EMP (European Massage Parlor) Reports

[QUOTE=Lebruno;2460278]Is the pricing for extras at EMPs comparable with AMPs? The last time I went to a EMP and asked about FS I was told to cough up 200 over the house fee for massage.

And if you have tried both AMPs and EMPs. What's better at EMPs?[/QUOTE]It depends on where you go and if there comfortable with you. I have gotten a CBJ at tats for 60 dollar tip. I have also gotten FS at tats for a 60 dollar tip, it just depends on the mood of your masseuse. This maybe a suprise but price wise I have saved more at EMP's then AMP's.

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2477059]Maria's is still right down the way from the old Lockwood office. They were one of my favorites about 10 years ago and they're still in operation.

[URL]www.mariasmassagetherapy.com[/URL][/QUOTE]I may try this place out too. Not really looking for a H. E. Just an awesome massage. Although a H. E. Would be nice.

[QUOTE=ElginMonk;2477304]It depends on where you go and if there comfortable with you. I have gotten a CBJ at tats for 60 dollar tip. I have also gotten FS at tats for a 60 dollar tip, it just depends on the mood of your masseuse. This maybe a suprise but price wise I have saved more at EMP's then AMP's.[/QUOTE]Thats an interesting observation. Based on my limited (but expensive) EMP experience I was thinking that AMPs offer a better deal.

I'm partial to European women, so my observations are biased. I have noticed that the FS AMP's rarely offer a technically proficient massage. The EMP's, while usually devoid of FS options, will at least deliver extras with a spa quality session.

I look at it this way... After the gym, I could have an Asian give me a few moments of feather touch and rushed FS for 160, or, receive a therapeutic deep tissue from a Euro and still leave happy for 120. To me the EMP is a double-win.


[QUOTE=Lebruno;2478438]Thats an interesting observation. Based on my limited (but expensive) EMP experience I was thinking that AMPs offer a better deal.[/QUOTE]

So you agree that EMPs are usually devoid of FS options. I was wondering if my experience was incorrect. That said my massage experience also has been below par at EMPs. Perhaps I've been going to the 'wrong' EMPs or to the 'wrong' MTs. Pl. PM me of any worthy recommendations.

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2479474]I'm partial to European women, so my observations are biased. I have noticed that the FS AMP's rarely offer a technically proficient massage. The EMP's, while usually devoid of FS options, will at least deliver extras with a spa quality session. I look at it this way... After the gym, I could have an Asian give me a few moments of feather touch and rushed FS for 160, or, receive a therapeutic deep tissue from a Euro and still leave happy for 120. To me the EMP is a double-win.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2479474]I'm partial to European women, so my observations are biased. I have noticed that the FS AMP's rarely offer a technically proficient massage. The EMP's, while usually devoid of FS options, will at least deliver extras with a spa quality session.

I look at it this way... After the gym, I could have an Asian give me a few moments of feather touch and rushed FS for 160, or, receive a therapeutic deep tissue from a Euro and still leave happy for 120. To me the EMP is a double-win.[/QUOTE]Totally agree. The older I get the more important the quality of the massage is to me. While the feather touch is awesome too, the medium pressure is what helps me the most in the long run. Definitely wish there were more cute choices available that incorporated both styles.

Not sure how to follow up on this so seeking advice. Went to Maria's in Skokie and drew young, hot Ukranian blonde. Wasn't sure if I'd get extras as she had me wrapped pretty well. After flip, I kept pulling the wrap aside and did some light caressing OTC of her ass. Not getting resistance, I went under her top. Still no resistance. Eventually removed wrap entirely and asked if she could take care of me. She said sorry she can't do that and I felt like a total jerk for feeling her up. I asked if I could self service and she said I could stay as long as I wanted but she left the room. Tipped her. 40 with hopes that a future visit would yield more help but I also don't want to be a creeper if I made her uncomfortable. I'd love to see her again to see if more is available because her body was amazing. Do I just let this go? Go again but don't be as physical? Go again and just leave cash out? Any tips would be appreciated. I've never gotten so much mileage without any sort of release. Pretty much the opposite of my AMP HE experiences.

[QUOTE=Jefelici;2483956]Not sure how to follow up on this so seeking advice. Went to Maria's in Skokie and drew young, hot Ukranian blonde. Wasn't sure if I'd get extras as she had me wrapped pretty well. After flip, I kept pulling the wrap aside and did some light caressing OTC of her ass. Not getting resistance, I went under her top. Still no resistance. Eventually removed wrap entirely and asked if she could take care of me. She said sorry she can't do that and I felt like a total jerk for feeling her up. I asked if I could self service and she said I could stay as long as I wanted but she left the room. Tipped her. 40 with hopes that a future visit would yield more help but I also don't want to be a creeper if I made her uncomfortable. I'd love to see her again to see if more is available because her body was amazing. Do I just let this go? Go again but don't be as physical? Go again and just leave cash out? Any tips would be appreciated. I've never gotten so much mileage without any sort of release. Pretty much the opposite of my AMP HE experiences.[/QUOTE]You sure she was Ukrainian? I love Ukrainians. True Slavs, not generic Slavs like Polish.

What was her name? Did she have longer, straight blond hair, with nice slender curves (but only an average face)? Your tale reminds me of my experience with Mary at CT. I've mentioned her before. Like you, I felt burned by the confusing nature of allowing roaming without the finish. The experience really left me feeling like a heal. Irina at MM also pulled the same stunt on me. The only thing that helped me save face, was Irina's sudden 360, when she started to rub high into my thighs. Then she began quietly moaning with approval. The farce was obviously over at that point. Mary just stood there like a cold fish. I asked her what other male customers say to her when this situation happens. She matter of factly replied, "They don't like it". Wouldn't it be easier to say immediately, "this session is over with?

[QUOTE=Jefelici;2483956]Not sure how to follow up on this so seeking advice. Went to Maria's in Skokie and drew young, hot Ukranian blonde. Wasn't sure if I'd get extras as she had me wrapped pretty well. After flip, I kept pulling the wrap aside and did some light caressing OTC of her ass. Not getting resistance, I went under her top. Still no resistance. Eventually removed wrap entirely and asked if she could take care of me. She said sorry she can't do that and I felt like a total jerk for feeling her up. I asked if I could self service and she said I could stay as long as I wanted but she left the room. Tipped her. 40 with hopes that a future visit would yield more help but I also don't want to be a creeper if I made her uncomfortable. I'd love to see her again to see if more is available because her body was amazing. Do I just let this go? Go again but don't be as physical? Go again and just leave cash out? Any tips would be appreciated. I've never gotten so much mileage without any sort of release. Pretty much the opposite of my AMP HE experiences.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2484647]What was her name? Did she have longer, straight blond hair, with nice slender curves (but only an average face)? Your tale reminds me of my experience with Mary at CT. I've mentioned her before. Like you, I felt burned by the confusing nature of allowing roaming without the finish. The experience really left me feeling like a heal. Irina at MM also pulled the same stunt on me. The only thing that helped me save face, was Irina's sudden 360, when she started to rub high into my thighs. Then she began quietly moaning with approval. The farce was obviously over at that point. Mary just stood there like a cold fish. I asked her what other male customers say to her when this situation happens. She matter of factly replied, "They don't like it". Wouldn't it be easier to say immediately, "this session is over with?[/QUOTE]Sent you a PM, Owl. Would appreciate any advice. And in response to earlier post, can confirm 100% she's from Kiev.

Same here on experience with Mary. You should probably move on. If you don't click right away the electricity is turned off and probably would require all of com ed the get the juices started with this one. YMMV is all the same with this gal.

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2484647]What was her name? Did she have longer, straight blond hair, with nice slender curves (but only an average face)? Your tale reminds me of my experience with Mary at CT. I've mentioned her before. Like you, I felt burned by the confusing nature of allowing roaming without the finish. The experience really left me feeling like a heal. Irina at MM also pulled the same stunt on me. The only thing that helped me save face, was Irina's sudden 360, when she started to rub high into my thighs. Then she began quietly moaning with approval. The farce was obviously over at that point. Mary just stood there like a cold fish. I asked her what other male customers say to her when this situation happens. She matter of factly replied, "They don't like it". Wouldn't it be easier to say immediately, "this session is over with?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Silvio;2485415]Same here on experience with Mary. You should probably move on. If you don't click right away the electricity is turned off and probably would require all of com ed the get the juices started with this one. YMMV is all the same with this gal.[/QUOTE]Thanks, Silvio. Sadly it's always the fish that got away that sticks in your mind.

Your agonizing over this situation suggests you're new at this. Let me help you.

1. Consider yourself lucky for getting to feel her up during the massage.

2. Don't waste your time seeing her again. You removing the towel and feeling her up was a clear sign you weren't LEO. BTW, you did the right thing. Textbook interaction with new provider. If she still didn't offer HE then she doesn't offer HE. Nothing is going to change next time.

My general policy is that I will not ever give a tip to a masseuse unless I get a HE. If she gets enough clients who see her only once and don't leave a tip she'll realize soon enough that paying her rent is more important than this brickhead policy. The more guys who tip $40 for nothing, the longer she'll remain in business with this policy in effect.

[QUOTE=Jefelici;2483956]Not sure how to follow up on this so seeking advice. Went to Maria's in Skokie and drew young, hot Ukranian blonde. Wasn't sure if I'd get extras as she had me wrapped pretty well. After flip, I kept pulling the wrap aside and did some light caressing OTC of her ass. Not getting resistance, I went under her top. Still no resistance. Eventually removed wrap entirely and asked if she could take care of me. She said sorry she can't do that and I felt like a total jerk for feeling her up. I asked if I could self service and she said I could stay as long as I wanted but she left the room. Tipped her. 40 with hopes that a future visit would yield more help but I also don't want to be a creeper if I made her uncomfortable. I'd love to see her again to see if more is available because her body was amazing. Do I just let this go? Go again but don't be as physical? Go again and just leave cash out? Any tips would be appreciated. I've never gotten so much mileage without any sort of release. Pretty much the opposite of my AMP HE experiences.[/QUOTE]

I'm hitting up CT for a session. Apparently, they have a Veronica on staff. Does anyone know if this is the same woman who runs 7th Heaven in Deerfield? I could be wrong, but I possibly had a session with her at Tat's in the past.

Both locations are barely 10 minutes apart, so it seems plausible.

[QUOTE=WiNiteOwl;2489540]I'm hitting up CT for a session. Apparently, they have a Veronica on staff. Does anyone know if this is the same woman who runs 7th Heaven in Deerfield? I could be wrong, but I possibly had a session with her at Tat's in the past.

Both locations are barely 10 minutes apart, so it seems plausible.[/QUOTE]I doubt it. Veronica was the owner at 7th Heaven, not just an employee. If she was working again- it would be there.