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Apparently for good.
Starting now.
Was also told this was happening for all strip clubs in Detroit.
Can anyone confirm this.
[QUOTE=TomSmith26;3691246]Was also told this was happening for all strip clubs in Detroit.
Can anyone confirm this.[/QUOTE]This has been going on for awhile now, it will only be a matter of time before things are back to normal.
[QUOTE=Devin226;3690783]We paid $20 for the lower-level booths for years, any day of the week. Took a little break from this place. Came back 3 months ago and bouncer kept trying to charge us $30 for the booth on the weekends. Took another break, and came back this week, and bouncer charged us $40 for the booth on the weekends. Is it actually $40 for a booth now? Seems pretty expensive considering half of the booths were empty.[/QUOTE]This has been the policy at BT's for years. 20 during the week but the price goes up during the week end.
[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3691074]I have never used a booth, so I don't know about increasing prices; but could someone tell me what benefits or advantage accrues when you get a booth? Besides a more comfortable seat.[/QUOTE]Some guys think getting a booth or wearing a Rolex is going to impress the dancers, all it really does is raise her price.
[QUOTE=Fast69;3690705]Nobody's been to Centerfold? Can't find any Intel on it. Can anyone help?[/QUOTE]There's a reason why clubs like Centerfold or the Play House don't get any reviews on any site, they suck.
[QUOTE=TomSmith26;3691246]Was also told this was happening for all strip clubs in Detroit.
Can anyone confirm this.[/QUOTE]It was bound to happen. The Detroit City Club Ordinance says VIP areas must be free of an obstruction. That isn't the exact phrasing though.
Having no curtains hasn't stopped girls at Legends and I'm sure the girls at PHC will also continue their adventures in VIP without curtains.
Went to Silver Criket on Saturday afternoon. There was really only one I was interested in, but she made up for the rest. Probably about 40 with huge tits, and flirty. She was a 10 in my book. Unsurprisingly, she got a lot of attention, but I waited around and finally she came over. She wanted $200 for FS and wouldn't budge, and I did go with the FS. Her other option was BJ+Titty Fuck for $150. That's quite a bit more than the usual at Silver Criket, but she can demand that kind of price.
She did a little lap dance to warm up. She started to do a BJ without a cover, for those who are interested in that. I played with her pussy which was already wet and then took her from behind and in missionary. I busted sooner than I wanted to, but I think it was worth the $200. I'll be back for her.
[QUOTE=Checkers123;3691366]There's a reason why clubs like Centerfold or the Play House don't get any reviews on any site, they suck.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Fast69;3690705]Nobody's been to Centerfold? Can't find any Intel on it. Can anyone help?[/QUOTE]I went there about a month ago on a Friday right after work. There is a MILF bolt on dancer that has been there forever. She's OK but just isn't my type. There were 2 other dancers that I just wasn't interested in and one above average looking bruenette dancer that I forget her name. I didn't get any dances but if I did it would be that bruenette dancer. There was a 2 parking charge (not a valet), no cover charge, beer was about 6 bucks and I want to say there was no smoking. A typical relaxing blue collar type bar where they didn't push drinks on you. Also, it there were may be around 10 customers in the place.
[QUOTE=Checkers123;3689549]More guys need to just walk away when they get a bad vibe from a dancer. Nice job Time Twist.[/QUOTE]Yeah be careful, she did keep lowering the rate when I said no way, and she did come down to an almost reasonable rate, but as her rates went down her phrasing changed, which was a big tell.
I haven't been to a strip club in a long time but used to go to them alot. I never got anything extra other than a wet finger but truthfully I never really thought they did that stuff.
Anyway my question is how do you bring this up? Do you wait a while? Get a dance first or do you just come right out with what you want? I was dumb back then but I can honestly say I don't think I was ever offered extras.
[QUOTE=RichChristy;3693197]I haven't been to a strip club in a long time but used to go to them alot. I never got anything extra other than a wet finger but truthfully I never really thought they did that stuff.
Anyway my question is how do you bring this up? Do you wait a while? Get a dance first or do you just come right out with what you want? I was dumb back then but I can honestly say I don't think I was ever offered extras.[/QUOTE]Call her over to your table. That is, if she doesn't come over first. Tell her what you want and negotiate the price before you go back to VIP. Pay when you are finished and NOT before. Any questions?
[QUOTE=TomSmith26;3691240]Apparently for good.
Starting now.[/QUOTE]That sucks.
I was living here when the Hustler Club had doors on their VIP. Good times. I moved away for a number of years and came back to the area in late 2016. Only to find the doors removed. Now PHC?
I haven't been to the Coliseum in years. Can you still have fun in the VIP there?
[QUOTE=JoeDocks11;3693220]Call her over to your table. That is, if she doesn't come over first. Tell her what you want and negotiate the price before you go back to VIP. Pay when you are finished and NOT before. Any questions?[/QUOTE]And to the point. Great answer!
[QUOTE=RichChristy;3693197]I haven't been to a strip club in a long time but used to go to them alot. I never got anything extra other than a wet finger but truthfully I never really thought they did that stuff.
Anyway my question is how do you bring this up? Do you wait a while? Get a dance first or do you just come right out with what you want? I was dumb back then but I can honestly say I don't think I was ever offered extras.[/QUOTE]Ages ago, I was the same as you. I had no idea that "extras" were available, let alone offered.
Then one fateful day, I was on a lunch outing away from the office, and a girl named Amy provided services next to the runway in Chix on Dix before we even got out of our chairs. Once we were in the VIP, she barely waited for my assent before starting on me again. Since then, I have always been offered extras, such that they seem to be the normal offering and not extra at all.
[QUOTE=Riddick1983;3693496]That sucks.
I was living here when the Hustler Club had doors on their VIP. Good times. I moved away for a number of years and came back to the area in late 2016. Only to find the doors removed. Now PHC?
I haven't been to the Coliseum in years. Can you still have fun in the VIP there?[/QUOTE]If you guys could confirm or deny the curtain rumors at as many clubs as possible that would be great. I'm coming to town next weekend so this will affect things for me if it's true.
[QUOTE=PowerHouse1;3689320]I've gotten dances from her. Didn't do extras but although her dances are good she will count more songs than you did so watch out for this one.[/QUOTE]Stripper math. Been there done that. Make them count out loud after each song.
How bad do you guys think Friday is going to be at the metro clubs? Thinking of hitting flight club Friday but the auto show has me thinking prices are going to go through the roof. Flight club has been great lately saw a brunette with tons of ink huge naturals last week. Good times.
Was at a club the other day and kept on getting the sales pitches from every girl coming by. One came by one too many times and when she asked if I was waiting on someone I said "yes, I'm waiting on a girl that I've done before". This is something that you tell your buddy at the bar, point out the stripper and say 'I did her before'. It just came out before I could stop it. Funny thing was this girl was one who kept promising we'd negotiate in the VIP. Soon as she heard me say that her attitude changed and she said something along the lines of 'that's disgusting' and stormed off. Guess the answer on extra's was a big NO.
[QUOTE=PowerHouse1;3689320]I've gotten dances from her. Didn't do extras but although her dances are good she will count more songs than you did so watch out for this one.[/QUOTE]I love the girls who don't do extra's but will quickly get naked, lay on the back of the couch and let you eat them out (or more).
[QUOTE=RichChristy;3693197]I haven't been to a strip club in a long time but used to go to them alot. I never got anything extra other than a wet finger but truthfully I never really thought they did that stuff.
Anyway my question is how do you bring this up? Do you wait a while? Get a dance first or do you just come right out with what you want? I was dumb back then but I can honestly say I don't think I was ever offered extras.[/QUOTE]Wait on a girl to stop by (or tip her on stage and tell her to stop by after). Then once she brings up the topic of dances, ask something like "Do you only offer dances?" From there, you'll either get a "Yes" or a "What are you looking for?
Wouldn't recommend getting a dance first unless you actually want one. That's an expensive way to get a bad answer.
Anyone have any intel on this place? I haven't read anything in a while, which may be tell-tale. Do they still have curtains? Any mileage? Thinking about visiting.
[QUOTE=RichChristy;3693197]I haven't been to a strip club in a long time but used to go to them alot. I never got anything extra other than a wet finger but truthfully I never really thought they did that stuff.
Anyway my question is how do you bring this up? Do you wait a while? Get a dance first or do you just come right out with what you want? I was dumb back then but I can honestly say I don't think I was ever offered extras.[/QUOTE]I should qualify my first response, which seems a little flip upon rereading: my total experience getting extras in the clubs has been limited to what I call "blue-collar" clubs -- Chix on Dix (now gone), Atlantis (ditto), Venus (closed but allegedly "opening soon" Criket, and Bogart's; I have been offered extras at Flight Club and at Henry VIII North, but declined (was quoted two hundred for BJ at the former, and arranged for OTC instead at the latter).
I have rarely visited the higher-end clubs and have never paid for more than a dance when I did visit. Too rich for my taste. And honestly, I like the atmosphere of the lower end clubs. Everyone knows why we are there, so there doesn't need to be any pretense. When a girl sits down next to me and asks if I want to join her in VIP for fun, I ask her if she minds if I tell her explicitly what I want. They always agree to listen, and they always appreciate my candor, and respectfulness. I explain what I expect and what I am willing to spend. And, at the blue-collar clubs, I can expect that one to one and a half will get me everything I ask. More expensive than that, I expect to have an hour on a large bed with an escort.
I have been pretty regular here in day shift. Night shift seems to get crazy so I avoid it if I can. Girls are friendly when they know you. Most girls tend to flock to their regulars unless you tip them on stage to grab attention. Even then some may still Ignore you.
Food is always great and bartenders in the back bar are the best. Jenna is fun to talk to and will show you her Boltons for 20 $ tip. The front bar bartenders take forever to come back and check up on you.
Wide open menu with most girls except a few. Some may come very expensive but always negotiable. Alvana a very attractive brunette is a great dancer but hasn't provided anything more than just dances. She will try to convince you otherwise to take you to VIP. Trinity and Dakota are my favorites. Both brunette, natural body, small tits with good size ass. Trinity used to be BJ only, but recently started doing CFS. Trinity may give BJ without cover if she like you, so highly YMMV. Dakota does CBJ and CFS. Both charge $$ for FS.
There are plenty of more girls to choose from, but not everyone there are consistent. But like I said few of the girls their I see regularly but wouldn't come see me even after I tip them. Multiple times because of regulars.
This is one of the best clubs to go to with the exception of flight club as I haven't had the chance to visit there yet. Coli is like PH with friendlier girls who attend to you and cheaper prices on the menu.
The Lady Tonya text' me will be at FC 6:30 Pm after her clinicals today. Now that's worth stopping by for she is a package of Grace and Pleasure.
See you fellas 2nd floor YES!
Columbus.
[QUOTE=TomSmith26;3691246]Was also told this was happening for all strip clubs in Detroit.
Can anyone confirm this.[/QUOTE]If that's the case it could mean some of the high talent at PH will be moving to different pastures with different prices.
JJ is 23 yr ebony / ivory mix curly brown hair with natural C-cup tits and a nice booty. Pocahontas is 22 yr ebony / Native American mix with natural C-cup tits. The second attached picture is from when Pocahontas did porn in Miami a year or two ago. I've enjoyed GFE VIP sessions with each of these girls for a 110 ish.
Looking to head out tonight for some extra action in the downriver area, never been to FC as it always seemed $$ but Bogarts, B. T. s, and Cricket are on the menu. Anyone have any personal faves or tips lets hear it. Never made an attempt at the clubs before.
[QUOTE=Devin226;3690783]We paid $20 for the lower-level booths for years, any day of the week. Took a little break from this place. Came back 3 months ago and bouncer kept trying to charge us $30 for the booth on the weekends. Took another break, and came back this week, and bouncer charged us $40 for the booth on the weekends. Is it actually $40 for a booth now? Seems pretty expensive considering half of the booths were empty.[/QUOTE]I have also heard that they are now charging you $10 just to sit and the tables on the floor now too on Friday and Saturday nights. That the only free seating in the place on now the weekends is at the bar. I haven't been in there in a while so I don't know from sure. That is just what I was told by friend that visits there often.
[QUOTE=MilkMan2484;3697489]I have also heard that they are now charging you $10 just to sit and the tables on the floor now too on Friday and Saturday nights. That the only free seating in the place on now the weekends is at the bar. I haven't been in there in a while so I don't know from sure. That is just what I was told by friend that visits there often.[/QUOTE]I was actually at BT's Dearborn the week of thanksgiving and the male bartender charged me 8 bucks for a club soda. Even the girl who I ended up going in the VIP with was blown away by that. Told her I only came in with X amount and that the drink prices ate into her profits. The girl bartender there who seems to know me by now is pretty lenient on pricing and I tip her accordingly.
The girls there are so hit or miss. Seems only the strung out ones are the only reasonable ones. Found a tiny mixed spinner a few months back willing to do everything for 2 but everything was covered. I feel like I should give Silver Cricket a try this weekend or something.
[QUOTE=BumLick1;3697847]I was actually at BT's Dearborn the week of thanksgiving and the male bartender charged me 8 bucks for a club soda. Even the girl who I ended up going in the VIP with was blown away by that. Told her I only came in with X amount and that the drink prices ate into her profits. The girl bartender there who seems to know me by now is pretty lenient on pricing and I tip her accordingly.
The girls there are so hit or miss. Seems only the strung out ones are the only reasonable ones. Found a tiny mixed spinner a few months back willing to do everything for 2 but everything was covered. I feel like I should give Silver Cricket a try this weekend or something.[/QUOTE]I can vouch for the $8 charge for non-alcohol at BT's. Cost me the same yesterday (Jan. 20) when I was in for my monthly visit. Was $1.5 for BBBJ / CFS. Found nice AA girl who said, "I'm here to please you. " (Yes! Young lady was part of the "itty-bitty titty" group, but made up for it with a phenomenal ass and legs. Told me she "took her time " and doesn't rush--and she didn't. Fulfilled my request and then some.
[QUOTE=MilkMan2484;3697489]I have also heard that they are now charging you $10 just to sit and the tables on the floor now too on Friday and Saturday nights. That the only free seating in the place on now the weekends is at the bar. I haven't been in there in a while so I don't know from sure. That is just what I was told by friend that visits there often.[/QUOTE]I sit at the bar whenever I go to BT's. It appears so do most of the unoccupied ladies, although if they've seen you before, or want to meet you, they make the effort to walk by.
[QUOTE=TomSmith26;3691246]Was also told this was happening for all strip clubs in Detroit.
Can anyone confirm this.[/QUOTE]I can confirm that there is a major crackdown by police vice at the Detroit strip clubs. Some of the recent talent I've met at BT's have stated they've left Detroit clubs recently because of it.
[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3695692]I have rarely visited the higher-end clubs and have never paid for more than a dance when I did visit. Too rich for my taste. And honestly, I like the atmosphere of the lower end clubs. Everyone knows why we are there, so there doesn't need to be any pretense. When a girl sits down next to me and asks if I want to join her in VIP for fun, I ask her if she minds if I tell her explicitly what I want. They always agree to listen, and they always appreciate my candor, and respectfulness. I explain what I expect and what I am willing to spend. And, at the blue-collar clubs, I can expect that one to one and a half will get me everything I ask. More expensive than that, I expect to have an hour on a large bed with an escort.[/QUOTE]For me at least, I have to say "yes and no" to some of your statement. You are absolutely correct about the higher-end clubs. More than a few of the ladies believe they have the "golden pussy" and should receive remuneration as such. But I've found that if you see one that is sitting on their ass at the bar or looks just plain bored because they ain't getting tips, they are more than willing to negotiate. Yes, you're correct about the "blue-collar" clubs. But I find ladies there can haggle to much, I. E, try to nit-pick you for $10-$20 more. As always, I stand firm for what I can afford AND are willing to pay (willing to pay less than what I can afford). In both type of clubs, I've had ladies that want to negotiate in the VIP, and not before. I've always refuse that (well, at least I did till I went to VIP one time with Erica at BT's--big mistake).
The booths are all too small. You've got to find a lady who's a contortionist (you need to be as well) to make things work sometimes. But boy when it does, it brings a smile to your face and a helluva memory.
A stripper at BT's told me there is nude dancing at Pantheon Club. Any confirmation of this?
[QUOTE=BumLick1;3697847]I was actually at BT's Dearborn the week of thanksgiving and the male bartender charged me 8 bucks for a club soda. Even the girl who I ended up going in the VIP with was blown away by that. Told her I only came in with X amount and that the drink prices ate into her profits. The girl bartender there who seems to know me by now is pretty lenient on pricing and I tip her accordingly.
The girls there are so hit or miss. Seems only the strung out ones are the only reasonable ones. Found a tiny mixed spinner a few months back willing to do everything for 2 but everything was covered. I feel like I should give Silver Cricket a try this weekend or something.[/QUOTE]200? You need to cut that in half.
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Sounds like good news , if that's the case it could mean some of the high talent at PH will be moving to different pastures with different prices.[/QUOTE]You do realize that if Detroit city bars stop allowing extras, Detroit metro bars will just raise their prices, and so will the girls. Right now there are a handful of VIP bars, if half of those bars stops allowing extras the other half will raise their prices, it's called supply and demand. The supply goes down, the demand stays the same but the prices go up.
[QUOTE=IMonger2;3695390]Anyone have any intel on this place? I haven't read anything in a while, which may be tell-tale. Do they still have curtains? Any mileage? Thinking about visiting.[/QUOTE]The last time I was there (3 months ago), no and no.
[QUOTE=Checkers123;3698280]You do realize that if Detroit city bars stop allowing extras, Detroit metro bars will just raise their prices, and so will the girls. Right now there are a handful of VIP bars, if half of those bars stops allowing extras the other half will raise their prices, it's called supply and demand. The supply goes down, the demand stays the same but the prices go up.[/QUOTE]Not necessarily. The supply would be the girls that provide the service would probably flock to the strip clubs outside of Detroit. While the physical space has diminished, I. E. , the number of strip bars providing extras, it doesn't necessary mean that the other bars stop providing extras. Now the supply and quality of girls may change across all the strip clubs, I. E. , blue collar vs. VIP, but that price differentiation already existed (I'm somewhat of a skeptic when I hear some of the "bargain basement" prices reported here at VIP clubs--but that's just me). You might see days when 12-15 girls are on days and double that number on nights (ah the good ole days). Assuming just a shift in supply, the more girls, the downward shift in the pricing for extras because of competition. I'm assuming this because all other factors are constant that impact demand. If there's a simultaneous shift in supply and demand, then it harder to gauge (some consumers forced out because of an increase in extra fees or bar prices).
Any how, I think some shift is definitely possible, but on the margins and not to the extremely. Then again, its all about how consumers respond to price changes. If people stop coming to the strip clubs, then they're out of business. Only time will tell.
So, the other morning listening to talk radio there was a report and interview w / chief Craig regarding new Federal $$$ that will be used to target strip clubs for sex trafficking arrests.