Don't know why this tread feels like going under water. Lack of new faces? Taxes? Lack of reports? Personally for me I stop seeing providers because of their management. What is your position?
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Don't know why this tread feels like going under water. Lack of new faces? Taxes? Lack of reports? Personally for me I stop seeing providers because of their management. What is your position?
[QUOTE=Bbb1617;4673582]Don't know why this tread feels like going under water. Lack of new faces? Taxes? Lack of reports? Personally for me I stop seeing providers because of their management. What is your position?[/QUOTE]Taxes? Haha. Honestly for me, it's price increase, which is not much but when combined with risk of disappointment, it's just a turn-off. But I was never super active like some of the others here.
[QUOTE=Bbb1617;4673582]Don't know why this tread feels like going under water. Lack of new faces? Taxes? Lack of reports? Personally for me I stop seeing providers because of their management. What is your position?[/QUOTE]Lack of talent. Inessa at 2X2 was the high point for these providers. Downhill since then.
[QUOTE=Bbb1617;4673582]Don't know why this tread feels like going under water. Lack of new faces? Taxes? Lack of reports? Personally for me I stop seeing providers because of their management. What is your position?[/QUOTE]The days of finding reliable, gorgeous, affordable girls are long gone. Even just a few years ago you could still find a few girls that were nice and affordable. If you find a girl (s) like this these days just keep seeing them. The new crop of girls entering the business have GPS syndrome or are previous working girls that are returning. But are way past their prime.
My position is that these agencies strayed from their original business model which was bringing early 20's thin and attractive girls to give body rub service. They changed to offering 30 and 40 year old hardened escorts instead. And that's something I'm not really interested in. The pipeline appears to be broken and as others have explained, it may never return due to socioeconomic and political environments.
To give them some credit, there have been recently some very pretty sweet and low mileage gals, just few and far in between. Emily is back and I can personally vouch she's about as hot of a provider as you will ever get. Limited menu but well worth the price of admission. Curious about Zara, supposed to be a hot Colombian, but no reports so not going to pull the trigger. Can't trust the booker for shit.
Generally speaking, 2 x2 has raised the damage without raising the talent. Not exactly a good business model in an very competitive market. As I mentioned before; 2 x2 damage for entrance fee is just about what others will chagre for A LOT MORE TIME AND SERVICES!! That is why I pretty much gave up on them.
Secondly the booker treats long term clients like crap, no apologies for fake pictures, fake promises, rebranding talent. Nothing. What 2 x2 is becoming a client churn and burn agency. I hope they do come around and bring back the young talent and reasonable rates, but from what other have said, that boat has left long ago.
[QUOTE=ApplePiePussy;4673821]My position is that these agencies strayed from their original business model which was bringing early 20's thin and attractive girls to give body rub service. They changed to offering 30 and 40 year old hardened escorts instead. And that's something I'm not really interested in. The pipeline appears to be broken and as others have explained, it may never return due to socioeconomic and political environments.[/QUOTE]I wonder if social media has anything to do with the change. How many of the hot 20 somethings are making enough money just posting on insta and occasionally seeing a sugar daddy who slides into their DM's. I wonder if the agency can only get the older hardend escorts because the young ones just aren't interested anymore.
[QUOTE=TBone83;4675218]I wonder if social media has anything to do with the change. How many of the hot 20 somethings are making enough money just posting on insta and occasionally seeing a sugar daddy who slides into their DM's. I wonder if the agency can only get the older hardend escorts because the young ones just aren't interested anymore.[/QUOTE]I know that in Ukraine and Russia the attractive girls are getting bombed with offers from men. Men from around the world. Men that don't even plan visiting those countries. When I was there the girls I knew were getting Mohammads sending them money each day. These dudes were so needy. And the girls would pay attention to them for a couple minutes and get funded. They also get free trips to Turkey and Dubai. Even some of my workers in my office in Europe received trips to Dubai to "play". They came back with some cash and expensive Gucci or Louis Vuitton. Girls are * it's just about the price. They all cave in eventually. The hot ones get all things handed to them in life. They don't need to come here and be slaves. The average ones are the only girls interested in coming to this country. But the UK is more attractive. Americans tend to think immigrants are so lucky to come to "the best country in the world" But the way Immigration officials treat you when entering the country is very humiliating. Even for citizens coming back from trips abroad. So why should hotties even come? They don't want to really work a job. They can live a way better life in there own country or if necessary go to Germany and make money. With all these apps and websites there is just so many opportunities for hotties to get that cash.
And don't forget the local dudes have money too. Lots of IT workers are under 25 and they are making $3000 to $6000 per month. The market is so hot for skilled workers that HR managers are not able to find enough people. They are actually importing Indians into Eastern Europe and the Balkans. And they are getting paid as well. SO the attractive women can simply hook up with a nice young man and have whatever they want. The Euro agencies and massage businesses will only have old women and average women to offer.
[URL]https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-brand-new-anna-43266[/URL]
262 has a new girl starting today. She's American. I might try.
[URL]https://twitter.com/EliteSecretCa[/URL]
MA posted a comment for you.
[QUOTE=Riina;4682396][URL]https://twitter.com/EliteSecretCa[/URL]
MA posted a comment for you.[/QUOTE]And that Katherina is not a medical student visiting from London.
[QUOTE=Riina;4682309][URL]https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-brand-new-anna-43266[/URL]
262 has a new girl starting today. She's American. I might try.[/QUOTE]Let me (and us) know how it goes. I'm free tomorrow afternoon and would like to see someone, maybe her? Also Agata just showed up! I still want to see Emily.
[QUOTE=Riina;4682309][URL]https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-brand-new-anna-43266[/URL]
262 has a new girl starting today. She's American. I might try.[/QUOTE]A couple of new visitors, at the minimum of the agency keeps me interested, have to give them credit for that. I wonder if anyone else thinks that Tifiny is a rebranded Ilona? I Dreamt of Tiffany. Her full service is decent, she's a little reserved. But She was very tight, no baby damage at all. Love that!! I had to keep thinking of my texts to file in order to not finish too soon.
[QUOTE=TJGeek;4682410]And that Katherina is not a medical student visiting from London.[/QUOTE]I can confirm she's not from London. IF Sandra is going to bullshit, how about a more glamorous city like Paris.
MA is marketing a duo. Neither girl is into girls. So I'd take a pass.
[QUOTE=Riina;4682878]I can confirm she's not from London. IF Sandra is going to bullshit, how about a more glamorous city like Paris.[/QUOTE]Just saying, London isn't the worst 😂128514;.
[QUOTE=Oramo;4682747] I wonder if anyone else thinks that Tifiny is a rebranded Ilona? [/QUOTE]Different girls, but very similar type.
[QUOTE=Riina;4683433]Different girls, but very similar type.[/QUOTE]Tiffany is younger and now lives in Texas. Ilona is older and lives in Chicago.
Saw her today! [URL]https://modelingave.escortbook.com/model-estelle-35077[/URL].
Tried to get a 2 on 1 with Katherina but time did not work out.
Estelle is as depicted in the pictures. Mellow in a good way and easy to warm up to. Relaxing massage before and after was a nice bonus. Oral skills left me shaking. Unrushed CFS in a few positions, some time in 69, Limited FIV (not deep) but made up for it with her kisses! Great way to start the weekend.
For me, MA provides the most consistent experience.
[QUOTE=Riina;4682309][URL]https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-brand-new-anna-43266[/URL]
262 has a new girl starting today. She's American. I might try.[/QUOTE]How was Anna? Did anyone partake? Thanks.
Saw her today: [URL]https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-elin-northbrook-last-2-day-43307[/URL].
Not disappointed! Pictures are her but she is much leaner and breasts are natural (either the advertising pictures are enhanced or she lost weight, or both). Only did HHR due to time limitations but should have done full HR. CBJ with tongue action on the sac, some FIV, light kisses, then CFS every which way. She is very responsive! Says she will be around for a few months so I will see her again.
[QUOTE=TJGeek;4691406]Saw her today: [URL]https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-elin-northbrook-last-2-day-43307[/URL].
Not disappointed! Pictures are her but she is much leaner and breasts are natural (either the advertising pictures are enhanced or she lost weight, or both). Only did HHR due to time limitations but should have done full HR. CBJ with tongue action on the sac, some FIV, light kisses, then CFS every which way. She is very responsive! Says she will be around for a few months so I will see her again.[/QUOTE]Way to take the plunge. You were rewarded for the risk. Her breasts in the pics are phenomenal!!
[QUOTE=Oramo;4691780]Way to take the plunge. You were rewarded for the risk. Her breasts in the pics are phenomenal!![/QUOTE]Yes, but in reality, they are smaller and "natural", but still worth seeing!
[QUOTE=Oramo;4691780]Way to take the plunge. You were rewarded for the risk. Her breasts in the pics are phenomenal!![/QUOTE]Did you pay for the 1/2 hour massage or VIP? Curious what the massage price offers and wanting to see the new blonde Nelli in Lombard.
[QUOTE=Donger999;4689619]How was Anna? Did anyone partake? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Really? No one?
For those of you that like NG they have new talents in Martha's place.
[URL]https://chicago.rubratings.com/164743-[/URL] I was really interested to see this one but. To busy, so I had to book the other one [URL]https://chicago.rubratings.com/164461-[/URL] She is nice at first meet, too much of eyelashes for me and heavily on the make up. Nice body and breast bigger ass for my taste but for most of you I know its preferable. If you look at her pics see the one on the jetsky.
Her English is limited and she handed me a list of services. Nice to note that most is on the table like BBBJ or anal but at a cost. We agreed on $$$ everything and as I was ready to enter thtu the backdoor she stopped me and said we didn't agree on it. Oh well I was out in like 20 min total and back here to share with you my loses. Took one for the team. She is a hardened ho because was sharing stories from europe how she is working with other gals. She was looking at me strange as I was dressing up to leave, wondering why I don't stay longer. I was so pissed of her attitude. At some point she was like. I am making the rules here and yada yada. I guess I am getting older or smarter to just shut up and let go. Didn't even wanted to explain her anything, its pointless. Don't pay up front to someone that don't fu. Speek english.
[QUOTE=TJGeek;4691406]Saw her today: [URL]https://classyladiesofchicago.escortbook.com/model-new-elin-northbrook-last-2-day-43307[/URL].
Not disappointed! Pictures are her but she is much leaner and breasts are natural (either the advertising pictures are enhanced or she lost weight, or both). Only did HHR due to time limitations but should have done full HR. CBJ with tongue action on the sac, some FIV, light kisses, then CFS every which way. She is very responsive! Says she will be around for a few months so I will see her again.[/QUOTE]Saw Elin this afternoon, and concur with the above. Maybe a little too much makeup for my tastes, and limited english, but all in all a great time. She's very enthusiastic, even to the point of working hard to make junior twice. Didn't happen, but not because of her lack of trying. Tall girl, great boobs and body. Maybe a tad skinny. As TJ mentions her pics were probably 10 pounds ago, and she could have probably kept those pounds.
Lots of DATY, FIV, FIO. Think I made her come, she's a good actress if not (either way works for me). Multiple positions, CBJ, light kissing, and actually a decent massage after round 1.
Said she'd be in town 3 more weeks, and then back in September. Well worth the visit.
[QUOTE=ErvsBlues;4693292]Saw Elin this afternoon, and concur with the above. Maybe a little too much makeup for my tastes, and limited english, but all in all a great time. She's very enthusiastic, even to the point of working hard to make junior twice. Didn't happen, but not because of her lack of trying. Tall girl, great boobs and body. Maybe a tad skinny. As TJ mentions her pics were probably 10 pounds ago, and she could have probably kept those pounds.
Lots of DATY, FIV, FIO. Think I made her come, she's a good actress if not (either way works for me). Multiple positions, CBJ, light kissing, and actually a decent massage after round 1.
Said she'd be in town 3 more weeks, and then back in September. Well worth the visit.[/QUOTE]Hows the screening process at 262? I want to try the agency but not sure of the screening process.
[QUOTE=StevoGabe;4693369]Hows the screening process at 262? I want to try the agency but not sure of the screening process.[/QUOTE]No screening for me. Texted request for appointment, a couple of rounds of follow up texts and in.
[QUOTE=MwmChicago;4692983]Did you pay for the 1/2 hour massage or VIP? Curious what the massage price offers and wanting to see the new blonde Nelli in Lombard.[/QUOTE]VIP includes CFS.
[QUOTE=MwmChicago;4692983]Did you pay for the 1/2 hour massage or VIP? Curious what the massage price offers and wanting to see the new blonde Nelli in Lombard.[/QUOTE]Paid for HHR VIP. I saw Nellie twice and enjoyed her also. But I would see Elin before she leaves.
[QUOTE=Donger999;4693123]Really? No one?[/QUOTE]Give me a few more days! You guys are so impatient. Liza and Emily are also on the list. Agata / Alice was also but seems to have disappeared.
[QUOTE=Bbb1617;4693246]For those of you that like NG they have new talents in Martha's place.
[URL]https://chicago.rubratings.com/164743-[/URL] I was really interested to see this one but. To busy, so I had to book the other one [URL]https://chicago.rubratings.com/164461-[/URL] She is nice at first meet, too much of eyelashes for me and heavily on the make up. Nice body and breast bigger ass for my taste but for most of you I know its preferable. If you look at her pics see the one on the jetsky.
Her English is limited and she handed me a list of services. Nice to note that most is on the table like BBBJ or anal but at a cost. We agreed on $$$ everything and as I was ready to enter thtu the backdoor she stopped me and said we didn't agree on it. Oh well I was out in like 20 min total and back here to share with you my loses. Took one for the team. She is a hardened ho because was sharing stories from europe how she is working with other gals. She was looking at me strange as I was dressing up to leave, wondering why I don't stay longer. I was so pissed of her attitude. At some point she was like. I am making the rules here and yada yada. I guess I am getting older or smarter to just shut up and let go. Didn't even wanted to explain her anything, its pointless. Don't pay up front to someone that don't fu. Speek english.[/QUOTE]Thanks for TOFTT! I was trying to reach her yesterday but no luck (I assume this is her, your links went to 404: [URL]https://chicago.rubratings.com/164461[/URL]).
I did talk to her ([URL]https://chicago.rubratings.com/164759[/URL]) but attitude on phone turned me off.
We need some better NG soon. But MA and 262 is doing OK now.
[QUOTE=ErvsBlues;4693292]Saw Elin this afternoon, and concur with the above. Maybe a little too much makeup for my tastes, and limited english, but all in all a great time. She's very enthusiastic, even to the point of working hard to make junior twice. Didn't happen, but not because of her lack of trying. Tall girl, great boobs and body. Maybe a tad skinny. As TJ mentions her pics were probably 10 pounds ago, and she could have probably kept those pounds.
Lots of DATY, FIV, FIO. Think I made her come, she's a good actress if not (either way works for me). Multiple positions, CBJ, light kissing, and actually a decent massage after round 1.
Said she'd be in town 3 more weeks, and then back in September. Well worth the visit.[/QUOTE]Did you see her for a HH or HR? I'd love to see this girl!
[QUOTE=VanillaLover;4693853]Did you see her for a HH or HR? I'd love to see this girl![/QUOTE]Saw Elin for an hour. Prices as listed on their site.
[QUOTE=TJGeek;4693852]Thanks for TOFTT! I was trying to reach her yesterday but no luck (I assume this is her, your links went to 404: [URL]https://chicago.rubratings.com/164461[/URL]).
I did talk to her ([URL]https://chicago.rubratings.com/164759[/URL]) but attitude on phone turned me off.
We need some better NG soon. But MA and 262 is doing OK now.[/QUOTE]Here is the one I saw https: // chicago. [URL]rubratings.com[/URL]/164461 and the other one that I wanted to see [URL]https://chicago.rubratings.com/164743[/URL].
I have a question. Given prices at these agencies, what's the point of using them? Just trying to understand what I am missing. For xxx5 you can have a great, guaranteed GFE / PSE session at an agency vs 2 x2 and 5 x0?
[QUOTE=Pupsnu;4698559]I have a question. Given prices at these agencies, what's the point of using them? Just trying to understand what I am missing. For xxx5 you can have a great, guaranteed GFE / PSE session at an agency vs 2 x2 and 5 x0?[/QUOTE]262 is more open to risk with customers and girls. Prices are high, but way more variety than other agencies like MA and screening is light.
[QUOTE=Pupsnu;4698559]I have a question. Given prices at these agencies, what's the point of using them? Just trying to understand what I am missing. For xxx5 you can have a great, guaranteed GFE / PSE session at an agency vs 2 x2 and 5 x0?[/QUOTE]Not many agencies that match 2 x2 and 5 x0's half hour damage, even with upgrades. But I could be wrong- like to hear views from others.
[QUOTE=Ppete8231;4698966]Not many agencies that match 2 x2 and 5 x0's half hour damage, even with upgrades. But I could be wrong- like to hear views from others.[/QUOTE]Up to recently the damage was 140 to 150 for hh, which usually included BBBJ. That and the talent offered was a good deal. The locations are convenient for traffic and parking.
It was great to be able too see a young fresh European early in the day for a quick 1/2 visit assuming FS is not an absolute requirement. IMO the cost of admission to be naked and intimate with a 25 year old model from Europe was.
Well worth it.
However lately the damage has gone up to 2 bills for same service. That and the lower quality of talent, Booker not being honest or appreciative of long term customers has made the 1/2 dear not worth while.
As I mentioned before for 2 Bills one can find an Hour of FS.