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[QUOTE=MetroRider;3597012]You have to table negotiate. All this should have be discussed prior to entering the VIP.[/QUOTE]Yeah and no upfront payment. Get everything settled before going into VIP. If they change their mind once in the back, you can "exit stage right" and only be out the $20 you paid to get back there.
[QUOTE=Bratley1055;3599817]What did she look like? Short, dark hair and italian / mexican looking with 36 Ds? Theres a shot girl named Vanessa that is a fun girl. She talked about trying dancing.[/QUOTE]Check out my reply indicated in the title.
Headed out right now any suggestions. Thinking the cricket maybe flight or goo hunting for a gem at Henry's or Bogarts.
[QUOTE=RayLatoole;3600112]I used to go to bouzoukis when it was strictly belly dancers. But there was fun to be had otc.[/QUOTE]You, sir, are my hero. Bouzouki's was the only place I knew when I was a teen that offered such exotic fare, and I SO wanted to go there. But the costs were, I knew, too high for my meager student budget. And I stayed poor until I got married, so that was the end of that dream.
I would enjoy reading any stories you could post about those days.
Decided to venture out and ended up at Coli. Got there around 930 pm. Wasn't to busy but a ton of girls everywhere. Probably 6 girls walked up and asked if I wanted a dance. Persia and Eve were the only ones I can remember. Persia, dirty blonde, early 20's gorgeous girl, long legs, B-C Cup my type of girl. About 2 hrs pass and 5 beers in, place started to get real busy. Decided to go with Eve, since everyone was with regulars. Eve, late 20's, C Cup little bit thicker. Asked for VIP ended up 4 songs in with no extras. I guess my mistake for not asking beforehand. After the dance decided to leave and went into BT's to give it another shot. Got sat at a table. Got one beer and seemed like I was being avoided. Was about to go home when another Persia in BT's ushered me over and we got talking. Didn't really bring up to much and we chatted for about 15 minutes. At this point I was tired and Figured I'll get a dance before I leave. This Persia, was late 20's, much thicker, DD, and had an ass on her. Got into the VIP room and she asked if I was a cop. Said no. She patted me down for a wire and than asked if I wanted a little extra fun. Started with CBJ, than doggy, and ended with her on the chair. She mentioned to me the reason why I wa being avoided in BTs is because I looked like a cop. Which explains why I was being avoided and Coli. Total damage 2. 5. 0 plus parking at BT's. All in all worth the trip. Now if someone can point me in the right direction in Coli. All the girls just did it for me I'm there. Specifically Persia in Coli. Anyone have any experience with her? Would it be better to go on a weekday to Coli?
[QUOTE=MiksHardLmonad;3601847]Decided to venture out and ended up at Coli. Got there around 930 pm. Wasn't to busy but a ton of girls everywhere. Probably 6 girls walked up and asked if I wanted a dance. Persia and Eve were the only ones I can remember. Persia, dirty blonde, early 20's gorgeous girl, long legs, B-C Cup my type of girl. About 2 hrs pass and 5 beers in, place started to get real busy. Decided to go with Eve, since everyone was with regulars. Eve, late 20's, C Cup little bit thicker. Asked for VIP ended up 4 songs in with no extras. I guess my mistake for not asking beforehand. After the dance decided to leave and went into BT's to give it another shot. Got sat at a table. Got one beer and seemed like I was being avoided. Was about to go home when another Persia in BT's ushered me over and we got talking. Didn't really bring up to much and we chatted for about 15 minutes. At this point I was tired and Figured I'll get a dance before I leave. This Persia, was late 20's, much thicker, DD, and had an ass on her. Got into the VIP room and she asked if I was a cop. Said no. She patted me down for a wire and than asked if I wanted a little extra fun. Started with CBJ, than doggy, and ended with her on the chair. She mentioned to me the reason why I wa being avoided in BTs is because I looked like a cop. Which explains why I was being avoided and Coli. Total damage 2. 5. 0 plus parking at BT's. All in all worth the trip. Now if someone can point me in the right direction in Coli. All the girls just did it for me I'm there. Specifically Persia in Coli. Anyone have any experience with her? Would it be better to go on a weekday to Coli?[/QUOTE]While not an expert. Asking prior to going back is about 100% effective in my experience. I have X dollars, and want why service. Maybe a bit more for the VIP attendant tax, but put out an all in rate and don't forget to include no song limit. Or at least a reasonable number. I don't take more than 4-5 songs for any service so if I have a deal for a Benjamin for a French lesson, I'll get good dance for song or two, then still have a couple songs left for the lesson. I get the cop look that no sometimes too. I guess only cops get short haircuts.
[QUOTE=Dbiz01;3600888]Yeah and no upfront payment. Get everything settled before going into VIP. If they change their mind once in the back, you can "exit stage right" and only be out the $20 you paid to get back there.[/QUOTE]And the number of songs you were back there ($25 each). Even if you walk out 10 seconds into the first song you still owe her $25 dollars. Some clubs (bouncers) will even count the song that's playing as you're walking back there as the first song.
[QUOTE=MetroRider;3602447]And the number of songs you were back there ($25 each). Even if you walk out 10 seconds into the first song you still owe her $25 dollars. Some clubs (bouncers) will even count the song that's playing as you're walking back there as the first song.[/QUOTE]Never had that happen with me. It was always between you and the girl. Once had an underhanded chick tried to say I short changed her. But I had be coming to that place for awhile, the folks at the door and the people at the VIP entrance knew me. No one had EVER complained about me, so they just dismissed her complaint. But yes. Getting the number of songs agreed to upfront with the girl is important.
I've normally gotten a no song limit.
[QUOTE=TRobber22;3602110]While not an expert. Asking prior to going back is about 100% effective in my experience. I have X dollars, and want why service. Maybe a bit more for the VIP attendant tax, but put out an all in rate and don't forget to include no song limit. Or at least a reasonable number. I don't take more than 4-5 songs for any service so if I have a deal for a Benjamin for a French lesson, I'll get good dance for song or two, then still have a couple songs left for the lesson. I get the cop look that no sometimes too. I guess only cops get short haircuts.[/QUOTE]Good advice TRobber22.
I don't know what it is but good advice always seems to fall on deaf ears around here. How many times has it been said to table negotiate (negotiate before entering the VIP)? Probably just as many times as it's been said to use Google Image to see if pics are real. But like clockwork there always seems to be several mongers that just won't listen. Currently JoeDocks11 is trying to get members to preserve BP and CL like by using an archive website, I'm sure his posts will fall on deaf ears as well.
There was a new girl named Exquisite, dancing Tuesday Night. Xquisite is about 5 foot 7 light brown skin, giant afro, big natural 36 D's and a wonderfully large nice ass. She came over after dancing and I made a low ball offer of $. Surprisingly she agreed. We went downstairs and it started getting hot and heavy then she said "you know I am charging $ plus $25 per song. What a boner killer (renegotiation in the middle of the action) . Next she is being called on stage. She asked me to pay up. I give her the $ but I refuse to pay more. She goes to the VIP troll who demands I pay up or he will call the Manager. I say call the manager. The manager comes talks to the girl and tells me "Its a misunderstanding, sorry". I leave very dissapointed.
[QUOTE=Dbiz01;3602605]Never had that happen with me. It was always between you and the girl. Once had an underhanded chick tried to say I short changed her. But I had be coming to that place for awhile, the folks at the door and the people at the VIP entrance knew me. No one had EVER complained about me, so they just dismissed her complaint. But yes. Getting the number of songs agreed to upfront with the girl is important.
I've normally gotten a no song limit.[/QUOTE]In most cases, if the dancer tells the bouncer you owe her money, the bouncer will go by the number of songs you were in the VIP. So if you were back there for 8 songs but she says you only paid her 100, the bouncer will tell you that you owe her 100 more. Also if you valeted your car, you won't get your car back until you pay. So no, it's not just between you and the girl if the girl wants to get the bar involved.
Anyone seen Farrah from PHC dayshift? She's dark hair, tan skin and great body. Haven't seen her in awhile, although heard she's seeing many regulars outside instead.
Hello All,
I will be visiting Detroit soon and was wondering what would be the best strip club to visit for extras? Also, I've never attempted this before so what is the best way to ask if extras are available?
Thanks in advance.
SA.
Catching a flight Saturday afternoon for NOLA got to Detroit early, about 2:30, so I checked out Bogarts, nothing interesting a couple of dancers on stage and a few sitting with customers. Headed over to Henrys North. A tall AA girl with big naturals sat with me forget her name but she was cute. Offered anything I wanted but I just wasn't into it. With time running out headed back to Bogarts and was approached by Lori, I think that was her name, 40's, big fake boobs, so what the hell. Fantastic BBBJ, really! I negotiated first, as always, 4 Barry's no song limit. We may have been up there for five. SHe honored our agreement, No problem. But really great BBBJ. Reading through the negotiating tips on the board, just want to add one tip. If you have a wife or SO always check your underweare for lipstick, especially if you wear tightie whities.
Have fun guys.
[QUOTE=NoButts;3603397]Catching a flight Saturday afternoon for NOLA got to Detroit early, about 2:30, so I checked out Bogarts, nothing interesting a couple of dancers on stage and a few sitting with customers. Headed over to Henrys North. A tall AA girl with big naturals sat with me forget her name but she was cute. Offered anything I wanted but I just wasn't into it. With time running out headed back to Bogarts and was approached by Lori, I think that was her name, 40's, big fake boobs, so what the hell. Fantastic BBBJ, really! I negotiated first, as always, 4 Barry's no song limit. We may have been up there for five. SHe honored our agreement, No problem. But really great BBBJ. Reading through the negotiating tips on the board, just want to add one tip. If you have a wife or SO always check your underweare for lipstick, especially if you wear tightie whities.
Have fun guys.[/QUOTE]What was the damages?
[QUOTE=DatChase;3603438]What was the damages?[/QUOTE]He said 4 "Barry's". WTF is a Barry? I hope he didn't mean 4 Benjamins and paid 400 bucks for a BJ!
[QUOTE=SkillyDog;3603923]He said 4 "Barry's". WTF is a Barry? I hope he didn't mean 4 Benjamins and paid 400 bucks for a BJ![/QUOTE]Barry Sanders number = 20.
[QUOTE=SkillyDog;3603923]He said 4 "Barry's". WTF is a Barry? I hope he didn't mean 4 Benjamins and paid 400 bucks for a BJ![/QUOTE]Barry Sanders was #20, so 4 Barry's is 80 bucks?
Thanks for clearing that up Bacon Bread. It was 80 plus 10 for the wrist band and another 12 or so for two bud lights and tip. Lori said she was late for her shift that's probably why I didn't see her the first time I was there. I was also her first customer that day. Its been a long time since I played in the Detroit Clubs about 6 years, theres some really good advice on this form too. Negotiate first, service songs and price. You can always upsell her, when your in the back for additional services. Another 20,40 what ever for FS CIM COF.
[QUOTE=TRobber22;3604216]Barry Sanders number = 20.[/QUOTE]Love the Detroit-centric reference!
[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3604393]Love the Detroit-centric reference![/QUOTE]I agree. Although Billy Sims was #20 also, so 4 Billys could work too!
[QUOTE=NoButts;3604343]Thanks for clearing that up Bacon Bread. It was 80 plus 10 for the wrist band and another 12 or so for two bud lights and tip. Lori said she was late for her shift that's probably why I didn't see her the first time I was there. I was also her first customer that day. Its been a long time since I played in the Detroit Clubs about 6 years, theres some really good advice on this form too. Negotiate first, service songs and price. You can always upsell her, when your in the back for additional services. Another 20,40 what ever for FS CIM COF.[/QUOTE]Any chance that Lori had well defined tan lines?
[QUOTE=MetroRider;3602821]In most cases, if the dancer tells the bouncer you owe her money, the bouncer will go by the number of songs you were in the VIP. So if you were back there for 8 songs but she says you only paid her 100, the bouncer will tell you that you owe her 100 more. Also if you valeted your car, you won't get your car back until you pay. So no, it's not just between you and the girl if the girl wants to get the bar involved.[/QUOTE]Again, as I said, it never happened to me. YMMV like anything else. But I never had that problem.
Went to Henry North Monday and had a couple of beers and decided to leave after the night shift. So I asked this door goon if I can have a pass to Bogarts. He then ask me how long was I here, how many drinks did I have and did I have buy any dances. I said are you kidding me? Then he said why should I give you a pass if I didn't spend any money. I'm thinking who in the freak are you? He started to reach for the pass on top of the vending machine and I just said forget! Bogarts just lost some of my money and I went home richer. Talk about a douche bag!!
[QUOTE=AirTouchOne;3605137]Went to Henry North Monday and had a couple of beers and decided to leave after the night shift. So I asked this door goon if I can have a pass to Bogarts. He then ask me how long was I here, how many drinks did I have and did I have buy any dances. I said are you kidding me? Then he said why should I give you a pass if I didn't spend any money. I'm thinking who in the freak are you? He started to reach for the pass on top of the vending machine and I just said forget! Bogarts just lost some of my money and I went home richer. Talk about a douche bag!![/QUOTE]The Henry's doormen are indeed jackasses. They usually want to know how much you spent before giving a pass. Not comprehending that if you didn't spend money it's because you didn't find anyone to spend on. The guys at Bogart's are cool. They give passes without the third degree, and act glad to see you. I go there first.
[QUOTE=Acoustic53;3604393]Love the Detroit-centric reference![/QUOTE]Before he got married and had kids then divorced there were quite frequent Barry sightings in many Detroit area strip clubs.
[QUOTE=Dbiz01;3605134]Again, as I said, it never happened to me. YMMV like anything else. But I never had that problem.[/QUOTE]I understood your first post, and I hope it never does happen to you.
Wondering which is better for nice slim MILF type dayshift experience, Bogies or Players?
Have avoided dayshift Bogies for the last few years because the girls never seem to change. Always the same, mileage was good but I like a variety. Maybe time to go back.
Players is a nicer club but I miss the old VIP and the selection. Made a few daytime visits a couple of months ago and mileage was good, but selection seemed lacking.
[QUOTE=Dsc12;3608662]Wondering which is better for nice slim MILF type dayshift experience, Bogies or Players?
Have avoided dayshift Bogies for the last few years because the girls never seem to change. Always the same, mileage was good but I like a variety. Maybe time to go back.
Players is a nicer club but I miss the old VIP and the selection. Made a few daytime visits a couple of months ago and mileage was good, but selection seemed lacking.[/QUOTE]My self like Players.
[QUOTE=TwoWheeler21;3605513]The Henry's doormen are indeed jackasses. They usually want to know how much you spent before giving a pass. Not comprehending that if you didn't spend money it's because you didn't find anyone to spend on. The guys at Bogart's are cool. They give passes without the third degree, and act glad to see you. I go there first.[/QUOTE]They are just doing what management tells them to do.
[QUOTE=MetroRider;3609297]They are just doing what management tells them to do.[/QUOTE]I have always asked for a pass before and they never acted like this douche bag!
[QUOTE=AirTouchOne;3609371]I have always asked for a pass before and they never acted like this douche bag![/QUOTE]Maybe management is cracking down or the guy is just a D-bag.
After going to see the Pistons game Friday night decided to make a stop to BT's before the long road trip back home. This club has always been hit or miss for me. The last time I was here was about 2 years ago and it was definitely a lame experience. This night it wasn't so bad. Mostly new faces and decent pedigree. Had my eyes on a few girls but of course they didn't come my way. Seemed liked they stuck to regulars or something. Ended up with a decent looking slim AA. She told me her name a couple of times but I couldn't comprehend what it was. My apologies for that. She had straight hair with blonde highlights. Her face I'd rate about a 7. Her body an 8. Attitude / performance a 7. BBBJ CFS for. 60. Which included a Jackson tip for bbj. So after the valet, admission, mandatory drink, and bouncer tax, I spent about 230 in all. Not a bad experience but there was a couple of hotties I would have liked a chance to the VIP. May come back sooner than later to try my luck again. I will report.
Went to penthouse that's the best club in Detroit top shelf ladies non had blemished faces from doing crack and / or cocaine or the druggie shakes at times I gave the poor women money to buy food Subi's I stopped doing that I bought them a meal, Poor women need rehab for their own good.
Be Kool BF.
[QUOTE=TwoWheeler21;3605513]The Henry's doormen are indeed jackasses. They usually want to know how much you spent before giving a pass. Not comprehending that if you didn't spend money it's because you didn't find anyone to spend on. The guys at Bogart's are cool. They give passes without the third degree, and act glad to see you. I go there first.[/QUOTE]If this is something new that has been started, then I'll just tell the moron the truth. The reason I normally switch between is because I didn't find a dancer that I appealed to me and gave a good dance. So my reply will likely be on the lines of, "After one drink, I didn't find any dancer here today that I liked, and am heading to Bogarts to see if things look better over there. ".
If he doesn't like this answer then tough.
[QUOTE=Dsc12;3608662]Wondering which is better for nice slim MILF type dayshift experience, Bogies or Players?
Have avoided dayshift Bogies for the last few years because the girls never seem to change. Always the same, mileage was good but I like a variety. Maybe time to go back.
Players is a nicer club but I miss the old VIP and the selection. Made a few daytime visits a couple of months ago and mileage was good, but selection seemed lacking.[/QUOTE]I'm not sure why you are comparing these two clubs- they are in very different parts of the Detroit Metro area, maybe 20-25 miles apart. If you are at Bogarts and looking for alternative clubs, then the Flight Club is across the street from Bogarts-- it is much more upscale than Bogarts but does feature a good line up of slender dancers.
On the other hand, Player is a mid tier club, nearly as nice (and nearly as pricey) as Flight Club. It usually has a good afternoon shift. If you don't like the talent at Player's, then the Coliseum is your closest alternative, only a couple of miles to the west on 8 mile.
If I was selecting between Players and Bogarts, it would be Players, hands down. A bit more expensive and upscale but much better afternoon talent than Bogarts on most days.
Hi Guys,
Sorry for not RTFF, but what are the top clubs with Euros that are open to extras?
I hear there are some sweet chicks here, and they don't do armed robbery on a man for drinks and dances, Ill check it out.
Have great weekend To All score well live well.
BF be Kool.
I hear there are some sweet chicks here, and they don't do armed robbery on a man for drinks and dances, Ill check it out.
Have great weekend To All score well live well.
BF be Kool.
[QUOTE=HornyInKalamaz;3610887]After going to see the Pistons game Friday night decided to make a stop to BT's before the long road trip back home. This club has always been hit or miss for me. The last time I was here was about 2 years ago and it was definitely a lame experience. This night it wasn't so bad. Mostly new faces and decent pedigree. Had my eyes on a few girls but of course they didn't come my way. Seemed liked they stuck to regulars or something. Ended up with a decent looking slim AA. She told me her name a couple of times but I couldn't comprehend what it was. My apologies for that. She had straight hair with blonde highlights. Her face I'd rate about a 7. Her body an 8. Attitude / performance a 7. BBBJ CFS for. 60. Which included a Jackson tip for bbj. So after the valet, admission, mandatory drink, and bouncer tax, I spent about 230 in all. Not a bad experience but there was a couple of hotties I would have liked a chance to the VIP. May come back sooner than later to try my luck again. I will report.[/QUOTE]I was there earlier that night during the start of the Piston's game and wasn't impressed. There was one 10 that I would have loved to have had but she went over to a guy who had tipped her onstage. Besides that, there weren't really any girls who interested me. Only one girl came over, an AA with a nice rack but an ugly face, I'd say 3 or 4. She introduced herself and I said "nice to meet you". She must not have heard what I said because she got up, said "Well I guess you don't like black people" and left. I wasn't going to stay there much longer after that: