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Cookie,
I have been looking at your pictures for years. You have proven yourself to be king of the ave.
My question is this: What is a photo session with the girls likely to cost. I generally know the price for services, so I know when I am being scammed. But what is the acceptable range for photos? I would have no idea what is the going rate.
I've been interested in that too myself.
I was wondering that also.
[QUOTE=Nats Nats;1195525]I was wondering that also.[/QUOTE]
[size=3][b] Why?[/b][/size]
Why? Are you just curious? Is there a specific reason for your wondering about what I do?
CookyJar
[QUOTE=Jicarlo;1194310]I've been interested in that too myself.[/QUOTE]
[size=3][b] Why? [/b][/size]
Why? What is your interest in knowing my personal business? Are you interested in doing something similar to what I do?
CookyJar
[QUOTE=Lost Philly;1194076]Cookie,
I have been looking at your pictures for years. You have proven yourself to be king of the ave.
My question is this: What is a photo session with the girls likely to cost. I generally know the price for services, so I know when I am being scammed. But what is the acceptable range for photos? I would have no idea what is the going rate.[/QUOTE]
[size=3][b] Why? [/b][/size]
I have been posting on this site since 2006. I have posted over 8,000 photos and they have been viewed over 1,167,612 times. I have made over 2,700 report/comments.
Somewhere, within the above statistics, your question has been asked and answered many times. I am not suggesting that you weed though 2,700 post. Unless you have a really specific reason, like you are IRS or LE, it would be a waste of you time. If what you are looking for are guide-lines in helping your mongering, I would suggest you forget it. What I am able to do is the results of years of trial and error, an established reputation and my own personal technique. Over the years, I have developed a pitch or what salesmen/and hustlers call a spill – a sales pitch. I have also developed guide lines and limits; limits too which I will not go beyond.
I am assuming that your reason for asking is so that you can add photography to your repertoire. If your interest is based on a desire to do something similar to what I do; I can only suggest that you continue to do exactly what you are doing now, just included pictures in the bargaining process. If you do decide to take a few pictures; I suggest that you be honest with the girls. Tell them what you intend to do with the pictures.
To date, no one who has asked for my advice on taking pictures has thanked me and gone on to contribute photos. If you need to ask, then it is probably not within your means.
I hope this helps.
I cannot divulge secrets between my models and myself. I certainly cannot pass on any monetary amounts or disclose any compensatory transactions. [size=3][b] Why? [/b][/size] [b] Because, I do not pay for pussy. Paying for sex is illegal. I am a law abiding citizen and I would never break the law by contributing to prostitution. [/b]
:)
CookyJar
[QUOTE=CookyJar; 1190183]When the photo session is fun, light and easy, it usually carries over into the sex. That's the way I like it. Both girls did their thing. It was like being on two separate dates, at the same time. It's better when the two girls cooperate with each other.
CookyJar[/QUOTE]I can't believe them getting upset with the king. He has every right to say what he wants to or not. If you really wanted to get help you would have PM the king and not put it as a post. I just know that I needed some help and I looked for the information by advanced search. I believe some want it easy for them without doing any work. This is a sharing forum a little given and a little taken. Sorry that they got upset with you but tuff. Keep them coming I still enjoy your pics.
[QUOTE=Phillyewe;1196856]I write in support of Lost Philly, Nats Nats, and Jicarlo. The reason I do is that they understand the purpose for which Jackson created this forum, which is to facilitate the exchange of information among men looking for sex with women. Their question is VERY reasonable in that context.
…Those responses are self-centered, bordering on antagonistic. If a person has posted 8000 photos and is unwilling to respond to another member's plea to avoid being scammed, or is unwilling to give guidelines on the acceptable price range, or is unwilling to give an idea of the going rate, then he is not acting in accordance with the mission of this forum. [/QUOTE]
The question is VERY reasonable, to you. So you answer it.
Antagonistic? Maybe a little. I get asked a lot of the same questions, over and over again. It is frustrating to have to respond to the same questions, again and again. So if my response seemed a little antagonistic, I apologize. But! Self-centered? That’s bull.
I have posted 8,000 pictures of girls who were and/or are walking the streets or Philadelphia and Camden. With most of these pictures I posted a review and/or comment which included detailed descriptive information. You are not satisfied with this, you want more. I would have thought the pictures would be enough. But no! You want more. You want me to tell you everything, answer all you questions and divulge my every secret, upon demand. Three thousand pictures and 2,700 reports are not enough. I guess I just don’t get the mission of this forum. Hmmmmmmmmmmm! I wonder why the forum administrator has not said something about this. After all, he is the one who made up the rules and he is the one letting me post. Maybe you should report me. :)
No one else is on here telling their business. Sure, a few guys spend roses, dollar signs ($$) or died Presidents (Benjamins). Oh yeah! Let’s not forget the dreamers – the guys who don’t date, but dream. And then there are the out and out liars; the ones who pass on bad or outdated information. And while we are at it; when was the last time you gave some useful information, in accordance with the mission of this forum.
It’s JMHO but, my telling what I do is not going to help anyone get pussy, find women or avoid scammers. I could tell them my entire rap but if they cannot rap like me – what good does it do them?
Here is the long and the short of it. I am not giving out any more info than I already have. Anything that I want known is already available. If anyone really wants to know, they can dig through my previous reports.
[QUOTE=Phillyewe;1196856]I would also point out that paying to take photos is not illegal.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for that last bit of valuable information (as if I didn’t know). This is exactly what I am talking about; old useless information being presented as if it is golden. I don’t remember ever asking if paying for photos is illegal. Are you a lawyer?
It doesn’t matter. [size=3][b] Why? [/b][/size] [b] Because, I do not pay for pussy. Paying for sex is illegal. I am a law abiding citizen and I would never break the law by contributing to prostitution. [/b]
:)
CookyJar
Stand on the sidewalk of Kensington or Broadway. Swing a dead cat and let it fly. 75% chance the cat will hit a street walker. A street walker that for 20 dollars will allow you a reasonable amount of her time.
Follow the Rules
L T M
I didn't know you would react that way about a photo! You seem not to be interested in helping anyone except yourself. I'm not the IRS or any LE I just wanted to know what would have been a range. Personally I hate to say anything bad about anyone on here because were all here for the same thing so I thought. If you don't want to say FINE. That just let's a lot of other people know the kind of person you are. I really thought more of you than this. But like you said you have posted thousands of picture and reviews. If your not here to exchange info with others what are you here for anyway?
Well. After reading a few, I kinda get a feeling that. Why do you guys even care? Not that Cookiejar pays for any pics. But if he did. Why do you guys even care how much? Not that Cookiejar pays for a booty call. Why do you guys even care how much. I can't wrap my head around why you guys even want to know.
I mean, looking back at his history. That man has like 10, 000 reviews and 10, 000 pics. Can't you all be grateful enough for THAT much? We're all our own person. We each have our own swagger. If one guy pays X amount and another pays X amount. What difference does it make? At the end of the day. Isn't the real goal is to have your favorite SW get YOU off the way YOU want her too?
The way I see it. Maybe a particular SW likes a guy or tolerates a guy enough to let him take pics. That's between him and her. The same SW that lets one monger do something, might not even want to let another monger pick her up. You can't generalize all SWs into a single group. They're individuals just like us.
If Street Steve or Cookie Jar or SE (when he was here) had a way about them. And the girl felt that it was ok.
Then that's that. End of story.
Again that's just my humble opinion. Not that anybody here actually pays for anything. Just hypothetically speaking.
Just do YOU. Don't worry about what the next person is doing.
[QUOTE=Jicarlo;1197170]I didn't know you would react that way about a photo! You seem not to be interested in helping anyone except yourself. I'm not the IRS or any LE I just wanted to know what would have been a range. Personally I hate to say anything bad about anyone on here because were all here for the same thing so I thought. If you don't want to say FINE. That just let's a lot of other people know the kind of person you are. I really thought more of you than this. But like you said you have posted thousands of picture and reviews. If your not here to exchange info with others what are you here for anyway?[/QUOTE]
Don't take my response personal. I am watching my own back. No one else is.
Here is the link: [b][Post=513179] Here we go Again... [/post][/b]
Remember Wallingford, he was a poor man's Ed Newton. Ed Newton had class.
[QUOTE=Wallingford ]Above you refer to a standard price $50 + the extra $10 for FS. That's fine and needs no further comment. But that's for sex.
The fee for TAKING PICTURES is never clear. You once laughed at (but didn't deny outright) a claim you paid $30 per picture to Angie. And now you've done her housemate Brittney. I raise the question, because knowing both these girls, they're going to want to be well paid for taking off all their clothes and posing inside a car on a public street for 12+ pictures.
A response will benefit the rest of us, in case we have our cameras in tow. I've only done what you do once, and I paid $10 for one bare-tit shot of an attractive girl who used to hang out near K & Somerset. Your honest answer will help us all avoid paying too much and unnecessarily inflating the street price (or conversely, paying too little and undercutting you). I'm not looking to uncover "Gia's" secrets. I'm just looking for a very short answer regarding what you paid for an attractive girl like her for posing, for example: "15 photos for $75". [/QUOTE]
There have been a number of request for this info. Mostly by guys trying to cause trouble.
[QUOTE=CookyJar; 513179]Here we go again! A few months back one of the Avenue girls got right up in my face, angrily, because some monger from this board told her I said I had gotten a $10 blow job from her. That was bullshit. So now I am purposely vague about what I give. Not everyone in this forum is a friend. Not everyone here stands up with honor. If I have learned anything since joining this group, it's that for some reason – mongers will go behind your back and tell tales to girls they meet on the streets. That's a fact.
I do have a suggestion, however; that may solve your problem. Try this: If you come upon a sweet young thing that you'd like to photograph, ask her how much to take some picture. Bargain with her like you would in any other situation. Since you know Angie and Gia, ask them. Or, you could read back further, pass the post on Angie, until you reach one of the three other post containing the formula I use to bargain with providers.
Just remember one thing. YMMV. Maybe your technique will be better than mine. Maybe the girl will like you better than me. Or, maybe she will be in need of a fix. It might be her birthday. It could turn out to be give-away-day, on the Av. Who knows, it's is a buyer's market. What I pay shouldn't really concern you. It's what you pay that should matter. If you (or anyone) can get it at a cheaper price, so be it, more power to you. I am out there trying to get mine, not yours.
It seems like the girls on the street are far better at the game then we are. They just keep on doing whatever they need to do to get what they want. To my knowledge, there's no ho internet site where hos get together to plot, price gouge or compare price fixing techniques. They're not out there falling in love with us, lying to each other about us or playing the ego games we play. They just keep on getting whatever they can get, whenever they can get it.
I am still laughing at (but not denying outright) the claim that I paid $30 per picture to Angie. If you or anyone wants to believe that I pay $30 per picture. Ha Ha, I cannot stop laughing. So be it. Keep on believing it.
Gia quoted me a set price. It was a little above what I would normally like to have paid. I liked the girl; I could afford to pay her price, so I paid it. I hope that doesn't turn out to be a problem for anyone.
CookyJar.
PS: I never said I paid Gia,"$50 + the extra $10 for FS." Here is what I said:[/QUOTE]
The next time this subject comes up I will just say nothing.
[QUOTE=CookyJar; 513179]....The rate was so near the K Ave standard rate, I did not mind. For such a pretty girl, with a nice body and decent attitude, who is going to * about an extra $10. CookyJar.
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I have learned to be very guarded with all personal info. No one else is sharing.
CookyJar
[QUOTE=Love To Monger; 1197140]Stand on the sidewalk of Kensington or Broadway. Swing a dead cat and let it fly. 75% chance the cat will hit a street walker. A street walker that for 20 dollars will allow you a reasonable amount of her time.
Follow the Rules
L T M[/QUOTE]Thanks Love To Monger, you got my point. It's just that easy.
After all, it's not rocket science.
Now that they know, let's see how many members will go out and start taking pictures.
CookyJar
[QUOTE=Pdiddy77;1197175]…If Street Steve or Cookie Jar or SE (when he was here) had a way about them. And the girl felt that it was ok. Then that's that. End of story.
Just do YOU. Don't worry about what the next person is doing.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Pdiddy,
You are so right. As far as I know; Steve, SuperEloquent and I all had different techniques. Steve was a stated “Low Baller," SuperEloquent was a, “Off the Waller,” and I am a, “Shot Caller.” We all got the job done. :)
I am not knocking Lost Philly, Jicarlo or Nats Nats for being curious.
Some things are just common sense. How long would my popularity on the streets last if it got around that I could not be trusted to keep a girl’s price secret. What about my own privacy? If I wanted everyone to know, I would have posted the information a long time ago.
No disrespect fellows, but I believe I provide enough information without having to tell what’s coming out of my pocket.
CookyJar
[QUOTE=Phillyewe;1197721]…I found it and thought it might add levity to the current discussion (see #7 & #9). [/QUOTE]Like I said, the question has been asked, (referring to #7)
[QUOTE=Wallingford]…The fee for TAKING PICTURES is never clear. You once laughed at (but didn't deny outright) a claim you paid $30 per picture to Angie. And now you've done her housemate Brittney. I raise the question, because knowing both these girls, they're going to want to be well paid for taking off all their clothes and posing inside a car on a public street for 12+ pictures. The fee for TAKING PICTURES is never clear. You once laughed at (but didn't deny outright) a claim you paid $30 per picture to Angie. And now you've done her housemate Brittney. I raise the question, because knowing both these girls, they're going to want to be well paid for taking off all their clothes and posing inside a car on a public street for 12+ pictures.[/QUOTE]And asked.
[QUOTE=CookyJar]…I am still laughing at (but not denying outright) the claim that I paid $30 per picture to Angie. If you or anyone wants to believe that I pay $30 per picture. Ha Ha, I cannot stop laughing. So be it. Keep on believing it.[/QUOTE]And answered.
(I am still not denying) At $30 per picture x 12+ pictures = $360. I usually take 30 or more pictures of the pretty ones. That would be, $30. X 30+ pictures = $900+ dollars. And since I have post over 7, 000 original pictures, my grand total would be somewhere near $210, 000. I will never deny the accusation that I pay $30 per picture. The thought that someone might believe that I have $210, 000 to spend on SW pictures tickles me.
And, that's my final answer.
Still, ROFLMBAO!
CookyJar