That is chump change compared to. LOL
[QUOTE=WorkYard;6065441]Wants 75 o for meet-and-greet.
"So for my first meet I'm used to 750. I expect the arrangement talk to be discussed, and I expect to get a good idea of what you are looking for in an arrangement. ".
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6232a31a-028c-4a62-8609-f63ccd0b8a00[/URL][/QUOTE]This one. From her site, her expectations of SD / SB relationship.
* I want to be a homeonwer, of a Single family home, Possibly 5 bedrooms.
* I would like to have a newer car, Realisticly standard sedan, Luxury model not necessary, Simply reliable vehicle.
* I want a credit score of 750-800.
* Would love to go on 1 vacation a year.
* I do not want to struggle as much as I have.
* I want what most people have, but take for granted.
Go figure the dreams of some of these SBs.
2 photos
Be careful we have thief in SA
Calls herself Alyssa. Meet in College park. Wanted me to get PROSCIUTTO wine. Fine by me. After drinking half bottle. She is being flirty and friendly. This is where I acted against my own rules (I am cursing myself for doing this) - she wanted the money upfront $350. I said I never give money upfront. SHe said don't you trust me. I gave in and gave the money. After that she said her Dad was calling and she needs to call him and stepped out of the room. She was gone. Disabled her TextNow account. Her profile is still active on seeking. Lesson learnt never give money upfront which I never did until now.
[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/46358106-c04d-4419-af5f-658414c81e53[/URL]
Compromise is Def the Best First Option, But I've Found It Rarely Works
[QUOTE=OliverNP;6069573]I believe you missed the point of my conveying that experience.
You're correct that this particular girl wasn't a scammer, but she demanded the money up front. I started out explaining my policy of never fronting cash, but I could tell she was shutting down, and the date was headed toward becoming a total loss. I suggested putting her phone in the safe as a negotiated compromise: she got what she needed, cash in hand. Meanwhile I got what I wanted, an assurance she wasn't going to use her phone as an excuse to duck out and bolt with the cash I just gave her. Hopefully you can see how creative negotiation had EVERYTHING to do with that incident.
Stickdeath described a situation that would have been avoided if he had done same. Granted, if she truly went there with no attention of having sex, she might never have agreed to put her phone in the safe. But at least he would not have lost his money.
Some of these girls that end up scamming their SDs have been scammed by guys before that didn't pay. Some of them go into the date with the intention of carrying through, but if they see an opportunity to get more for less will seize the opportunity. If you leave the cage open on a birds door it shouldn't be a surprise if it flies. Remove the opportunity for scams and some of those scammers will turn out to be good or even great fucks.[/QUOTE]I get what you're saying, but what I'm saying is that your tactic of compromise most likely did not alter the outcome. She was probably going to fuck you even if you just straight up said "no, fuck me or I'm not giving you allowance. " The reason I say this is because we've all tried forms of compromise methods with girls and the compromises usually didn't work for me. Sure, you may have found the 1% situation where you met a legit girl that had real concerns, and your compromise saved the situation and got you some intense pussy, it's just very rare.
I agree that in these situations, there's nothing to lose by at least trying to compromise, and I still do it when given the option. For example, I always try to get girls to verify by sending a selfie doing a specific pose, but if they refuse then I suggest alternatives like video chat. I just notice that the first refusal of something reasonable is very often a sign that it's a scammer and they won't comply no matter what compromises I suggest. Same thing for sending cash before meeting, I've noticed legit girls almost never ask for it before seeing me in person, and the ones that ask for it almost never turn out to be legit even if I ask for a compromise.
The difference between what I do and what you're suggesting is that I haven't noticed my compromises changing my outcomes much, while you're saying it made a world of difference. Perhaps we just have had very different personal experiences.
I am not sure what they are smoking
Sometimes I wonder what they are smoking. I was chatting with this one [URL]https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/fce9d69f-24e0-405d-a3f3-b2bccf36c9e8[/URL] She blocked after our conversation. Upon initial contact, she said does not want to any physical intimacy. However, asked to leave my number if I would like to chat. I did. We moved the conversation to SMS. After few pleasantries, she was asking for an allowance to meet in person. I said we can hangout be friends and have probably have coffee / Drinks but if you are hoping to get paid for having coffee with me, I am not your guy. She flipped out and said I don't understand what seeking means. LOL. I am not sure what these girls are smoking. Are one of you fellow SDs meeting them and paying them for the privilege of drinking coffee with you?
Only if you want to create fireworks
[QUOTE=RudyWellz;6070875]My expertise is not in computer security, so take this with a grain of salt:
-First of all, just don't do it. Say no, drag your feet, sabotage, tell her you are paranoid of being tracked, etc.
-Keep all of your activities on your own laptop that you take to work everyday (assuming you don't work from home) and always use private browsing mode for Seeking website.
-Gmail addy and voice number for communications / texting. Again, always in private browsing mode.
Search the Richmond board. There was a long discussion around Operational Security recently from people who seem reasonably intelligent.[/QUOTE]Apple update shared information across platforms. Short story, am now divorced.
Or start an entire new apple I'd
[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;6070189]Wife is pushing for family sharing. Tips? I've hidden apps and I believe I also need to disable tracking. Anything else?[/QUOTE]The alternative is old phone with your old I'd and create an entire new I'd on a new phone for family share. Spin a story about a new needing a new one because of compromise to the old account and live with two different apple ids. A lot of work and you got to be diligent.
Also side note for new guys keep an entire different persona Avon a different phone and never download the apps for seeking or such websites. Always use the web log in. Or don't. But it works for me.
WG. She had a old profile years back.
There was a report from a senior member years back. I had a few messages with her years back but did not proceed as as she is a pro and only wanted hangout for an hour for $$.
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6072657][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8a583d3f-f817-4a57-9c68-e1a31d0fe079[/URL]
Real name Kara Wise. This girl is a weird one. We met up near Sterling, VA at a hotel, she didn't want to get to know one another over dinner so probably a semi-pro or pro. Attitude was aloof, we started going bareback, had a hairy vag. After maybe 10 min she says I'm not fucking her hard enough and wants to leave. I had been holding back so I didn't cum too soon. I'm talking to her and she's putting her clothes on and acting like a *****. I eventually give up trying to smooth things over and put my clothes back on as well. She then tells me to Cashapp her the money, and I tell her no since we didn't do what was agreed on.
She starts yelling and threatening me. Telling me she'll ruin my life, saying she'll get her boys out here to beat the fuck out of me. I tell her to GTFO of the room, she refuses now because she says she isn't leaving without the money. I tell her GTFO or I'm calling the front desk, she tells me to fucking do it. I walk out of the room, she ends up following me and I go to the front desk while she makes a brisk exit out the front door. I tell security and they call the cops, which I let them do since IDK if she really did call her boys and they're around the corner. Cops come and check everything out, nothing happens afterwards and I go home. She continues texting and threatening me for maybe 30 min until I block her number.
I am not married so I have nothing to hide, but the girl did threaten to expose me, call my work, blah blah. I told her if she does that then she's getting arrested for prostitution due to how we met, but she says she doesn't give a fuck, I've got more to lose. Just FYI for you all.
She was hot and did fuck BB but be careful.[/QUOTE]
Wish I Could Have Done That
[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6072657][URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/8a583d3f-f817-4a57-9c68-e1a31d0fe079[/URL]
Real name Kara Wise. This girl is a weird one. We met up near Sterling, VA at a hotel, she didn't want to get to know one another over dinner so probably a semi-pro or pro. Attitude was aloof, we started going bareback, had a hairy vag. After maybe 10 min she says I'm not fucking her hard enough and wants to leave. I had been holding back so I didn't cum too soon. I'm talking to her and she's putting her clothes on and acting like a *****. I eventually give up trying to smooth things over and put my clothes back on as well. She then tells me to Cashapp her the money, and I tell her no since we didn't do what was agreed on.
She starts yelling and threatening me. Telling me she'll ruin my life, saying she'll get her boys out here to beat the fuck out of me. I tell her to GTFO of the room, she refuses now because she says she isn't leaving without the money. I tell her GTFO or I'm calling the front desk, she tells me to fucking do it. I walk out of the room, she ends up following me and I go to the front desk while she makes a brisk exit out the front door. I tell security and they call the cops, which I let them do since IDK if she really did call her boys and they're around the corner. Cops come and check everything out, nothing happens afterwards and I go home. She continues texting and threatening me for maybe 30 min until I block her number.
I am not married so I have nothing to hide, but the girl did threaten to expose me, call my work, blah blah. I told her if she does that then she's getting arrested for prostitution due to how we met, but she says she doesn't give a fuck, I've got more to lose. Just FYI for you all.
She was hot and did fuck BB but be careful.[/QUOTE]Where do you guys find balls to do this? I have been in a similar situation before, but I chickened out. I was afraid of the lady causing a scene, so I gave her the money and she left. We didn't even have sex!