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[QUOTE=Macatawa;2656998]After much reading here and writing down numbers, I simply have one question:
Which massage parlor / therapist do you recommend for the best sensual massage? And I would like a massage that is actually enjoyable for the full hour.
In the past, I have visited Panacea with Aliese and very much enjoyed it. I have seen a girl named Jennifer twice who I see on CL offering a discount to men over 50. She was good both times.
But now I see numerous other places.
So far, I am leaning towards a Jessica (perky breasts) or a Lauren at YMassage (I think).
Who and where would you recommend?
A review will be forthcoming after my visit.[/QUOTE]Jessica will get topless or total nude and allows generous roaming. Her nipples are delicious! Great dirty talker. The rooms are quiet and private.
No clothes come off at (Y) Massage and roaming is limited to backside. I love Asians almost as much as our very own AsianPlvr (Jedi Master) does, but my complaint with them is Kathy the Mamasan. She likes to try and listen outside the door. I've had her knock on door and interupt my massages and 1 time she walked in the room w / o knocking, scarring the shit out of me and Lauren.
NJ.
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[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2657251]Jessica will get topless or total nude and allows generous roaming. Her nipples are delicious! Great dirty talker. The rooms are quiet and private.
No clothes come off at (Y) Massage and roaming is limited to backside. I love Asians almost as much as our very own AsianPlvr (Jedi Master) does, but my complaint with them is Kathy the Mamasan. She likes to try and listen outside the door. I've had her knock on door and interupt my massages and 1 time she walked in the room w / o knocking, scarring the shit out of me and Lauren.
NJ.[/QUOTE]Thanks. If Jessica is not there, then who should I ask for?
Also has anyone seen this one recently? I did a year or more ago, I think. She was pretty good. She is under BP too.
[URL]https://grandrapids.craigslist.org/thp/5274248747.html[/URL]
[URL]http://www.eroticpostreviews.com/p/1147173?modal=7744662&i=true&[/URL]#modal-tab.
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Best massage
[QUOTE=Macatawa;2656998]After much reading here and writing down numbers, I simply have one question:
Which massage parlor / therapist do you recommend for the best sensual massage? And I would like a massage that is actually enjoyable for the full hour.
In the past, I have visited Panacea with Aliese and very much enjoyed it. I have seen a girl named Jennifer twice who I see on CL offering a discount to men over 50. She was good both times.
But now I see numerous other places.
So far, I am leaning towards a Jessica (perky breasts) or a Lauren at YMassage (I think).
Who and where would you recommend?
A review will be forthcoming after my visit.[/QUOTE]I cannot advocate enough for Lauren at YBodyrub. I haven't been to all the massage spas but for some of the MPs who are recommended here that I have seen I think Lauren is the best. She will send you through the roof. Kathy has never been a problem for me.
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Agree
[QUOTE=LuvRubs;2658350]I cannot advocate enough for Lauren at YBodyrub. I haven't been to all the massage spas but for some of the MPs who are recommended here that I have seen I think Lauren is the best. She will send you through the roof. Kathy has never been a problem for me.[/QUOTE]Lauren provides a nichie massage, and a nice tease. I have also found that roaming is very limited. However, she provides the finish that I am looking for. Kathy does a reasonable massage as well. No teasing prior to the flip. Finish has always been good for me.
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Complaint about tipping
One of my biggest complaints about GR is that many of you WAY over tip. The vast majority of girls in this town are not THAT attractive or skilled to warrant $100 or more of your cash. I don't (and wouldn't) pay more than $60 - $80 TOTAL.
Thankfully, I'm getting back out west to reconnect with my ATFs out there. First stop is PDX where there are some REAL women worth REAL money. Just so you guys can get a sense of what a real woman is worth (a sense because there is no ad that comes close to being with these women listed below). BTW, there is no tipping these girls, what they ask is what you friggin' pay (unless they deem you worthy to offer FS, if they do that). Gorgeous women, full roaming, full nude, etc. All for one simple price. Think about these girls the next time you think about dropping $80+ door fee for topless.
I can't wait for my first flight out of town after a long drought!
Read and weep!!
And, if you're ever out that way I recommend ANY and ALL of the girls in this list. You can contact me privately for details if you are ever going to avail yourself of the opportunity to be with a real goddess. These are just the cream of the crop that post on BP. The rest post elsewhere and are all simply amazing!
[URL]http://portland.backpage.com/BodyRubs/brunette-_-_-_-green-eyed_-_-_-goddess/13605837[/URL]
[URL]http://portland.backpage.com/BodyRubs/come-discover-one-of-pdx-finest-relax-drift-into-bliss/13622102[/URL]
[URL]http://portland.backpage.com/BodyRubs/amazing-full-body-rubs-and-prostate-massage-included-with-a-plush-comfy-table-and120fh/12972077[/URL]
[URL]http://portland.backpage.com/BodyRubs/erotic-red-head-wwwbethanyblisscom-new-special/13737647[/URL]
[URL]http://portland.backpage.com/BodyRubs/thursday-night-special-99-special/12253614[/URL]
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Sniff Sniff!
Oh No! Please please please Mr Gloater. Don't go. We'll all miss you!
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Ok Ok
[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2658834]Oh No! Please please please Mr Gloater. Don't go. We'll all miss you![/QUOTE]Ok, Ok, I'll think about it. Nope, still going.
But you're right, it did sound gloatish. And I'm sorry. I was just really excited by the news that I'd get out of here for a while.
BUT. The point I WAS trying to make is that the rates most girls in town are used to are out of line with similar quality girls in other markets. A lot of that problem is due to how much guys here are willing to pay for sub-par. Saying "I had a terrible time" or "Looks were so-so, paid 40+60, won't repeat" is CRAZY! If you had a terrible time, 40+0 or 40+10. By why pay 60 for terrible service? Or even looks that are less than what you'd like based on what you thought you were going to get based on pics?? Also, I have yet to see a post where a guy says, "Oh, I saw this major hottie as I was about to go into the room and I stopped my SP and asked for the hottie instead. " Seriously. If you see someone you'd rather spend time with, ASK. If the girls here can't handle it, they will get out of the biz. And good riddance. But most will take it upon themselves to work hard at getting good reviews in other ways, so we all win!
There. I'll get off the soap box now. I have to pack. .
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[QUOTE=GMacMan;2659119]Ok, Ok, I'll think about it. Nope, still going.
But you're right, it did sound gloatish. And I'm sorry. I was just really excited by the news that I'd get out of here for a while.
BUT. The point I WAS trying to make is that the rates most girls in town are used to are out of line with similar quality girls in other markets. A lot of that problem is due to how much guys here are willing to pay for sub-par. Saying "I had a terrible time" or "Looks were so-so, paid 40+60, won't repeat" is CRAZY! If you had a terrible time, 40+0 or 40+10. By why pay 60 for terrible service? Or even looks that are less than what you'd like based on what you thought you were going to get based on pics?? Also, I have yet to see a post where a guy says, "Oh, I saw this major hottie as I was about to go into the room and I stopped my SP and asked for the hottie instead. " Seriously. If you see someone you'd rather spend time with, ASK. If the girls here can't handle it, they will get out of the biz. And good riddance. But most will take it upon themselves to work hard at getting good reviews in other ways, so we all win!
There. I'll get off the soap box now. I have to pack. .[/QUOTE]I liken it to my favorite strippers. The city of Memphis has some of the most beautiful girls that worked the club. We would take off from the base on paydays and live it up! One club I went to had these drop dead gorgeous girls that would 'slow dance' with you for $5 a song. While we were 'dancing' they would reach down your pants and finish you off, scoop up the juice and lick it off their hands. While they did that, you were able to do whatever you wanted as long as her clothes basically stayed on. SO why would I come up here and pay $40 for a half hour with a middle aged woman when I could be down south with a 19 year old hottie? Just like in real estate. Location, Location, Location! It would be different if there were similar choices you speak of in the relative area.
But there isn't. So we go with what we've got. But I will say that when I am able to travel, that is one of the things I will be looking for!
Thanks for sharing th elnks to tease us. The one with the red head actually did get me to tear up a bit!
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East West
I see that Mama Dee has moved to her new location on 28th Street and it appears that all the non-licensed girls have moved on to other venues. Has anyone taken the plunge and checked out the new lineup? I always enjoyed Ally while she was there and she has disappeared again. Anyone per chance see where she may have ended up? I'm in Indiana and only get up that way a couple of times a month.
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Kelly
Sorry forgot her link here it is.
[URL]http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-am-ready-to-have-some-funkelly/10110413[/URL]
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[QUOTE=Oddjob;2660993]I see that Mama Dee has moved to her new location on 28th Street and it appears that all the non-licensed girls have moved on to other venues. Has anyone taken the plunge and checked out the new lineup? I always enjoyed Ally while she was there and she has disappeared again. Anyone per chance see where she may have ended up? I'm in Indiana and only get up that way a couple of times a month.[/QUOTE]Who cares. All the girls there request ridiculous tips for subpar service and usually short you on time. Ally was the best one I saw there but not worth the requested tip.
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Rip-off at the Oasis
Or Frustration with the Relaxation Station.
I decided to visit the Relaxation Station after not hearing back from my first choice when I reached GR. My second choice was Jessica at RS. She was going to come in late to meet me and I didn't hear back from her either, but that was my fault for getting back to her quite late. So I decided to get who I got when I arrived.
This was my biggest mistake. I should have had a better Plan see.
An Asian lady was at the desk and was to be my therapist. I was somewhat disappointed since I expected non-Asian ladies. As I was deciding if I should leave or stay, a pretty African American peaked around the corner and smiled at me. I recognized her from the past when she was on her own. She went by the name of Cammy. She was just finishing a client. So I chose her. They wanted to do four hand, but my experiences has shown that usually one person is better than two. So I chose just Alyssa expecting great service.
This did not happen. I probably should have went with the Asian lady.
Alyssa (my spelling) is beautiful IMO. Speaking of perky breasts, hers are beautiful. Her massage techniques are good. Her personality is pleasant. Her smile is radiant. Her eyes sparkle with happiness.
Overall, her massage was not bad, but average. She could have been excellent, I think, if she was into spending the time with me and providing me with good service. It was all ruined because she shorted me on time, and she knew it and knew that I knew it. There was even a clock in the room. She even told me that I would get the full hour, and then she didn't do it. She apologized and said she would give me extra next time. Being that she knew that I don't get to GR often, she knew that probably wouldn't happen anyhow. If she really cared, then she would have given me a twenty back.
During our time, a call came through from a customer who (allegedly) wanted her. Alyssa scheduled her (yes it was) at a late enough time so that I could be done with my hour. Alyssa even told me that I would still get my complete hour. "I don't book clients on top of each other. " (Wait, you said you had 12 clients today and that is in less than 12 hours and you don't book close?) But a few minutes later, the customer requested if she could be earlier, so my time was to be shorted by a few minutes. Then the customer shows up fifteen minutes earlier than expected. For some reason, Alyssa seemed to be prepared for this. So my actual time with Alyssa was 40 minutes even though I requested an hour and she promised an hour. She knew this customer who was a woman (again, yes, I heard her voice), and began rushing our time right away after the phone call. She "finished" me off and as all women know, this helps guys not care that the time allotted is not fulfilled.
She even said as she raced out the door that she would give me an extra fifteen minutes next time. Right.
So, why didn't I short the payment or tip? Because both had been paid. Why didn't I demand money back? Because I was "promised" more time next time. Why didn't she ask the other lady to take over for her with me or the other customer? Because she didn't care about me as a customer as she had my money.
Frustrating to say the least but oddly not a surprise.
Never again will I go to this place. I know that they will keep in business. Too many guys will go back and enough won't be cheated. Most guys simply want that HE and a good massage is secondary.
In some ways, it is my own fault. I learned long ago that in most places, a half hour is what should be scheduled. This is always fulfilled. An hour is too long unless the therapist is actually a real one who enjoys giving massages. (This applies to business locations and not independents who work out of their homes). I should have known that unless a lady cares about me and is familiar with me, she will treat me as a money machine and move on. Alyssa had had twelve massages before me that day, so with me and the new customer, she had fourteen. It is all about the money and not about the service for her.
In Grand Rapids, the only massage place which I have visited that has given exemplary service is Panacea. When I got to Relaxation Station and was greeted by the Asian lady, I knew that I should have gone there instead, but as we all know hope that this will be the one place that gives us a "wow" time.
If you ever get to Kalamazoo, then look at my reviews. There is someone who is fantastic. You will see that I do have the perfect one, and should simply save my money for her. No one has done what she has done as often or as well. No shorting of time, no rushing, and above all, she enjoys it.
I am sure Grand Rapids has such a person, but I have not met her yet. I doubt I will find her in a business establishment.
So, forget Relaxation Station. Any place that shorts service that was promised is not worth even visiting. I even made it clear and Alyssa made it clear that I would get the full hour. Yet we both knew that when she finished me off within 30 minutes that it wasn't going to happen.
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[QUOTE=Macatawa;2662335]Or Frustration with the Relaxation Station.
This did not happen. I probably should have went with the Asian lady.
[/QUOTE]Wow, sorry to hear about your GR experience! The Asian lady is Joy. In 10 plus years she's never shorted my hour and loves to get nude. Real Thai Massage with her. Neck cracked too if wanted. I've seen Jessica several times for an hour and never been shorted and she's very sensual. As far as the other ladies at Oasis / Relaxation go, I agree that most guys pay too much and put up with too much BS for just a HJ. Any Lady that wants a tip upfront is usually up to no good!
NJ.
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Lexi Royal
I had a dream that I went to Royal today. Scheduled an appointment with Lexi. Attractive gal. Very nice. Little chubby. She has great massage skills. She did not comfortable off the jump but that did not bother me. She ask me if I wanted anything. I ask if she does bodyslides and she said yes but she stated it would be extra. I agreed. Bodyslide was okay. Allowed roaming. Finished me with handshake. Overall I had a great time with Lexi. She has great hands. Did not short me on time. Would repeat!! Damage 60 hr /$ tip.
P. s I'm a newbie to the game. Hi everyone!
Have fun play safe and be smart.
Crispy Noodlez.
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[QUOTE=NoseJelly;2662657]Wow, sorry to hear about your GR experience! The Asian lady is Joy. In 10 plus years she's never shorted my hour and loves to get nude. Real Thai Massage with her. Neck cracked too if wanted. I've seen Jessica several times for an hour and never been shorted and she's very sensual. As far as the other ladies at Oasis / Relaxation go, I agree that most guys pay too much and put up with too much BS for just a HJ. Any Lady that wants a tip upfront is usually up to no good!
NJ.[/QUOTE]Well, now I know. LOL 120 mistake.
Today I received a text from Jessica apologizing for not getting back to me. She also apologized for me getting shorted and promised that if I were up there again, then she would make it up to me, even though she had nothing to do wuth it, She siad that Alyssa must have had a bad day.
Class act that Jessica.