Another Kamp that will be gone by Nov 1st.
Oca, Why would YOU do this?
What could YOU possibly gain?
Why can't YOU, and a few others, learn to use the PM feature?
If YOU had PM'the me and said, "hey Vlad is Palm cool I wanna come up to the SFV? " I would have said, "yeah bro its great. Here is the lowdown. Please, keep it off the thread. Thanks. "
YOU say why PM a local about a spot first?
The answer if YOU cared to ever RTFF is that we have been destroyed by LE here in the SFV!
And not because of the rationale YOU use. That states corrupt cops got Inglewood busted by their actions alone. Wrong!
In the valley the cops go to these places too. And perhaps they do get FS. However, the important thing is that immediately afterwards they bust the joint.
Tragically, its stupid people bringing attention to a "known spot" that causes LE to act. Obviously, its "known" they advertise in the LA weekly.
However, the new smart places are still opening in ghetto areas, are discreet and never draw attention to themselves. Period!
Also, places haven't used the words massage, therapy or health on their facades since atleast 2004 in the SFV. Its kept discreet and off the radar here. These places attempt to blend into their minimall locations. They do not need to be outed on a public forum! They do not need your help OCA in finding clients!
I am going to tell Emu tomorrow to be prepared for being busted any week now. I will tell her why too. Because some lilly ass white boy from the OC decided to blurt out the Name/Location, (he probably would have listed the # if he had it), on a public internet forum!
WTF?
Why must guys like YOU ruin it for those of us who understand discretion, common sense, and integrity?
I was guilty back in '04 of posting about some legendary Chatsworth Kamps. I was an idiot. I was bragging about my conquests w/reckless abandon. I never thought anything of it. This even after Mias was destroyed in '02. How stupid was I?
I had to personally witness the systematic destruction of every "real Kamp" w/in a 20 mile radius of my castle.
Being gangsta and connected I have been fine. Its just been more expensive & complicated to get tang now in the valley. However, its newbies, not me, who have been the ones to suffer. Why? Because they have no scene to even fuck up today.
And sadly its guys like YOU who are to blame for this sad state of affairs.
The more YOU post about anything the more it gets attention. This is bad for us mongers OCA.
Why might YOU inquire is this?
The answer is because this hobby we all love is ILLEGAL!
A fixed location AMP is vulnerable. So remember that while YOU are blabbing all the vital intel YOU have about its dirty deeds.
If its intel about a SW thats different. They are transient in nature. So posting where YOU found her, names, etc is less likely to get her busted.
And finallly, I attacked YOU after YOU posted about this spots name/location on an open thread thats under LE attack!
This is not the first time I have witnessed YOU starting s**t on threads. However, I have refrained from commenting. Always telling myself as long as YOU don't mess w/the SFV thread. So I come home from Vegas to see your post. If ever there was a time to comment its was now!
Good luck SFV newbies. I hooe OCA, and his ilk, can keep ya in tang?
I hope I don't intimidate anyone here. I just keep it honest and real for those mongers who get it!
Late, VDS
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Hi guys,
Just to put this in perspective:
1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.
2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada.
Thanks,
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I agree with Jackson on this
Vlad, I have been in this hobby for a long time as well, a little longer than 20 years in SFV. I've seen a lot of things go down. I had also gotten in trouble once from street action. Since then, I turned to safer spots. I'd hate to see those places go down like you do.
However, as Jackson put it, I'm sure LAPD or PD in any city for that matter knows much more than you or anyone else about these places. If you are talking about businesses that have massage/chiro/accupressure licenses, they need to go through police or health department commission. So the PD has the info in their hands before anyone even finds them. They do make routine trips to check them out after the opening.
And there are few reasons why the heat comes down to these places, as most of you probably know already; neighbor complaints, calls from disgruntled former employees and customers who don't get what they want... trust me, some of asshole do file complaints to PD..., and immigration issues (FED problem). Like the one that took place in SF, LA, and NY. It actually started in NY before coming to Cal.
One of the girls I knew who worked at this huge establishment in NY, that had been a landmark there for a long time, told me one day the FED's came in and literally took everyone including customers. And some media were there taking pictures of the bust. I'm sure FED's or NYPD tipped them in advance to publicize the great work they were doing to get rid of human trafficking sex slaves, which is hilarious. The girl I knew said all of her co-workers came in on their own. She even had a green card.
In my opinion, none of those causes is a direct result of reports on this or any other board. Increased traffic from other forum members who read about a particular place and decide to pay a visit is one that I think may contribute to that a little. But then, the whole purpose of the forum is to share the goods, I thought.
Since I speak the same language, I've talked to and known many AMP owners/managers/girls. Before they open a place they decide whether to go for long term or cash out quickly. So they know what they are getting into. If they decide to go for a short term hit-and-get out plan, they offer FS while long term strategy is to offer HJ or BJ only. The aggressive short term investers are not too concerned about postings on boards. They are more concerned about complaints from neighbors, employees and customers as I mentioned above since LE needs to formally investigate once they receive a complaint.
I don't want to blabber on too long about this. It's basically up to individuals. I can't or won't tell anyone to share info on any place since I haven't been able to do so myself. I haven't had anything worthwhile to post or share unfortunately. Most if not all the places I know have been covered on several boards already before I found them and the only places I can share requires speaking korean. However, I firmly believe that posting on this board doesn't bring down good places by themselves.
Just my opinion.
Just to touch on a few issues for everyone.
First moondr, You do realize that Vice handles prostitution, as well as illegal gambling correct?
Second the Valley is screwed, posting or not LE has nothing better to do.
It is always best to keep down low information exactly that we all remember topanga therapy and the rest.
Finally if you find an AMP, make sure you don't become part of the problem don't park in assigned spaces or in front of other business spots, that pisses people off and they Will call LE you can't do anything about the other two types of losers/mongers those who call le because the girl asked to much or whatever and the loser monger who falls in love with and needs to free her from her captors. These idiots who call le think they are helping, but there screwing someone out of there dream to be in this country. Cause guess what to pay of the debt they owe they do this, once there done they move on, or stay and continue to work and make money and drive rather nice cars with great tit implants and lot's of cash. Guess there real victims there, funny thing is after they pay there debt they continue to work and visit there former employers and have good relations with them. Stop acting like these are victims who unknowingly came here, they were working in there country now there working here and making a million times what they were, I would rather fuck for $100. 00 then 0. 11 cents and a grain of rice, and so would they. If YOU believe LE, you also believe in the mythical weapons in Iraq, and many other bamboozlings, stop falling in love with hookers and figure out when your getting worked.
