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Can someone educate us on how to choose a lawyer? I am not a lawyer. Feel free to PM me.
The valuable advice helped me a lot so far.
J
P.S.
Since I have been asked. It's orange county and it's not prostitution. If the biatch kept her mouth shut it won't be obstruction of justice (misdomeaner) for keeping my mouth shut. The charges might be dropped!
I thought the 5th amendment [url]http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_Am5.html[/url] gives us a right against self incrimination (keeping our mouth shut)!
[QUOTE=Orlando J]Can someone educate us on how to choose a lawyer? I am not a lawyer. Feel free to PM me.
The valuable advice helped me a lot so far.
J
P.S.
Since I have been asked. It's orange county and it's not prostitution. If the biatch kept her mouth shut it won't be obstruction of justice (misdomeaner) for keeping my mouth shut. The charges might be dropped![/QUOTE]
and if you care to, copy and paste the first half here. You know what parts I would want you to publicize and what parts I would not. Trusting you here.
Nemo
I looked up on line I found this site it's not the best; lawyers.findlaw.com I would like to find a better way for comparing lawyers like number of cases he/she got not guilty and in which area. Other criteria for choosing a lawyer other than fees. The ability to drop it before trial.
After posting this initial report, I found these sites to comapre and check:
[url]http://www.martindale.com[/url]
[url]http://www.floridabar.org[/url]
Nemodc,
You can trust me bro.
Here is the public part which answers the question Can a lawyer give guarantees for an easy case?
[i][b]No Guarantees [/b]
If an attorney guarantees you an outcome, do one of two things--
1, get it in writing, so if it dont come out exactly, you can sue the bastard for malpractice.
2, better yet, run- dont walk- run out of his office.
But seriously, the best suggestion is to find one Certified as Criminal or Civil Trial Specialist, as case may be. Florida is one of very few states with that type of certification process.
Hope it all comes out well.[/i]
[QUOTE=Nemodc]and if you care to, copy and paste the first half here. You know what parts I would want you to publicize and what parts I would not. Trusting you here.
Nemo[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.aclu.org/FilesPDFs/dwb%20bust%20card7_04.pdf[/url]
Does a pretty good job of helping you keep yourself out of trouble.
Nemo
Hand it to the officer first thing, and then SHUT the Phuc Up.
I hope it uploaded. Its a business card on full page photo. I cannot resize to upload the business card size only. Perchance someone could assist.
Nemo
I have resized it. That's a great idea.
[QUOTE=Nemodc]
I hope it uploaded. Its a business card on full page photo. I cannot resize to upload the business card size only. Perchance someone could assist.
Nemo[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Nemodc]Hand it to the officer first thing, and then SHUT the Phuc Up.
I hope it uploaded. Its a business card on full page photo. I cannot resize to upload the business card size only. Perchance someone could assist.
Nemo[/QUOTE]
Have you used it, and if so, did it work?
although it used to be printed on the back of my business cards. Saved many clients alot of risk, fees and made my representation of them alot easier. Yes to what you are thinking. Not in Florida tho.
Nemo
I found this in Tampa board. I will post it as it is for now.
[QUOTE=Horny Yankee]Watch how quick this post will get flagged.
The reason it will get flagged is because the Escort agencies and girls doing the ripping off don't want you to see it.
Many of the posts by girls here are misleading. They want you to believe you are getting full service when in reality, they only offer a dance and/or mutual masturbation. When this post does get flagged, that means the scammers are actively posting at that time.
If you ask for FULL SERVICE, they will say, "Yes, I'm full service". What they don't tell you is that their idea of full service consists of you masturbating yourself to completion. After you get ripped off, you might ask the girl "I thought this was full service"? They will tell you that the legal definiton in Florida for Full Service includes mutual masturbation. That is a lie. Their is NO legal definition of "Full Service" in the Florida Revised Code.
This is how it works:
You agree to meet the girl. She will likely show up with a driver. She will ask for $100 to $200 up front. If you make the mistake of paying this, you might as well say goodbye to it. The driver will take the money to the car and usually wait. From here, the girl will tell you that the money you just paid is for the driver, agency, or a show up fee. She will now tell you that she only works on tips. You now have to negotiate a price to have the girl continue. This will range from $200 to $300. If you pay her, you are now about to learn about the term "Full Service" from her terminology. She will likely only offer to strip and conduct mutual masturbation. You WILL NOT be allowed to touch her and she WILL NOT touch you.. Once you figure this out, you might ask for a refund. It is likely she will tell you there are no refunds. Though, there is a slim chance she will refund your second payment, you are definitely not getting your first payment returned. She will likely leave and you are out anywhere from $100 to $500. If she does conduct a strip or mutual masturbation, there is no refund what so ever, guaranteed.
How to deal with this:
1. If a driver or second person shows up, you are about to get ripped off.... GUARANTEED!
Do not answer the door if they come to you. You need to watch and see if she comes with someone. If the girl that shows up is not the girl pictured, it is very likely a SCAM. If a non pictured girl shows up with a driver, you might as well write off any money you give up.
2. IF you have the confrontation with the driver and the girl, make an excuse to cancel. At this point, the driver will tell you there is a cancellation fee. It usually ranges from $100 to $150. Hopefully, you have not let them into your room. They will try to come into your room prior to conversation because when the confrontation happens, you will feel more intimidated to give up the money. Remember, your room is your safe haven until they are inside. If you are in a situation where you can't avoid the confrontation, refuse to pay the money. If you are bigger then the driver, they will likely leave. If not, immediately have your cell-phone readily available and tell them that you will call the police and the police can resolve it when they get here. Though, this is something you won't likely want to do, I can assure you, they don't want to confront the police anymore then you do. They will likely leave at this point. Trust me, you don't owe them a cent.
3. Watch out for the scenario where the girl shows up and asks for the money up front. After you pay her, she will open the door and hand the money to a driver who is now outside of your door that you didn't see the first time. If this happens, you may as well say goodbye to that money and get ready for the second round of negotiations to start all over again. Once again, you are about to get ripped off. If a girl shows up and you let her inside and asks for the money up front, open the door and see if anyone is standing outside the door. If not, the driver may be waiting in the car. Know the cars in the parking lot prior to the girl arriving. This way you can spot the driver more easily. The girl may insist on taking the first payment out to the car. If this happens, you are about to once again get ripped off. She will take it to the driver. If she does go to the car and give the money to a driver, get ready for a second round of negotiations IF she returns.
4. They will say whatever is necessary to get the initial payment from you. Once you have given up that money, they don't care anymore, they got what they wanted and can and will leave at anytime they want. Anything else they get from your wallet is just a bonus now for the girl and the driver. Once they have your initial payment, they know you aren't going to call the police. They can do as they please and they know it.
5. In some cases, the girl will agree to meet you at a hotel before anyone has a room. Sit in your car and wait. Prior to her showing, ask what kind of vehicle she is coming in. If she comes with a driver, simply drive away. If they ask what you are driving, be vague. Once again, if you are foolish enough to make contact, they will ask for the initial payment up front using the excuse that they have to pay for the room. Whatever you give them, say goodbye to it and be ready for the second round of negotiations.
6. Prior to meeting with a girl and her likely driver, you have to call the phone number they give you. Just be direct with them. Ask them if this is mutual masturbation and/or a dance ONLY. If they are a licensed agency/business, they might tell you the truth but it is unlikely. Another common response is "I can't discuss that over the phone". If they won't discuss it, you are about to get ripped off. Just to be sure, ask if there will be a driver. If they say "Yes", just hang up. You are about to get ripped-off. One common quote they love to make is "I promise you won't be disappointed". Don't be tricked. This quote means nothing and you will be disappointed.
7. A very high percentage of ads in the "Tampa Trib." and "The Other paper" are exactly what we have discussed above. ALL of the phonebook ads under "Escorts" listing agencies are as listed above. In addition, most of the girls' ads in the Trib and Other Paper are actually ads from escort agencies listed in the phone book. The agencies have several phone numbers they use that all ring to the same phone and answered by the same operators. They change numbers like you change pants every morning. They change numbers because they know guys won't call the same number that is known as a rip-off number.
8. As you may already know, there are open businesses that you are aware of in which these businesses offer mutual masturbation. At least one of these businesses are responsible for sending girls your way with a driver also. Remember, they have several phone lines also.
9. Remember, they want you to believe they are doing something illegal. It's a game of words. An example of this is an ad that says "this is not an offer of prostitution". This is reverse psychology. They think if they post this that you will believe it is prostitution. This is probably the only time in reality that they aren't lying (This only applies to CL). For other reverse psychology phrases, see rules 6 and 10.
10. If you have made the mistake of paying the driver and the secondary costs to the girl, she will continue to tell you that "The more you pay, the more you get". Though, she won't tell you how much more no matter what. She will just continue to get you to try to pay more and more. The more you pay, the more you will lose and the simple fact is, you will never get to touch her and she won't touch you no matter how much you pay.
11. If the service advertises a rate for a half hour or you are offered a 30 minute rate, it's very likely to be mutual masturbation (DIY).
12. As you read this, remember, the local escort agencies and DIY scammers are reading this also. They are changing there tactics in advertising on CL in hopes that you won't distinguish them from a legitimate provider. You have to use common sense. Think with the big head and not the little fireman. If the ad seems to good to be true, it is. Hot women do not suddenly show up in Tampa and just start advertising on CL.
13. One way to spot a scammer is to keep a running list of phone numbers of suspicious ads. Eventualy, you will find the same phone numbers listed in multiple ads for different girls. I know, I told you earlier that they change numbers like you change your pants every morning. They do change there numbers frequently, but they also use a number long enough until they feel it is no longer of any use to them. In addition, compare numbers you get on CL to phone numbers listed in the "Tampa Trib" and "The Other Paper". When you find a match, compare the ads. The comparison should raise a red flag.
14. If you do meet one of these girls and get burned. Remember, you are angry at the girls(s), driver, and the agency. The best revenge you can put on them is to take money out of there pocket by reporting which CL ads are a SCAM. Give as much detailed information as possible to include the phone number in the ad, a description of the girl(s), driver, and the vehicle he/she is driving. CL is anonymous so there is no fear of embarressment. DO NOT report legitimate providers as scams. It only defeats the purpose of our goals. If you have a personal problem with a legitimate provider, take it to "Rants and Raves".
15. You should NEVER invite these people over to your home or apartment. (Hypothetical) The girl and driver shows up. You see the red flags and cancel. If you refuse to pay the cancellation fee, they WILL intentionally make a scene in front of your residence waking up or getting the attention of your neihbors. They do this in an attempt to embarress you into paying them. This is the best case scenario. Use your imagination and you should come up with many other possible bad scenarios or crimes that could result from this. Just ask yourself, do you really want these people to know where you live?
16, WHERE THE MONEY GOES - The intial payment mostly goes to the agency. The second round of negotiations goes to the girl (Second round of negotiations usually start at about $200 to $300). The driver gets a percentage of the take from the second round of negotiations and possibly gets a small cut of the initial costs.
17. This post will not last very long. Let's do everyone a favor and work together on this one. Copy and paste this post to your hard drive. When you notice that the post has been flagged and deleted from CL, re-post it. Everyone has a right to know about this ongoing scam. If enough people know about this, the rip-off artists will stop posting here.
18. I have received requests from people asking for a recommended provider or asking if a specific post is a scam. I do not respond to these e-mails. The most common question is "I called this girl who posted and she sounded really nice over the phone". How is she supposed to sound that shows her as a scam? If you are asking this type of question, you are thinking with the little fireman. The goal of these posts is to show you how to deal with the confrontation of a suspected scam. If I provided information on legitimate providers, it would delegitimize this post as a whole and would show a personal agenda. This post shows you how to pick out legitimate posts and how to pick up the signs of a suspected scam. If you simply memorize these simple rules, it is unlikely you are going to get ripped-off. Their are guys out there who actually believe it is worth spending up to $1000 to have a female watch him jack off. This post does not apply to these guys. It applies to guys who are looking for more then jacking themselves off and avoiding girls who mislead them into believing they will get more then mutual masturbation.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=532600&postcount=190]Posted by Horney Yankee[/url]
I had the displeasure of having that situation in Orlando in 2004. Although for not as much money. Couldn't believe I paid to whack off in front of some chick, who by the way, actually tried to dance for me to some poorly tuned in station on the hotel room clock radio. I actually posted about it here when it happened. It was a low for me.
What's up with these stamp size pictures on CL? and two words' ads with just a number!
An ideal ad:
-would have an attractive title. Since listpic is not working you can give a quick description in your title. [b]Be honest. Remember to each his own[/b]
- Age (Do not lie)
- A good recent colored picture of the face unless you feel you are not gorgeous (it should show hair color though it does not matter to me) if you insist on not displaying it then you should consider free cancelations
- Body picture
- Height
- Weight
If you just started and still have no pictures be very descriptive.
Eye, skin, hair color any tattoos
- Have a menu of services offered.
Example
Available for incall ??? outcall = 1 Full hour f/s more than 1 cop + ?? greek
Available for incall ??? outcall = 1 up to an hour f/s + ?? greek
Available for incall ?? outcall = 30 f/s minutes
Available for incall ?? outcall = GFE Lollipops with or without completion
GFE Girl Friend Experience bare back
- Donation
- measurements someone might buy you something
- Bust size
These are a plus
- PSE Porn Star Experience if you have done porn let us know
- Shaved, trimmed or not (you could use [b]your[/b] recent picture). Remember this is an invitation to DATY if you do not like it then say it.
-Prefer: expressive, loud and passionate. Gets into it. Just say passionate if you are.
-Prefer: no drugs
-Some like greek.
Use the attached pictures to guide you.
Read this and better the whole thread
[url]http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=523239&postcount=53[/url]
Just to prove that each has his own my Courtesan:
-cute face to gorgeous (to each his own)
-fair skin (white to tanned)
-5'0":5'6" (some like only tall >5'7" some like only short <5')
-weight proportionate
-Reasonable rate (all agree)
-young and tight :) (some like old experienced)
-Good attitude and nice personality. (some like[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bondage_(BDSM)]BDSM[/url]. I do not get it and do not need to get it! but that's there thing)
-It could turn into NSA girl-friend. (some are not looking for a regular thing)
-Busty is preferable but not necessary. I prefer a model body (a little slim) with natural squeezable boobs.
-Clean shaved and takes care of her hygene (some like unshaved)
-Hair color is immaterial.
-Prefer: expressive, loud and passionate. Gets into it.
-Prefer: no drugs
These are some thoughts
J
I am better known in USA forum but I was thinking of getting my teeth fixed and having fun along the way in Mexico. Please share with me ideas. I heard a lot about TJ. Do you think this is the best city (closest, cheapest, ... etc.)? By the way I do not speak Spanish and this would be my first trip to Mexico. What are the sources (news papers, magazines, internet, ... etc.) of classified ads? English sources.
Thanks in advance
J
[QUOTE=Turtleshark]I had some work in San Diego and got an opportunity to visit Tijuana tonight. We went to Adelaides and that was the most fun I've ever had in a strip club.[/QUOTE]
Do you mean "Adelita Bar"?
Try going to internationalsexguide.info or ********.com, both sites offer lots of information. Before going make sure you read all the guides on those site they help alot.