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I can't believe I lost this girls number. You got to stay on top of this shit. She was down and ready, all I had to was make the date. Then she stops going to her profile and I have no way to reach her. Killer body for a 30 year old.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4757728] Killer body for a 30 year old.[/QUOTE]Killer body for basically anybody with a body. Find that number dude!!
[QUOTE=Readct;4758007]Killer body for basically anybody with a body. Find that number dude!![/QUOTE]Sometimes girls will take a break and come back months later. That's all I can hope for rn.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4757728]I can't believe I lost this girls number. You got to stay on top of this shit. She was down and ready, all I had to was make the date. Then she stops going to her profile and I have no way to reach her. Killer body for a 30 year old.[/QUOTE]I realize this may be a bit asinine, but that stomach is photo shopped to smooth it out. Not saying she's not still hot, but I'd wager a pup or two has dropped out of there.
[QUOTE=TechSticles;4758983]I realize this may be a bit asinine, but that stomach is photo shopped to smooth it out. Not saying she's not still hot, but I'd wager a pup or two has dropped out of there.[/QUOTE]Or maybe to get rid of some scars or discoloration. I have a half dozen photos she sent me. She is a typical I wish I wasn't such a spinner, spinner. I love these girls not only because its my preference but because they have been body shamed to the point that they cant believe anyone would even wanna be with them over the typical promoted big booty/big tittie girls. White girls and asians may revel in their thinness, but black girls and latinas, not so much. The amount of BS they hear about their weight is never ending. I am working on a 95 lb girl rn. Slow going. Her profile is a year old and she hasn't met anyone yet. Supposed to see her Monday. My ATF (or whatever she is now) is passing through town with her SD tomorrow and is gonna sneak away to see for a few hours. If you are gonna be an SD, never get possessive, most of these girls are free spirits.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4759071]Or maybe to get rid of some scars or discoloration. I have a half dozen photos she sent me. She is a typical I wish I wasn't such a spinner, spinner. I love these girls not only because its my preference but because they have been body shamed to the point that they cant believe anyone would even wanna be with them over the typical promoted big booty/big tittie girls. White girls and asians may revel in their thinness, but black girls and latinas, not so much. The amount of BS they hear about their weight is never ending. I am working on a 95 lb girl rn. Slow going. Her profile is a year old and she hasn't met anyone yet. Supposed to see her Monday. My ATF (or whatever she is now) is passing through town with her SD tomorrow and is gonna sneak away to see for a few hours. If you are gonna be an SD, never get possessive, most of these girls are free spirits.[/QUOTE]That's fair. I'm not saying she's not super attractive, because she most likely is. I was just pointing out the pic is altered.
I've seen some that show pics from their back because their belly is wadded up construction paper. This girl is clearly not that, but I'm always skeptical.
FWIW, my favorite SB was a thick chick that rocked my world. And I am not into thick chicks.
[QUOTE=TechSticles;4759082]That's fair. I'm not saying she's not super attractive, because she most likely is. I was just pointing out the pic is altered.
I've seen some that show pics from their back because their belly is wadded up construction paper. This girl is clearly not that, but I'm always skeptical.
FWIW, my favorite SB was a thick chick that rocked my world. And I am not into thick chicks.[/QUOTE]Actually she is very pretty. Just another one that got away due to there are just too many to keep up with.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/settings/hidden-members[/URL]
In case you ever want to look at the girls you've relegated to this place.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4759071]Or maybe to get rid of some scars or discoloration. I have a half dozen photos she sent me. She is a typical I wish I wasn't such a spinner, spinner. I love these girls not only because its my preference but because they have been body shamed to the point that they cant believe anyone would even wanna be with them over the typical promoted big booty/big tittie girls. White girls and asians may revel in their thinness, but black girls and latinas, not so much. The amount of BS they hear about their weight is never ending. I am working on a 95 lb girl rn. Slow going. Her profile is a year old and she hasn't met anyone yet. Supposed to see her Monday. My ATF (or whatever she is now) is passing through town with her SD tomorrow and is gonna sneak away to see for a few hours. If you are gonna be an SD, never get possessive, most of these girls are free spirits.[/QUOTE]Sorry for cluttering the discussion, but I have heard about girls shaming slender black girls also.
The baby I was seeing in south Florida was slender like a Barbie doll with big boobs and a prominent butt.
Chubby friends of her enemy bumped into her and said that she had AIDS, etc.
An altercation ensued.
The theme is interesting, in a way she is shamed for anything she succeeds at, and of course finding a "rich white man" can cause her ridicule among some of her acquaintances.
Others don't see it as a bad idea.
I have been chatting with this one for a while. Was going to meet her on an upcoming trip to Vegas in May which was cancelled due to COVID-19. Chatted with her yesterday and it sounds like business is slow, which is no surprise. She offered to send me "hot videos". I just laughed. It amazes me the number of women on SA who think guys will pay for videos and pics when all you have to do is search the internet and get them for free. There must be a market for this, but I can't believe there are that many guys who are that dumb.
Anyway, if anyone has experience with her, I'd be interested. I may return to Vegas when things return to normal and if I connect with her I will report. Thanks!
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a251837-b7ae-4331-b3c2-8fe4683786d9[/URL]
[QUOTE=Dash;4759907]Sorry for cluttering the discussion, but I have heard about girls shaming slender black girls also.
The baby I was seeing in south Florida was slender like a Barbie doll with big boobs and a prominent butt.
Chubby friends of her enemy bumped into her and said that she had AIDS, etc.
An altercation ensued.
The theme is interesting, in a way she is shamed for anything she succeeds at, and of course finding a "rich white man" can cause her ridicule among some of her acquaintances.
Others don't see it as a bad idea.[/QUOTE]So now imagine the level of shaming when they have small boobs and a small ass. It goes through the roof. I remember about 25 years ago pre-internet dating this 40 year old beautiful black bank manager I met on a chat line. Slender af and basically an A cup. She was tall and her legs were to die for. She told me she had to quit going to company parties because all the overweight black women were just giving her so much shit. Ever since then I have been keenly aware of it.
One last one. I am friends with an x model about 40 she lives in orlando. She is maybe 5. 7 and 120 with perfect C cups and def some hips on her. (here is her pic at 35 and about 117) She owns her own business and told me at one point she was considering gaining weight just to fit in more and not piss off these out of shape women customers she has. Really sad. I basically talked her out of it. She said it was a daily thing getting comments and she was just depressed over it. I have always felt aside from the turn on of a slender body that the actual sexual mechanics of being with a slender girl allows for deeper penetration, and more opportunity for just any position in general. Usually the first thing I look for in any profile pic is the girls arms. If they're slender you're probably are gonna be OK.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4755956][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/669589ba-5db2-44ce-a388-18c1b3762971[/URL]
Saw my super spinner today. Had the usual good time all around. If you need a girl that can last (like 1 - 2 hours), this is your girl. Today we went about 90 minutes with one 5 minute break.
I am not giving out her digits, just take your best shot, she is looking. No tats, alcohol, or drugs and the smoothest pussy around. Decent head game. Weighs in at about 100 lbs. Nice girl so be nice.[/QUOTE]Thank you for info.
[QUOTE=AmericanNinja;4760068]Thank you for info.[/QUOTE]No problem. Just a reminder, any time I am willing to pass on info it will be announced on this thread. So there is no need to PM for info or trades (which to this day I have never done).
More on slender body shaming. Years ago I coined a phrase about this. I call it the "oprahfication" of america. At one time oprah was actually trying to slim down and then one day she just said F it. She basically announced it on her show. She freely admitted she was not willing to give up certain foods and certain over eating habits. This made it totally acceptable for all those lazy IDGAS women that figure just because they have a pussy that some guy will always want it. Thank god there is a thing called genetics that makes it almost impossible for about 10% of men or women to gain weight beyond what is actually considered healthy. In the gym they call it hard gainers.
Long live the spinners and their ability to get me hard when I start playing with their sexy slender bodies. And its no secret that in men a healthy body makes for a better sex life all around. If you guys think you are going to be banging away at 70 (or even 60) with a big beer gut, think again. Even vitamin V and C can only go so far. Diabetes, overweight, and other conditions (like prostate/BPH), that may require drugs with adverse sexual side effects will be coming into play eventually. Trust me I know from personal experience. I still have a great time, but I can see the diminishing returns.
All the older guys (50 and up) already know this, but for you younger guys that get it up no problem in spite of your bad habits, (booze, drugs. overweight), be forewarned. Your time will come.
I've always been a big fan of slim girls. To each his own, but I've never understood the fascination with "thick" chicks.
And, by the way, I'm black. .
Lets get some participation going. Boob Check. What size do you prefer?
I like a perfect B but a full A or a small C will do just fine.
Gotta have good nips. On that I think we can all agree.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4761640]Lets get some participation going. Boob Check. What size do you prefer?
I like a perfect B but a full A or a small C will do just fine.
Gotta have good nips. On that I think we can all agree.[/QUOTE]That's my exact sweet zone as well. It's another advantage the slim goodies have. Smaller breasts look better on them because of the proportions. The gals who hate on them are just jealous.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4761640]Lets get some participation going. Boob Check. What size do you prefer?
I like a perfect B but a full A or a small C will do just fine.
Gotta have good nips. On that I think we can all agree.[/QUOTE]Another huge fan of the petite / spinners here! Tiny, thin, petite women are definitely my jam! And I couldn't have said it better myself HollywoodGuy - "I like a perfect B (but a full A or a small C will do just fine), and she's got to have good nips." A small woman like this makes me think of a ballerina or a gymnast, and what could be more feminine than that?! Also; I'm not a big guy (under 6 feet tall / under 200 pounds), so it feels a lot sexier if the woman is smaller than me, and I can more easily man-handle her.
A good example on the local scene is Kiara: [URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/kiara-escort-las-vegas-205975[/URL].
This woman has the [B]Perfect body[/B] for me!
If only she was GFE and not spacey, I'd never see anyone else.
(So if anyone knows of a provider who is built like this but GFE, [B]Please[/B] let me know.)
I wouldn't see Kiara. Too many restrictions. Katherine has full B cups. Great body but she rushed me. Will try to up sell. My donation was $100. May have a pimp. Agrees to services but doesn't perform them. Saw her at a motel.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/nevada/lasvegas/46193726/[/URL]
[QUOTE=AverageJoe702;4762107]Another huge fan of the petite / spinners here! Tiny, thin, petite women are definitely my jam! And I couldn't have said it better myself HollywoodGuy - "I like a perfect B (but a full A or a small C will do just fine), and she's got to have good nips." A small woman like this makes me think of a ballerina or a gymnast, and what could be more feminine than that?! Also; I'm not a big guy (under 6 feet tall / under 200 pounds), so it feels a lot sexier if the woman is smaller than me, and I can more easily man-handle her.
A good example on the local scene is Kiara: [URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/kiara-escort-las-vegas-205975[/URL].
This woman has the [B]Perfect body[/B] for me!
If only she was GFE and not spacey, I'd never see anyone else.
(So if anyone knows of a provider who is built like this but GFE, [B]Please[/B] let me know.)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MikeHawkOg;4762447]I wouldn't see Kiara. Too many restrictions. Katherine has full B cups. Great body but she rushed me. Will try to up sell. My donation was $100. May have a pimp. Agrees to services but doesn't perform them. Saw her at a motel.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/nevada/lasvegas/46193726/[/URL][/QUOTE]I know what you mean. Kiara does have too many restrictions, but she is SO HOT! I've had trouble finding a good replacement for her. I've probably seen her more than two dozen times.
This is why I need to find someone who is as hot as her, but is GFE. They say the best way to get over a particular women, is to get under a new one.
Agreed, if only Kiara was GFE or at least BBBJ, but at least she is friendly. Evertime I thought I was done with her I kept coming back for that tiny body and price. Although last time I saw her I swear she was getting a little thicker around the waste. Not sure if it's just her age catching up with her or something else.
Anyways I hope she's not done for good and just on hiatus because of the shut downs.
I thought Aurora on the listcrawler thread was going to be a good replacement, But I probably won’t see her again. Tiny nice body, not GFE but she does bbbj but up charges (although still cheap) for CIM. Plus she’s always at a weekly and I hate going to those. I can’t do outcall. At least Kiara had her own place.
Sorry to sidetrack off Non-sugar world info
[QUOTE=AverageJoe702;4762107]Another huge fan of the petite / spinners here! Tiny, thin, petite women are definitely my jam! And I couldn't have said it better myself HollywoodGuy - "I like a perfect B (but a full A or a small C will do just fine), and she's got to have good nips." A small woman like this makes me think of a ballerina or a gymnast, and what could be more feminine than that?! Also; I'm not a big guy (under 6 feet tall / under 200 pounds), so it feels a lot sexier if the woman is smaller than me, and I can more easily man-handle her.
A good example on the local scene is Kiara: [URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/kiara-escort-las-vegas-205975[/URL].
This woman has the [B]Perfect body[/B] for me!
If only she was GFE and not spacey, I'd never see anyone else.
(So if anyone knows of a provider who is built like this but GFE, [B]Please[/B] let me know.)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4761640]Lets get some participation going. Boob Check. What size do you prefer?
I like a perfect B but a full A or a small C will do just fine.
Gotta have good nips. On that I think we can all agree.[/QUOTE]I agree HG. I've found that girls with smaller boobs have more sensitive nippys the girls with big boobs. And on the subject of small. I wish these girls would look up the definition of "petite". A lot of them think just because they're short they're petite. 5 ft-5 ft 2 in and 130 lbs or above is NOT PETITE.
[QUOTE=Mrwk1;4763396]I wish these girls would look up the definition of "petite". A lot of them think just because they're short they're petite. 5 ft-5 ft 2 in and 130 lbs or above is NOT PETITE.[/QUOTE]I totally agree Mrwk1!
It drives me crazy when someone who is like 5 ft 7 in and 150 lbs advertises as "petite".
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;4761640]Lets get some participation going. Boob Check. What size do you prefer?
I like a perfect B but a full A or a small C will do just fine.
Gotta have good nips. On that I think we can all agree.[/QUOTE]Itty Bitty. Between a small B and almost flat. Roxxi Chanel would be an example of a pair (or lack thereof) that I could suck on for eternity.
[QUOTE=MNeiman;4763508]Itty Bitty. Between a small B and almost flat. Roxxi Chanel would be an example of a pair (or lack thereof) that I could suck on for eternity.[/QUOTE]OMG yes! That new picture that Roxxi Chanel put up on PD in the last few days, almost made me lose my mind! So crazy hot!
I only wish she was more like 5 ft 2 in instead of 5 ft 7 in, and had fewer restrictions, and was less expensive.
(Yeah; I know. I'm a ridiculously picky SOB).
[QUOTE=PeeWeeMorris;4759914]I have been chatting with this one for a while. Was going to meet her on an upcoming trip to Vegas in May which was cancelled due to COVID-19. Chatted with her yesterday and it sounds like business is slow, which is no surprise. She offered to send me "hot videos". I just laughed. It amazes me the number of women on SA who think guys will pay for videos and pics when all you have to do is search the internet and get them for free. There must be a market for this, but I can't believe there are that many guys who are that dumb.
Anyway, if anyone has experience with her, I'd be interested. I may return to Vegas when things return to normal and if I connect with her I will report. Thanks!
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a251837-b7ae-4331-b3c2-8fe4683786d9[/URL][/QUOTE]Yeah, with this COVID19 thing going on I find way more girls who use it as an excuse to try to sell me their photos or videos, even though I clearly say on my profile that I am not looking into any forms of online arrangement. Some also told me that there are indeed guys who are looking for online arrangements. My take on this is that it's either complete BS, or that some guys are just lured into this online dating with the promise of having a real date one day.
But there are also guys who are willing to pay for seeing a girl stripping and masturbating live on a webcam, so it's not a far stretch to see the same guys paying a girl for nude photos and videos. For me it's a strict no honey no sugar when it comes to sugar dating, but to each its own, and I definitely understand some married guys who would be willing to pay to almost cheat on their wife with an on online arrangement without really doing it. It's a little bit like strip clubs, to be as close as possible with another naked woman without technically cheating on your wife of girlfriend. I also never been into these, it feels to me that strip clubs are for married or in relationship guys, single guys would rather spend the same amount of money on a prostitute to get the real deal. At least that has been my experience, I've only been dragged to strip clubs by my friends with SOs, my single friends generally drag me to brothels instead.
[QUOTE=Cubico;4766559]Yeah, with this COVID19 thing going on I find way more girls who use it as an excuse to try to sell me their photos or videos, even though I clearly say on my profile that I am not looking into any forms of online arrangement. Some also told me that there are indeed guys who are looking for online arrangements. My take on this is that it's either complete BS, or that some guys are just lured into this online dating with the promise of having a real date one day.
But there are also guys who are willing to pay for seeing a girl stripping and masturbating live on a webcam, so it's not a far stretch to see the same guys paying a girl for nude photos and videos. For me it's a strict no honey no sugar when it comes to sugar dating, but to each its own, and I definitely understand some married guys who would be willing to pay to almost cheat on their wife with an on online arrangement without really doing it. It's a little bit like strip clubs, to be as close as possible with another naked woman without technically cheating on your wife of girlfriend. I also never been into these, it feels to me that strip clubs are for married or in relationship guys, single guys would rather spend the same amount of money on a prostitute to get the real deal. At least that has been my experience, I've only been dragged to strip clubs by my friends with SOs, my single friends generally drag me to brothels instead.[/QUOTE]Agreed. It's kind of a shit show on there right now trying to find girls willing to meet. Even though online only is against the SA terms (and I report anyone that states that's all their offering), the girls are getting around it right now by promising online only until things start to open back up, at which point they'd most likely ghost.
[QUOTE=PeeWeeMorris;4759914]I have been chatting with this one for a while. Was going to meet her on an upcoming trip to Vegas in May which was cancelled due to COVID-19. Chatted with her yesterday and it sounds like business is slow, which is no surprise. She offered to send me "hot videos". I just laughed. It amazes me the number of women on SA who think guys will pay for videos and pics when all you have to do is search the internet and get them for free. There must be a market for this, but I can't believe there are that many guys who are that dumb.
Anyway, if anyone has experience with her, I'd be interested. I may return to Vegas when things return to normal and if I connect with her I will report. Thanks!
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6a251837-b7ae-4331-b3c2-8fe4683786d9[/URL][/QUOTE]As I recall she wanted $1000+ for ppm to meetup when I contacted her last year.
Been 17 days since anyone posted anything here. Has anyone gotten a good bite lately? I'm finding the SB's don't quite understand that there's still no tourism and disposable income ain't what it used to be. They're still asking for $200-300 an hour.
With this whole Quarantine thing, scammers, fakes and girls who want free cash are taking advantage of the "only doing virtual" opportunity now and expecting guys to pay for some virtual arrangement. I think that's normally against the TOS for SA but they probably can't enforce it so there's more of that on the site. I browse with an occasional message but most are either holed-up and not going out or using that as an excuse to get some easy money. But you're right, a lot of girls will need to realize that the big money they got before may be harder to get as this stuff continues.
[QUOTE=VivaMattyVegas;4792198]Been 17 days since anyone posted anything here. Has anyone gotten a good bite lately? I'm finding the SB's don't quite understand that there's still no tourism and disposable income ain't what it used to be. They're still asking for $200-300 an hour.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=KSpacey;4792647]With this whole Quarantine thing, scammers, fakes and girls who want free cash are taking advantage of the "only doing virtual" opportunity now and expecting guys to pay for some virtual arrangement. I think that's normally against the TOS for SA but they probably can't enforce it so there's more of that on the site. I browse with an occasional message but most are either holed-up and not going out or using that as an excuse to get some easy money. But you're right, a lot of girls will need to realize that the big money they got before may be harder to get as this stuff continues.[/QUOTE]I'm mostly browsing right now as well and agree lots of girls using corona has a disguise to try and get online arrangements with the promise to meet when it's safe (not sure if these girls are finding any suckers to pay for pics). Some girls willing to meet are even asking for more than usual because it's "risky right now" LOL.
Also factor in the stimulus check and the unemployment benefits a lot of these girls are probably getting and they're not hurting yet. As those benefits expire, hopefully things will finally drop.
I did find one gem that was willing to meet. A very sweet 19 year old that was forced back to Vegas early from college due to the virus. I've been able to meet with her a couple times (and no I'm not sharing so don't ask), but at regular PPM. She's worth it though.
Bless the girls who can get suckers to pay for pics or videos without meeting them. Won't be me, but like PT Barnum said "There's a sucker born every minute".
[QUOTE=Dbuys;4794489]I'm mostly browsing right now as well and agree lots of girls using corona has a disguise to try and get online arrangements with the promise to meet when it's safe (not sure if these girls are finding any suckers to pay for pics). Some girls willing to meet are even asking for more than usual because it's "risky right now" LOL.
Also factor in the stimulus check and the unemployment benefits a lot of these girls are probably getting and they're not hurting yet. As those benefits expire, hopefully things will finally drop.
I did find one gem that was willing to meet. A very sweet 19 year old that was forced back to Vegas early from college due to the virus. I've been able to meet with her a couple times (and no I'm not sharing so don't ask), but at regular PPM. She's worth it though.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=FourSeasons2;4767724]As I recall she wanted $1000+ for ppm to meetup when I contacted her last year.[/QUOTE]I have been texting. Seems her GPS has gone away. I will probably meet up with her this weekend.
I have been messaging alot of girls on SA. The average PPM is 200-400? I will be sharing links and I have their phone #s if anyone is interested.
[QUOTE=Jr230;4795777]I have been messaging alot of girls on SA. The average PPM is 200-400? I will be sharing links and I have their phone #s if anyone is interested.[/QUOTE]Yes please share.
[QUOTE=Jr230;4795777]I have been messaging alot of girls on SA. The average PPM is 200-400? I will be sharing links and I have their phone #s if anyone is interested.[/QUOTE]The average is what you say it is. Talk to a lot of girls. I would say $.5 to $$.5 is more realistic unless you only chase 9's and 10's.
I got 9 new girls phone numbers and haven't pulled the trigger on any of them. Plus I tossed out about 9 more for various reasons. Everyone is either 20 or 21. Not sure why I haven't got any 18 or 19. Kinda weird. Six black and three latina. All pretty decent. Three newbies and the rest with varying degrees of mileage. I still got one regular from last year but lost another one due to someone on this thread that alerted her to this website. Bad move bro. Never do that. Makes me not want to post to this thread. In 10 years on the L. A thread I never had a problem. But of course I am the moderator. And still in all that time I have only deleted a handful of other peoples posts. (and a ton of mine whenever I get paranoid) But I don't have that luxury here. Anyway I am mostly over it. But my posts will be fewer and farther between with little traceable info going forward.
[QUOTE=Jr230;4795331]I have been texting. Seems her GPS has gone away. I will probably meet up with her this weekend.[/QUOTE]I'm sure the economy will be dictating some deals.
I saw 2 in LV recently. One wanted 250 but I got her to meet for 200. The other wanted 300 but I got her to meet for 250.
I saw another in Texas I had been in comms with prior to covid and had to cancel a previous meeting I was to attend in her city and our date. She wanted 300-350 previously but is now laid off from her regular job. She meet me really early one am at my place for fun and then I took her to breakfast for 200.
You'd think this would be one of the best buyers market in SD history, but I'm finding way more drama on SA than pre-pandemic. Either women want online only or they're playing games like never before. 2 1/2 months in you'd figure they'd get the hint there's still no tourism and we're in a near depression, but nope. Oh well, guess they'll figure it out come bill time.
[QUOTE=FourSeasons2;4802459]I'm sure the economy will be dictating some deals.
I saw 2 in LV recently. One wanted 250 but I got her to meet for 200. The other wanted 300 but I got her to meet for 250.
I saw another in Texas I had been in comms with prior to covid and had to cancel a previous meeting I was to attend in her city and our date. She wanted 300-350 previously but is now laid off from her regular job. She meet me really early one am at my place for fun and then I took her to breakfast for 200.[/QUOTE]