Tips, Tricks, Arguing, and Bullshit

[QUOTE=Josh88;2515344]In my experience, every girl I spent from 300-500 for, except one, was GFE in performance with only a few of them a little below expectations in the looks category. There is definitely real quality out there if you want to pay for it. Mostly in other cities. I have been taken in by the dance only / no touching outcall girl too. Anyone of us can get scammed if we don't do our research or we venture into unreviewed territory. For the most part, Mercedes Guy is right.[/QUOTE]You see it all the time. The guys on the streetwalker forum talk about how they are getting "escort quality" at street prices, and how they are getting over on those idiots who pay BP prices. Here the BP guys are talking about how they are getting $300 quality at half the price, but when you look at their posts all you see are "would not repeat".

I have no problem paying $150 and I have no problem paying $350. But I know the difference. And if I buy a Mercedes I do my automotive research, I get it checked by a mechanic, and I am sure it performs the way it should before I buy. Of course, if you are in the "hole is hole" crowd any $60 crack ho will do.

[QUOTE=Josh88;2515344]In my experience, every girl I spent from 300-500 for, except one, was GFE in performance with only a few of them a little below expectations in the looks category. There is definitely real quality out there if you want to pay for it. Mostly in other cities. I have been taken in by the dance only / no touching outcall girl too. Anyone of us can get scammed if we don't do our research or we venture into unreviewed territory. For the most part, Mercedes Guy is right.[/QUOTE]Mostly in other cities? Yea I'm pretty sure $500 in Cali or Chi is alot different than CBUS. Would you pay $1000 for those moonlite bunny ranch SPs or any other Vegas brothel SPs? I mean by that standard they should be the greatest of all time.

[QUOTE=BusterCapp;2516022]You see it all the time. The guys on the streetwalker forum talk about how they are getting "escort quality" at street prices, and how they are getting over on those idiots who pay BP prices. Here the BP guys are talking about how they are getting $300 quality at half the price, but when you look at their posts all you see are "would not repeat".

I have no problem paying $150 and I have no problem paying $350. But I know the difference. And if I buy a Mercedes I do my automotive research, I get it checked by a mechanic, and I am sure it performs the way it should before I buy. Of course, if you are in the "hole is hole" crowd any $60 crack ho will do.[/QUOTE]LOL. Bit of a deviation from your original stance. Now you would get your Mercedes checked out by a mechanic? I thought the high dollar standard was absolute? Also if all $60 dollar girls are crack hos then does that make all $300 hos coke ******? Because we are absolutely sure that they don't abuse any substances at all? Just like the paying a higher price in and of it itself was suppose to be a fool proof way to get better " service" Maybe you are simply conflating better looking with better service? How many of these guys go on and on about Kay Kay or that other skinny one cake / Sailor??Based on what I have read a healthy number of these guys like the more average curvy SPs with "mommy bellies" So by them charging less the service is somehow inferior? Even if so many of girls have ohTER reviews to back the up?

[QUOTE=JCags100;2516239]LOL. Bit of a deviation from your original stance. Now you would get your Mercedes checked out by a mechanic? I thought the high dollar standard was absolute? Also if all $60 dollar girls are crack hos then does that make all $300 hos coke ******? Because we are absolutely sure that they don't abuse any substances at all? Just like the paying a higher price in and of it itself was suppose to be a fool proof way to get better " service" Maybe you are simply conflating better looking with better service? How many of these guys go on and on about Kay Kay or that other skinny one cake / Sailor??Based on what I have read a healthy number of these guys like the more average curvy SPs with "mommy bellies" So by them charging less the service is somehow inferior? Even if so many of girls have ohTER reviews to back the up?[/QUOTE]Although I think Sailor & Kay Kay are both solid providers and better than average looking, IMO they are not $300+ providers. They are priced about right for being volume based providers. I myself am happy doing the high 5's to high 6's in looks that I am usually doing locally, with an occasional 7 that comes by on a rare occasion. However, I am very willing to pay $300+ for the better looking, hard bodied, girls you can find in other cities, who perform just as well as the local favorites.

Note: I am fully aware that no ladies will read this, nor will it change anything. I'm free to hobby today, but can't find a trusted regular whose schedule matches mine, and in the current atmosphere, not wanting to chase strange so I am cranky.

I've seen this happen before, where girls start using a "free" escort web site system, and suddenly their galleries are behind pay walls. Many "escortfiles" and "escort web design" sites are suffering from this of late. In fact, there are a couple of girls sites that used to have open photos, but now the pics are behind a pay wall. However, there are some ladies on those sites whose pics still are freely available. I'm guessing those girls pay for the privilege of having open photos, so we mongers don't have to pay to see them.

Don't care why it's that way. Ladies, if you put your pics behind a pay wall, I'm not coming to see you. I don't pay to look at the pics when I am online shopping for a car, bike, or house, why would I do it for you? Plus, if I did want to pay to see nekkid chick pics, there are a lot of porn babes out there who are hotter than you. Hell, if that's all I want, I can look at Pornhub all day for free.

Rant over. Fuck, I need to get laid. (But I still want to see what you look like before I knock on your door.).

[QUOTE=JCags100;2516239]LOL. Bit of a deviation from your original stance. Now you would get your Mercedes checked out by a mechanic? I thought the high dollar standard was absolute? Also if all $60 dollar girls are crack hos then does that make all $300 hos coke ******? Because we are absolutely sure that they don't abuse any substances at all? Just like the paying a higher price in and of it itself was suppose to be a fool proof way to get better " service" Maybe you are simply conflating better looking with better service? How many of these guys go on and on about Kay Kay or that other skinny one cake / Sailor??Based on what I have read a healthy number of these guys like the more average curvy SPs with "mommy bellies" So by them charging less the service is somehow inferior? Even if so many of girls have ohTER reviews to back the up?[/QUOTE]Thanks for totally making shit up that I never said. There are no guarantees in this business, and anyone hobbying anywhere in any price range should always do his research. I never said a high dollar standard was absolute. You or someone else said that there is NO relationship between price and quality, and that other guys shouldn't pay those prices because somehow it would convince the average BP ho to raise her rates. That is a load of crap.

As far as conflating better looks with better service, looks and service both determine rate. Better looking girls charge more than uglier girls, and guys gladly pay them more. That is the way things are, in case that is news to you. Do you honestly believe guys like mommy belly? Are you fucking nuts? Have you ever heard of a guy complaining that a girl had a tight, toned body, so he wouldn't repeat? I don't mean anorexic; I mean lean and healthy. That is the gold standard. There may be BBW lovers or whatever, but they are the minority. Guys tolerate mommy belly because they can't find or don't want to pay a good-looking woman with a great body.

Girls who want to charge $300 and up should be good-looking, unmarked (and I don't mean tats), provide excellent service, have a clean and attractive incall with amenities, and dress attractively. If their clients have specific requests they should accommodate them. Their phones should be off, they shouldn't be smoking, and they should be ready, willing, and able to work the full time. If you go to see Eva Loren (for example) that is what you will get. There are a handful of others who meet that standard. Some guys may be fine with a QV with a girl who pulls down her sweatpants in a Motel 6, but that is no way the same experience. Guys who spend the money on Eva or those select others get a great experience that is well worth what they pay.

I am glad to play at both ends of the spectrum, and sometimes a HH with a decent BP girl is just fine. I don't confuse that with what I get when I go for the high end. Sorry if you don't get the difference.

[QUOTE=Digger47;2524044]Had a little free time and decided to do a little recon on Wed night between 7:30 and 9:30. Started East on Livingston from Children's and must have seen at least 8-9 SW split evenly on both sides of the street in the first mile. Turned around and headed for Broad. First cruise all the way down Broad turned up nothing of interest at all traveling all the way to Georgesville. Circled around and down Sully and only saw 3-4. All looked cranked up on candy acting like zombies. Circled around back to W. Broad and again to Georgesville Road. Just 2-3 that I would never have stopped for at all. Got to Georgesville again, saw the Casino and thought I might run in and try my luck for an hour or so. Pulled into the parking lot and saw a very attractive, blonde walking across the lot heading for the car parked near me. Probably about 30, dressed nicely, great figure wearing a thin halter top with no bra (the nipples were sticking straight out) and a pair of tight fitting knee length shorts framing a great ass. I looked over and smiled at her and she walked right over to my car. I said hi and asked how it had gone for her in the Casino. She replied that she had lost and had no cash left at all. After some other small talk, she suggested that if I could help her out with 50, she would be ever so grateful so she could go back and try to win back her losses. I told her that I would be more than willing to help her out is she made me happy. She jumped in on the passenger side of the car, untied the back of her halter top and showed me a gorgeous set of 38 see's that stood straight out with no man-made help and a great set of little finger thick nipples about an inch long. I was wearing a t-shirt and jogging shorts which were quickly pulled down to my knees and she proceeded to give me some great head and was more than willing to follow directions. After about five minutes of that, she looked up and said "Fuck it, I need to be happy too and she slipped out of her shorts and climbed on top of me riding my cock like it was the last one in the world. Fortunately, we both got our nut at almost the same time and then she just sat there until the Johnson went to sleep and she let it slip out of her. She quickly pulled up her shorts after a quick clean up with some Kleenex that I keep in the car and I pulled mine up as well. I gave her a well deserved bill and asked her for her number. She laughed and said that this was not the norm for her and her husband wouldn't appreciate her receiving any calls but since she is somewhat of a regular at the Casino, if we run into each other again, since we were as she put it, sexually compatible, she would be open to a trip to the parking lot again. Needless to say, I will certainly be going to the Casino a little more frequently now. Oh, as you can imagine, she would not allow a pic either. Which I certainly understood. Now it makes me wonder if the Casino would not be the place to find some UTR women who had a string of bad luck at the slots and don't want to go home empty handed. Just saying.[/QUOTE]I just don't buy this story. With all the cameras in that lot, the security, the police, and the uc they have there. Just find it hard to buy. But if it did. Kudos to you. Big balls to be mongering on camera. LOL.

[QUOTE=Dapon;2524796]I just don't buy this story. With all the cameras in that lot, the security, the police, and the uc they have there. Just find it hard to buy. But if it did. Kudos to you. Big balls to be mongering on camera. LOL.[/QUOTE]Don't really care whether or not you buy it and I think it takes a lot of balls to call someone out as a liar without any proof. You may think what you want, I do know what happened so your opinion matters not to me. Have a good day.

[QUOTE=Dapon;2524796]I just don't buy this story. With all the cameras in that lot, the security, the police, and the uc they have there. Just find it hard to buy. But if it did. Kudos to you. Big balls to be mongering on camera. LOL.[/QUOTE]I'm a regular at the casino, there daily. Its not uncommon for people to be out in the parking lot or in the garage doing it, I have seen it many times. Heck, I have seen couples go into the "family" restroom and you knew what was going on. Also, I will say it is not uncommon for the CPD or casino security to bust people doing this, I have a friend who works security there and he tells me many stories.

[QUOTE=Digger47;2525212]Don't really care whether or not you buy it and I think it takes a lot of balls to call someone out as a liar without any proof. You may think what you want, I do know what happened so your opinion matters not to me. Have a good day.[/QUOTE]I never called you a liar. Just being a regular at the Casino, it just doesn't add up. That's all. There are plenty of guys on this board stretching the truth in their reports for reasons unknown to me. One that posts pics on a regular basis does it for a fact that I know. If you did score that at the casino, like I said, good for you! Pretty big balls considering the cameras everywhere and the security.

[QUOTE=JustHereNow;2525403]Also, I will say it is not uncommon for the CPD or casino security to bust people doing this, I have a friend who works security there and he tells me many stories.[/QUOTE]This would be my fear. I guess anywhere in public is wreck-less, so that makes me so. But with so much security there. Seems even more ballsy. LOL I guess if hot ho's are strolling the parking lot, I will keep my eye peeled. I just always see dumpy old ladies going in for the penny slots. LOL.

[QUOTE=Dapon;2525495] There are plenty of guys on this board stretching the truth in their reports for reasons unknown to me. One that posts pics on a regular basis does it for a fact that I know.[/QUOTE]This is so true, makes no sense and a waste of time and internet space.

[QUOTE=Dapon;2525824]This would be my fear. I guess anywhere in public is wreck-less, so that makes me so. But with so much security there. Seems even more ballsy. LOL I guess if hot ho's are strolling the parking lot, I will keep my eye peeled. I just always see dumpy old ladies going in for the penny slots. LOL.[/QUOTE]Maybe your problem is that you are jealous that it's only the dumpy old ladies that will give you the time of day. I never said this woman was a ho or a pro. But you can go ahead and be the "critic" of this medium if you like. It must be wonderful to sit there and judge other people or throw out your midguided opinions without any factual knowledge. Maybe in your life you have nothing better to do. There is one fact that you are sadly mistaken on. As the other gentleman stated who apparently knows what he is talking about, this goes on all the time at the Casino. But not with the dumpy old ladies that you apparently attract. Good day sir.

[QUOTE=Digger47;2526426]Maybe your problem is that you are jealous that it's only the dumpy old ladies that will give you the time of day. I never said this woman was a ho or a pro. But you can go ahead and be the "critic" of this medium if you like. It must be wonderful to sit there and judge other people or throw out your midguided opinions without any factual knowledge. Maybe in your life you have nothing better to do. There is one fact that you are sadly mistaken on. As the other gentleman stated who apparently knows what he is talking about, this goes on all the time at the Casino. But not with the dumpy old ladies that you apparently attract. Good day sir.[/QUOTE]The casino gets a lot of Sully girls and other street walker types, Iv been propositioned many times. The casino has a rather large staff on duty and I know they have CPD working the property at night, I would not want to be one of the ones picked up for it, I like gambling to much to be kicked off casino property and that is what the casino will do on top of the criminal charges CPD can file.

[QUOTE=Digger47;2526426]Maybe your problem is that you are jealous that it's only the dumpy old ladies that will give you the time of day. I never said this woman was a ho or a pro. But you can go ahead and be the "critic" of this medium if you like. It must be wonderful to sit there and judge other people or throw out your midguided opinions without any factual knowledge. Maybe in your life you have nothing better to do. There is one fact that you are sadly mistaken on. As the other gentleman stated who apparently knows what he is talking about, this goes on all the time at the Casino. But not with the dumpy old ladies that you apparently attract. Good day sir.[/QUOTE]You posted about her on here = ho.

You paid to have sex with her = ho.

As for my opinion. I think you are full of it. Thats my opinion. You got called out by another on the Livingston Ave ho's. Where is your outrage there?

Your whole report just didn't ad up to some of us more experienced mongers. Thats all.