I've gone from 20 year olds upto 40 year olds. Different experience each time. I'm older and for a 60 year old to be fucking a 20 year old- yep it's probably worth it. Saying that it isn't cheap. I try and stick at 250 max. I've done 200 to 300 (300 only first time). There is no time limit here. It's much more like a date. Often we've had lunch and usually great conversation. I look for intelligence and broke college girls are a good bet. Several times girls have had me popping twice and have made an effort to do it. I've spent probably 2 grand on the experience so far over several months It's addictive and you get better at it with experience. Looking is part of the fun. Totally your choice. Numenor.[/QUOTE]Every time I pay for a month I add 5-10 to the book. Hard ceiling at 300, and only then for first time. Only repeat if will go much lower (100-150). Target for first time is 200 though. Most want consistency, so once you have a rotation you can handle, you only have to pay to get on every few months to replace those who moved on. Some take a lot of work, some don't if you catch them at the right time.

I've made contact with 3 ladies. In talking with them it feels more like talking to a BP lady rather than an SB. Have any of you had experience with them?

Venus22 yrsyoung-6537.

Thicksugarbaby31-1490.

Jace1412-9102.

Any help is appreciated.

Dave.

[QUOTE=DaveRue;3900883]I've made contact with 3 ladies. In talking with them it feels more like talking to a BP lady rather than an SB. Have any of you had experience with them?

Venus22 yrsyoung-6537.

Thicksugarbaby31-1490.

Jace1412-9102.

Any help is appreciated.

Dave.[/QUOTE]Hello!

I had a meet and greet with Jace and then met with her once so far. She is a nice young lady (matches her pics). I don't have any real complaints but unsure if I will see her again. She wasn't very enthusiastic in our meeting. She is very much about the money. I've just had better SA interactions (where it actually seems like a date). She very much seems like a BP girl. She is already getting dressed once you pop. YMMV of course. I. Unfamiliar with the other two. PM me the ages of the other two and I'll look them up.

Good luck!

Have tried SA a bit with all the turmoil of late in regular hobbying. Met the young lady who posts as 'Nerdyndirty' on the sister site on SA, where she started last month, and ultimately had a great all around time (except for an occasional vague sense of cradle-robbing on my part) with her-did some 'Sugar' type public activity with her that was nice (intelligent girl) and the physical things were most enjoyable as well. A few other meets have had modest success but nothing to be too excited about. Also, a couple that turned sour:

'Kit1734'-this is the lady introduced over on the escort thread by another hobbyist nearly two weeks ago who got some good initial commentary but then a few recent questionable comments. Had an ultimately poor experience and I believe she has (non-substance) issues that have been exacerbated by life circumstances of late. Rather unfortunate as she is cute and seemed to have the raw material to potentially be a good SB type.

'Kandy910'-had just a meet and greet (dining, shopping{and ultimately just purchased for myself}, chatting) a week or so ago. Had a good time, she seemed truly just plain nice, cute in a quiet girl next door sense, has a decent but modest paying job, just wanted a pretty reasonable slice of cash to help with bills (including some student and from a failed marriage) and to experience some decent entertainment semiregularly. We both agreed we had a good time and would like to visit again. So, I text her Thursday evening about meeting on Sunday, she says that would be good and we agree on a general time. Then the nice completely disappears. She goes full ghost, no reply at all to multiple confirm texts Saturday and Sunday am, no SA message (saw she was on site mid Saturday afternoon). So, not so nice but rude and inconsiderate, and it did really surprise me that she would do that (and I do personally put an emphasis on communication and courtesy, if she'd simply communicated that she didn't want to / couldn't meet again that would've been fine) given how she came across in the m&g.

I didn't realize that SA changed the search function. Here are the kinks to the 3 I had in question.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/9203dec7-0e38-488a-8206-a8074860a3e8[/URL]

Venus22 yrsyoung.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b4f4a35d-07bd-485e-97bc-ee54a361e842[/URL]

Thicksugarbaby31.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a79f343b-fdad-454b-7245-f3b022f4e5bd[/URL]

Jace1412.

Thanks.

[QUOTE=DaveRue;3900883]I've made contact with 3 ladies. In talking with them it feels more like talking to a BP lady rather than an SB. Have any of you had experience with them?

Venus22 yrsyoung-6537.

Thicksugarbaby31-1490.

Jace1412-9102.

Any help is appreciated.

Dave.[/QUOTE]Thicksugarbaby31, We have been trying to meet twice for the past week. Both times something happened on her end that prevented us from hanging out. She used dumb excuses for both times. She feels like a waste of time. Maybe you'll have better luck.

Interesting that people on this site only talk about SA instead of SecretBenefits which is the one advertising and linked on this site.

I'm using SB and met a very attractive woman, yes not an 18 yr old. Had dinner last night and she suggested next meet we have desert before going to dinner. Sent me some ads for lingerie said she would be interested in my selection. Hell I bought all three on AMAZON so Monday will have a fashion show.

Ill post the results.

Hope to take some pics, I am a real photographer and have done shoots with local providers in the past.

Happy hunting.

Be interesting to compare. They operate a different way. I have a profile and get responses but have not bought any credits yet. Not sure if worth it.

I have a profile on SB but have not bought any credits yet. Be interesting to compare.

I have a profile on SB but have not bought any credits yet. Be interesting to compare.

[QUOTE=Videoxxman;3903922]Interesting that people on this site only talk about SA instead of SecretBenefits which is the one advertising and linked on this site.

I'm using SB and met a very attractive woman, yes not an 18 yr old. Had dinner last night and she suggested next meet we have desert before going to dinner. Sent me some ads for lingerie said she would be interested in my selection. Hell I bought all three on AMAZON so Monday will have a fashion show.

Ill post the results.

Hope to take some pics, I am a real photographer and have done shoots with local providers in the past.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE].

Anyone ever meet this gal? I've had lots of texting, pics, even a couple videos. But very difficult to get her to commit to a meet. The good conversation keeps me intrigued, but I'm wondering if it's worth the continued effort.

[QUOTE=Videoxxman;3903922]Interesting that people on this site only talk about SA instead of SecretBenefits which is the one advertising and linked on this site.

I'm using SB and met a very attractive woman, yes not an 18 yr old. Had dinner last night and she suggested next meet we have desert before going to dinner. Sent me some ads for lingerie said she would be interested in my selection. Hell I bought all three on AMAZON so Monday will have a fashion show.

Ill post the results.

Hope to take some pics, I am a real photographer and have done shoots with local providers in the past.

Happy hunting.[/QUOTE]With the changes they have made to SA (well its just S now and no A), I think I will give SB a spin again I got some credits a few years ago but no real bites on there. The fact that it was 10 credits ($10) to start corresponding to each person was a bit much for my tastes for responses I got. Wasn't quite sure if most of them were just bait to get you to use up the credits and buy more.