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Yep...I concur> I see guys going to escorts for $250-$300 per shot for cbj or sex. Hell I get to bb anal some cute girls for $50-60! Besides being a sex addict I get the thrill of the hunt. I get tired of the same girl and dating is very expensive not to mention marriage, kids, etc... I figure i've had sex or bj's with at least a few hundred women in my life so i'm a pretty lucky guy.

On the negative side I've gotten a few social diseases, the hobby probably keeps me from seeking some emotional attachment and I was a crack head for 6-7 months and ruined a career or two along the way. I wouldn't recommend sw's to anyone but at the same time I wouldn't advocate jerking off to internet porn in excess either. Hell, if I won the lottery tomorrow I'd spend all my time golfing, watching espn and fucking high priced escorts all day long....

Sir P and Cowchip, you guys are braver and prob. more street smart than me. My fears about a police sting, robbery, STD, etc. have prevented me from attempting. While MPs aren't idiot proof, I feel safer there than w/a SW to the point where it becomes worthwhile to spend more often just less frequently.

[QUOTE=Beisbolboy]Sir P and Cowchip, you guys are braver and prob. more street smart than me. My fears about a police sting, robbery, STD, etc. have prevented me from attempting. While MPs aren't idiot proof, I feel safer there than w/a SW to the point where it becomes worthwhile to spend more often just less frequently.[/QUOTE]

Beisbolboy: "safety" in this hobby is all a matter of perception or misconceptions.

I for example, find the AMP/MPs to be a very scary proposition. Reason: Traceability. Most of them have cameras both in the establishmnets and watching out on the parking lots, along with the keeping of credit card receipts and phone call records from customers that pre reserve massage times. All are made easily available by subpoena when they get busted (and most eventually do). Disease? Don't even get me going on that one! An AMP/CL girl will turn an average of 5-10 tricks a day, 5-7 days a week! that's 25-70 guys a week!! SWs may not be as pretty in general, but they only tend to be out for 1-3 tricks a day or until they have enough for rent/drugs or food, so less traffic on the pussy. The fallacy here is that AMP/CL girls don't get diseases and don't do drugs! Wake up! They ALL DO IT. Stings; read the Rockford thread and see what the cops did to that place and all the AMPs, they are huge targets for the cops because of the reputation that many are most dealing in human trafficking, a real buzz word these days in the media.

It comes down to this: you may get a bed or table, maybe even a better looking face to fuck, and you don't have to hunt all night, I guess its all about what one is willing to pay for. But don't fool yourself, safety isn't one of the benefits. You have less chance of being carjacked, but your records are parts of the AMPs business files for a long time. I'll take my chances in my car and remain anonymous

A 17-year-old girl Racine girl was arrested by police Wednesday after she allegedly tried to sell herself to a cab driver, and then attempted to rob him.

XXXXXXXXXX is charged with attempted armed robbery with the use of force, prostitution and possession of drug paraphernalia. If convicted, she faces up to 45 years in prison.

According to the criminal complaint, Racine police were called Wednesday to the area of Washington Avenue and Packard Avenue for an attempted robbery. The officer was flagged down by a cab driver who said a woman, later identified as [blue][Name(s) deleted by Admin][/blue], got into his cab and offered him sex for $20.

The cab driver refused and repeatedly asked [blue][Name(s) deleted by Admin][/blue] to get out of his cab, according to reports. [blue][Name(s) deleted by Admin][/blue] allegedly took out a knife and demanded the driver’s money. When he said he didn’t have any, she got out of the cab and walked away.

Police said [blue][Name(s) deleted by Admin][/blue] was detained by officers. A pipe of the kind commonly used to smoke crack cocaine was found in her pocket.

[size=-2][b][u]EDITOR'S NOTE[/u]:[/b] [blue]This report was edited to [u]remove the names and/or photos of persons who were arrested[/u].
In future reports containing news stories of law enforcement actions, please delete the names of persons who were arrested. In addition, please do not post photos of persons who were arrested.

I want to say this carefully so no one gets the wrong idea here, but if you think about it, posting the names and/or photos of people who have been arrested is somewhat heartless and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people. Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names and/or photographs. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]

In 15 years, I have never seen an article wherein a customer has ever been arrested at an AMP. Only a fool would use a credit card or call these establishments. I have seen one or two stories where they did a reverse sting on a CL customer. Routinely I see stories of prostitution street arrests on customers. Not to say that I haven't picked something up off the street, but a lot comes down to how much you have to lose if you get caught. A $500 fine and supervision isn't shit, but if you think you might lose your family, its harder to go to the streets.

I often feel as Beisbolboy does regarding safety. I find myself going back to ER in Belvidere because I feel very safe there. I'ts also quite predictable wrt service although the quality of girls does vary.

Even at ER it's an interesting choice between the known good provider and the excitement of trying someone new.

[QUOTE=Rub & Tugged]In 15 years, I have never seen an article wherein a customer has ever been arrested at an AMP.[/QUOTE]

R&T I usually like your posts, but we know amp busts happen all the time all over the counrty. Many time they get just the owners & girls, sometimes they get the customers too. The thing is amp busts have one earie common factor; they were under survallence for months prior to the bust. So what is being done with all the intel? I'm really too hungover to argue today, so try these post links:

amp cameras:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=490691&postcount=924[/url]

amp busts:

This post claimed Major bust in Lexington yesterday. 3 girls arrested and 5 customers arrested earlier in the thread:
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=433962&postcount=131[/url]


I would dig up more, but the search function on the forum is too painfull to find more links.

[QUOTE=Ky Guy26]AMP bust. The police said that they had been eyeing the place for 3 months. concerned about the amount of people coming in and out quickly and all of the out of state tags.[/QUOTE]
Being a prospective customer, I too would be concerned of people coming in and out quickly, damn, I hate to be rushed.

Sirphukz, I also admire your posts, but we will have to agree to disagree on which venue is safer for arrest potential. I will agree with Besib that I think you are braver and more street smart than me too.

[QUOTE=Rub & Tugged]Sirphukz, I also admire your posts, but we will have to agree to disagree on which venue is safer for arrest potential. I will agree with Besib that I think you are braver and more street smart than me too.[/QUOTE]

Guys! I just want to simply point out that if you hobby you assume some measure of risk, be it from LE, STD's or even common criminal predators.

No matter which venue we choose, we all do so knowing that what we are pursuing is basically an illegal activity in at least 49 of the 50 states. As such, it poses the potential to expose any monger to all types of risks.

Is fucking in my car any safer than getting a BJ on a massage table at an AMP? Probably not, but I feel more in control of my surroundings in my car while in pursuit of the deed, its a weak peace of mind, but its all Ive got.

It's cool guys! At the end of the day we all want the same thing.

Sir P,

I appreciate all the information you provide. In your 1-16 post you mention an old Sting/bust. I'm always concerned about falling into such a trap and try to be careful by following the guidelines you and others have posted on this site.

Are you willing to provide more details on the sting? We might all learn from knowing more about what was said and done.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Rub & Tugged]In 15 years, I have never seen an article wherein a customer has ever been arrested at an AMP. Only a fool would use a credit card or call these establishments. I have seen one or two stories where they did a reverse sting on a CL customer. Routinely I see stories of prostitution street arrests on customers. Not to say that I haven't picked something up off the street, but a lot comes down to how much you have to lose if you get caught. A $500 fine and supervision isn't shit, but if you think you might lose your family, its harder to go to the streets.[/QUOTE]I've called places as LE can't prove that your intentions based on a phone call, how many wrong numbers have you made in your life? What if you called if & asked if they were licensed?

There's not enough evidence there.

As far as credit cards I agree, someone would have to be out of their mind to pay with anything but cash.

Sir P, there is definitely a great amount of risk whether it be SWs or MPs (more than there should be), don't take what I said as a form of an insult as it wasn't meant like that.

[QUOTE=ynormanb]Sir P,

I appreciate all the information you provide. In your 1-16 post you mention an old Sting/bust. I'm always concerned about falling into such a trap and try to be careful by following the guidelines you and others have posted on this site.

Are you willing to provide more details on the sting? We might all learn from knowing more about what was said and done.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Just call me stupid for having gotten nailed at the time, because now I realize there were so many red flags that I should have paid attention to:

1) there were cars just sitting there, right in front of me with the headlights out, idling in the alley, I now know these were bust cops.
2) tow trucks were around the block idling and waiting.
3) she would not get in the car
4) she wanted to negotiate from my drivers side window
5) she wouldn't stop describing sex acts for money, ie, "c'mon, I'll fuck you for $10" "No? OK how about I give you some head for $10?" "Or how about I give you a hand job for $5, you gotta have at least $5 on ya don't ya??"
6) dummy me wanted to bolt (and didn't) and foolishly answered her with a nod yes, and said "sure whatever" hoping she would step away so I could leave.

That's when she taped the top of the car and then all hell broke loose, cop cars pulled out of the shadows and appeared in front, behind and next to my car, and vice cops pulling me out of the drivers seat by my arm, it was a precise 10 second coordinated attack, man they were quick!!

I think the link below tells the rest of the story: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=368095#post368095[/url]

[QUOTE=Beisbolboy] don't take what I said as a form of an insult as it wasn't meant like that.[/QUOTE]

Don't worry, I didn't, its just healthy forum "discussion" from differing points of view.

Each mans version of security is another mans vision of his worse nightmare.

[QUOTE=Sir Phukzalot]Just call me stupid for having gotten nailed at the time, because now I realize there were so many red flags that I should have paid attention to:

1) there were cars just sitting there, right in front of me with the headlights out, idling in the alley, I now know these were bust cops.
2) tow trucks were around the block idling and waiting.
3) she would not get in the car
4) she wanted to negotiate from my drivers side window
5) she wouldn't stop describing sex acts for money, ie, "c'mon, I'll fuck you for $10" "No? OK how about I give you some head for $10?" "Or how about I give you a hand job for $5, you gotta have at least $5 on ya don't ya??"
6) dummy me wanted to bolt (and didn't) and foolishly answered her with a nod yes, and said "sure whatever" hoping she would step away so I could leave.

That's when she taped the top of the car and then all hell broke loose, cop cars pulled out of the shadows and appeared in front, behind and next to my car, and vice cops pulling me out of the drivers seat by my arm, it was a precise 10 second coordinated attack, man they were quick!!

I think the link below tells the rest of the story: [url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=368095#post368095[/url][/QUOTE]What would happen if you called 911 and said a woman is trying to get you to have sex for money?