Non Pro's

[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;7492430][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/48429207-0202-434f-a5d0-5eb78149GPS.[/URL]

Wanted 600 for a meet. Good lord what are theses women thinking. All the way up in Bellingham too.[/QUOTE]Insane.

I'm counting myself lucky. Been nearly exclusive the past month or so with a big titted SB who loves to fuck, begs me to fill her up, stays at least 2 hrs for msog, and is reasonable at $$ 5. The fact that I broke my rule and had her over to my incall was just because I was seeing her so much I wanted to save on the hotel rooms.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/305f2e6d-c42b-49c4-85fc-fe281d945376?_cf_ref=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cudXNhc2V4Z3VpZGUubmwv[/URL]

Wants 600 for covered. Won't budge. Just gives a bad vibe overall.

[QUOTE=BuckNaked123;7384147]Anyone see this one? She says 500 and can't host. She talks like she is full of passion but also seems full of herself.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c2449d81-af16-4481-ac01-9dd846eb2eb9[/URL][/QUOTE]She's got some kinks and is looking to be passed around. Pretty open to ideas.

This profile seems to be too good to be true like the before covid times. If anyone has met her IRL and can vouch she is real, please DM. I have several early and mid-20 college girls I can trade if you have contact info and details you can share.

I have no idea if this is real. I am asking if anyone knows because you’ve met this person. If you have, I’ll trade contact info if you have details.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ebc8aac-01e0-41e2-aece-df5b740221d0[/URL]

[QUOTE=Merovingian2;7497159]This profile seems to be too good to be true like the before covid times. If anyone has met her IRL and can vouch she is real, please DM. I have several early and mid-20 college girls I can trade if you have contact info and details you can share.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ebc8aac-01e0-41e2-aece-df5b740221d0[/URL][/QUOTE]Either her profile is gone already or I am blocked. If their profile is still there then I am blocked and it most likely means they were a scammer or completely bad news. I don't block people on there and the only reason I get blocked is because I caught their scam and called them on it.

[QUOTE=NiceGuyCip;7497184]Either her profile is gone already or I am blocked. If their profile is still there then I am blocked and it most likely means they were a scammer or completely bad news. I don't block people on there and the only reason I get blocked is because I caught their scam and called them on it.[/QUOTE]Yes, seems very suspect so I was asking. It's been like 6+ years since anything like this was real.

[QUOTE=Merovingian2;7497159]This profile seems to be too good to be true like the before covid times. If anyone has met her IRL and can vouch she is real, please DM. I have several early and mid-20 college girls I can trade if you have contact info and details you can share.

I have no idea if this is real. I am asking if anyone knows because youve met this person. If you have, Ill trade contact info if you have details.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6ebc8aac-01e0-41e2-aece-df5b740221d0[/URL][/QUOTE]LOL, she declined to respond to my inquiry a few months ago. Guess I'm not her type.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7497222]LOL, she declined to respond to my inquiry a few months ago. Guess I'm not her type.[/QUOTE]Seeking has gotten too expensive to waste cash chasing bullshit profiles. Glad I asked. If anyone has a better outcome DM me and I'll trade a Brazilian and Asian college girls I've been seeing for a while. Early 20's UW. Only if you have contact info and verifiable proof it's real.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/daca6c37-09ba-440c-9431-0b20f967c4c8[/URL]

Does anyone know about this one?

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/16f97334-d18e-4b9e-956c-e0aa6df4e0ad[/URL]

Vietnamese. Quoted 1600 for 3 h, didn't bother to even counter.

Content seller, saying she's in Seattle and asking for online date right away.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/046e7d31-08bf-45ff-9c8f-7ac4040abfec[/URL]

Told me she's looking for in person and then told me online only.

And in the end told me she's looking for friends. Didn't get a quote even.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cd0f0309-fd08-4209-b626-b3239c17af40[/URL]

700 BBFS on bc, not my type didn't try to counter.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/0b3bb396-c84d-43aa-93b6-ffa6f140b0db[/URL]

Travel to Seattle regularly, 600 BBFS for 2 h, clock watcher, can host.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/efcbaa26-ec4c-4275-8c62-78f4ea038889[/URL]

500 cfs ppm, stopped replying when I asked to meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e432e4be-b169-41f5-a5f8-08983d860a53[/URL]

500 an hour and want social date, LOL didn't bother to continue talking.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/640b8d0f-7c1e-4466-bb8a-c52395f26fcd[/URL]

800 ppm, BBFS, cannot host, didn't meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/a5ffdf93-9fe0-4d5e-bd56-472de4c719dc[/URL]

500 ppm can host, BBFS, did a video chat, not my type didn't meet.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/9b94d43d-fa49-43c5-9dcc-c63376eb39e6[/URL]

[QUOTE=Seattlebp;7497362]Travel to Seattle regularly, 600 BBFS for 2 h, clock watcher, can host.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/efcbaa26-ec4c-4275-8c62-78f4ea038889[/URL][/QUOTE]She's pretty hot. 6 bills is a bit steep but if she's dirty that goes a long way.

Clock watcher is lame but 2 hours and I'm beyond spent.

Told me she does in person depends, maybe I'm not her type, didn't get a quote.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/7a5231cc-92cf-4178-b29d-aab0338e0906[/URL]

700 BBFS ppm, talked down to 600, real, ok skills, cannot host.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8715ad8d-bfb1-4fde-9598-52ad1e3b7176[/URL]

[QUOTE=Seattlebp;7497376]700 BBFS ppm, talked down to 600, real, ok skills, cannot host.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8715ad8d-bfb1-4fde-9598-52ad1e3b7176[/URL][/QUOTE]Next time just put it all in one post, ffs. Read the thread for examples, not hard to find.

Yana.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c45bdab6-bfe1-4bc1-824f-5569e5d97e35[/URL]

Looks cute, but kept talking about other topics when I asked for number, didn't get a quote.

Jade.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e9509bfa-0837-45ab-b911-985ad495880c[/URL]

Young and cute, 500 ppm, ghosted me before the day of meeting.

Solo sweetheart.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/865c7931-2921-481f-a4f2-9de65d226acd[/URL]

Real, 400 ppm, too tall for me, didn't repeat.

Kylee.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/1a652d34-59c6-4a1d-8f02-4cf07d0aaef4[/URL]

Real, her cousin is so cute LOL but not on SA, bikini barista, met once but very expensive, 400 h BBFS.

Sarah.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/351df3b1-8f3c-4310-9349-2255651f169d[/URL]

Real, friendly, 500 ppm cfs, cannot host, pics are outdated, may repeat.

[QUOTE=MorganCreamin;7497577]Next time just put it all in one post, ffs. Read the thread for examples, not hard to find.[/QUOTE]Or just thank him for his intel.

[QUOTE=Seattlebp;7497356][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/16f97334-d18e-4b9e-956c-e0aa6df4e0ad[/URL]

Vietnamese. Quoted 1600 for 3 h, didn't bother to even counter.[/QUOTE]I've found the craziest GPS and the most restrictions and maximum psycho flakiness generally come from Asian SBs. Well, except for Pinays. If you find a naughty filipina nurse you have found a unicorn.

Reading through the intel that is posted on here makes you wonder is it even worth the effort. Things have definitely changed in the last few years. Its harder to find someone and what there asking for is outright ridiculous. 600 for covered and they can't host? Maybe your lucky and can find a 300-400 one but more then likely there a pro or once was.

The amount of messages you have to send to find one real one that actually wants to meet is extremely time consuming.

I guess the fun and excitement is gone because its just a lot of work.

Sorry for the rant but I think my time in the sugar bowl is over. I just have to come to terms with it now.

[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;7497728]...
I guess the fun and excitement is gone because its just a lot of work.

Sorry for the rant but I think my time in the sugar bowl is over. I just have to come to terms with it now.[/QUOTE]Yes, there are a lot of gurls out there asking for ridiculous amounts of money.

Generally if they are asking for more than 600 ppm I don't even bother with negotiating and move on. I find I can find more girls than I can ever fuck at 400 ppm with very open menus. On BBFS my rule is I don't do that until I've verified they are on BC. Sometimes I'll even pay for an IUD at Planned Parenthood. Yeah, it is an additional expense but much cheaper than child support.

The younger girls and the girls with higher asking prices are usually the biggest time wasters and worst flakes. And in my experience the very best service at the very best prices has been some freaky ladies in their early thirties.

[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;7497728]I guess the fun and excitement is gone because its just a lot of work.[/QUOTE]It is but there are still good ones to be found. I think the trick is not to invest too much effort into any individual SB and move on the moment GPS, drama, or entitlement shows up. It only takes one or two successes that turn into recurring situations to make it worthwhile. I've got two right now who have open availability, love to fuck, and (so far) are reasonable human beings. Did I have to wade through a bunch of short conversations and annoying GPS to find them? Definitely, but that's that game whether you're mongering on a pro site, out in that dating world, or wherever you are.

[QUOTE=Thefourtwo5;7497621]Or just thank him for his intel.[/QUOTE]Fair. And I meant to mention it. Poorly formatted intel is still intel. My bad.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7497798]On BBFS my rule is I don't do that until I've verified they are on BC. Sometimes I'll even pay for an IUD at Planned Parenthood. Yeah, it is an additional expense but much cheaper than child support.
[/QUOTE]Just get snipped, man. For the cost (without insurance) of a couple sessions with a SB you won't ever have to worry about it again. Honestly makes a huge difference on the level of anxiety because you can never be 100% sure they are baby safe.

[QUOTE=SugarLifeNow;7489657]Hey everyone Dave here, new hot fun SLN girl in Vancouver, her name is Elina and she is 20. She says she is a [b]Ukrainian[/b] girl that arrived in Vancouver recently and is looking for help, said she would be willing to meet in Seattle. She might be a pro or a grifter, but you never know and she's worth a try being as hot as she is. She said she likes pretty much everything except anal, but would be open to it as long as she knew ahead of time. She said she likes a bit of rough sex, and can handle some spanking, choking, and slapping. No word on BBFS, but she is asking for a medium to high PPM allowance. She also has content for sale.

[URL]http://sugarlifenow.com/profile/Elinaa/[/URL][/QUOTE]When I saw Ukrainian I got interested although no way I would sugar in Vanc. Slavic and E. European girls are my specialty. Two of my current sugars are Ukrainian and Albanian. Creampied plenty of Russian girls in my life.

Elinaa's SLN account is using pics of an Instagram model I subscribed to and I checked her video verification and def not the same girl, still kinda cute esp with her mouth wide open waiting for my angry cock to make a deposit down her throat LOL. I requested body pics from her private albums because the video is only face and that usually means they fat.

I enjoy reading your posts from one city to the next with your Sugar Of The Day promotion LOL. And want to give you flowers for supporting and sponsoring this board Dave.

Chatted with this one, wanted 150 for a meet and greet. Pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bea9586e-fce6-4595-82c4-67d691ae53ac[/URL]

[QUOTE=Bronco62;7499617]Chatted with this one, wanted 150 for a meet and greet. Pass.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/bea9586e-fce6-4595-82c4-67d691ae53ac[/URL][/QUOTE]Well of course she does because she is top shelf quality LOL.

But seriously her profile is a complete joke. Her pics make her look like some dumpy older women that should be blessed just getting a nice dinner and someone that wants to see her with her clothes off.

These women are completely delusional.

Had one this morning block me after sending a Pic of what I look like. She was over weight and maybe a 2 or 3 on a good day.

While I'm not the most handsome I'm still at least a solid 5 or maybe a 6 on a good day. Funny how I wasn't goid enough for her LOL.

[QUOTE=MilfHunter66;7499733]These women are completely delusional.[/QUOTE]It's not just women on the sugar sites, it's American / Western women in general. One of the reason why I hobby is that most women bring nothing to the table. They don't approach relationships willing to be equal partners or work together, it's all about what will you do for them and they feel like they have to provide nothing in return. The sugar sites just get a slightly exaggerated version of that that's a little more out in the open. Women look down on hobbyists but they don't see that many of us would happily settle down if they weren't so fucking selfish and self-absorbed.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/61caa665-6e07-487c-9685-219b50763f39[/URL]

Zeynep, 250 for a coffee meet, told me if not then don't message her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/d8603cc3-c80f-4e9c-bbae-d2c792e67118[/URL]

500 for 2 h, after I said yes she blocked me LOL.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/23475753-6fee-474a-aea0-2799ee274f15[/URL]

Rose, she changed her profile she was looking for a SD called Charlie who blocked her LOL, switch location between Canada and WA don't even know why she hmu.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/74243b51-08e1-43ca-a3a3-57b21c587db1[/URL]

Content seller, $40 for a few pics.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ba340737-a307-4215-a62e-a35e4c160fd0[/URL]

Content seller.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/472dc94b-561e-4146-9b62-4d11194904a0[/URL]

Karrine, maybe I'm not her type, kinda rude asking me to f-off when I just said hi LOL.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7497798]Yes, there are a lot of gurls out there asking for ridiculous amounts of money.

Generally if they are asking for more than 600 ppm I don't even bother with negotiating and move on. I find I can find more girls than I can ever fuck at 400 ppm with very open menus. On BBFS my rule is I don't do that until I've verified they are on BC. Sometimes I'll even pay for an IUD at Planned Parenthood. Yeah, it is an additional expense but much cheaper than child support.

The younger girls and the girls with higher asking prices are usually the biggest time wasters and worst flakes. And in my experience the very best service at the very best prices has been some freaky ladies in their early thirties.[/QUOTE]I'm at 21 22 and one 23 all bare 300-400. I find the ones over 30 to be the most delusional! Have fucked 18 and 19 ho's but yes they are flaky and often one and done as they need money for phone or the goofy 6'3" BF that's broke. The older ones always think their puss is better. LOL its not. Well ok ok not all the older ones I had a long term one that was 30 and a real sweet and fun date. We even went to regular dating stuff. Anything gets worse with age and use. I have shown my work here as well. . No fatties and no 3'-4's. If more guys had an abundance mindset this and dating would be much much better. Weak men have brought hard times. AI layoffs will level the field. Get in line ladies, winter is coming.

[QUOTE=Merovingian2;7477871]I meet them and make it a date like any other. 1/3 the time they end up sleeping with me for $0. 1/3 I talk them down to something like an allowance that works out to $200/ pop. 1/3 it goes no where. Guess what the truly normal 20 yo girls don't especially want to think of themselves as sleeping for money. So the game is in removing that mental friction and make them feel like it's like any other normie relationship except you're giving them what they need instead of a $200 dinner every time you see them.
[/QUOTE]This is it exactly. I think the problem with some guys is they want a pro to get laid for $X right away. It doesn't always happen that way, that's what actual pros are for. It's a time and numbers game with SBs.

[QUOTE=VanDawg;7503561]This is it exactly. I think the problem with some guys is they want a pro to get laid for $X right away. It doesn't always happen that way, that's what actual pros are for. It's a time and numbers game with SBs.[/QUOTE]It's honestly a mix. I find some girls are right up front about things but still seem to think they aren't hoes. I'm obviously not going to argue the point with them but it's interesting mental gymnastics.

Noticing more and more SBs in the 2-4 range showing up on my feed, even a 1 here and there. They must be getting desperate. I don't like to be insulting but a couple actually made me cringe when I scrolled past their pictures. I mean, good luck to them finding someone willing to pay for it.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/c191afcc-8b5c-4060-8c75-d51e1e2e50c7[/URL]
Janessa, worst so far, she'll send you a doc of a long price list, asking money for everything including text and photos, CFS even CBJ.
2000 ppm, 250 per hour with so many rules and you have to prepay.


[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/06495ca7-ad4f-4008-9750-1253f73c84a5[/URL]
Ana, told me she only see cute / handsome guys after just saying hi LOL.


[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/4cf3bc2d-f662-4e7a-a145-4870bcb1b22f[/URL]
Petite ayda, pretended to be student LOL, quoted 600 per hour and then I found her tna with 100+ reviews.
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/community/members/jasmineeee.536006/[/URL]


[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/286cf6e9-29a5-4894-9459-6938432b3ca5[/URL]
Lindsey, rude, didn't even get a quote, guess I'm not her type.


[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ea201bc0-3042-4370-b1e1-7a6aa7782803[/URL]
Laura, rude, didn't get a quote, told me she's richer than me LOL.


[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/b242d972-3bb1-4eea-b891-5091e04cec0a[/URL]
Jada, 1000 ppm, did a video chat, looks real, too old for this price, haven't met yet.


[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/039f1a45-1b69-4513-9333-cad5777ab6e4[/URL]
LunaMei, 1000 ppm, same, video chatted but didn't meet.


I was supposed to meet one in person for got cancelled last minute, will share once I verify again.