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[QUOTE=FTP1999;2504828]Any idea what birthday present to get for young SB without breaking the bank?[/QUOTE]You mean a big cock is not enough? Money talks -give her a bonus-gift card, cash, etc. If you are in "love" then you need to get get to know what she likes. I took my ATF shopping and bought her some jewelry that she liked.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2504948]You mean a big cock is not enough? Money talks -give her a bonus-gift card, cash, etc. If you are in "love" then you need to get get to know what she likes. I took my ATF shopping and bought her some jewelry that she liked.[/QUOTE]I wi will give them perfume of their choice or a gift card to Victoria Secret (LOL). I did take one SB for shopping and found out that was her fake Bday.
Just sticking with my regulars, so nothing to report.
I've had a few SBs try to get my plate number on our first meeting (some ask, some just kind of go for it). I've always thought it was just a funny and mostly pointless "security measure" for them, and didn't really mind. I mean, it's not like you can steal someone's identity or open up a new credit card if you have their plate number. Am I being too careless about this though? Can an SB who has that info use it in some harmful way?
[QUOTE=Orbits;2505154]I've had a few SBs try to get my plate number on our first meeting (some ask, some just kind of go for it). I've always thought it was just a funny and mostly pointless "security measure" for them, and didn't really mind. I mean, it's not like you can steal someone's identity or open up a new credit card if you have their plate number. Am I being too careless about this though? Can an SB who has that info use it in some harmful way?[/QUOTE]Hmm, you can get the full name and address with a tag #, if your spouse is a co-owner they get that as well. I can think of a few problems arising out of that.
[QUOTE=FTP1999;2504828]Any idea what birthday present to get for young SB without breaking the bank?[/QUOTE]Go pick what you like at Victoria Secret, every time I have given a babe bras and panties from there I was well rewarded for my effort.
I wouldn't offer up any identifying information -- license plate, cell phone -- until you have met and verified she is not crazy and you want to pursue. You are just asking for trouble. There is no reason for them to ask for that info.
[QUOTE=Orbits;2505154]I've had a few SBs try to get my plate number on our first meeting (some ask, some just kind of go for it). I've always thought it was just a funny and mostly pointless "security measure" for them, and didn't really mind. I mean, it's not like you can steal someone's identity or open up a new credit card if you have their plate number. Am I being too careless about this though? Can an SB who has that info use it in some harmful way?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Orbits;2505154]I've had a few SBs try to get my plate number on our first meeting (some ask, some just kind of go for it). I've always thought it was just a funny and mostly pointless "security measure" for them, and didn't really mind. I mean, it's not like you can steal someone's identity or opeoun up a new credit card if you have their plate number. Am I being too careless about this though? Can an SB who has that info use it in some harmful way?[/QUOTE]SBs would have to have resources to get a plate Id'ed, but it is doable. A PI, LE family member, etc. All it would take is a spoiled baby who's real Father is on the warpath with a few bucks to invest. You have to drive to meet these babies. After all, Babies know what Hotel (room) they visited on what day if they are paying attention. The bottom line, treat the SBs well and try to end things in a gentlemanly way and all but the most psycho will not make the effort. They don't want anyone knowing what they are up to either. Can you imaging a 20 yr old's father knowing his Baby is banging Gramps? He might kick her ass ,send her to counselling, and ground her forever. Hollywood reported here last year that he has some experience with that.
I finally have something going and as usual it is rags to riches.
SB#1 40 yr old 10/10 /8/8 Date IRL material but I would rather have 8/8/10/10 ,or even 7/7/9/9.
SB#2 22 yr old 8/8/7/7.
SB#3 26 yr old 7/9/9/9 Now that is what I am talking about! The experience with # 3 is superior and I might have to stick with her.
I really need to limit my stable to 1, but I think I will do alternate weeks. My budget really doesn't support 2 full timers. #1 is near my age, college educated, and someone I could take anywhere and she would blend in. If I were single I would probably date her. But 2 &3 are rougher, blue collar, loaded with Tats, but are 20 yrs younger and can curl the toes. The FC is dark so I don'are really care what they look like. After all, for Stevie Wonder all well put together girls are 10's in his mind.
[QUOTE=SemperFidelis;2504362]I have checked the abbr & even googled LOL, been reading here a while and have had a sa account now for a few months, now to the point can someone please enlighten me as to what a pot & gps are?[/QUOTE]Please see the [POST=2480291]FAQ thread[/POST].
[QUOTE=Latex;2504204]I have been in the Sugar Bowl for exactly 1 year and here is my economic segmentation:
Latex Economic Scale:
*snip*
I have run into all 6 LES levels and find that 3 and 4 seem to be the most desirable from my perspective.
LES 1 are Flakes, LES 2 are a bit spoiled, LES 5 request high allowance.
LES 6 can be fun but hard to find.[/QUOTE]Nice description. Be interesting to cross-reference the Latex Economic Scale with the Nando Behavior Scale.
[QUOTE=GuyInTheCorner;2505236]I wouldn't offer up any identifying information -- license plate, cell phone -- until you have met and verified she is not crazy and you want to pursue. You are just asking for trouble. There is no reason for them to ask for that info.[/QUOTE]Well, plate # is not like cell phone, it's not exactly hard to get. It's literally big letters and digits on the back of the car. If she follows me somewhere after the initial meeting, she has it. Or if she figures out which car is mine, or if we take my car and she walks past it on the way to the passenger side. It only takes a second to snap a pic, if her memory is not reliable. So the ones who ask are just more polite than the ones who don't ask, but both kinds can get that number easy enough. I don't really see many ways around it, other than scheduling everything within walking distance. And that's not a great option.
[QUOTE=FredMoore;2505242]SBs would have to have resources to get a plate Id'ed, but it is doable. A PI, LE family member, etc. All it would take is a spoiled baby who's real Father is on the warpath with a few bucks to invest. You have to drive to meet these babies. After all, Babies know what Hotel (room) they visited on what day if they are paying attention. The bottom line, treat the SBs well and try to end things in a gentlemanly way and all but the most psycho will not make the effort. They don't want anyone knowing what they are up to either. Can you imaging a 20 yr old's father knowing his Baby is banging Gramps? He might kick her ass ,send her to counselling, and ground her forever. Hollywood reported here last year that he has some experience with that.[/QUOTE]I guess my biggest concern is the possibility of an sb working with LEO. In your opinion, how likely / common is that?
Other than that, well, I'm not married and I always treat them well. I suppose running into a psycho (or her psycho relatives) is something to worry about, but that's true for a lot of things, not just sb-sd relationships.
[QUOTE=Ltnric;2504017]My experience with 18-21 year olds are that they are either GPS, flakes, have massive attitude or are too scared to take it beyond email. God help them LOL.[/QUOTE]I have hit a litter of the latter on your list. I'm getting alot of "too scared to take it beyond email" bunch. I don't know why I put up with it. I might raise the age group up a tick for a while. I don't have a lot of patience at this point in my life. I don't put up with shit for too long.
[QUOTE=SemperFidelis;2504362]I have checked the abbr & even googled LOL, been reading here a while and have had a sa account now for a few months, now to the point can someone please enlighten me as to what a pot & gps are?[/QUOTE]POT = Potential SB. Prior to the meet & greet (M&G) and Fuck Chamber (FC).
GPS = Golden Pussy Sydrome. They think their pussy is worth more than it is.
You can also find the rest on a thread started by Zcochran called "Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ" still in the Richmond area of threads.
You know what I would like to see, but probably impossible to do would be a list of flakes to warn future Sugar Daddies, so they don't waste their time like some have.
I hate having my time wasted by kids that aren't yet ready for this site. I'm experiencing a lot of "scared" SB's. They talk a good game, but when it's time to meet, or time for the FC they run. I mean the solution is easy. Just don't waste one's time, but damn that poontang can be so good.
[QUOTE=ArcherSterling;2504926]I'd say this pretty much covers it, but there is another category to add that is a hybrid.
The Graduate Student! Especially those over 25. They have had a few years of LES 2 & 3 and realized they wanted more out of life and eventually want to be LES 6's. Much less flaky than undergrad girls, often have internships or research work that puts them further in the financial hole and are mature enough to know what this really is and have been fucked enough to know how much they like it and may even be sex maniacs looking to get some cash for their lust.[/QUOTE]Yeah I have one that is a Grad Student and fits the mold pretty much like you explained. Nice spinner Asian at a large university doing research work for her grad degree. She's here on a student visa from China.
I have a request. I have not been able to find the term in the index. Looking for a little help on the acronym.
Sorry for the consecutive posts, but I've had a problem with my account in regards to keying in text. When I'm writing something my post doesn't word wrap as I'm writing. My typing goes on and on in one continuous line. This can't be normal for everyone, and I should have brought it up sooner, but now it's annoying me to no end.
[QUOTE=KingGreg;2504749]Damn. You are good. Lucky you. For 2 in a day! What city you live?[/QUOTE]Sorry about that fellas. I'll put down more details next time.
Well, location is Richmond, VA. Small fun city with one major-sized college.
This college has about 30 K students, let's say 15 K are female students. If you search by age (18-26), you get a result of 900 potential SBs. That's just 6% of the female student population.
That number is nowhere near any major city like Los Angeles or New York.
So, that success rate, well for me, has been pretty good. It's all the good tips and reading up from you guys.
I swear, I can't walk around the city campus, without thinking, "Is that girl on SA?
You will get whiplash trying to see all the young girls walking around city campus.
So, next time, I'll tell better details. For now, like Hollywood, I'm probably just going to keep a rotation of 2 or 3 SBs. The tall 19 yr old brunette is the number 1. The 25 yr old redhead is number 2. And I'm deciding on number 3, either the 27 yr old single mom or one of the 3 POTs il will try out soon. Probably next week.
I'm still spent from my Two-a-day workout. Hahaha.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2505569]I have a request. I have not been able to find the term in the index. Looking for a little help on the acronym.[/QUOTE]ATF = All-Time Favorite.
My best luck has been with them. Law students are a particular strength for me. . Also note that graduate students often have more flexible schedules, which accommodates the daytime play many of us need. They often do not have family or children, and are in transition in their career and geographical path so have no need or desire for a permanent relationship. Finally, they do not have extensive social networks or active social lives where they are out many nights or weekends getting hit on or meeting guys. It all combines with they financial needs, school stress, and career uncertainty into a heady brew of young women that are ripe for no strings fun with a smart and handsome older man that satisfies their needs.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2505551]Yeah I have one that is a Grad Student and fits the mold pretty much like you explained. Nice spinner Asian at a large university doing research work for her grad degree. She's here on a student visa from China.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BlueFalcon123;2505738]Sorry about that fellas. I'll put down more details next time.
Well, location is Richmond, VA. Small fun city with one major-sized college.
This college has about 30 K students, let's say 15 K are female students. If you search by age (18-26), you get a result of 900 potential SBs. That's just 6% of the female student population.
.[/QUOTE]Nice. I am also from Richmond va. Well. I am glad to see your success rate on campus. I am also in the same type in terms of shopping taste.
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2505583]Sorry for the consecutive posts, but I've had a problem with my account in regards to keying in text. When I'm writing something my post doesn't word wrap as I'm writing. My typing goes on and on in one continuous line. This can't be normal for everyone, and I should have brought it up sooner, but now it's annoying me to no end.[/QUOTE]No, does that for me too. Can always write it outside in a text editor and paste it in here. Definitely very annoying.
I'm trading posts with a SB who claims she doesn't want a financial arrangement. She is young and very attractive. She is saying all the right things to make me believe it will be a sexual relationship. She wants to meet on Monday. This all seems too good to be true to me. Pretty young lady who posted on a SD website but wants to have a relationship with this old man for free. Have any of you found yourself in a situation like this?
Call me crazy but I kinda prefer a financial arrangement. At least it sets pretty clear boundaries for an arrangement.
[QUOTE=Zcochran00;2506132]No, does that for me too. Can always write it outside in a text editor and paste it in here. Definitely very annoying.[/QUOTE]Right. It's kind of surprising that the site hasn't made that right. I remember at least 20 years ago MS Word gave you the option of using "word wrap".
There are some pretty amazing women and amazing experiences to be had so this could be true, but most likely TGTBT. Use your instincts and move carefully.
I've been very upfront with some women explaining to them that there are many scammers on the site. We both need to protect ourselves until we develop a level of trust. Trust, but verify.
[QUOTE=Nice499;2506347]I'm trading posts with a SB who claims she doesn't want a financial arrangement. She is young and very attractive. She is saying all the right things to make me believe it will be a sexual relationship. She wants to meet on Monday. This all seems too good to be true to me. Pretty young lady who posted on a SD website but wants to have a relationship with this old man for free. Have any of you found yourself in a situation like this?
Call me crazy but I kinda prefer a financial arrangement. At least it sets pretty clear boundaries for an arrangement.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mike7794;2506373]Right. It's kind of surprising that the site hasn't made that right. I remember at least 20 years ago MS Word gave you the option of using "word wrap".[/QUOTE]Interesting. Looking at the source of the "Reply" page, it appears that the site is TRYING to load a reply editing plugin called "CKEditor", which is supposed to give you that nice Word-like editing experience. Something about that process must be breaking pretty badly, though. All we're getting is a mangled textbox instead.
For those of you who have been posting on USA for a long time (like, say, HollywoodGuy): has it always been like this, or did things noticeably break at some point?
I suppose I can report a problem to the site, but who knows if / when it'll be fixed.
Until then, see the first post in the FAQ thread for some links to tools designed for editing forum posts if you happen to want to do some actual formatting, or just use an external text editor to write and paste it in.
[QUOTE=Nice499;2506347]I'm trading posts with a SB who claims she doesn't want a financial arrangement. She is young and very attractive. She is saying all the right things to make me believe it will be a sexual relationship. She wants to meet on Monday. This all seems too good to be true to me. Pretty young lady who posted on a SD website but wants to have a relationship with this old man for free. Have any of you found yourself in a situation like this?
Call me crazy but I kinda prefer a financial arrangement. At least it sets pretty clear boundaries for an arrangement.[/QUOTE]I have had one baby go free on me from date one. 21 year old stripper. Thick but HWP and the best oral skills I have known. She does have a weird fetish that I won't mention but its cool with me. But she is also addicted to older guys. Mostly over 70. But 60 is OK with her. So you never know. She calls herself a geezer pleaser.
[QUOTE=Latex;2504204]I have been in the Sugar Bowl for exactly 1 year and here is my economic segmentation:
Latex Economic Scale:
LES 1: Generally uneducated only high school or college drop outs. Work in the service industry (food, hair, retail). Less than 15 K per year income. Constantly worried about rent, gas money, food money, party money.
LES 2: These SBs are in college and have the basics taken care of by loans, grants, parents. They have part time jobs to supplement their income. They want for nails, hair cuts, travel money, concert money, etc. Less than 15 K per year.
LES 3: This includes college grads that realize that degrees in fashion design, liberal arts, social work etc. Are do not lead to a career. They generally do find jobs but make less than 35 K. Their income only pays for rent, food, car, loans they have no money for fun or buying stuff. The men they meet expect them to split the check mostly because they don't make much either.
LES 4: These women are educated and work but due to a divorce and kids they have trouble making ends meet. They usually get child support payments but their total income is between 20 K - 50 K. Strippers also fall in this category.
LES 5: College educated and in careers that pay 40 K - 75 K, they have major loans to pay off. The men their age do not spoil them.
LES 6: Have well paying jobs 50 K - 120 K. They just seek NSA fun and companionship, maybe a long term relationship.
Look forward to everyones input and maybe I will modify this initlal draft a bit.
I have run into all 6 LES levels and find that 3 and 4 seem to be the most desirable from my perspective.
LES 1 are Flakes, LES 2 are a bit spoiled, LES 5 request high allowance.
LES 6 can be fun but hard to find.[/QUOTE]HWG Profiling for Regulars.
Girls that are usually 18-22 but could go to 27, about a 7/9 (face / body) but have low self esteem due to their looks not being high enough for them to feel truly confident in spite of their stunning bodies (which they are usually proud of, but not always no matter how hot they are). I date mostly small breasted girls. This also is a cause for low self esteem in many hot girls but not the reason I date them, I just prefer smaller breasts.
Very high sex drive that intimidates any guy that can't keep it up for at least an hour plus lots of other foreplay on top of that needed to keep them truly satisfied. Average sessions about 1 to 2 hours. Amazing in the skills dept, especially anything oral. For me anal is a bonus not a requirement. And like Fred said. Skills trump looks (but they still have to be spinners most of the time).
Love kink, toys, fetishes and taboo role play.
Fall in love easily and never tire of hearing how cute, pretty, sexy, amazing, dirty, and what a good little wh*re / girl they are. Need to hear how awesome their body, skills, pussy, mouth and ass are repeatedly. And how happy Daddy is with their efforts. The more you say it the wetter they get. They want a lot of sexy daddy talk and reassurance.
Have no problem with you having multiple babies. They believe you can have any girl you want (as they have seen pictures of your 9's and 10's, or even met them IRL) so they actually feel honored, privileged and proud to be one of them.
Must promise to love, honor and obey. Be loyal. Mind their manners in public and always let their Daddy be a gentleman and lead the way. And so being a gentleman they do have the right to say no without fear of reprisal.
Not jealous even when they know about random girls on top of your regulars. Need to inform you of any desire to be with another and ask permission to do so whether its for business or pleasure.
Have a good family support system so their lack of a job, low paying job or government support gets them by. Combined with a kind, understanding and patient Daddy, so your $ a date sugar is very much appreciated.
I cultivate the needy. I know that's not for every guy on here and I prefer LTR's overall. 80/20 that's where my money goes. You may say this all sounds TGTBT or not your cup of sugar. But after 8 years of doing this, its the reality that keeps me focused on my work, without which, none of this would be possible. Work, Sugar, Eat, Sleep. KISS.
[QUOTE=Nice499;2506347]I'm trading posts with a SB who claims she doesn't want a financial arrangement. She is young and very attractive. She is saying all the right things to make me believe it will be a sexual relationship. She wants to meet on Monday. This all seems too good to be true to me. Pretty young lady who posted on a SD website but wants to have a relationship with this old man for free. Have any of you found yourself in a situation like this?
Call me crazy but I kinda prefer a financial arrangement. At least it sets pretty clear boundaries for an arrangement.[/QUOTE]It's not very common, but this type does exist. "No financial arrangement" shouldn't be mistaken for "free" though. This type of SB will probably expect to be taken out to expensive / upscale restaurants, or on shopping trips, or on vacations (or all of the above). My current main SB (going on 8 month) falls into this category, so I'd say this is my favorite type. It's a lot more fun for me to go shopping with her occasionally and buy her around 100-300 worth of things she wants (usually art supplies or clothes) versus just handing her the cash. I don't know if there's such a thing as a shopping fetish, but if there is, she has it. She definitely gets more than a little excited while shopping, which is always a lot of fun after we get back.
[QUOTE=BlueFalcon123;2505738]Well, location is Richmond, VA. Small fun city with one major-sized college.
This college has about 30 K students, let's say 15 K are female students. If you search by age (18-26), you get a result of 900 potential SBs. That's just 6% of the female student population. That number is nowhere near any major city like Los Angeles or New York.
[/QUOTE]Well one thing to keep in mind is that not all SBs are college students, so that doesn't mean 6% of female VCU students have their pie on the buffet, and larger percentage numbers would more likely indicate a larger number of "non-academically affiliated freelancers", because ultimately it's just a representation of the ratio of female gold-diggers to population of local colleges.
There are certain cities you're going to see spikes of SBs in: LA, NYC, Vegas, Miami, etc. , but the reason for those spikes has little with textbooks, student loans and the pythagorean theorem.
It's because those are all hugely populated "dreamer-towns". They are notorious for luring young ladies to them with stars in their eyes, dreams of fame and riches, and so forth. And, because those towns are both magnets for dreamers, and simultaneously the city itself is a dream-crushing factory, they end up with a surplus of struggling damsel in distress type. High cost of living, higher lifestyle expectation, yet no where to go for a want to-be except waiting tables or fucking for dollars.
That's not to say that VCU doesn't account for a large portion of the SB population (I'm sure it does). I just wouldn't compare it to other cities for meaningful conclusions. I personally find things differ greatly in different markets, and that the results and type of girls you find in one, as well as their attitudes and motivations, do not necessarily carry over to another city. That's been my experience, at least.
I lost count, but I must have about 7 babies / pot in play right now. This is so much fun. I feel a bit of an addiction starting, or just getting deeper in the present addiction. I'm getting texts left and right while setting up days and times and negotiating. Out of all of them I have this extreme hankering for one 22 year old I'm meeting tomorrow. 8/9. The others are nice too, but something about this one with her looks and personality. Maybe I'm sensing she is kind of green in the sex department and needs teaching, also she is new to the site. I can't entirely put my finger on it, but I want to pound that pussy like there is no tomorrow.
Living in one of the richest states in the country, I have to deal with this a lot.
This is a typical SA response to my Step 1 from HWG's guide.
[B][I]"Ok 10,000 is my expectation and 1,000 per week will be good for me"[/I][/B]
I don't want to even waste time with this, but considering it's a lazy Sunday afternoon, I want to have some fun with it.
What is a good response to this? Taking any, and all, suggestions.
Smoke.
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2507534]Living in one of the richest states in the country, I have to deal with this a lot.
This is a typical SA response to my Step 1 from HWG's guide.
[B][I]"Ok 10,000 is my expectation and 1,000 per week will be good for me"[/I][/B]
I don't want to even waste time with this, but considering it's a lazy Sunday afternoon, I want to have some fun with it.
What is a good response to this? Taking any, and all, suggestions.
Smoke.[/QUOTE]Tell her you will pay her 6000 Rupees / week with a 10,000 R sign on bonus.
Speaking of Indians ,anyone have any success with lovely ladies from that country ? Or is their culture not amenable to this type of seditious behavior ?
It's been a while since I've posted in this forum but I've been very active in the sugar world. I've been taking the advise of some of the more experienced players and trying to lower my cost per pop. I've overpaid a bit in the past and I appreciate this forums sage advise.
Anyway, I travel to a mid size midwestern city quite a bit and since I'm in a hotel anyway and on an expense account I use it as an opportunity to jump in the sugar pool. Every time I go out I find a new friend. Sometimes it's just a dinner date with a college cutie, sometimes it's an all night romp with a cougar. This time I was working a 19 yo mom.
She listed "substantial" on her profile but I figured giving it a shot couldn't hurt to give it a shot. We went back and forth for a few hours via text and you could tell she was very new to this. We settled on she would come to visit my hotel and we would order some room service drinks because she couldn't order at the bar. A couple hours prior she asked if she could bring her friend because she was a little nervous having not met anyone before. Of course I said "sure" is she looking for an arrangement also. That was answered affirmatively followed by "she won't do anything sexual". Yea right.
A bit before I sent a cab to pick them up (neither drove) the subject of an allowance was brought up to which I gave my standard sugar for sugar answer but told her they were welcome for drinks and if more happened sugar would flow. Some back and forth ensued and I committed to $100 if there was some making out and such and if anything more happened than I'd show my appreciation.
When they arrived I was greeted by 2 bubbly teens ready to have fun. I took the liberty of finding out their favorite drinks and had bottles, mixers, and ice all ready to go. It didn't take long to start making out with the original one, slightly longer to get them both topless, and only a few minutes after that until we all were making out together. Have to say it was pretty much of a shit show.
As things progressed and more clothes hit the floor I found out what "no sexual stuff means" apparently neither of them fuck on the first date but I guess oral sex doesn't count as sex. Had the 2 of them licking each other then taking turns on me. Unfortunately didn't last too long with all the excitement but fun times were had.
As they departed the room for the Uber ride home we kissed a the door and I put $150 in the ring leaders hand. She smiled and thanked me and they went on their way. Got a text from her right after the cab pickup thanking me for being so generous and how they can't wait to do it again next time I'm in town.
I love this game.
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2507534]Living in one of the richest states in the country, I have to deal with this a lot.
This is a typical SA response to my Step 1 from HWG's guide.
[B][I]"Ok 10,000 is my expectation and 1,000 per week will be good for me"[/I][/B]
I don't want to even waste time with this, but considering it's a lazy Sunday afternoon, I want to have some fun with it.
What is a good response to this? Taking any, and all, suggestions.
Smoke.[/QUOTE]Below is a reply I sent to a GPS recently regarding what she is looking for in her profile. I don't usually waste my time, but one day I felt compelled to waste my time.
"I don't want sex but give me money and open my business for me. BUUUUHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA".
And she further stated in her profile " Important: will only meet if you are background checked if you are not I will you have something to hide".
MyHobby that is an excellent encounter. Congratulations.
[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2507534]Living in one of the richest states in the country, I have to deal with this a lot.
This is a typical SA response to my Step 1 from HWG's guide.
[B][I]"Ok 10,000 is my expectation and 1,000 per week will be good for me"[/I][/B]
I don't want to even waste time with this, but considering it's a lazy Sunday afternoon, I want to have some fun with it.
What is a good response to this? Taking any, and all, suggestions.
Smoke.[/QUOTE]I never burn a bridge by being too smart-ass with someone with GPS. I use a modified version of an earlier answer by HWG. Here is a recent sample to a woman asking $500/ date:
"This is to follow up on my conversation from this morning. First, I think it should be mandatory to have a lunch or coffee meeting before reaching any final agreement. Some of the women here I might pay $500/ week; others I would not date for free. I am sure you feel the same about the men. Since personal chemistry is such a big part of that equation, I need some conversation in person before making a commitment. If we don't sparkle, it won't work for me regardless of what is offered.
Second, one of my rules is to never offer allowance amounts by text or even in a phone conversation. There are risks for both sides in doing so.
I'm sure you will get offers of $200 to $300 to $500 a date (maybe even lots of them). And you may need at least that much just to tolerate the guys offering it. I understand some girls will date anyone if they pay enough. And I don't judge. I just know that for a woman to keep seeing me for a $100 to $200 a date she has to like me. At higher amounts, I would never know if it was me or the cash. Does that make sense?
Are you looking for the highest bidder? Because If you're going for top dollar, that won't be me. But if you're willing to take less to be with a more sophisticated, good looking guy (for my age that is) then we might be able to make it work. I typically offer between $100 and $200 a week with the higher amount going to women who trust me enough to host at their place. What do you think? Is there room for us to form an arrangement?
Thoughts?
BAM.
With a lot of thought put into it. Thanks for sharing I think I will steal shamelessly!
I know I have had SB accept less from me than others as they enjoyed the company. It's real!
[QUOTE=BradAM;2509013]I never burn a bridge by being too smart-ass with someone with GPS. I use a modified version of an earlier answer by HWG. Here is a recent sample to a woman asking $500/ date:
"This is to follow up on my conversation from this morning. First, I think it should be mandatory to have a lunch or coffee meeting before reaching any final agreement. Some of the women here I might pay $500/ week; others I would not date for free. I am sure you feel the same about the men. Since personal chemistry is such a big part of that equation, I need some conversation in person before making a commitment. If we don't sparkle, it won't work for me regardless of what is offered.
Second, one of my rules is to never offer allowance amounts by text or even in a phone conversation. There are risks for both sides in doing so.
I'm sure you will get offers of $200 to $300 to $500 a date (maybe even lots of them). And you may need at least that much just to tolerate the guys offering it. I understand some girls will date anyone if they pay enough. And I don't judge. I just know that for a woman to keep seeing me for a $100 to $200 a date she has to like me. At higher amounts, I would never know if it was me or the cash. Does that make sense?
Are you looking for the highest bidder? Because If you're going for top dollar, that won't be me. But if you're willing to take less to be with a more sophisticated, good looking guy (for my age that is) then we might be able to make it work. I typically offer between $100 and $200 a week with the higher amount going to women who trust me enough to host at their place. What do you think? Is there room for us to form an arrangement?
Thoughts?
BAM.[/QUOTE]