Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[QUOTE=GoaThillBilly;7251750]Is it just me or are more and more providers not allowing this? Seems like 90% say no.[/QUOTE]You never know what is out there.

I really enjoy DATY, but I'm even starting to worry if the risk is worth the reward.

[QUOTE=GoaThillBilly;7251750]Is it just me or are more and more providers not allowing this? Seems like 90% say no.[/QUOTE]It is unAmerican IMHO.

[QUOTE=GoaThillBilly;7251750]Is it just me or are more and more providers not allowing this? Seems like 90% say no.[/QUOTE]Lots of providers not doing it or upcharging which I've only seen here. LA and SD scene completely different IME.

[QUOTE=TheRealSG;7246300]Having been in relationships with a couple of since retired providers I will say this.

One said 90% of the BBFS information about her was true. The other said that she would do BBFS with regulars so most of it was true. They both said the one thing they hated were guys that just "expected it. " Especially new clients. This is what makes providers upset.

They wished the info was not out there but they understood why it was.

They thought that most of the information here was true.

The back channel information is strong. Most providers do BBFS.

Only a few long time managed women don't.
ocked to know who is or has been pimped.[/QUOTE]100% truth right here.

[QUOTE=Runner2448;7253724]Lots of providers not doing it or upcharging which I've only seen here. LA and SD scene completely different IME.[/QUOTE]I have rarely been turned down for BBBJ.

Some are just more cautious.

I make it clear that I want that prior.

I have excellent refs. These women need money. All the hispanic travelling girls will do BBBJ. Many will do BBFS for upcharge. You just can't talk about it because if you do you may get blacklisted by the agency. So you got to be careful. The ones that stick around and dance at Kittens will do BBFS. Same rules apply. Columbians will be the best bet for BBFS.

Almost all the local long time providers do BBBJ. Their business is getting crushed by the hot travelling girls and the AMPs that charge 200-260 and may include BBFS for that.

Now my jam is rawdogging as many different chicks as possible. So I am willing to pay upcharges to get safety chicks to take creampies. I have one handle on tna that is a well known barebacker. I have several others with little activity. This gets the women to think the can lock me down and that I am not a big risk.

Just remember. Most have men or pimps in their lives. They don't like their girls taking loads. Girls know what is up tho.

[QUOTE=BbKingg;7253985]I have rarely been turned down for BBBJ.

Some are just more cautious.

I make it clear that I want that prior.

I have excellent refs. These women need money. All the hispanic travelling girls will do BBBJ. Many will do BBFS for upcharge. You just can't talk about it because if you do you may get blacklisted by the agency. So you got to be careful. The ones that stick around and dance at Kittens will do BBFS. Same rules apply. Columbians will be the best bet for BBFS.

Almost all the local long time providers do BBBJ. Their business is getting crushed by the hot travelling girls and the AMPs that charge 200-260 and may include BBFS for that.

Now my jam is rawdogging as many different chicks as possible. So I am willing to pay upcharges to get safety chicks to take creampies. I have one handle on tna that is a well known barebacker. I have several others with little activity. This gets the women to think the can lock me down and that I am not a big risk.

Just remember. Most have men or pimps in their lives. They don't like their girls taking loads. Girls know what is up tho.[/QUOTE]Good intel here. Did not know Columbians were easier for BBFS or Kttens for that matter. I do not go to strip clubs, but always had the mental picture that if she dances, she will probably want a lot to do bare (Monse being the exception). Columbian. Just reminds me of Judge Cannon. Wonder if any of those Columbians are into cosplay.

[QUOTE=TheRealSG;7253557]It is unAmerican IMHO.[/QUOTE]LOL did you mean DATY is unAmerican OR is refusing it / "charging extra for it" is unAmerican?

Usually a "no DATY" provider is a provider that has a jealous and insecure boyfriend / manager / pimp.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;7254187]Usually a "no DATY" provider is a provider that has a jealous and insecure boyfriend / manager / pimp.[/QUOTE]Yeah I think that is true, there are some though who like to upcharge for every service and they KNOW a lot of men love DATY and will pay extra for it. Katerine G is a good example of a GREAT provider that has a lot of fun in bed, but will upcharge you for every little thing (or atleast she tries). Although I called out Kat in this thread, there are many other women who do the same. I personally do not see providers who ruin the mood. I mean just tell me what your price is upfront, we all know you do it. Stop nickel and diming me!!

The following is a rant about something we've all probably dealt with in regarding to providers. I'm preaching to the choir, but I want to ***** for just a moment.

I've been seeing a hot little Puerto Rican spinner for over a year now. She's a good time, does everything I like with enthusiasm and our socializing is good too. A few days ago she contacted me and asked if I would see her and I agreed. As we got ready for action I was feeling around her nether parts with my finger and I felt something protruding from within her pussy. I asked her what it was and she said, "oh, that's a vibrator". A vibrator? I asked her if she could take it out, there was no way I was going to get up inside her with that thing in her and she said, "oh, it'll be okay, it'll just get pushed-up". I was really confused, there was no way this was going to work. So I insisted and she complied, pulling out what turned out to be a menstrual cup. I asked her if she were on her period and she said that she was close to her time so she wanted to put one in just in case. I asked her why she lied to me about trying to convince me that it was a vibrator and that I could just "push it up insider her" with my dick. It would have been uncomfortable for my dick at the least as well as for her. Now I didn't trust her, fearing that she was actually on her period and I wasn't going to go in raw under those conditions. So I stopped the date and complained that this was [I]her[/I] idea to meet, she could have easily waited until her period had ended instead of trying to play me for a fool. And now she still expects me to pay her. I paid her about a quarter of her rate and told her that if she wanted me as a regular she'd honor that. These providers just think we're dumb and think that we'll all believe and just go along with everything they tell us. "Oh, it's a vibrator, it'll be okay". Uh huh. Meanwhile, I can't get my cock in there with that plastic fucking handle poking me. Jesus.

[QUOTE=Hoballer;7255104]The following is a rant about something we've all probably dealt with in regarding to providers. I'm preaching to the choir, but I want to ***** for just a moment.

I've been seeing a hot little Puerto Rican spinner for over a year now. She's a good time, does everything I like with enthusiasm and our socializing is good too. A few days ago she contacted me and asked if I would see her and I agreed. As we got ready for action I was feeling around her nether parts with my finger and I felt something protruding from within her pussy. I asked her what it was and she said, "oh, that's a vibrator". A vibrator? I asked her if she could take it out, there was no way I was going to get up inside her with that thing in her and she said, "oh, it'll be okay, it'll just get pushed-up". I was really confused, there was no way this was going to work. So I insisted and she complied, pulling out what turned out to be a menstrual cup. I asked her if she were on her period and she said that she was close to her time so she wanted to put one in just in case. I asked her why she lied to me about trying to convince me that it was a vibrator and that I could just "push it up insider her" with my dick. It would have been uncomfortable for my dick at the least as well as for her. Now I didn't trust her, fearing that she was actually on her period and I wasn't going to go in raw under those conditions. So I stopped the date and complained that this was [I]her[/I] idea to meet, she could have easily waited until her period had ended instead of trying to play me for a fool. And now she still expects me to pay her. I paid her about a quarter of her rate and told her that if she wanted me as a regular she'd honor that. These providers just think we're dumb and think that we'll all believe and just go along with everything they tell us. "Oh, it's a vibrator, it'll be okay". Uh huh. Meanwhile, I can't get my cock in there with that plastic fucking handle poking me. Jesus.[/QUOTE]You shoulda barebacked the bunghole.

[QUOTE=Hoballer;7255104]The following is a rant about something we've all probably dealt with in regarding to providers. I'm preaching to the choir, but I want to ***** for just a moment.

I've been seeing a hot little Puerto Rican spinner for over a year now. She's a good time, does everything I like with enthusiasm and our socializing is good too. A few days ago she contacted me and asked if I would see her and I agreed. As we got ready for action I was feeling around her nether parts with my finger and I felt something protruding from within her pussy. I asked her what it was and she said, "oh, that's a vibrator". A vibrator? I asked her if she could take it out, there was no way I was going to get up inside her with that thing in her and she said, "oh, it'll be okay, it'll just get pushed-up". I was really confused, there was no way this was going to work. So I insisted and she complied, pulling out what turned out to be a menstrual cup. I asked her if she were on her period and she said that she was close to her time so she wanted to put one in just in case. I asked her why she lied to me about trying to convince me that it was a vibrator and that I could just "push it up insider her" with my dick. It would have been uncomfortable for my dick at the least as well as for her. Now I didn't trust her, fearing that she was actually on her period and I wasn't going to go in raw under those conditions. So I stopped the date and complained that this was [I]her[/I] idea to meet, she could have easily waited until her period had ended instead of trying to play me for a fool. And now she still expects me to pay her. I paid her about a quarter of her rate and told her that if she wanted me as a regular she'd honor that. These providers just think we're dumb and think that we'll all believe and just go along with everything they tell us. "Oh, it's a vibrator, it'll be okay". Uh huh. Meanwhile, I can't get my cock in there with that plastic fucking handle poking me. Jesus.[/QUOTE]Gross. Yeah she does not deserve a dime. She clearly tried lying and then got caught trying to hide it. Don't these people play the situation out in their minds, how did she think this would turn out? As Morohei said. You should have BB'd her bunghole for pulling a stunt like that. I know DirtyFuk is reading this thread and drooling over the red-wings. .

[QUOTE=DrtyHarry;7255186]. I know DirtyFuk is reading this thread and drooling over the red-wings. .[/QUOTE]Haha! Fuck yeah he is.

[QUOTE=KitWalker1967;7246696]*Bursts out laughing*.

The white knight mentality could easily be some student's dissertation. Facts are that if one of those chicks on the other board thinks you're attractive, likes what you're packing and thinks it would be alright if you were one of her regulars, she's eventually going to climb on you bare.

Now are you still merely a walking & talking rent / mortgage payment? Definitely.

Does it potentially sweeten the deal if there's something about you that she likes? Also yes.[/QUOTE]On a thread about getting a provider pregnant some simp said something like " their profile says no BBFS so the must not do it. "Uh huh. Sure buddy. Clueless.

Most do it.

[QUOTE=Barnie;7261891]On a thread about getting a provider pregnant some simp said something like " their profile says no BBFS so the must not do it. "Uh huh. Sure buddy. Clueless.

Most do it.[/QUOTE]Idiots. All of them.