Anyone seen this one?

Well, if you've had different experiences, tell us! I don't know that it's clearcut, otherwise, that the list has been created by someone with an agenda rather than reality. And since there's so many BP ads right now and most of us are clueless as to quality or veracity, it's at least somewhere to start if not downright helpful.

[QUOTE=Andrew Movado; 1248048]Has anyone noticed the 30 yr old hater posting a shit list on the Lansing BP? If they have seen everyone he / she is trashing, I would say they must own a bank. Do you guys appreciate this? If not, please join me in reporting those adds. If the author is here, I would appreciate an understanding of why you are posting like that. I visit a couple of the providers that you are trashing and have had very different experiences, obviously.

Perhaps it is a Lansing pimp who doesn't want new talent in their market? Strange.

Be safe![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1248418]Well, if you've had different experiences, tell us! I don't know that it's clearcut, otherwise, that the list has been created by someone with an agenda rather than reality. And since there's so many BP ads right now and most of us are clueless as to quality or veracity, it's at least somewhere to start if not downright helpful.[/QUOTE]IMHO. I like the fact that he's calling out the poor provider's. The more information the better. If someone has a positive thing to say about one of the providers. Say it. But I'd rather have more information than less. He also said which ones were good looking but not the best performer. At least if we want to dream about them we know we don't have to bring bags. Maybe just some training videos. Bottom line is. There are a shit ton of lying provider's with fake pictures; fake ads and you name the scam. And the more help we have sorting through them the better.

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1248418]Well, if you've had different experiences, tell us! I don't know that it's clearcut, otherwise, that the list has been created by someone with an agenda rather than reality. And since there's so many BP ads right now and most of us are clueless as to quality or veracity, it's at least somewhere to start if not downright helpful.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Skyman012;1248440]IMHO. I like the fact that he's calling out the poor provider's. The more information the better. If someone has a positive thing to say about one of the providers. Say it. But I'd rather have more information than less. He also said which ones were good looking but not the best performer. At least if we want to dream about them we know we don't have to bring bags. Maybe just some training videos. Bottom line is. There are a shit ton of lying provider's with fake pictures; fake ads and you name the scam. And the more help we have sorting through them the better.[/QUOTE]Gentlemen, I appreciate your perspectives and to large degree agree. There are a ton of fakes out there. But the posts weren't only directed at fakes. On this board, I find most everyone credible and really appreciate their insight and intel. When Skyman tells me he paid $.20 to an SP asking $$, it makes for an easy negotiation as I know what she'll take. One bargain hunter here shared his technique with me where he says half is all he'll do and hangs up. More times than not, he claims, they call back. The strategy is the stealth. They suspect we all conspire but can't substantiate it. What advantage did we gain from what was posted? If you avoid contact with those providers listed as a result of that posting, then both of you presume the information is factual. How do we know? Does anyone know this individual and can validate their credibility?

This last week on another local board has been a hate fest culminating in a major pissing match between two individuals that likely will result in the departure of the SP. I for one, wanted to experience her. I am not sure, but have strong concerns that she's out of here as a result of the situation. Let's face it, the real, great looking ones can up and move to higher paying markets pretty damn easily. Suddenly all we are left with are the marginal providers charging basement rates yet providing basement services. I can't bail on MI yet, so I'd prefer to keep some decent ones around. Easily put, I am just saying negotiate the rate instead of launching the attack.

Imagine if the SP's we all see started posting shit about us this way. Old fat feable guy who had a hard time getting it up and then tried to haggle my rate before he paid me? Small dick and definatley no MSOG!

Every day someone here identifies a fake. Why not all us report those ads on BP as inappropriate on the basis of fake. Pretty easy to do and if we do it in force then BP pulls the ad. Pretty soon then, without fuss or muss, only unknowns or legits are left there. Just a thought. I am not attempting to force anyone to agree or participate. I do appreciate your perspectives and respect both of you based on earlier posts and that is why I inquired of your's and other's opinions.

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=Andrew Movado; 1248048]Has anyone noticed the 30 yr old hater posting a shit list on the Lansing BP? If they have seen everyone he / she is trashing, I would say they must own a bank. Do you guys appreciate this? If not, please join me in reporting those adds. If the author is here, I would appreciate an understanding of why you are posting like that. I visit a couple of the providers that you are trashing and have had very different experiences, obviously.

Perhaps it is a Lansing pimp who doesn't want new talent in their market? Strange.

Be safe![/QUOTE]I actually agree with Skyman 100% he actually gives you a list of people who are fake and who are the person in the pictures and tell you if their performance is good. I really don't understand why you're reporting the ads when the guy is wasting his time and money seeing girls and letting people like us know. So you really aren't making too much sense doing that but hey if you want to feel special sure?

As for the providers you've seen so which one of the providers has he put up that you say is better?

[QUOTE=Andrew Movado; 1248508]Gentlemen, I appreciate your perspectives and to large degree agree. There are a ton of fakes out there. But the posts weren't only directed at fakes. On this board, I find most everyone credible and really appreciate their insight and intel. When Skyman tells me he paid $.20 to an SP asking $$, it makes for an easy negotiation as I know what she'll take. One bargain hunter here shared his technique with me where he says half is all he'll do and hangs up. More times than not, he claims, they call back. The strategy is the stealth. They suspect we all conspire but can't substantiate it. What advantage did we gain from what was posted? If you avoid contact with those providers listed as a result of that posting, then both of you presume the information is factual. How do we know? Does anyone know this individual and can validate their credibility?

This last week on another local board has been a hate fest culminating in a major pissing match between two individuals that likely will result in the departure of the SP. I for one, wanted to experience her. I am not sure, but have strong concerns that she's out of here as a result of the situation. Let's face it, the real, great looking ones can up and move to higher paying markets pretty damn easily. Suddenly all we are left with are the marginal providers charging basement rates yet providing basement services. I can't bail on MI yet, so I'd prefer to keep some decent ones around. Easily put, I am just saying negotiate the rate instead of launching the attack.

Imagine if the SP's we all see started posting shit about us this way. Old fat feable guy who had a hard time getting it up and then tried to haggle my rate before he paid me? Small dick and definatley no MSOG!

Every day someone here identifies a fake. Why not all us report those ads on BP as inappropriate on the basis of fake. Pretty easy to do and if we do it in force then BP pulls the ad. Pretty soon then, without fuss or muss, only unknowns or legits are left there. Just a thought. I am not attempting to force anyone to agree or participate. I do appreciate your perspectives and respect both of you based on earlier posts and that is why I inquired of your's and other's opinions.

Happy hunting![/QUOTE]Has anyone ever told you that you're brain is small? The post was directed as girls who are fake and girls who are real yet perform not well at all and or try and upcharge you or screw you over? So what you're saying is that you would rather not have this information and get screwed over? The listing is to help other guys like us.

Be aware of what these women do and you can take it or not it's up to you? Better yet Andrew why don't you see every single girl her

Posted and then let us know if what he says is true or not?

As for you posting an example of imagine of SP's started posting stuff about us well uhm they do it's just more private and it's not

On this site. I actually lost any respect for you period a guy is out there spending his money and trying girls out and letting

Other people know and you're sitting there reporting him? Also again if you had a brain you would know that you can report.

BP ads that the girl is fake all you want they won't take them down LOL you have to have proof and well it's a bit hard to say

Oh well I saw her and she doesn't look like that LOL. You really really need to think things through before you type.

So pissed off right now. But it was my own fault. I took my wallet in when I saw her and she stole my money when I was cleaning up in the bathroom. I was given her number by a member here. She has a great body But smell to BO.

So mad that I was so dumb and took my wallet in with me. That's what you get for trusting somebody and not thinking ahead. I saw her today at 10 am.

[QUOTE=Glavius; 1245515]So I know some of us have had are differences and such but I think this will make it up. I saw girl and decided to try her out and eh I must say this is the best Black provider I've ever been with. She charges 1.

50hh but I got her down to 100. She is pretty experienced and well worth it. She stays in an apartment in Lansing over by the Lansing Mall.

She 5 foot 8 and slim! So any of you guys craving for the black loving hit her up! If you want to hook me up say I sent you cause ill get a nice discount next time LOL

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I have been sending her messages calling her a thief and shit.

She just texted me saying she is sorry and will make it right with me, said she will do FS for a discount rate or for free to make it up to me. LOL. No way will I set foot in there again.

Today, I dreamt of Olivia. The dream was just how I imagined it and ended on a great surprise. The dream cost me exactly what the last dream cost me without a problem. She still looks great, but in the dream, she seemed more skilled then when I saw her a while back. With every dream though YMMV. Additionally, at the end of my dream, my wallet was right where I left it.

Not nocking or taking a shot at you "MSUhoops" at all! I hope you clearly get that! I sympathize with anyone that is cheated by a thief or lied to or deceived by fake pictures, and feel that what happened to you is unexcusable and she should never be trusted again.

Have a great day fellas, mine started out right!

This one?

[url]http://lansing.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/blonde-college-cutie-with-amazing-reviews-and-brand-new-pictures-20/6385939[/url]

Good deal. What did it set you back and what was the surprise (PM if you want)?

[QUOTE=Andrew Movado; 1249231]Today, I dreamt of Olivia. The dream was just how I imagined it and ended on a great surprise. The dream cost me exactly what the last dream cost me without a problem. She still looks great, but in the dream, she seemed more skilled then when I saw her a while back. With every dream though YMMV. Additionally, at the end of my dream, my wallet was right where I left it.

Not nocking or taking a shot at you "MSUhoops" at all! I hope you clearly get that! I sympathize with anyone that is cheated by a thief or lied to or deceived by fake pictures, and feel that what happened to you is unexcusable and she should never be trusted again.

Have a great day fellas, mine started out right![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Msuhoops; 1249066]So pissed off right now. But it was my own fault. I took my wallet in when I saw her and she stole my money when I was cleaning up in the bathroom. I was given her number by a member here. She has a great body But smell to BO.

So mad that I was so dumb and took my wallet in with me. That's what you get for trusting somebody and not thinking ahead. I saw her today at 10 am.[/QUOTE]Wow dude I'm sorry I've saw her a few times and she has never stolen from? I just txt'd her and asked her what was up and she said she never stole anything? I dunno? A few guys here have seen her and hadn't had the problem.

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother; 1249252]This one?

[url]http://lansing.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/blonde-college-cutie-with-amazing-reviews-and-brand-new-pictures-20/6385939[/url]

Good deal. What did it set you back and what was the surprise (PM if you want)?[/QUOTE]I've tried Olivia and she is a very pretty girl but isn't worth 300-350$.

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother; 1249252]This one?

[url]http://lansing.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/blonde-college-cutie-with-amazing-reviews-and-brand-new-pictures-20/6385939[/url]

Good deal. What did it set you back and what was the surprise (PM if you want)?[/QUOTE]Twisted Andrew is more than likely going to say he paid more than half less than her rate. Her rate is 300-350 and he will probably tell you he spent like a 100 which he is full of it.

Thanks for the thoughts, Andrew. Sorting out the good and the bad in our hobby is no simple task and full of grey areas instead of black and white. I think those "waste of time" lists that I copied and posted MIGHT be of value, but certainly to take them as gospel might be an error, especially given that we don't know who posted them.

[QUOTE=Andrew Movado; 1248508]Gentlemen, I appreciate your perspectives and to large degree agree. There are a ton of fakes out there. But the posts weren't only directed at fakes. On this board, I find most everyone credible and really appreciate their insight and intel. When Skyman tells me he paid $.20 to an SP asking $$, it makes for an easy negotiation as I know what she'll take. One bargain hunter here shared his technique with me where he says half is all he'll do and hangs up. More times than not, he claims, they call back. The strategy is the stealth. They suspect we all conspire but can't substantiate it. What advantage did we gain from what was posted? If you avoid contact with those providers listed as a result of that posting, then both of you presume the information is factual. How do we know? Does anyone know this individual and can validate their credibility?

This last week on another local board has been a hate fest culminating in a major pissing match between two individuals that likely will result in the departure of the SP. I for one, wanted to experience her. I am not sure, but have strong concerns that she's out of here as a result of the situation. Let's face it, the real, great looking ones can up and move to higher paying markets pretty damn easily. Suddenly all we are left with are the marginal providers charging basement rates yet providing basement services. I can't bail on MI yet, so I'd prefer to keep some decent ones around. Easily put, I am just saying negotiate the rate instead of launching the attack.

Imagine if the SP's we all see started posting shit about us this way. Old fat feable guy who had a hard time getting it up and then tried to haggle my rate before he paid me? Small dick and definatley no MSOG!

Every day someone here identifies a fake. Why not all us report those ads on BP as inappropriate on the basis of fake. Pretty easy to do and if we do it in force then BP pulls the ad. Pretty soon then, without fuss or muss, only unknowns or legits are left there. Just a thought. I am not attempting to force anyone to agree or participate. I do appreciate your perspectives and respect both of you based on earlier posts and that is why I inquired of your's and other's opinions.

Happy hunting![/QUOTE]

I am certainly not the expert and admittedly was too harsh in my reaction to the posting. Given the opportunity, I would react differently next time. I feel my points were justified, but Glavius raised a good point; how dare I interject my actions into someone else's business? For that I apologize. I appreciate the fact that I was able to raise an issue, present my opinion, receive feedback and then formulate a better opinion. By maintaining an open mind, I come out a better monger as a result of it. I also believe that this game is tough enough that we have to stick together, and I will share all that I can with anyone who is interested. If the information is too incriminating for the open board, I will gladly PM it to you.

Should we all hold Glavius responsible for "Tyra's" actions? I don't think so. Do we all get pissed on behalf of Hoops for the actions of a thief? Absolutley! There is a huge power in the brotherhood. By providing information, we can steer and protect each other and keep in check any providers who are out of line. I wanted to see a provider in the worst way, until someone posted here that she wanted to provide some hand job insertion in leiu of FS. Saved me the $$ immediately.

Our group seems to be gaining momentum and I think that is good. I will continue to do my part in that until you all tell me to shut the f*$K up! Glavius, I know your answer so no need to reply!

Be safe and happy hunting!

[QUOTE=TwistedBrother;1249442]Thanks for the thoughts, Andrew. Sorting out the good and the bad in our hobby is no simple task and full of grey areas instead of black and white. I think those "waste of time" lists that I copied and posted MIGHT be of value, but certainly to take them as gospel might be an error, especially given that we don't know who posted them.[/QUOTE]Eh I've looked on here several times and thought about seeing someone and If one person I don't care who it is says something negative well I don't waste my time on the provider. Everyone here thinks I'm a complete prick which is fine cause I am but people still listen to my posts for the most part cause in the end I mean well and we're all on here for the same reason " To help each other make sure we don't get f*cked!" I've tried a few of the providers the guy listed and I agree with him but I don't intend on trying any of them who he posted about. I would rather be safer than sorry and not have that " wow that wasn't worth it at all feeling "