Korean Bar Reports

[QUOTE=Belot Eater;1563771]Ah, what you really mean you and Older hopelessly failed. You said " BE will learn ". YOU gave up. As for Oldee, he tried all night but failed too. When you think you always right but in a way you guys wrong. Lvb for life. Yeaaaah! Please don't bring up trying to change me again at the bar cause you guys going fail so let us just drop it and move on.[/QUOTE]I no care you insult me but, come on, show respect to someone older and wiser den you. Your DKBG don't care about you, just your money and you say we wrong? She also treats you like shit big time. I think you betta change your name to Pabo number1.

[QUOTE=Oldee;1564112]I no care you insult me but, come on, show respect to someone older and wiser den you. Your DKBG don't care about you, just your money and you say we wrong? She also treats you like shit big time. I think you betta change your name to Pabo number1.[/QUOTE]I never insult Kapa, try read again. And read it with a smile.

[QUOTE=Oldee;1564112]Your DKBG don't care about you, just your money and you say we wrong? She also treats you like shit big time.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the concern but no worries, Oldee; Kapa no feel insulted. Like they say,"The proof is in the pudding," so let time and reality be the judge of BE's "pudding" regardless of the talk. Let bygones be bygones; you on your own.

Ok so just a quick question. Do any of the KB's (around the Ala Moana area) actually have any girls working right when they open at 2 PM or is it like its here on Maui and the bars are pretty much empty except for maybe the bartender, cook, and people watching football and drinking? Oh yeah I am asking if its like that on a Sunday

[QUOTE=Belot Eater;1563771]Ah, what you really mean you and Older hopelessly failed. You said " BE will learn ". YOU gave up. As for Oldee, he tried all night but failed too. When you think you always right but in a way you guys wrong. Lvb for life. Yeaaaah! Please don't bring up trying to change me again at the bar cause you guys going fail so let us just drop it and move on.[/QUOTE]I have been there and done that in my younger days. You right now need a bullet to the brain to stop your lunacy. But your friends just trying to tell you the way it is, as mine tried, in vain to do. LVB = Pabo my yobo said pabo mean't stupid and boy was I. True friends are like gold you should treat them right even though they not agreeing to what you want them to agree to. If they didn't care they wouldn't say nothing.

When you run your charge cards up to the limit and your job cannot support your bar habit and you take a second on your home to pay off those CC probably even then you still going for it because right now you think you in Love. She in love with your money and how much she can hit you for every payday. She knows your limit and when you reach it she goes onto the next one. Christmas bonus, incentive bonus, profit sharing dividends and any other source of income you will spend on her because you love her! She knows this as well.

BE unless you making 6 figures safer to hang with Oldee and Kap and learn how to say NO! Once you say no to your KBG see how long she hangs around. Really cut her off for couple pay checks or if you really strong for 6 months she going wonder where you going. Be strong when she makes it harder, after you cut her off the hell with her she needs your money more then you need her company. And finally at least read. Try to process and understand what your older brothers are tying to teach you. It's through a lot of pain and $. Take care and be safe financially as well as mentally cause these KBG's are good at playing with your mind. I can say this because I have been through it believe me you not alone in this situation. Local guys just too nice and these Koreans know it and use it to their full advantage. Wise up before you really get hurt. And if you think you different. We all thought that too before we wised up to the reality of the situation and when no more money. No more honey baby!

[QUOTE=Kapakahi;1563956]The KBGs know Kapa no buy nekos but they still try by rubbing their body parts and coming in close; sharks like to rub their skin against their victims before the kill. But Kapa no bend due to lessons learned and principles established long ago. Of course, Kapa could have a weak moment if the timing was wrong, such as Connie, Mary, Sue, Lisa, etc, making tantaran! LOL! Stick to the lessons: make them approach you, not vice versa, like most hopelessly LVBs. IMO.[/QUOTE]Kapakahi is this the Connie that was in business with 2 other wahines in that Club on Dillingham after Cleo's and before the turn on ala Kawa? If so, where she working now? I don't go to bars unless reason now days but if she still working would like to buy her a drink even if she got big. If not thats ok.

Thanks for any info.

If anyone wants to meet up to chill we will be in the kap area around 830-9. PM me for info.

Belot, empty out your inbox. We at butts. By the way one of the bartenders looks like an older korean version of mariko.

[QUOTE=Getting Old; 1564304]I have been there and done that in my younger days. You right now need a bullet to the brain to stop your lunacy. But your friends just trying to tell you the way it is, as mine tried, in vain to do. LVB = Pabo my yobo said pabo mean't stupid and boy was I. True friends are like gold you should treat them right even though they not agreeing to what you want them to agree to. If they didn't care they wouldn't say nothing.

When you run your charge cards up to the limit and your job cannot support your bar habit and you take a second on your home to pay off those CC probably even then you still going for it because right now you think you in Love. She in love with your money and how much she can hit you for every payday. She knows your limit and when you reach it she goes onto the next one. Christmas bonus, incentive bonus, profit sharing dividends and any other source of income you will spend on her because you love her! She knows this as well.

BE unless you making 6 figures safer to hang with Oldee and Kap and learn how to say NO! Once you say no to your KBG see how long she hangs around. Really cut her off for couple pay checks or if you really strong for 6 months she going wonder where you going. Be strong when she makes it harder, after you cut her off the hell with her she needs your money more then you need her company. And finally at least read. Try to process and understand what your older brothers are tying to teach you. It's through a lot of pain and $. Take care and be safe financially as well as mentally cause these KBG's are good at playing with your mind. I can say this because I have been through it believe me you not alone in this situation. Local guys just too nice and these Koreans know it and use it to their full advantage. Wise up before you really get hurt. And if you think you different. We all thought that too before we wised up to the reality of the situation and when no more money. No more honey baby![/QUOTE]BE still never belives a word we say but we love the pabo, LOL.

[QUOTE=Lumpia808;1564385]If anyone wants to meet up to chill we will be in the kap area around 830-9. PM me for info.[/QUOTE]Meet up at butterfly, semi busy, got fooled into looking at girl in yellow dress, looked great from behind, but turns out to be ROB taiwanese girl, didn't think a KBG would have such a nice round ass, then off to casino, again semi busy, chicken alice was there along with the girls from moon flower, still want the chicken recipe, one day I going chance buying her neko, off to ellie's, again semi busy, then to damour, dead, and ending the night at business, semi busy.

[QUOTE=Getting Old;1564304]Once you say no to your KBG see how long she hangs around.[/QUOTE]Like Oldee says, good report. Very useful but hard to assimilate especially when you're really into the girl.

Used to be, once the girl realized 'No' really meant 'No', she'd angrily walk in not more than 3 seconds as though it meant 'Not Ever" rather than just for that night. The smarter or more experienced ones would secure the attitude and try again next time around.

It seems they've learned to think ahead and are not so quick to burn bridges, and do actually stick around for a while. When they walk away, they excuse themselves nicely and are always friendly even when getting drinks at the bar from another customer. It's not until I've turned them down a few times when they finally stop asking, but they still smile or say hi.

Of course, she's right there to introduce when her 'best friend' just started and "please buy her drink!" :).

[QUOTE=H Mobius; 1564527]Like Oldee says, good report. Very useful but hard to assimilate especially when you're really into the girl.

Used to be, once the girl realized 'No' really meant 'No', she'd angrily walk in not more than 3 seconds as though it meant 'Not Ever" rather than just for that night. The smarter or more experienced ones would secure the attitude and try again next time around.

It seems they've learned to think ahead and are not so quick to burn bridges, and do actually stick around for a while. When they walk away, they excuse themselves nicely and are always friendly even when getting drinks at the bar from another customer. It's not until I've turned them down a few times when they finally stop asking, but they still smile or say hi.

Of course, she's right there to introduce when her 'best friend' just started and "please buy her drink!".[/QUOTE]Just go with BE like last night and no need worry, they no come bodda you for drinks. Its another story but I LIKE them bodda me, LOL.

[QUOTE=Oldee;1564611]Just go with BE like last night and no need worry, they no come bodda you for drinks. Its another story but I LIKE them bodda me, LOL.[/QUOTE]Oldee, you just got home? Or are you at Green Tee?

[QUOTE=Mogo Master;1564615]Oldee, you just got home? Or are you at Green Tee?[/QUOTE]Green Tea with all the other ole fut cronic Alkies. SGTFM.

[QUOTE=Fujikurasplice;1564495]Meet up at butterfly, semi busy, got fooled into looking at girl in yellow dress, looked great from behind, but turns out to be ROB taiwanese girl, didn't think a KBG would have such a nice round ass, then off to casino, again semi busy, chicken alice was there along with the girls from moon flower, still want the chicken recipe, one day I going chance buying her neko, off to ellie's, again semi busy, then to damour, dead, and ending the night at business, semi busy.[/QUOTE]You can give a little more detail bro, and Business wasnt semi busy, was very busy, LOL. Every booth taken and filled with LVBs. BE felt brave surrounded by all his fellow LVB army, lol. Thanks for last night bro. Lumps and Jehuts left early cuz we lame, lol.

[QUOTE=Kapakahi;1563956]The KBGs know Kapa no buy nekos but they still try by rubbing their body parts and coming in close; sharks like to rub their skin against their victims before the kill. But Kapa no bend due to lessons learned and principles established long ago. Of course, Kapa could have a weak moment if the timing was wrong, such as Connie, Mary, Sue, Lisa, etc, making tantaran! LOL! Stick to the lessons: make them approach you, not vice versa, like most hopelessly LVBs. IMO.[/QUOTE]I just want to be there when you break down Kapa. At least the kbgs that you mention are the ones I would buy for. Not for play, but becuz they nice and friendly.

[QUOTE=Oldee;1564493]BE still never belives a word we say but we love the pabo, LOL.[/QUOTE]I don't have to kiss Oldee ass to look good on the net. Before I met with you guys lastnight stop at a Korean place to eat by Splash (photo) and see this at Casino (photo). BTW Chan was looking good lastnight in dress.

[QUOTE=Oldee;1564672]You can give a little more detail bro, and Business wasnt semi busy, was very busy, LOL. Every booth taken and filled with LVBs. BE felt brave surrounded by all his fellow LVB army, lol. Thanks for last night bro. Lumps and Jehuts left early cuz we lame, lol.[/QUOTE]Business has hotties some plays in the PR.

[QUOTE=H Mobius; 1564527]Like Oldee says, good report. Very useful but hard to assimilate especially when you're really into the girl.

Used to be, once the girl realized 'No' really meant 'No', she'd angrily walk in not more than 3 seconds as though it meant 'Not Ever" rather than just for that night. The smarter or more experienced ones would secure the attitude and try again next time around.

It seems they've learned to think ahead and are not so quick to burn bridges, and do actually stick around for a while. When they walk away, they excuse themselves nicely and are always friendly even when getting drinks at the bar from another customer. It's not until I've turned them down a few times when they finally stop asking, but they still smile or say hi.

Of course, she's right there to introduce when her 'best friend' just started and "please buy her drink!".[/QUOTE]HM that's why at this juncture "Bullet to the Brain" because the middle leg is in overdrive and the brain all boozed up telling him go, go, go, for it. I feel for this guy because he heading for a real big fall especially when he cannot support his bar habit or the wahine especially if it's one of Patty's girls (she is timelesss but is she still around?). As to the smart ones they are the most dangerous. I seem to remember "this is my sister" line pretty much used all the time. LOL I wouldn't trade shoes with BE for nothing, but I tried.

[QUOTE=Fujikurasplice;1564495]Meet up at butterfly, semi busy, got fooled into looking at girl in yellow dress, looked great from behind, but turns out to be ROB taiwanese girl, didn't think a KBG would have such a nice round ass, then off to casino, again semi busy, chicken alice was there along with the girls from moon flower, still want the chicken recipe.[/QUOTE]I think you can get the recipe online by doing a search. I think I tried it once and was able to get it. But did not get around to trying out the recipe.

Can anyone confirm that MoonFlower is closed. Heard that Friday was last day and that Chanel mama has closed down due to slow business. Was unable to find someone to take over. Probably rent too high. Oh well another one bites the dust and maybe more to follow. Camelot, CEO, etc.

[QUOTE=Warriors808;1564772]Can anyone confirm that MoonFlower is closed. Heard that Friday was last day and that Chanel mama has closed down due to slow business. Was unable to find someone to take over. Probably rent too high. Oh well another one bites the dust and maybe more to follow. Camelot, CEO, etc.[/QUOTE]Yes, MF is closed, or was when I went by last night. Camelot is about to change owners and mamas, too. A lot of the MF girls are working at Casino now, where my friend and I partied last night.

[QUOTE=Local1234;1564722]Business has hotties some plays in the PR.[/QUOTE]You sure its not just ROB / tease in the PR? LOL. IF you did PLAY or seen PLAY, PM me the names bro. W808, yes, MF closed. Some girls went vacation, others moved other bars like Casino. Heard a new mama taking over soon, tho. Maybe renovate? Btw, Camelot was super dead last night.

[QUOTE=Mogo Master;1564687]I just want to be there when you break down Kapa. At least the kbgs that you mention are the ones I would buy for. Not for play, but becuz they nice and friendly.[/QUOTE]Kapa nearly broke down yesterday. Good thing fellows Fuj, Jehuty, Lumpia, and Oldee were there to give the strength and support of the mini DFM; BE excused himself and disappeared someplace in the Koreamoku distance. First time meeting Fuj so, as Oldee mentioned, sukebes are attending and enjoying the FM fellowship.

Many older (65+) LVBs were bringing their gifts of money, food, and wonderful personality (so they think) to their DKBGs at all KBs attended. Too bad they don't see the sour faces of their Dreams as they walk away to their next victims. In fact, the breakdown almost occurred as a well-known ROB KBG tried to snag Kapa with the three 'sacred shats:' "You handsome; you smart; you the best." LOL, better bad luck next time! As the early evening came to a halt for Kapa, the common denominator is that local guys are too nice; only in Hawaii can these KBGs get away with what they do. If this were any other place, KBGs would be MIA and DKBGs would disappear, but LVB fools perpetuate the ignorance, mockery, and abuse by these 'military surplus' KBGs. However, to each their own until the first $100K and more.

[QUOTE=Kapakahi; 1565205]Kapa nearly broke down yesterday. Good thing fellows Fuj, Jehuty, Lumpia, and Oldee were there to give the strength and support of the mini DFM; BE excused himself and disappeared someplace in the Koreamoku distance. First time meeting Fuj so, as Oldee mentioned, sukebes are attending and enjoying the FM fellowship.

Many older (65+) LVBs were bringing their gifts of money, food, and wonderful personality (so they think) to their DKBGs at all KBs attended. Too bad they don't see the sour faces of their Dreams as they walk away to their next victims. In fact, the breakdown almost occurred as a well-known ROB KBG tried to snag Kapa with the three 'sacred shats:' "You handsome; you smart; you the best." LOL, better bad luck next time! As the early evening came to a halt for Kapa, the common denominator is that local guys are too nice; only in Hawaii can these KBGs get away with what they do. If this were any other place, KBGs would be MIA and DKBGs would disappear, but LVB fools perpetuate the ignorance, mockery, and abuse by these 'military surplus' KBGs. However, to each their own until the first $100K and more.[/QUOTE]Send me a pm as to who you almost gave into. I guess curious.

[QUOTE=Kapakahi; 1565205]Kapa nearly broke down yesterday. Good thing fellows Fuj, Jehuty, Lumpia, and Oldee were there to give the strength and support of the mini DFM; BE excused himself and disappeared someplace in the Koreamoku distance. First time meeting Fuj so, as Oldee mentioned, sukebes are attending and enjoying the FM fellowship.

Many older (65+) LVBs were bringing their gifts of money, food, and wonderful personality (so they think) to their DKBGs at all KBs attended. Too bad they don't see the sour faces of their Dreams as they walk away to their next victims. In fact, the breakdown almost occurred as a well-known ROB KBG tried to snag Kapa with the three 'sacred shats:' "You handsome; you smart; you the best." LOL, better bad luck next time! As the early evening came to a halt for Kapa, the common denominator is that local guys are too nice; only in Hawaii can these KBGs get away with what they do. If this were any other place, KBGs would be MIA and DKBGs would disappear, but LVB fools perpetuate the ignorance, mockery, and abuse by these 'military surplus' KBGs. However, to each their own until the first $100K and more.[/QUOTE]Are you crazy? Thank god the others was there. If I never had to go I would have to get serious * slap you and sent you home. LOL. Did you guys stay out late? Hope you guys had fun.

[QUOTE=Fujikurasplice;1564495]Meet up at butterfly, semi busy, got fooled into looking at girl in yellow dress, looked great from behind, but turns out to be ROB taiwanese girl, didn't think a KBG would have such a nice round ass, then off to casino, again semi busy, chicken alice was there along with the girls from moon flower, still want the chicken recipe, one day I going chance buying her neko, off to ellie's, again semi busy, then to damour, dead, and ending the night at business, semi busy.[/QUOTE]Found the Chicken Alice recipe.

[QUOTE=Mogo Master;1564687]I just want to be there when you break down Kapa. At least the kbgs that you mention are the ones I would buy for. Not for play, but becuz they nice and friendly.[/QUOTE]As a former LVB been out of it for awhile, but where do you suggest to take a friend coming back from off island now? He retired military and married to korean he resides in Korea. These nice and friendly KBG you talking about have names, time they usually work, and bars they work at? PM me the list please or post either way.

Thanks for the info.

[QUOTE=Warriors808;1565417]Found the Chicken Alice recipe.[/QUOTE]Thank for posting the recipe, but now chicken alice looses out on a neko from me.

Any interest in doing a FM on Oct 20 or 21? Is there a UH game that weekend?

[QUOTE=Kapakahi; 1565205]Kapa nearly broke down yesterday. Good thing fellows Fuj, Jehuty, Lumpia, and Oldee were there to give the strength and support of the mini DFM; BE excused himself and disappeared someplace in the Koreamoku distance. First time meeting Fuj so, as Oldee mentioned, sukebes are attending and enjoying the FM fellowship.

Many older (65+) LVBs were bringing their gifts of money, food, and wonderful personality (so they think) to their DKBGs at all KBs attended. Too bad they don't see the sour faces of their Dreams as they walk away to their next victims. In fact, the breakdown almost occurred as a well-known ROB KBG tried to snag Kapa with the three 'sacred shats:' "You handsome; you smart; you the best." LOL, better bad luck next time! As the early evening came to a halt for Kapa, the common denominator is that local guys are too nice; only in Hawaii can these KBGs get away with what they do. If this were any other place, KBGs would be MIA and DKBGs would disappear, but LVB fools perpetuate the ignorance, mockery, and abuse by these 'military surplus' KBGs. However, to each their own until the first $100K and more.[/QUOTE]Nice to meet you kapa. Joined BE, Oldee, & Kapa at secret location. Lumps and Jehtz showed up afterwards. Heard BE had to leave to go on a hot date, what no invite us? We like watch. Saw jehtz's VG (vomit girl) at butterfly. Even kappa knows VG. Everytime we see VG we all bust out laughing, kapa was wondering what was so funny, so jethz told story of how she got her name. Kapa called it a night. Next was Business, Oldee was conducting his psy 101 seminar. Lumps got all excited about learning how to psych out KBGs. He said jehtz talked about it before but never mentioned going into detail about it, especially the applications . WAKBG (Weapons Against KBGs). You guys should join FM to sign up for oldee's psy101 class and be license to use WAKBG.

Old Tea Time (before it was business) story. Old KBG served us food, lots of it. So I'm grinding away and she asks for drink, I told her no, that I'm waiting for (can't remember her name) who was bartending at the moment. I just dropped the name because she introduced herself the week before. Most KBG would leave it at that, but no, old lady goes and asks the bartender if she knows me, she says no, old lady comes back and takes away all the food, she was so pissed. Didn't matter to me, ate most of the food. The look on her face, priceless. If she just accepted the "no" everyone would have been fine, but she didn't, she's all pissed and I have a funny story.

[QUOTE=Belot Eater;1564720]I don't have to kiss Oldee ass to look good on the net. Before I met with you guys lastnight stop at a Korean place to eat by Splash (photo) and see this at Casino (photo). BTW Chan was looking good lastnight in dress.[/QUOTE]I tink the only way to fix BE would be to give him some oriental blood, that way, he going show respect to the elders. Or BE not taking his meds and selling them on the side. LOL.

[QUOTE=Fujikurasplice;1565509]Thank for posting the recipe, but now chicken alice looses out on a neko from me.[/QUOTE]Make a whole bunch and bring it to the next FM. If good I buy you plenty beer, LOL.

Old Tea Time (before it was business) story. Old KBG served us food, lots of it. So I'm grinding away and she asks for drink, I told her no, that I'm waiting for (can't remember her name) who was bartending at the moment. I just dropped the name because she introduced herself the week before. Most KBG would leave it at that, but no, old lady goes and asks the bartender if she knows me, she says no, old lady comes back and takes away all the food, she was so pissed. Didn't matter to me, ate most of the food. The look on her face, priceless. If she just accepted the "no" everyone would have been fine, but she didn't, she's all pissed and I have a funny story.[/QUOTE]In the old days, when you eat food: one you leave tip and two you buy her good luck drink! I don't' know what she brought out, but unless the system has changed that old lady had to pay for your food (there is no free lunch there is a price list in the Ajuma's kitchen) so by stiffing this "old lady" she lost some bucks on you guys and the next time you go there see what you get? The Korean grapevine is really fast and unfortunately you have made an impression. A negative one and these women may be there today but they could be at Casino, Butterfly where ever tomorrow. I guess you young and learning the ropes but how would you feel if someone stiffed you. Wouldn't you get mad? I not taking this "old ladys" side but this is a business you don't eat at a restraunt and leave without paying your bill which is what you did, no wonder she was mad. You lucky she didn't throw the food on you. I would have, the food is a loss anyway no harm. LOL young kids now days. No class. If going you out there with less than a gamblers $1 in your pocket you have no business in a Korean Bar. If you going to more than one better have $2 at least no large bill over $20. KB's are an expensive hobby be sure you can afford it before you start to play.

[QUOTE=Mogo Master;1565525]Any interest in doing a FM on Oct 20 or 21? Is there a UH game that weekend?[/QUOTE]No UH game Oct. 20; next games Oct. 13 & 27; info per UH schedule online. I going rest this and maybe next weekends due to busy sked.

[QUOTE=Mogo Master;1565525]Any interest in doing a FM on Oct 20 or 21? Is there a UH game that weekend?[/QUOTE]I'm sure they will come and see the Kalihi King give a guided tour of Kalihi bars and maybe you point out some of your playgirls, LOL. I don't know my schedule for that weekend but doesn't matter if I go or not as you and Kapa can handle things, hehe. I think we are due for a Kalihi FM next too. Eh Wangn bro, set the bros up with some good grinds ah, LOL. I think Fuj going bring his chicken but I don't think got enough for everybody, LOL.

[QUOTE=Getting Old;1565430]These nice and friendly KBG you talking about have names, time they usually work, and bars they work at?[/QUOTE]Connie, T-F, Ellie's; Sue, F-Sun, D'amour; Mary, F-Sa, Jasmine; Lisa, Sa-M, Ellie's.

[QUOTE=Getting Old; 1565430]As a former LVB been out of it for awhile, but where do you suggest to take a friend coming back from off island now? He retired military and married to korean he resides in Korea. These nice and friendly KBG you talking about have names, time they usually work, and bars they work at? PM me the list please or post either way.

Thanks for the info.[/QUOTE]Howzit G O bro. Since you don't intend to buy nekos, I would suggest the Kapiolani Blvd KBs since they close to each other if you want to change scenery between drinks. Casino, Butterfly, Ellie's, and Evergreen has eye candy after 8pm and they won't most likely hound you for nekos if you sit at the bar. If you going afternoon or before night shift, not much to see but its more food oriented pupu wise if you hungry, some of the girls make ono food at various bars mentuoned above. Just suggestions bro.

[QUOTE=Belot Eater;1565368]Are you crazy? Thank god the others was there. If I never had to go I would have to get serious * slap you and sent you home. LOL. Hope you guys had fun.[/QUOTE]Kapa almost had one NEON breakdown; was even going for the Sukebe Scoop, top and bottom of the ROB's body but decided to eat some peanuts instead; the implants (34C) and fishnet stockings were calling (plus the ROB was moaning a little) , LOL! We was going spy to make sure you nevah go to the Darkside but thought it would be better to see the Amazon and Vomit KBGs. Finally, after fun discussions, storytelling, and laughs, Kapa no can take it anymore and went home carefully.

[QUOTE=Oldee;1565829]Howzit G O bro. Since you don't intend to buy nekos, I would suggest the Kapiolani Blvd KBs since they close to each other if you want to change scenery between drinks. Casino, Butterfly, Ellie's, and Evergreen has eye candy after 8pm and they won't most likely hound you for nekos if you sit at the bar. If you going afternoon or before night shift, not much to see but its more food oriented pupu wise if you hungry, some of the girls make ono food at various bars mentuoned above. Just suggestions bro.[/QUOTE]If anything Oldee food but if I get food willing to pay for it and usual good luck drink (old habits die hard.) We not really into play but eye candy doesn't hurt. Does Ji hee (or something like that) still own Casino? I was in their couple months back had to get new battery at Sears so had hour to kill only 2 of us in the bar but the bartender gave us some pupu for one oolong tea. I met J. F. Of the fab 5 fame in there was telling me his story after basketball was pretty interesting and he is a nice guy. As far as Butterfly took my cousin out and he was given choice of Casino or Butterfly he choose butterfly was pretty busy on a Sunday had some golf groups and the bar was full only 3 seats left we sat at the bar. Didn't even get the name of the bartender but was working with a Guy? Had one and we left he had to go home and open his birthday gifts with the kids. I don't think I have been to Ellie's may check it out next time need to pick up meds from walmart. Thanks for the info. Evergreen, been awhile changed owner twice I think. Too bad about Miki mama but unlike all the guys that hate her she used to give my poison bad time guess she didn't like what was happening to me and she did try to warn me many, many times. But no listen so if asked still willing to by her a drink. That sushi guy Mori still there?

Seems like Casino and Butterfly (Safari, Secrets what other names?) still ok places to go will check it out when he comes in thanks.