"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=BigTigger;2499353]I'm not sure where you are, but I used SA and pulled out of Raleigh a 24 year old AA, single mom to meet once or twice a month who's willing to drive up to my area. Very little donation amount, just wanted company, FC and not to pay for activities. So they are out there, keep on the grind.[/QUOTE]Tigger,

Good to see you posting here. Seems it's been awhile! I live much further west and my last few Pots have quoted between $500-$1,000 per meeting! A couple were cute young things but one was a 38 year old MILF. Not bad but not that high dollar a Baby for sure.

Wow. Just sign up for a new SA account, and wow. $69.95 for a month?

Set up a new account now using a different email address. After it sits fallow for three or four months, SA knocks down the membership price to $50.

The site wants SDs who are on the sidelines to get in the game. In the longrun $20 is a drop in the bucket, but the discount has convinced me to sign up when I otherwise would not have. Besides, I'd rather spend that $20 on a baby.

If you get enough outside contact info from pots then you'll need a few months of a break period to follow up with them.

The major downside though is seeing all those new profiles coming up. And unless you have an active account, knowing that some other SD is breaking in that baby and molding her to his tastes.

I think HWG said it best when he commented how the new SBs are often the best because they come without any preconceived notions about how the bowl works.

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2500919]Wow. Just sign up for a new SA account, and wow. $69.95 for a month?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MagicRat;2500858]Tigger,

Good to see you posting here. Seems it's been awhile! I live much further west and my last few Pots have quoted between $500-$1,000 per meeting! A couple were cute young things but one was a 38 year old MILF. Not bad but not that high dollar a Baby for sure.[/QUOTE]Yes it has been a while. Oh that's way too much. I used the same approach and it has netted me with 3 to 5 SBs in NC that I can see once a month at $100 or less per meeting. Two to 3 were willing to drive. I'm not sure if your "needs", but if you had let's say 2 of those that you saw twice a month, that would be some FC action once a week. Sometimes holding on to being local can be a drawback.

BT.

[QUOTE=Smokarz_XO;2500919]Wow. Just sign up for a new SA account, and wow. $69.95 for a month?[/QUOTE]First of all, being a non-paid member is a red flag for the SBs. If you can't afford a measly $70, then why would they think you could even afford to give them any money.

2nd If you divide that by the number of FC visits, it's still cheaper than using Escorts.

Some of us are very cheap, but I've found that it's always best to accept the costs to play in the game.

BT.

I have been following this thread for about 4 months now and finally took the plunge into finding a SB. I set up an account with SA about a month and a half ago and have been browsing through trying to find the right SB. Finally, this week I cam across this local SB and we set up a m&g. She was a very attractive spinner (see attached pic) and very willing to please. Upon the advice provided here, I arranged a meeting for coffee with no compensation to her. At the m&g, after chatting for a little while we took a ride in her car, with me driving, and she proceeded to provide me with an amazing BBBJ that had me going crazy. We then pulled over to a secluded space where we could be more comfortable and she proceeded to finish me off while I fingered her tight little snatch. All I can say is wow! This SD / SB thing is amazing! Thank you all for your input on this thread! It has opened a whole new world with lots of opportunity.

[QUOTE=ToeLover57;2498390]Got my profile approved and have sent out 9 of 10 of my free messages to mostly under 25. I find it interesting that no one under 25 that I viewed their profile have bothered to look at mine. Whereas, I have lots of 30 plus ladies look to see who was viewing.

So far no one replied and one "favorite"added from a 38. I've tweaked my profile in hopes of better luck.

As side note, I happened to have a photo shoot set up for yesterday for quite awhile. A few hours before the shoot, I found that model on SA looking for companionship outside of her marriage. So I kept that a secret while we did our shoot. I did my best to flirt with her and see if it would lead anywhere. But never got any chemistry going. All I got was a handshake goodbye. Sticking with BP girls may be the best for me as I seem to have lost my touch with the ladies.[/QUOTE]After a slow start, it has picked up once I paid the $70. Guess that is the signal you are a serious SD. Had my first M&G with a new 19. Another m&g on Friday with her near the FC of choice.

My current stable of 4 sb's are starting to bore me. Well, all but one. I'm thinking it's a good time to cut loose the other 3 and anti up the $70 and start searching again. New babies are home for the summer looking for some sugar and dick, probably in that order. I'm going to sleep on this, but I'm leaning towards the new hunt.

Congrats. Thanks for sharing the pic. Happy for you, but you've now been cursed. Once you sample what a great SB has to offer, there is no turning back. There was a prior thread about how the bowl can consume you, and really, once you know what is possible, pandoras box cannot be shut.

[QUOTE=Banished;2501199]I have been following this thread for about 4 months now and finally took the plunge into finding a SB. I set up an account with SA about a month and a half ago and have been browsing through trying to find the right SB. Finally, this week I cam across this local SB and we set up a m&g. She was a very attractive spinner (see attached pic) and very willing to please. Upon the advice provided here, I arranged a meeting for coffee with no compensation to her. At the m&g, after chatting for a little while we took a ride in her car, with me driving, and she proceeded to provide me with an amazing BBBJ that had me going crazy. We then pulled over to a secluded space where we could be more comfortable and she proceeded to finish me off while I fingered her tight little snatch. All I can say is wow! This SD / SB thing is amazing! Thank you all for your input on this thread! It has opened a whole new world with lots of opportunity.[/QUOTE]

I was also concerned. The new SB I added to my rotation has blown my mind though (literally). I was hesitant about dropping my rotation, but right now don't have enough time to handle the m&g and FC appointments.

I've been staggering appointments in 30 minute blocks for m&gs in case the pot is a no show or ends up not looking like her pics.

Rather than trying to get a minimum wage job this summer in the service industry, it appears that the word is spreading that a young lady can make much more money and have much more fun servicing a SD.

[QUOTE=FyrGuy33;2501884]My current stable of 4 sb's are starting to bore me. Well, all but one. I'm thinking it's a good time to cut loose the other 3 and anti up the $70 and start searching again. New babies are home for the summer looking for some sugar and dick, probably in that order. I'm going to sleep on this, but I'm leaning towards the new hunt.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2502301]Congrats. Thanks for sharing the pic. Happy for you, but you've now been cursed. Once you sample what a great SB has to offer, there is no turning back. There was a prior thread about how the bowl can consume you, and really, once you know what is possible, pandoras box cannot be shut.[/QUOTE]Yes, I can see it already. This SB wants to meet up again today for BBFS and says she isn't not even concerned about compensation so long as I pay for dinner and the hotel. Am I dreaming? This seems too good to be true.

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2502308]
Rather than trying to get a minimum wage job this summer in the service industry, it appears that the word is spreading that a young lady can make much more money and have much more fun servicing a SD.[/QUOTE]Shit! There goes the price of chicken wings and a turkey club (due to labor shortage).

Bummer.

LOL.

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2502301]Congrats. Thanks for sharing the pic. Happy for you, but you've now been cursed. Once you sample what a great SB has to offer, there is no turning back. There was a prior thread about how the bowl can consume you, and really, once you know what is possible, pandoras box cannot be shut.[/QUOTE]Fellow mongers, I am a very long time lurker and first time poster. I was extremely sceptical (and still am to some extent) of how well the bowl would work for me. Today I post to tell you I am a convert. I signed up for a SA account recently and was amazed at the offerings available. I eventually pulled a woman who's actually older than I am, but looks absolutely incredible and has almost no financial demands beyond having the date covered. I haven't managed to get a young baby to the FC yet, but I imagine that will be another amazing experience. Thank you for the forum and the amazing knowledge within.

She may be a unicorn, or alternatively, she might be looking for child support. The answer probably lies somewhere in between. The one constant I've learned with women is that more often than not, I am incapable of understanding why they do what they do.

Regardless, have fun playing with that box. Sound like she is the kind of baby that will give you some times that you will never forget. Hopefully they will all be good, rather than bad memories.

[QUOTE=Banished;2502316]Yes, I can see it already. This SB wants to meet up again today for BBFS and says she isn't not even concerned about compensation so long as I pay for dinner and the hotel. Am I dreaming? This seems too good to be true.[/QUOTE]

Well, my day trip with the 20 yr old brunette was a blast. It was so much fun to be out in public with her. Folks in the stores approached us like we were a married couple. We just looked and felt so compatible.

That is the charm of the bowl. It brings you back to the glory days when you started dating hot girls.

I got a POT lined up next, 19 yr old brunette. New to the scene. Very tall with that Girl next door look. You would never guess she would be in this scene. We had our M&G and already agreed on the FC for the next date. Her private pics showed off her tight young body. I loved when I picked her up, I saw her walking towards my car, some dudes hanging out saw her too, of course they eye-fucked her too. When she got in my car, I said "Yea pricks, she's with me. ".

She mentioned that she has never been with another girl, but is willing. Hell to the YEA. Making that happen.

Until the next time I see her, I had to get serviced by one of regular gals, 25 yr old redhead. I was just in the mood for a good BBBJ. She complied.

Lining up more POTs, I am determined to make this an unforgettable summer.

So, my story ends with my thoughts on the bowl so far.

I don't know why dudes will scope out BP or CL. Risk of Stings, STD, Bait and Switch, Robbery or just doing the deed with Ulgy drug addicts should deter anybody.

Take time the learn the life of Sugar. The thrill of the chase, fresh young babes who are willing to make all fantasies come true, and all for the same price dudes would pay on BP and CL.

I will never look back. Sugar bowl has me hooked.

JL. Good to see you back. With the bowl flowing over, I suspect you've been busy with more pressing matters.

And for the record, I would gladly pay more for chicken wings and a turkey club, to ensure that there is no labor shortages in the bowl.

Welcome to a brave new world gentlemen.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2502891]Shit! There goes the price of chicken wings and a turkey club (due to labor shortage).

Bummer.

LOL.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2502301]Congrats. Thanks for sharing the pic. Happy for you, but you've now been cursed. Once you sample what a great SB has to offer, there is no turning back. There was a prior thread about how the bowl can consume you, and really, once you know what is possible, pandoras box cannot be shut.[/QUOTE]This. I'm hooked. I'm having a great time with this. I should get off my butt and post my experiences.

Getting an updated list ready.

If you want to be a part of it, please PM me with your email and some leads.

You will be amazed how much we collectively know about the girl you are trying to bed.

[QUOTE=FTP1999;2492176]Seven people helped. Just sent the email.

It helped me already.[/QUOTE]

I apparently am blind, but I've looked in the index and I don't see the definition of it.

The extremely hard to find, if not impossible, perfect SB.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2503453]I apparently am blind, but I've looked in the index and I don't see the definition of it.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CaneBay;2503463]The extremely hard to find, if not impossible, perfect SB.[/QUOTE]Hence the name. Okay thanks.

[QUOTE=IluvSmellyFish;2503414]JL. Good to see you back. With the bowl flowing over, I suspect you've been busy with more pressing matters.

And for the record, I would gladly pay more for chicken wings and a turkey club, to ensure that there is no labor shortages in the bowl.

Welcome to a brave new world gentlemen.[/QUOTE]I'm definitely guilty of the occasional lurk without even logging in, I try to scan posts every few days just to see if there's anything going on that I can meaningfully contribute to, otherwise most of the things I would typically say have probably been captured in the index thread (saving me the repetition). I'm currently in inactive status as an SD anyway, spending time with the GF and not really missing the SB much for now.

Was surprised to see it had been many days without a note from HWG, which seems uncharacteristic of him. Hopefully this means he found the ultimate ATF SB and she's been keeping him too busy to post here.

I find the 18 to 21 range flakes a lot, just curious as to what you guys are experiencing?

[QUOTE=Latex;2503883]I find the 18 to 21 range flakes a lot, just curious as to what you guys are experiencing?[/QUOTE]No question -they are the loosest, yet most difficult to nail down -pun intended. They are spoiled children just away from home in college or starting to experience real life. I love their perfect bodies but emotionally they are a mess. My ideal age is 23 to 27. They are more seasoned and not so into hanging out with their friends, and will give more of themselves to their Daddy. And they are still pretty dang fit and firm. At that age even the chubbies are firm where it counts.

[QUOTE=JeezLizard;2503615]I'm definitely guilty of the occasional lurk without even logging in, I try to scan posts every few days just to see if there's anything going on that I can meaningfully contribute to, otherwise most of the things I would typically say have probably been captured in the index thread (saving me the repetition). I'm currently in inactive status as an SD anyway, spending time with the GF and not really missing the SB much for now.

Was surprised to see it had been many days without a note from HWG, which seems uncharacteristic of him. Hopefully this means he found the ultimate ATF SB and she's been keeping him too busy to post here.[/QUOTE]Or at some of our ages that he is in good health.

[QUOTE=Latex;2503883]I find the 18 to 21 range flakes a lot, just curious as to what you guys are experiencing?[/QUOTE]You better believe it. Flake is most of their middle name.

Things seem to be moving along fine then they go silent.

And the no show for a M & G. I commented a few days ago it hasn't happened to me, and not but a couple of days later it then happened to me.

[QUOTE=Latex;2503883]I find the 18 to 21 range flakes a lot, just curious as to what you guys are experiencing?[/QUOTE]They are still fooling themselves thinking older men just want to treat them without expecting anything in return.

A year or two of student loans or menial service jobs will change their tunes.

[QUOTE=Latex;2503883]I find the 18 to 21 range flakes a lot, just curious as to what you guys are experiencing?[/QUOTE]Depends so much on the girl. Some have been the center of attention all their life so they tend to be GPS, unrealistic and flaky. Others have been mistreated by immature boyfriends and want to experiment with a mature gentlemen. Some have been abused and have "Daddy" issues and may be an emotional wreck.

I've had some great experiences with 18 - 21 SB's who really value the sexual experience of an older man.

Don't assume they are all the same, but ask a lot of questions. Nothing better than giving an 18 yo her first "O" and having her beg for more! 0.

I'd like to suggest that they all have some sort of issues, daddy or otherwise. No 18 - 21 year old is selling their muffin because they are issue-free.

Just sayin.

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;2503960]Depends so much on the girl. Some have been the center of attention all their life so they tend to be GPS, unrealistic and flaky. Others have been mistreated by immature boyfriends and want to experiment with a mature gentlemen. Some have been abused and have "Daddy" issues and may be an emotional wreck.

I've had some great experiences with 18 - 21 SB's who really value the sexual experience of an older man.

Don't assume they are all the same, but ask a lot of questions. Nothing better than giving an 18 yo her first "O" and having her beg for more! 0.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FredMoore;2503897]No question -they are the loosest, yet most difficult to nail down -pun intended. They are spoiled children just away from home in college or starting to experience real life. I love their perfect bodies but emotionally they are a mess. My ideal age is 23 to 27. They are more seasoned and not so into hanging out with their friends, and will give more of themselves to their Daddy. And they are still pretty dang fit and firm. At that age even the chubbies are firm where it counts.[/QUOTE]My experience with 18-21 year olds are that they are either GPS, flakes, have massive attitude or are too scared to take it beyond email. God help them LOL.

I have been in the Sugar Bowl for exactly 1 year and here is my economic segmentation:

Latex Economic Scale:

LES 1: Generally uneducated only high school or college drop outs. Work in the service industry (food, hair, retail). Less than 15 K per year income. Constantly worried about rent, gas money, food money, party money.

LES 2: These SBs are in college and have the basics taken care of by loans, grants, parents. They have part time jobs to supplement their income. They want for nails, hair cuts, travel money, concert money, etc. Less than 15 K per year.

LES 3: This includes college grads that realize that degrees in fashion design, liberal arts, social work etc. Are do not lead to a career. They generally do find jobs but make less than 35 K. Their income only pays for rent, food, car, loans they have no money for fun or buying stuff. The men they meet expect them to split the check mostly because they don't make much either.

LES 4: These women are educated and work but due to a divorce and kids they have trouble making ends meet. They usually get child support payments but their total income is between 20 K - 50 K. Strippers also fall in this category.

LES 5: College educated and in careers that pay 40 K - 75 K, they have major loans to pay off. The men their age do not spoil them.

LES 6: Have well paying jobs 50 K - 120 K. They just seek NSA fun and companionship, maybe a long term relationship.

Look forward to everyones input and maybe I will modify this initlal draft a bit.

I have run into all 6 LES levels and find that 3 and 4 seem to be the most desirable from my perspective.

LES 1 are Flakes, LES 2 are a bit spoiled, LES 5 request high allowance.

LES 6 can be fun but hard to find.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2503901]You better believe it. Flake is most of their middle name.

Things seem to be moving along fine then they go silent.

And the no show for a M & G. I commented a few days ago it hasn't happened to me, and not but a couple of days later it then happened to me.[/QUOTE]Have to agree that the majority of the 18-21 crowd are flakes, but the ones that's aren't, whew, hold on tight.

The current reliable one in my rotation is unreal. Tomorrow is our regular date day and I've been looking forward to it all week, even with the others that I have. If the last few times are any indication it'll be 6-8 hours of ridiculous sex. To this point, after 3 previous "dates" I have a total of $140 invested. Feels like I've spent more in condoms. LOL.

[QUOTE=Mike7794;2503516]Hence the name. Okay thanks.[/QUOTE]I have checked the abbr & even googled LOL, been reading here a while and have had a sa account now for a few months, now to the point can someone please enlighten me as to what a pot & gps are?

[QUOTE=KingGreg;2491518]FTP, I think this is what we should be posting here as well. There is similar one I posted on VCU SB Hannah.

There are few others in Virginia area like this. May be we can create a list of such profile. That might help brothers to avoid those SBs.

Other lesson is...do not give or show money until the date is over.[/QUOTE]Is she using a new account now?

Well, I had one of my fantasies fulfilled today. I never "F"ed two different girls the same day. Well I can now add that to my war stories.

For lunch, I met my with my regular 25 yr old redhead. Did a quick visit with FS. No problem being at her place.

Then the new girl I met yesterday, I wrote about earlier. Tall 19 yr old brunette. Well, she texted me that she was free late afternoon. I didn't think I would have it in me, but went for it. Got a local notel, and proceeded to the FC.

This girl has amazing body. No tattoos, shaved, perfect see cups, tasted sweet in the Va Jay Jay. While I'm banging her mish style, I'm just watching this girl enjoy herself. She has that young natural fresh look. How in the world could this be any better?

We are cuddling and I'm just in awe with her body. This one is a keeper.

While she is taking a shower, I'm chatting it up 3 other POTs. 20 yr old blonde, 28 yr old brunette, and another 19 yr old brunette.

This sugar bowl is nuts!!

[QUOTE=BlueFalcon123;2504394]Well, I had one of my fantasies fulfilled today. I never "F"ed two different girls the same day. Well I can now add that to my war stories.

For lunch, I met my with my regular 25 yr old redhead. Did a quick visit with FS. No problem being at her place.

Then the new girl I met yesterday, I wrote about earlier. Tall 19 yr old brunette. Well, she texted me that she was free late afternoon. I didn't think I would have it in me, but went for it. Got a local notel, and proceeded to the FC.

This girl has amazing body. No tattoos, shaved, perfect see cups, tasted sweet in the Va Jay Jay. While I'm banging her mish style, I'm just watching this girl enjoy herself. She has that young natural fresh look. How in the world could this be any better?

We are cuddling and I'm just in awe with her body. This one is a keeper.

While she is taking a shower, I'm chatting it up 3 other POTs. 20 yr old blonde, 28 yr old brunette, and another 19 yr old brunette.

This sugar bowl is nuts!![/QUOTE]Damn. You are good. Lucky you. For 2 in a day! What city you live?

POTs = Potential Sugar.

GPS = Golden Pussy Syndrome. I. e. The girl thinks you should mortgage your house to pay for access to her pussy. Once identified. You drop them fast.

[QUOTE=SemperFidelis;2504362]I have checked the abbr & even googled LOL, been reading here a while and have had a sa account now for a few months,
now to the point can someone please enlighten me as to what a pot & gps are?[/QUOTE]

Any idea what birthday present to get for young SB without breaking the bank?

Rates and deepness of the pool varies greatly by location.

Please mention the region / city in which you are playing so we can make best use of the intel.

[QUOTE=Latex;2504204]I have been in the Sugar Bowl for exactly 1 year and here is my economic segmentation:

Latex Economic Scale:

LES 1: Generally uneducated only high school or college drop outs. Work in the service industry (food, hair, retail). Less than 15 K per year income. Constantly worried about rent, gas money, food money, party money.

LES 2: These SBs are in college and have the basics taken care of by loans, grants, parents. They have part time jobs to supplement their income. They want for nails, hair cuts, travel money, concert money, etc. Less than 15 K per year.

LES 3: This includes college grads that realize that degrees in fashion design, liberal arts, social work etc. Are do not lead to a career. They generally do find jobs but make less than 35 K. Their income only pays for rent, food, car, loans they have no money for fun or buying stuff. The men they meet expect them to split the check mostly because they don't make much either.

LES 4: These women are educated and work but due to a divorce and kids they have trouble making ends meet. They usually get child support payments but their total income is between 20 K - 50 K. Strippers also fall in this category.

LES 5: College educated and in careers that pay 40 K - 75 K, they have major loans to pay off. The men their age do not spoil them.

LES 6: Have well paying jobs 50 K - 120 K. They just seek NSA fun and companionship, maybe a long term relationship.

Look forward to everyones input and maybe I will modify this initlal draft a bit.

I have run into all 6 LES levels and find that 3 and 4 seem to be the most desirable from my perspective.

LES 1 are Flakes, LES 2 are a bit spoiled, LES 5 request high allowance.

LES 6 can be fun but hard to find.[/QUOTE]I'd say this pretty much covers it, but there is another category to add that is a hybrid.

The Graduate Student! Especially those over 25. They have had a few years of LES 2 & 3 and realized they wanted more out of life and eventually want to be LES 6's. Much less flaky than undergrad girls, often have internships or research work that puts them further in the financial hole and are mature enough to know what this really is and have been fucked enough to know how much they like it and may even be sex maniacs looking to get some cash for their lust.