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[QUOTE=Redbeard0504;1434330]Was I reading incorrectly or did Izzy say she was getting into another line of work? Well, if that was my impression I was wrong. She has now appeared in the Birmingham, Alabama area and is doubtless making some people very happy there. LOL.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that she has been working on a project or two for at least a year now, which would eventually lead her into a new line of work, but like anyone, felt she would be a fool to quit her present job, pre-maturely. I guess timing Ultimately is everything. Now, as for me, I suppose I should be making plans to make a trip to Bham now. LOL

[QUOTE=Mikaeles;1433825]Hmmm well lets figure this out shall me! Who usto be a Luvsgfe girl? Who had a rather abrupt departure with the luvsgfe name and house? Who usto be a luvsgfe girl and has received bad reviews of robbery and possible signs of drug use recently? This shouldn't be hard to figure out who is behind this bust and who is the CI! Becareful friends![/QUOTE]This is what I don't understand, there are no mugshot photos of any of the girls on the booking photos in orange county. Don't those have to be released?

Well with any luck everyone invoked remembered the golden rule of the hobby "Nobody talks, everybody walks". I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me that it would be hard to prove anything unless someone squealed. I mean really based on observations from the outside what do you have? People coming and going. So what. Even if they busted in and caught them in the act how do they prove prostitution? You don't gave to sell them on anything, make them prove you did it. One good thing that came out of the whole Casey Anthony mess was a reminder of how high the states burden is in criminal cases. Just keep your mouth shut and make them prove it. Pretty hard if nobody talks. Don't remember where it is but someone had posted a link on here a while back to law professor giving a lecture on subject. His comment that sticks in my mind was just shut up. Don't lie to the cops because then they have you. Far more people have talked their way into being arrested than out of it.

[QUOTE=Ftguy68;1434392]This is what I don't understand, there are no mugshot photos of any of the girls on the booking photos in orange county. Don't those have to be released?[/QUOTE]

They can be raided with no arrests it was probably a shake down or scare tactic to slow things down in town or scare the old man that lives in the house. Things like this happen all the time those AMPs get busted all the time without arrests.

[QUOTE=Ftguy68;1434392]This is what I don't understand, there are no mugshot photos of any of the girls on the booking photos in orange county. Don't those have to be released?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Seminole John;1434420]Well with any luck everyone invoked remembered the golden rule of the hobby "Nobody talks, everybody walks". I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me that it would be hard to prove anything unless someone squealed. I mean really based on observations from the outside what do you have? People coming and going. So what. Even if they busted in and caught them in the act how do they prove prostitution? You don't gave to sell them on anything, make them prove you did it. One good thing that came out of the whole Casey Anthony mess was a reminder of how high the states burden is in criminal cases. Just keep your mouth shut and make them prove it. Pretty hard if nobody talks. Don't remember where it is but someone had posted a link on here a while back to law professor giving a lecture on subject. His comment that sticks in my mind was just shut up. Don't lie to the cops because then they have you. Far more people have talked their way into being arrested than out of it.[/QUOTE]The link is under "Guide for the married" lower on the Orlando page. Here is the link.

[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?6626-Ten-Things-NOT-to-do-if-Arrested[/url]

Yes, I remember that link, and it even had a LE Investigator, who is now a Defense Attorney, say the exact same thing: Don't ever talk to the cops! If you keep your mouth shut, they can't get you for lying, or anything that will incriminate you!

Now, about the mugshots. No, they do NOT have to post the mugshots. The former StephanieLuvsGFE's most recent mugshot has been conveniently removed from her most recent arrest, even though it still shows her real name; etc, from the website, which I take is a clear indication she's working as a CI with LE. However, they still have her mugshot photo on her earlier arrest. If any monger was foolish enough to have given Stephanie actual personal information where LE can identify them, look out.

If you check out VS's recent post in the Negative Review forum, you'll see where he did warn us Mongers about the LuvsGFE house owner secretly taking videos of all encounters. I later confirmed with two of the now former LuvsGFE girls that the fat owner of the house was, indeed, actually videoing every session the girls had with Clients for his own personal viewing. However, those videos are now the property of LE! So, if the videos clearly show exchange of money for sex, and they can identify the monger, with the help of Stephanie, or the video, you're toast!

Another very good reason to never, ever trust a Provider, no matter how great they may seem, because, unfortunately, this forum is full of examples of how Providers (new & well-established) turn on their Clients and expose damaging information about them right here in this forum. For those Mongers who have clearly made it public in this forum that they are "in Love / Lust" with their ATF's, this should be a wake up call! When it comes to a Provider looking at losing their kids, and their freedom, they will "sing like a canary", and turn your ass in!

[QUOTE=Ftguy68;1434392]This is what I don't understand, there are no mugshot photos of any of the girls on the booking photos in orange county. Don't those have to be released?[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Seminole John;1434420]Well with any luck everyone invoked remembered the golden rule of the hobby "Nobody talks, everybody walks". I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me that it would be hard to prove anything unless someone squealed. I mean really based on observations from the outside what do you have? People coming and going. So what. Even if they busted in and caught them in the act how do they prove prostitution? You don't gave to sell them on anything, make them prove you did it. One good thing that came out of the whole Casey Anthony mess was a reminder of how high the states burden is in criminal cases. Just keep your mouth shut and make them prove it. Pretty hard if nobody talks. Don't remember where it is but someone had posted a link on here a while back to law professor giving a lecture on subject. His comment that sticks in my mind was just shut up. Don't lie to the cops because then they have you. Far more people have talked their way into being arrested than out of it.[/QUOTE]

I am not completely out of the business. I am doing some traveling due to my other line of work. And if I do have some free time, I try to go to other cities in my near by area so I can meet new friends. Then once my work is done, I will return to Orlando and continue working with my established clients.

[QUOTE=Redbeard0504;1434330]Was I reading incorrectly or did Izzy say she was getting into another line of work? Well, if that was my impression I was wrong. She has now appeared in the Birmingham, Alabama area and is doubtless making some people very happy there. LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Seminole John;1434420]Well with any luck everyone invoked remembered the golden rule of the hobby "Nobody talks, everybody walks". I'm not a lawyer but it seems to me that it would be hard to prove anything unless someone squealed. I mean really based on observations from the outside what do you have? People coming and going. So what. Even if they busted in and caught them in the act how do they prove prostitution? You don't gave to sell them on anything, make them prove you did it. One good thing that came out of the whole Casey Anthony mess was a reminder of how high the states burden is in criminal cases. Just keep your mouth shut and make them prove it. Pretty hard if nobody talks. Don't remember where it is but someone had posted a link on here a while back to law professor giving a lecture on subject. His comment that sticks in my mind was just shut up. Don't lie to the cops because then they have you. Far more people have talked their way into being arrested than out of it.[/QUOTE]Excellent advice by SJ. Don't let a cop intimidate you and feel like you have to sell the situation to him. They are well trained to let you run your mouth and incriminate yourself. Keep your mouth shut and politely lawyer up. Many people have in fact talked themselves into getting arrested.

SP

[QUOTE=Ftguy68;1434392]This is what I don't understand, there are no mugshot photos of any of the girls on the booking photos in orange county. Don't those have to be released?[/QUOTE]No they don't, for example, try to find a mugshot of anybody in Jacksonville for instance and the sentinel mug page has only one pross. Arrest in about the last month.

If you look on the OCSO site under prostitution you will only find trail girls on it, anyone who could remotely have money for an Attorney never shows up on the site. Those pics are used mainly to intimidate the John's. And apparently they haven't been running john stings because the last time I looked there were no men on the site. The city of Orlando apparently given up on the internet pics the thread is still there but there is no one on it.

VS

[QUOTE=LittleIzzy;1434535]I am not completely out of the business. I am doing some traveling due to my other line of work. And if I do have some free time, I try to go to other cities in my near by area so I can meet new friends. Then once my work is done, I will return to Orlando and continue working with my established clients.[/QUOTE]Well, you are certainly missed here and anywhere you go they are lucky to have you.

Something else to keep in mind that I just found out is that texts and I'm's are easily intercepted by LE but are not governed by same laws as voice communication and can be. More easily used against you. Keep that in mind when communicating with providers.

[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1434766]No they don't, for example, try to find a mugshot of anybody in Jacksonville for instance and the sentinel mug page has only one pross. Arrest in about the last month.

If you look on the OCSO site under prostitution you will only find trail girls on it, anyone who could remotely have money for an Attorney never shows up on the site. Those pics are used mainly to intimidate the John's. And apparently they haven't been running john stings because the last time I looked there were no men on the site. The city of Orlando apparently given up on the internet pics the thread is still there but there is no one on it.

VS[/QUOTE]

I wish this rumor would stop. Yes the house had cameras in it for the security of the girls and nothing more. Nothing was ever recorded that happened between any provider or client. These rumors were all started by Stephanie herself please stop spreading them. I have talked to former luvsgfe girls about this as well and they deny it happening and my Intel is from some of the original girls not the newest ones. As well as info from people with a lot of knowledge of the house its activities and its owner please stop with the scare tactics.

[QUOTE=CamelToeLover; 1434511]Yes, I remember that link, and it even had a LE Investigator, who is now a Defense Attorney, say the exact same thing: Don't ever talk to the cops! If you keep your mouth shut, they can't get you for lying, or anything that will incriminate you!

Now, about the mugshots. No, they do NOT have to post the mugshots. The former StephanieLuvsGFE's most recent mugshot has been conveniently removed from her most recent arrest, even though it still shows her real name; etc, from the website, which I take is a clear indication she's working as a CI with LE. However, they still have her mugshot photo on her earlier arrest. If any monger was foolish enough to have given Stephanie actual personal information where LE can identify them, look out.

If you check out VS's recent post in the Negative Review forum, you'll see where he did warn us Mongers about the LuvsGFE house owner secretly taking videos of all encounters. I later confirmed with two of the now former LuvsGFE girls that the fat owner of the house was, indeed, actually videoing every session the girls had with Clients for his own personal viewing. However, those videos are now the property of LE! So, if the videos clearly show exchange of money for sex, and they can identify the monger, with the help of Stephanie, or the video, you're toast!

Another very good reason to never, ever trust a Provider, no matter how great they may seem, because, unfortunately, this forum is full of examples of how Providers (new & well-established) turn on their Clients and expose damaging information about them right here in this forum. For those Mongers who have clearly made it public in this forum that they are "in Love / Lust" with their ATF's, this should be a wake up call! When it comes to a Provider looking at losing their kids, and their freedom, they will "sing like a canary", and turn your ass in![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Seminole John;1435131]Something else to keep in mind that I just found out is that texts and I'm's are easily intercepted by LE but are not governed by same laws as voice communication and can be. More easily used against you. Keep that in mind when communicating with providers.[/QUOTE][url]Http://m.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/technology/technolog/how-long-do-wireless-carriers-keep-your-data-120367[/url]

It would be nearly impossible to store all that information for too long.

[QUOTE=Arson420; 1435210][url]Http://m.technolog.msnbc.msn.com/technology/technolog/how-long-do-wireless-carriers-keep-your-data-120367[/url]

It would be nearly impossible to store all that information for too long.[/QUOTE]However I'm curious to know if LE can lock in on a girl's phone and intercept every text message. If so and legal then no need to get the info from the wireless carrier. No idea if it's possible but seems like trouble could be avoided by having a monger phone and initiate service from a pay phone a distance away from where you live and work.

I've discussed and seen it discussed here numerous times. Get a burner phone and pay cash for it, get minutes and pay cash for them. Go to a pay phone and activate the phone. I park down the street and walk so not to be seen in my vehicle with real license plates. Repeat the previous steps.

Under my old SN I was told I'm paranoid and it can be said again if you like. I am paranoid but when I called a girl once and heard a radio in the background squelch up (I am familiar with these). Needless to say I said wrong number and hung up. She called back and asked if I was looking for a GFE, I had the RIGHT number. LOL, I wiped the phone down and let it go to it's eternal resting place. Now I have a new phone and number.

Is your career, marriage, reputation, picture on the web and the fact that your information is stored somewhere out there for access by leo worth a $40 burner. Hmmm you tell me. I know mine is.